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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by twonizy(m): 10:19pm On Dec 08, 2017
madridguy:
@ OP sit down for US and stop looking for what is not. Nigeria is only good for the rogues in the govt, their family member,or associate.

Still no light, no security, health sector zero.

Boko haram, fulani terrorist, militant, kidnappers, ritualist, baddo boys, army robbers grin to mention few are making Nigeria the most dangerous place on earth.
you forgot Sars
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by InvertedHammer: 10:20pm On Dec 08, 2017
Alcatraz005:


It has been nice engaging you on this migration issue. I am done for now but as for pidgin2, her matter dey Supreme Court. I would make the travel section my new home and i would debunk her every lie, baseless innuendos and gross misrepresentations of the situation in Nigeria.

Good night.

He stated the fact though. But he forgot to mention that someone who makes $1000 as minimum wage and spends $5 on an item is way better off than someone who makes $50 (N18k/month) and spends $1 on the same item.

The OP is beginning to make me believe that "village people" is not a myth afterall. grin

//
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 10:21pm On Dec 08, 2017
chronique:


Lol. You need to see how I'm laughing seriously here.
Im dying here laughing these kids will not kill me on NL, this cold be hold me B4 but Im sweating frm laughing here, see as the guy analyze am and I never see am once in the property section .
na so one guy say E go take N10m build 4 bed duplex give cost breakdown unto say the enquirere dey abroad ahah

Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by greggng: 10:21pm On Dec 08, 2017
BluFlyBoy:
Greetings my fellow Nigerians. I'm facing the prospect of coming back to Nigeria after 8 years in the USA. I finished my post-graduate degree and I'm coming back with a Bsc, MBA and 2 years of work experience in the telecoms industry. I want to know from my people back home, how is the general national feeling, how they enjoy their lifestyle/quality of life and the hard-truths of what I'll be facing coming back as I've been so far removed from the national consciousness because I've been in the USA for almost a decade. I feel passion about my country and people but I need to know what too expect. So my people are you happy with life back home?

Anyone asking you to come back home knowingly or unknowingly is the greatest enemy that they devil is gonna use to destroy you. Thank me later I am not gonna waste my time giving you lecture on economics of our nation but for the sake of your unborn kids stay there

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by babaskool(m): 10:21pm On Dec 08, 2017
erico2k2:

Are you for real??

I'm more than for real bro, I even have I invoices, receipts, to back up the statistics I have just said above ....

I am more than real, just because the petrol station makes millions upon millions a month doesn't mean it would cost the same to get operational. Petrol stations are just like any other shop or store that sells anything that people might want to buy.. The only difference being FUEL has an inelastic demand, no mattr the price it's sold, it's a must have. As things stand in Nigeria self after every family has put food on thier table, FUEL IS Next

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by mrphysics(m): 10:21pm On Dec 08, 2017
Pidgin2:



Hahahahaha N15K soup grin grin the guy has just made laugh so hard hahahaha, he didn't name this special soup for us o, I can't wait to read the name grin

Lol. The ingredients must all be imported.

Malaysian egusi, Indian vegetable, American palm oil, etc. lol
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Agbaletu: 10:22pm On Dec 08, 2017
babaskool:


Yes 30k dollars is just about 10 million naira
And yes 30k can build a petrol station
I have statistics in documentary form to back these facts up.
Nevertheless by my statistics here is a summary of how much it costs to build a petrol station in Nigeria
1.Empty Land ( 1plot is idea but 2 plots is preferable -budget -500k -900k

2. Service station ( this is the building in the middle of every petrol station where the attendants stay or dispense other items except petrol from or where the managers office is located.. It is commonly a rectangular shaped building the size of 2 rooms. Mud blocks can be used to save cost and cheap corrugated roof can be used in it's construction since it building itself is almost useless as it doesn't in real sense bring any income for the petrol station when in operation. Budget 1.5 million to 2 million ( foundation 400k, construction to lintel 300k, roofing and plastering 1.2milion naira )

