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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Ugosample(m): 9:43pm On Dec 08, 2017
iRyan:
I know there's no place like home but when home isn't inhabitable you can find someplace else and call it home. Everyday thousands of people come into this country from all over the world to call this place home.
My job took me to Nigeria where I lived for two years before coming back to the US. Nigeria may not be as bad as western Media paints it to be, however it isn't a country I'd advise anybody to live in. Every part of the country is relatively messed up, morally bankrupt and irredeemably backward, with retrograded mindset set of people from a radicalized north to an extremely Christianized south. Corruption thrives in the Nigerian oxygen, every Nigerian seems to breathe it in without even knowing - thank goodness i didn't catch the bug... The system is broken beyond repair. Think about ur kids and how unfavorable the system would be to them. I have never seen a government so apathetic and nonchalant to the plight of her people. The life expectancy of the average Nigerian is very low compared to other western countries that's because people die from treatable illnesses due to a failed health care system, majority do not have access to good health care...
your savings in your 401k may allow you get a nice apartment in a middle-class area but remember that, that isn't the real Nigeria, the real Nigeria is outside your home, the society you interacts with, the deplorable roads you drive on when you go see a friend or relative that lives on the other side of town, the corrupt judicial system where the word justice is nothing but a farce, the society your kids interacts with - i could go on and on - unless you wanna live in a gated neighborhood with zero interaction with the outside world then discard this advise. If you are looking for more money investing in the country is a good idea but living in it is not. you can invest from here, you don't have to relocate.
Think it through thoroughly sleep on it over and over again to avoid taking a decision you will regret for the rest of your life.

gbam
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by 9jaDoc(f): 9:43pm On Dec 08, 2017
degreat11:
Leaving the US to start up provisions shops in Nigeria are You fucking kiddin me.

You mean with your MBA is provision shops are could come up with. We have electricity challenges, security, Education, health in which you can proffer solutions. Yet your thought process is on shops.fuxking unbelievable



He should have studied marketing not telecom grin grin
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:43pm On Dec 08, 2017
Alcatraz005:
We are talking about a failed state here: Nigeria.

Nigeria is the World's biggest sh!thole and a complete flop and some gumsmucks are telling the youths of this country to bear all that nonsense?

Pidgin2, come and spew more of your bullsh!t.


I'm beginning to suspect that you are an enemy of the country. You must be an IPOB member surely. Where is your albino master? grin
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:43pm On Dec 08, 2017
Agbaletu:

I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he thought the guy wrote 300K$ which is still not enough for a standard fuel station in a good location.

Ok then.
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by mrphysics(m): 9:43pm On Dec 08, 2017
erico2k2:

Whats the difference btw U and the OP who thinks N10m nah Mega Sum? some people in 9ja Fuel bill is N100k a month
Lol, that's the point bro. Its above 100k and it changes nothing but trust me, I earn more than 200k every month from fiverr. I strongly believe that with 9 million, he will do well if managed well because I have seen business of 2.5m move to 7m within a year.

But if you want him to be earning 10m every month, then he should start doing yahoo. You should hear him, he worked for 2 years and his saving is 9m aside from the work he did while studying.

There are business that are lower than that and live a happy and fulfilled life. The op is looking at settling down but guess worth, you have through your words made him change his mind and its even good bro.

If you need him to make 100m, then he should join MMM again

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:44pm On Dec 08, 2017
Pidgin2:


I'm beginning to suspect that you are an enemy of the country. You must be an IPOB member surely. Where is your albino master? grin

Go to politics section and ask of me. I am a warrior for my Yoruba Tribe so i dont understand what you mean by IPOB. undecided
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 9:45pm On Dec 08, 2017
Alcatraz005:


Enough Already! Dont insult the sensibilities of millions of Nigerian Youths. Dont rub it on their faces. We have heard about fiverr and those who are interested will partake from ANY PART OF THE WORLD. Or is it only in Nigeria that you can do fiverr? So your drivel wont stop those who want to migrate from migrating. The mistake you and pidgin are making is that you feel all Nigerian youths who want to migrate are doing so due to poverty. FYI, you are wrong! Some people just value living in stable and working societies. Capisce?
That guy is funny, deff one that lives with thier parents,if a man earns N100k in Nigeria per month then he is in poverty accoding to inflation index of Nigeria, some pot of soup cost up to N15k and will last three days if yu got a wife and two kids, N15k x4 is N60k, so u gt N40k left, transport school fess and other foods and house rent means you are out of pocket, unless you reduce your stabdard of living to the point that the poverty is easily seen!
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:45pm On Dec 08, 2017
mrphysics:

Lol, that's the point bro. Its above 100k and it changes nothing but trust me, I earn more than 200k every month from fiverr. I strongly believe that with 9 million, he will do well if managed well because I have seen business of 2.5m move to 7m within a year.