3. Underground tank - this is the actual most important part of a petrol station so it's advisable to build this first before constructing the service station ...price varies but most popular version is in form of a septic tank which almost everyone has in thier homes just that the plastering would be different to accommodate the petroleum products to be kept In them....budget 800k to 1.5 million naira

4. Fuel pumps/dispensers - for some very crazy reasons fuel pumps and dispensers cost a fortune even though it's a pump and an electronic meter to measure the quantity of liquid being dispensed is in all of them.... Fuel dispensers are expensive so budget 1 million for each unit ... The minimum you need is 2 units, on average you might need 3 fuel dispensers ....so budget 3 million

5. Shield for the fuel dispenser...this is made to provide shelter and illumination for the fuel pumps. They can be made from anything so far it does the job ...budget 200k

6.misclleanoues expenses which include the cost of applying for license to lift petroleum from Nnpc depots (if you have ur own tanker if not you can simply enter an agreement with someone that has ) and other operating costs -1 million naira

Total costs
1.empty land- 500k .....500k for a piece of land to build fuel station in Nigeria, tell us the location?
2.service station- 1.5 million ....I doubt it
3.fuel dispensers - 3 million ....Maybe
4.fuel shield/shelter-200k[b] .....I doubt it
5.operating and misclleanoues costs -1million ....Maybe
So total less than 6 million naira so in an effort to answer your question not only would 10 million build a petrol station in Nigeria, it can even build 2 petrol stations and make back the 10 million in less than 2 months of opening

Your sincerely
Akinola eluyefa esq
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 10:22pm On Dec 08, 2017
Alcatraz005:


It has been nice engaging you on this migration issue. I am done for now but as for pidgin2, her matter dey Supreme Court. I would make the travel section my new home and i would debunk her every lie, baseless innuendos and gross misrepresentations about the situation in Nigeria.

Good night.
Good go there its best place to get all ur Info
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 10:22pm On Dec 08, 2017
[quote author=Agbaletu post=63106498][/quote]
That guy need HOLY slaaaap

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by nellyelitz(m): 10:23pm On Dec 08, 2017
Hmmm it seems like ur village people have started dialing ur number...

Come back your body go tell u

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 10:24pm On Dec 08, 2017
mrphysics:

Lol. The ingredients must all be imported.

Malaysian egusi, Indian vegetable, American palm oil, etc. lol

Buahahahahaha grin grin

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 10:24pm On Dec 08, 2017
babaskool:


I'm more than for real bro, I even have I invoices, receipts, to back up the statistics I have just said above ....

I am more than real, just because the petrol station makes millions upon millions a month doesn't mean it would cost the same to get operational. Petrol stations are just like any other shop or store that sells anything that people might want to buy.. The only difference being FUEL has an inelastic demand, no mattr the price it's sold, it's a must have. As things stand in Nigeria self after every family has put food on thier table, FUEL IS Next
For starters, where do you get a piece of l and for N500k to build a petrol station, and howmuch does an excavator cost to hire for one day to dig the pit?howmuch does a licence cost to oporate.Howmuch does a fuel dispencer cost, you need atleast two, howmuch does your C of O cost?, howmuch would it cost you to re enforce the ground and cast concreat

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Agbaletu: 10:25pm On Dec 08, 2017
erico2k2:

That guy need HOLY slaaaap
I am telling you. He wants to build a fuel station with 6MN...very laughable.

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 10:25pm On Dec 08, 2017
Pidgin2:


Buahahahahaha grin grin
nah wahoo oh, so una nor fit buy N7k fish cook soup? grin grin seriously??
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Bizibi(m): 10:26pm On Dec 08, 2017
mrphysics:

You are making mistake bro. I hardly tell people that I work because I believe in the street and I have been a street hustler. I am working and my salary is good. Lol, atleast above 100k. But the point is, I am a freelancer and I have always been. I stopped blaming the government when I read on fiverr forum how the problem of the world seems to be the same and only the lazy ones keep blaming and depending on the government.