But if you want him to be earning 10m every month, then he should start doing yahoo. You should hear him, he worked for 2 years and his saving is 9m aside from the work he did while studying.

There are business that are lower than that and live a happy and fulfilled life. The op is looking at settling down but guess worth, you have through your words made him change his mind and its even good bro.

If you need him to make 100m, then he should join MMM again

Cant one do this fiverr abroad? Can it only be done in Nigeria? angry
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:47pm On Dec 08, 2017
erico2k2:

That guy is funny, deff one that lives with thier parents,if a man earns N100k in Nigeria per month then he is in poverty accoding to inflation index of Nigeria, some pot of soup cost up to N15k and will last three days if yu got a wife and two kids, N15k x4 is N60k, so u gt N40k left, transport school fess and other foods and house rent means you are out of pocket, unless you reduce your stabdard of living to the point that the poverty is easily seen!

Bros, i just tire jareeee. N alive and let live oo. Make we sha no fight war for naija sha. Na dat one go bad pass ooo. You are lucky you have escaped. grin
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 9:48pm On Dec 08, 2017
mrphysics:

Lol, that's the point bro. Its above 100k and it changes nothing but trust me, I earn more than 200k every month from fiverr. I strongly believe that with 9 million, he will do well if managed well because I have seen business of 2.5m move to 7m within a year.

But if you want him to be earning 10m every month, then he should start doing yahoo. You should hear him, he worked for 2 years and his saving is 9m aside from the work he did while studying.

There are business that are lower than that and live a happy and fulfilled life. The op is looking at settling down but guess worth, you have through your words made him change his mind and its even good bro.

If you need him to make 100m, then he should join MMM again
Ok you don increase am to N200k, guy sharaaaaap ,Infact take your time there.Nah so one person dey run him mouth here say He relocate back to 9ja I go his post I come find out say E return frm SENEGAL, since him quiet, U do n start your own abi? make I go you post go dig you out now? I got time and unlimited fiberoptic broadband,E go take me one minute!

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by mrphysics(m): 9:48pm On Dec 08, 2017
erico2k2:

That guy is funny, deff one that lives with thier parents,if a man earns N100k in Nigeria per month then he is in poverty accoding to inflation index of Nigeria, some pot of soup cost up to N15k and will last three days if yu got a wife and two kids, N15k x4 is N60k, so u gt N40k left, transport school fess and other foods and house rent means you are out of pocket, unless you reduce your stabdard of living to the point that the poverty is easily seen!
Stop deceiving yourself. I earn more than 300k in a month and its not a bad start. If you want a country where you can get it once, then I am not interested in it
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:49pm On Dec 08, 2017
erico2k2:

Ok you don increase am to N200k, guy sharaaaaap ,Infact take your time there.Nah so one person dey run him mouth here say He relocate back to 9ja I go his post I come find out say E return frm SENEGAL, since him quiet, U do n start your own abi? make I go you post go dig you out now? I got time and [/b]unlimited fiberoptic broadband[b],E go take me one minute!

Badt guy.... grin Abeg no intimidate we wey dey naija oooooo.
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 9:50pm On Dec 08, 2017
mrphysics:

Stop deceiving yourself. I earn more than 300k in a month and its not a bad start. If you want a country where you can get it once, then I am not interested in it
did you not post this?


So this month, I made more than $1000 on fiverr. I know so many sellers make more than this, but for those just starting, I would love to share my some helpful tips to help beginners make more sales.

https://www.nairaland.com/4199499/journey-1k-fiverr-helpful-tips
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by mrphysics(m): 9:50pm On Dec 08, 2017
erico2k2:

Ok you don increase am to N200k, guy sharaaaaap ,Infact take your time there.Nah so one person dey run him mouth here say He relocate back to 9ja I go his post I come find out say E return frm SENEGAL, since him quiet, U do n start your own abi? make I go you post go dig you out now? I got time and unlimited fiberoptic broadband,E go take me one minute!
Lol, kindly do. Seems like you like arguing bro. After everything, you are still in Nigeria and that is all that matters. With your millions, you should have relocated and made more money
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:50pm On Dec 08, 2017
mrphysics:

Stop deceiving yourself. I earn more than 300k in a month and its not a bad start. If you want a country where you can get it once, then I am not interested in it

I admire your patriotism. Keep it up bro but be receptive of the views of those who are tired of Nigeria.