We sell caterpillar parts and we have the ones we hire for road construction, so I have been dirty monitoring projects etc and I can tell you that I have joined in making transactions outside Nigeria. Most of the caterpillar parts we sell are imported and I know what it means to trade in dollar and that of Naira.

On fiverr, people hardly sell as a Nigerian but I do and I make sales more than most Nigerian-US sellers. The other day in fiverr forum, someone came claiming that Nigerians are scammers, I spoke up and the thread was deleted.

Everyday, US citizens seek for a way to earn money on Amazon, only few Nigerians do that. The business section is one of the sections of nairaland with less visitors, you see most of them in politics and romance section.

Bro, if you believe Nigeria is a hard place, it will be for you and if you are waiting for 2019, then you will be heart broken
those who want to leave this country can go ahead,the govt is not really helping issues but there are still some deals I thought they never exist in this country,deals worth more than 15-20b tho I don't like the way the govt is handling issues because I know the number of investors that poured in the last administration, there were real deals.......deals are few now and if this govt had done the right things,man!!! I don't think we would even be in recession.
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by chronique(m): 10:26pm On Dec 08, 2017
erico2k2:

Im dying here laughing these kids will not kill me on NL, this cold be hold me B4 but Im sweating frm laughing here, see as the guy analyze am and I never see am once in the property section .
na so one guy say E go take N10m build 4 bed duplex give cost breakdown unto say the enquirere dey abroad ahah


The moment I saw "500k" for land, I knew straight up, that he was joking around. The analysis is so unrealistic.

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 10:27pm On Dec 08, 2017
Agbaletu:

I am telling you. He wants to build a fuel station with 6MN...very laughable.
mayB he thinks he is talking to a bunch of people who aint seen N6m in their life time grin grin, and look at them two, up there laughing over themselves cos i said a pot of soup cost N15k ,damn 9ja tough shaaa nor B small, I thank God 4 life, nah them want a young man to come bck wen him never arrange
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by RedGold2017: 10:28pm On Dec 08, 2017
What the WEST has to offer you? As in are you serious right now? Like they owe your great great great grandfathers and mothers anything? This is what I'm saying, sense of entitlement where you haven't earned it. I pray your immigration hustle comes through, you will be in for the shock of your life. That's why I find it hard to believe most of those Nigerians in Libya are victims, they are not, like you they failed to listen to wise counsel.

If you are open to re-orientation watch the video below.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmR2n6ryQvg

Alcatraz005:


Are you fvcking kidding me? Me, a champagne generation poster? I will let that slide. Now to my question of who are you in Nigeria. I apologise as i didnt mean it to gauge your monetary worth or standing in Nigeria. I only sought to understand where you were coming from when you adviced the youths to saty back and build the country. It is beyond cavil now that millions have lost hope and there is no going back given the attitude of our leaders. We cannot generate the adequate amount of energy to power our industries in 2017. Where do we start from/ Millions of Nigerian youths can no longer wait for these gerontocrats we have in power to deliver the goods. Its time we went out and explore what the west has to offer us for the sake of our offspring. Once again, i am sorry if my comment hit a raw nerve. I never meant to insult you. Cheers.

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by InvertedHammer: 10:28pm On Dec 08, 2017
babaskool:


I'm more than for real bro, I even have I invoices, receipts, to back up the statistics I have just said above ....

I am more than real, just because the petrol station makes millions upon millions a month doesn't mean it would cost the same to get operational. Petrol stations are just like any other shop or store that sells anything that people might want to buy.. The only difference being FUEL has an inelastic demand, no mattr the price it's sold, it's a must have. As things stand in Nigeria self after every family has put food on thier table, FUEL IS Next

One thing I know is that things rarely work out in Nigeria as outlined in an estimate. There are always surprises somewhere which you didn't include in your estimate. How many gas stations do you see abandoned along Nigerian highways? If it is that easy and profitable, they will be operational. You failed to include the cost of sourcing and transporting fuel, employees, insurance, business registration, state and municipal levies, logistics, etc in your estimates. The list could be endless. By the time the OP knows what hit him, he will be broke and depressed.
/

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 10:29pm On Dec 08, 2017
Bizibi:
those who want to leave this country can go ahead,the govt is not really helping issues but there are still some deals I thought they never exist in this country,deals worth more than 15-20b tho I don't like the way the govt is handling issues because I know the number of investors that poured in the last administration, there were real deals.......deals are few now and if this govt had done the right things,man!!! I don't think we would even be in recession.

if you do not have N100m in your bank who is going to give you a deal worth N10 billion

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by babaskool(m): 10:30pm On Dec 08, 2017
chronique:



Who is this person for God sake? Where do you want to buy land for 500k to build the filling station? Lagos, Abuja or Ijebu-Igbo? 10m naira will build a petrol station in Lagos and petrol stations are being bought for as much as 100m naira plus? Please get your facts right and don't mislead people.

I don't think you've ever considered the econometrics of the scenarios I laid down... Lagosains have this bad habit of thinking the whole trade and commerce revolves around them and if petrol stations are being sold for 100m in Lagos then they must be abt the same price everywhere else...

To answer you question come to Ibadan and see land along a main road/ express for 500k, I repeat the land is even tarred
I feel sorry for most Lagosains cost you guys pay for the location of where you live so reason y a plot of land can cost a billion naira in banana island. Open your eyes brother petrol stations that are not in Lagos are making 300k a day sales steady

Don't you not think FUEL is the same needs of people every where even in the village
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Nobody: 10:31pm On Dec 08, 2017
erico2k2:

nah wahoo oh, so una nor fit buy N7k fish cook soup? grin grin seriously??

Na carton of fish you wan use cook the pot of soup? grin grin grin na dis kain sabi sabi de make people scam una, u don show say u no de Nigeria grin grin

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by 9jaDoc(f): 10:31pm On Dec 08, 2017
oyb:


Actually, if you have funds, imagination, and the right network, you can make it big as a returnee.

Nigeria is still a wild wild west where people can hit it big.

I still maintain that this guy is just some small pikin trolling. Two years is not enough to save 30k as an entry level guy in the US. Anyone who has an MBA will not be talking about selling provisions. That's what our 'entrepreneurs' and hustler returnees are into, not MBA grads.

In the same way, most people will do 5 to 10 years in the US, then come back in a senior mgt in some blue chip, after which they start their own thing..

This is just some dreamer spitting out the fantasy as he sees it.

How about rampant corruption everywhere and
corrupt politicians
and corrupt police
and SARS
and ritualists,
and kidnappers,
and conmen,
and yahoo boys,
and brazen robbers,
and Boko Haram,
and IPOB,
and Delta Avengers,
and baby factories,
and child molesters,
and human traffickers,
and non-viable:-
power supply,
hospitals,
schools,
infrastructure,
water supply,
waste disposal,
drainage system,
building inspection,
collapsing buildings,
dillapidated housing,
drug inspection,
food inspection,
clearing and forwarding,
customs,
mental health,
handicapped empowerment,
legal system,
judiciary,
banking system,
monetary system,
Fulani herdsmen
and military
and aviation
and filthy seaports (Apapa)
grin grin grin

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 10:32pm On Dec 08, 2017
InvertedHammer:


One thing I know is that things rarely work out in Nigeria as outlined in an estimate. There are always surprises somewhere which you didn't include in your estimate. How many gas stations do you see abandoned along Nigerian highways? If it is that easy and profitable, they will be operational. You failed to include the cost of sourcing and transporting fuel, employees, insurance, business registration, state and municipal levies, logistics, etc in your estimates. The list could be endless.
/
The poster is a joke, they just thought they make a post and we wil take it at face value forgetting that some of us on here might actually own Petrol stations as well!I have cost to that, if he comes to the property section there are people building right now as we speak we day to day cost, I think I have seen you on the property section B4 if Im not mistaken
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Fingerprinter(m): 10:32pm On Dec 08, 2017
babaskool:


Dear diasporan, firstly, I would like to thank you for your passion for Nigeria, I decided to move back to nigeria a year ago too after 7 years in the Uk. So I understand your anxiety in all ramifications.
Secondly ignore all the negative comments you see on this thread, only people who have left nigeria for years and see there is hardly anything a developed country can offer, only a developing country can provide the means by which ones investment can grow without endless Taxes,bills, social security contributions, medical insurance e.t.c

You have done well for yourself by saving up to 30k to invest in Nigeria and trust me with the right planning you would not go wrong, there are people living in Lagos who have the equivalent of 30k dollars in naira and they are not in politics or ever travelled to the US so how come they have 30k dollars in thier account.

So please ignore anyone who discrouages from coming back to invest in a country that would give you a Massive yield for your investment. It's better to be a king in your country than a mouse in someone else.

So back to the information you really need, your safe bet in Nigeria right now which can generate up to 50% yield is these 3 things : 1.education 2. Real estate 3. Petrol/filling station ...your capital of 30 k dollars is more than enough to do this ...

So like I said above in less than a year your business would have paid back it's 30k investment, the only serious setbacks of doing business in Nigeria is finding the right type of people to get you started not the cost of fuel or police brutality or lack of electricity or any of the things you see on twitter or cnn...

The full scenario of Nigeria is not what you see online, there are incredible opportunities here you would never see online cos it's very hard to describe the opportunities online to anyone ...
I don't think I can say everything on here since I moved back to Nigeria but first things first you would need to incorporate a Nigerian company. I am a Nigerian lawyer so I can help you with that as fast as you can say the word a certificate of incorporation. Thereafter we would have to help you with a domicillary account so your money can be moved across continents with ease .. In addition I could also help you with a certificate of capital importation ( this certficate allows you to transfer your current at the Cbn rate )

After this then your business or company is ready for any actual real investment possible ...also if you do not mind I have 3 detailed business proposals on the 3 ideal business I listed above which is 1. Building a small scale school (education ) 2 . Real estate (buying land or a building the finished product at a high margin house flipping it's called or 3. A petrol / filling station ( petrol stations in Nigeria make up to 400,000 naira in a day ( I have statistics to back this up ) so imagine building a petrol station with 30k dollars and making up to 1k dollars in sales in a day ...


In less than a month after you start operating you would thank God for leaving the US and coming to invest in Nigeria and not missing out on the Nigerians on twitter or fb ...cos real business is not on twitter or fb...it's here in Nigeria in particular when you get the right type of people to help you ....

This post is too long so pls contact so I can send the business proposals I have for you for free firstly then after I can advice you on the company matters so you can find out if these things I say are lies or not ....
Yours sincerely
Akinola eluyefa esq

Did you just say $30k can build one a petrol station? If so, every Nigerian would own a filling station na. Don't deceive the Op in a bid to sell your services abeg. Do you even have an idea that $30k is roughly 10 million naira? That amount can't even buy you a good land that is located in strategic place ideal for building filling stations.
Guy behave!
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by 9jaDoc(f): 10:36pm On Dec 08, 2017
Tunagee:


These are the kind of people that will desperately seek greener pasture only to end up in Libya and become slaves. Bunch of unpatriotic idiots. Do u know whether the OP is well connected here? Assholes!!!!