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by 9jaDoc(f): 9:50pm On Dec 08, 2017
BecomeALandLord:




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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:51pm On Dec 08, 2017
mrphysics:

Lol, kindly do. Seems like you like arguing bro. After everything, you are still in Nigeria and that is all that matters. With your millions, you should have relocated and made more money

I dont think he is in Nigeria ooo. Abi erico, u still dey naija?
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by babaskool(m): 9:51pm On Dec 08, 2017
Agbaletu:


30k is just a little coins above 10MN.
Are you telling us that 10MN can build a fuel station?
It is 30k US dollar bros!

Yes 30k dollars is just about 10 million naira
And yes 30k can build a petrol station
I have statistics in documentary form to back these facts up.
Nevertheless by my statistics here is a summary of how much it costs to build a petrol station in Nigeria
1.Empty Land ( 1plot is idea but 2 plots is preferable -budget -500k -900k

2. Service station ( this is the building in the middle of every petrol station where the attendants stay or dispense other items except petrol from or where the managers office is located.. It is commonly a rectangular shaped building the size of 2 rooms. Mud blocks can be used to save cost and cheap corrugated roof can be used in it's construction since it building itself is almost useless as it doesn't in real sense bring any income for the petrol station when in operation. Budget 1.5 million to 2 million ( foundation 400k, construction to lintel 300k, roofing and plastering 1.2milion naira )

3. Underground tank - this is the actual most important part of a petrol station so it's advisable to build this first before constructing the service station ...price varies but most popular version is in form of a septic tank which almost everyone has in thier homes just that the plastering would be different to accommodate the petroleum products to be kept In them....budget 800k to 1.5 million naira

4. Fuel pumps/dispensers - for some very crazy reasons fuel pumps and dispensers cost a fortune even though it's a pump and an electronic meter to measure the quantity of liquid being dispensed is in all of them.... Fuel dispensers are expensive so budget 1 million for each unit ... The minimum you need is 2 units, on average you might need 3 fuel dispensers ....so budget 3 million

5. Shield for the fuel dispenser...this is made to provide shelter and illumination for the fuel pumps. They can be made from anything so far it does the job ...budget 200k

6.misclleanoues expenses which include the cost of applying for license to lift petroleum from Nnpc depots (if you have ur own tanker if not you can simply enter an agreement with someone that has ) and other operating costs -1 million naira

Total costs
1.empty land- 500k
2.service station- 1.5 million
3.fuel dispensers - 3 million
4.fuel shield/shelter-200k
5.operating and misclleanoues costs -1million

So total less than 6 million naira so in an effort to answer your question not only would 10 million build a petrol station in Nigeria, it can even build 2 petrol stations and make back the 10 million in less than 2 months of opening

Your sincerely
Akinola eluyefa esq

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by mrphysics(m): 9:52pm On Dec 08, 2017
erico2k2:

did you not post this?


So this month, I made more than $1000 on fiverr. I know so many sellers make more than this, but for those just starting, I would love to share my some helpful tips to help beginners make more sales.
Kindly convert it bro. Its the obvious truth and I am proud of it just like several other Nigerians who are trying very hard to bring dollar into Nigeria unlike the naira we keep pushing out
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by TheAlchemist: 9:52pm On Dec 08, 2017
chronique:
@ OP: all my life, I have never been a fan of traveling out of Nigeria to go and start a new life but with the current situation of what I'm seeing here, I might be forced to take that decision in 2019 if we make the mistake of electing another idiot into power. Nigeria is a perfect example of what a nation should never be like. There is a place of patriotism, and there is a place of reality. No doubt, there are people making it in Nigeria but then, you have to ask "at what cost "? At the cost of your sanity? You are probably used to a sane environment where practically everything works well. Coming to Nigeria, expect a total opposite of what you are currently enjoying... I'm yet to find something that one can easily get in Nigeria without having to cut corners. There are businesses that you have to do and you would have to settle a lot of insiders before it flies. Sometimes, it eats into your profit so much and you end up not really getting what you want. Look, I don't want to scare you but your $30,000 might not be able to get you through what you have planned down. You'd have to learn the ropes of how to do business in Nigeria and truthfully, be prepared for the worse. Apart from the cost of living, Nigeria is not totally a perfect place to live if you want your sanity. Like I said earlier on, the current government is a disaster and whoever we elect in 2019 would determine a lot. If we elect another idiot in 2019, I'd start packing my things and find my square root cause the country is deteriorating daily. Before you relocate back fully, think things through. There are almost no jobs and doing business here, is quite expensive and almost frustrating. Only the strong can survive. If you don't have that strong survival, rugged and determined spirit, pls stay where you are.