Please advise as to how being well-connected can solve the following:

rampant corruption everywhere and
corrupt politicians
and corrupt police
and SARS
and ritualists,
and kidnappers,
and conmen,
and yahoo boys,
and brazen robbers,
and Boko Haram,
and IPOB,
and Delta Avengers,
and baby factories,
and child molesters,
and human traffickers,
and non-viable:-
power supply,
hospitals,
schools,
infrastructure,
water supply,
waste disposal,
drainage system,
building inspection,
collapsing buildings,
dillapidated housing,
drug inspection,
food inspection,
clearing and forwarding,
customs,
mental health,
handicapped empowerment,
legal system,
judiciary,
banking system,
monetary system,
Fulani herdsmen
and military
and aviation
and filthy seaports (Apapa)
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 10:36pm On Dec 08, 2017
Pidgin2:


Na carton of fish you wan use cook the pot of soup? grin grin grin na dis kain sabi sabi de make people scam una, u don show say u no de Nigeria grin grin
scam me ke, how dat wan take work,U think say I easy? ask well, MUMU nor dey abroad, any mumu nor fit last one month all man sharp 24/7.
On a serious note, I bought a giant cat fish for N7k that carton fish I nor dey eat that type, E full here,nah fesh cat fish and tilapia I dey eat or Mud fish., U know that type dem dey BBQ for point and kill. grin grin grin
my dear, life get class, if your level nah 2k fish so B it,some people level nah N10k fish na so God jst make am,hustle tight
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by Bizibi(m): 10:37pm On Dec 08, 2017
erico2k2:

if you do not have N100m in your bank who is going to give you a deal worth N10 billion
well,it is a real estate deal but unfortunately the present govt revoked it.deals like that happen during the last administration even my associate who is British in u.k has been disturbing for some deals to bring to nigeria but I told him to hold on because of this govt lack of direction,investors are willing to do biz only few are taking the risks.
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by erico2k2(m): 10:37pm On Dec 08, 2017
Fingerprinter:


Did you just say $30k can build one a petrol station? If so, every Nigerian would own a filling station na. Don't deceive the Op in a bid to sell your services abeg. Do you even have an idea that $30k is roughly 10 million naira? That amount can't even buy you a good land that is located in strategic place ideal from building filling stations.
Guy behave!
grin grin grin grin grin grin make him behave abi grin grin grin
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by InvertedHammer: 10:38pm On Dec 08, 2017
Pidgin2:


What type of pot of soup will cost N15K and last for three days after being consumed by a family of 4 grin You must be a foreigner, na your type they come back, lose all your money to conmen. Instead of you to ask questions, you want to claim to know Nigeria more than us who live here
/
Lol.
A pot of soup can cost from N200 to N15k depending on what's inside. There is no universal standard.

/
Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by babaskool(m): 10:38pm On Dec 08, 2017
InvertedHammer:


One thing I know is that things rarely work out in Nigeria as outlined in an estimate. There are always surprises somewhere which you didn't include in your estimate. How many gas stations do you see abandoned along Nigerian highways? If it is that easy and profitable, they will be operational. You failed to include the cost of sourcing and transporting fuel, employees, insurance, business registration, state and municipal levies, logistics, etc in your estimates. The list could be endless. By the time the OP knows what hit him, he will be broke and depressed.
/

I like how you said fuel stations have been abandoned on the highway who in their right mind builds a station on the highway. Highways are for fast travels, the point for travelling on them is not to stop for fuel or anything or whether for whatever reason ... It's impossible to see Petrol station within a town closed down impossible cos a petrol station feeds on the people that live around it and since people don't live on the highway it's a no brainer y stations on the highway have been abadoned ...

To the other logistics and other related expenses, the right type of people would help you with this in particular an experienced commercial lawyer, it's not a stumbling block to building the station itself ...there are just small issues by the side not that much to worry about

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Re: Moving Back To Nigeria From USA by 9jaDoc(f): 10:38pm On Dec 08, 2017
Abagworo:


Nigeria is a lovely country and you can enjoy life even in the remotest of places once you have some cash.

Ironically, this is true too!

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