Only the strong can survive. ... you mean Only the Corrupt can survive.... The problem is really our leaders, i always laugh when i see someone that scammed me on a deal, preaching to youths on various platform and widely televised, on how to make it the right way... Sadly Nigerians believe all the media propaganda.

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 9:52pm On Dec 08, 2017
mrphysics:

Lol, kindly do. Seems like you like arguing bro. After everything, you are still in Nigeria and that is all that matters. With your millions, you should have relocated and made more money
No wonder ahah you my friend DULL, so from all what I have typing it has no occur to you I live in a more civilized society ?
Invest in a Laptop and research people instead of making assumptions , that your NOKIA 3210 dey fail you grin grin
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Agbaletu: 9:53pm On Dec 08, 2017
erico2k2:

Ok you don increase am to N200k, guy sharaaaaap ,Infact take your time there.Nah so one person dey run him mouth here say He relocate back to 9ja I go his post I come find out say E return frm SENEGAL, since him quiet, U do n start your own abi? make I go you post go dig you out now? I got time and unlimited fiberoptic broadband,E go take me one minute!
lol
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by InvertedHammer: 9:53pm On Dec 08, 2017
BluFlyBoy:
Greetings my fellow Nigerians. I'm facing the prospect of coming back to Nigeria after 8 years in the USA. I finished my post-graduate degree and I'm coming back with a Bsc, MBA and 2 years of work experience in the telecoms industry. I want to know from my people back home, how is the general national feeling, how they enjoy their lifestyle/quality of life and the hard-truths of what I'll be facing coming back as I've been so far removed from the national consciousness because I've been in the USA for almost a decade. I feel passion about my country and people but I need to know what too expect. So my people are you happy with life back home?

Do you own a house in the city where you want to live?
Do you have a car?
Do you have borehole and standby gen?
Do you have a business or is there a guaranteed employment waiting for you?

These 4 things are the prerequisites that you MUST have before relocating to Nigeria. They will make things a little easy.
You are thinking of relocating at the worst possible time--Buhari time. I hope you are not the breadwinner in your family.
The biggest challenge will be dealing with fellow Nigerians back home. Try living in Nigeria for 3 months, some experiences are better lived than told.

My advice: Don't do it! 1 month in Nigeria is enough to suck the life out of you.

Relocating to Nigeria should be a gradual process.
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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 9:53pm On Dec 08, 2017
mrphysics:

Kindly convert it bro. Its the obvious truth and I am proud of it just like several other Nigerians who are trying very hard to bring dollar into Nigeria unlike the naira we keep pushing out
Oga I earn £££££££, who gives a craaaap about $$$$$
Nor dey show yourself here,nah people wey never reach Airport like you nah you fit impress, not old school like us!when I leave 9ja you dey sec or pry school still!
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Myde4naija(m): 9:53pm On Dec 08, 2017
Nigerians and bad mouthing are like 5&6..............
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:54pm On Dec 08, 2017
InvertedHammer:


Do you have a house in the city where you want to live?
Do you have a car?
Do you have borehole and standby gen?
Do you have a business or is there a guaranteed employment waiting for you?

These 4 things are the prerequisites that you MUST have before relocating to Nigeria. They will make it a little easy.
You are thinking of relocating at the worst possible time--Buhari time. I hope you are not the breadwinner in your family.
The biggest challenge will be dealing with fellow Nigerians back home. Try living in Nigeria for 3 months, some experiences are better lived than told.
My advice: Don't do it!
\

Succinct and straight to the point. Kudos!
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by 9jaDoc(f): 9:54pm On Dec 08, 2017
BluFlyBoy:
I will stay in the states and I will try to re-file for permanent residence again. Hopefully I will be successful this time around.

Think well o. Don't go to re-file and end up in immigration jail, to still be deported after your jail term.
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 9:55pm On Dec 08, 2017
InvertedHammer:


Do you own a house in the city where you want to live?
Do you have a car?
Do you have borehole and standby gen?
Do you have a business or is there a guaranteed employment waiting for you?

These 4 things are the prerequisites that you MUST have before relocating to Nigeria. They will make things a little easy.
You are thinking of relocating at the worst possible time--Buhari time. I hope you are not the breadwinner in your family.
The biggest challenge will be dealing with fellow Nigerians back home. Try living in Nigeria for 3 months, some experiences are better lived than told.

My advice: Don't do it!
\
Thats a matured m ind talking,basic facts right there for anyone thinking to relocate.Rent is not an option, borrowing cars not an option either.Coming bck to look 4 work is out of the question!
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by mrphysics(m): 9:55pm On Dec 08, 2017
Alcatraz005:


I admire your patriotism. Keep it up bro but be receptive of the views of those who are tired of Nigeria.
I understand bro. I am still starting and if you go to my facebook, LinkedIn, and Whatsapp, I have those I help to get started.

But you can't make them lose hope with our posts. We must first believe in ourselves. Those staying outside should know that there is no car in US that is not in Nigeria. People are building good homes here and yes, people make it here.

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 9:55pm On Dec 08, 2017
9jaDoc:


Think well o. Don't go to re-file and end up in immigration jail, to still be deported after your jail term.

Are typing from tripoli or anywhere in Libya?
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by TheAlchemist: 9:56pm On Dec 08, 2017
babaskool:


Yes 30k dollars is just about 10 million naira
And yes 30k can build a petrol station
I have statistics in documentary form to back these facts up.
Nevertheless by my statistics here is a summary of how much it costs to build a petrol station in Nigeria
1.Empty Land ( 1plot is idea but 2 plots is preferable -budget -500k -900k

2. Service station ( this is the building in the middle of every petrol station where the attendants stay or dispense other items except petrol from or where the managers office is located.. It is commonly a rectangular shaped building the size of 2 rooms. Mud blocks can be used to save cost and cheap corrugated roof can be used in it's construction since it building itself is almost useless as it doesn't in real sense bring any income for the petrol station when in operation. Budget 1.5 million to 2 million ( foundation 400k, construction to lintel 300k, roofing and plastering 1.2milion naira )

3. Underground tank - this is the actual most important part of a petrol station so it's advisable to build this first before constructing the service station ...price varies but most popular version is in form of a septic tank which almost everyone has in thier homes just that the plastering would be different to accommodate the petroleum products to be kept In them....budget 800k to 1.5 million naira

4. Fuel pumps/dispensers - for some very crazy reasons fuel pumps and dispensers cost a fortune even though it's a pump and an electronic meter to measure the quantity of liquid being dispensed is in all of them.... Fuel dispensers are expensive so budget 1 million for each unit ... The minimum you need is 2 units, on average you might need 3 fuel dispensers ....so budget 3 million

5. Shield for the fuel dispenser...this is made to provide shelter and illumination for the fuel pumps. They can be made from anything so far it does the job ...budget 200k

6.misclleanoues expenses which include the cost of applying for license to lift petroleum from Nnpc depots (if you have ur own tanker if not you can simply enter an agreement with someone that has ) and other operating costs -1 million naira

Total costs
1.empty land- 500k
2.service station- 1.5 million
3.fuel dispensers - 3 million
4.fuel shield/shelter-200k
5.operating and misclleanoues costs -1million

So total less than 6 million naira so in an effort to answer your question not only would 10 million build a petrol station in Nigeria, it can even build 2 petrol stations and make back the 10 million in less than 2 months of opening

Your sincerely
Akinola eluyefa esq

Nicely said,,, but sadly things hardly work that way, before you know it the fuel station might be ear marked for demolition, because the lawyer did not ensure that the proper C/O of was obtained, hope you get my drift, or that the road network has to expanded, no problem the person who invested all his money in developing the petrol station, might wait forever to get government compensation... things hardly work the way it should, in this Country.

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by 9jaDoc(f): 9:58pm On Dec 08, 2017
biacan:
Please remain there oooo for now even me that is talking to you I recently got my international pass port and my elder brother got his too cause I can't travel alone we are moving to Australia and I think it will be permanent with the way things are going just waiting for some of my documents before I move out by February....... please remain there

So who will remain? In short 9ja is finished.

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