smoy:
no is you that don't get it, in your bible God promises Abraham of multiple nations, Jew and Arab are inclusive.

shadeyinka:

It is the 12 sons of Ishmael that founded the Arab nation. Ishmael couldn't have been an Arab just like Ishaq couldn't have been a Jew. You are avoiding the obvious truth since Arabs were idolaters until the coming of Mohammed. Abi, what were 360 idols doing in the Kaaba and why do the Meccans profit so much from the yearly pilgrimages to the kaaba?

smoy:
do you need the genealogy of Muhammad for you to know that Ismail son was the father that father till Muhammad?
simple logic that Ismail followed religion of his father and that was the origin of monotheist in the Arabian land but as the passage of time they started to worship idol believing to connect them the the one Allah. Muhammad only came again to set the record strait for the humanity in total.

Genesis 25:12-16
"Now this is the genealogy of Ishmael, Abraham's son, whom Hagar the Egyptian, Sarah's maidservant, bore to Abraham. And these were the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: The firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth; then Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam, Mishma, Dumah, Massa, Hadar, Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah. These were the sons of Ishmael and these were their names, by their towns and their settlements, twelve princes according to their nations" ().

shadeyinka:


The end justifies the means to you isn't it.
How is Polytheism defined in Islam? Associating partners with Allah! And you say Arabs worship Allah as Allah before Mohammed!?

They worshipped Allah as one of the idols (chief idols) in the Kaaba. You can't change history!

Just an evidence for you to know that the Arabs worshipped an idol called Allah. Their Allah had three daughters al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat: true or false
BUT,
The Allah of Mohammed does not have any child does he?

Two question above for your response please!

Can you find an equivalence in Islam?
You Muslims don't know other than rewriting history!

smoy:
that is not true, they worship one Allah but use the idols to get to the one Allah and again that is not true to say that they worship al-lat and al-uzza together with Allah including their idols is a big fallacy, they know that know one sees Allah they don't even had Allah's image.

and for your foul talks; Quran cannot be author of confusion as bible gave 3 different father to Jesus, what a genealogy, what a book.

smoy:
go on with more of your research and you will come to know the truth that Isiac and Ishmael were all blessed by God and Jesus came from Isiac while Muhammed came from lineage of Ishmael and they all came with one religion to follow and worship One God only not Jesus not Muhammed is worthy to be worship.

on this city is the city of the holy massangers and it belongs to all followers of these prophet of One God and it was the followers of the other prophet that changes the religion of God of total submission called Islam, Jesus never came with a religion called christianity nor Moses came with Judaism they all came to submite to One God and that is called Islam. later or sooner islam shall take over the city in its totality.

smoy:
Muslims never hate Jews as a tribe as long as they do the will of Allah but for those that killed massangers of Allah and course corruption in the land are bonds to be hate.

shadeyinka:

יהוה may be difficult to pronounce but it is 1000% certain that it is not allah

shadeyinka:

יהוה may be difficult to pronounce but it is 1000% certain that it is not allah

shadeyinka:


The truth is always constant no matter how you try to exlain it. The Allah of the Arabs had three daughters but the Allah of Mohammed has no children can't you see that these are two different Allah's. The Allah of mahommeds father was simply upgraded to the status of the God of the Jews QED


Who are the three Fathers of Jesus if I may ask?

MightySparrow:



Muhammad didn't understand the concept of either or both Judaism and Christianity. He plagiarized the scriptures, deceived the Arab world who in turn, out if ignorance, carried his deception to the world.

All happenings in today's Israel is according to prophecy. Islam itself is prophetic not according to the stand of Muhammad and his Apostles...

Jerusalem' will be rebuilt, The Mosque will go down, There will be a military gathering against Israel with Islam as the unifying force.
Jesus will come, that time Jews eyes will be opened, Islam lies will be revealed.

Biblical prophecy a force that cannot be silenced. ..




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fellowman:
smoy you know the Koran say you need to LIE to further the course of Islam so I understand.

so when you tell all these lies, I just laugh because I know that you know that we know that you lie.

smoy:
you just repeating yourself.

for the Jesus who all know that has no father but bible gave him 2 contradictory genealogy only two names are in common of this long list (matt 1 and Luke3)
but Matthew gave him Joseph as father the same Matthew say he is child by the holy ghost and at the same time son of God, 3 farther what do you call such child in your local language ? every thing in Christianity is a guess work and confusion no certainty.

MightySparrow:


YHWH = Allah

YHWH is incomparable

MightySparrow:


YHWH = Allah ?
YHWH is not to be compared with Allah.

YWHH is the Incomparable God..

olasaad:
What is the difference between jew and christian. Are they not the same thing

shadeyinka:

Your gross ignorance is exceeded only by your ignorance concerning the subject of Jesus as revealed by your assertion.

No need for a response

smoy:
you running away?

urahara:



looooool


how is it that majority of Nigerian chridtians dont know that jews arent xtians

olasaad:


I no but its just seems confusing. Some claims Jesus is Jew why other says he's a christian. So that is what I want clarity on.

juanomowa:


I came in with no invitation...apology.

Jesus is no Jew. In fact, I can say He has no religion. Though He was birthed among them, being Hebrew, but He didn't choose their way; hypocrisy, lies, etc. And He was hated. He doesn't regard their Laws too, 'Cuz they appeared futile to Him. And because of these He sets a new doctrine/religion, as it is written, 'Upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it'.

Christian simply mean follower of Christ or Christ- like, because He is the founder of Christianity.

Jesus can't be a Christian because the religion started after He left. And He wasn't a Jew for they did not accept Him cuz His ways is not theirs. And for these cause Muslims will say Jesus is a muslim. Because He followed the faith of Abraham, which is MONOTHEISM. Believing in One God.

I'm so weak at the moment, but I have try to explain that the way I can, presently.

smoy:
quote the Qur'an verse

Alao046:
I read a post on this forum this morning about Donald triumph declaring Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. It was stated that the population of Jerusalem is about 850000 people, with 61% jews and 37% Muslims, meaning that other religion such as Christianity, Hinduism and others are under the remaining 2%. I went to the wikipedia to browse about religion in Israel and i discovered that in their 2011 census, they had 71% jews, 16.9% Muslims, 2.1% christainsin and 1.7% druze.
Why is there a very poor population of Christians in Israel, i also read that the third holiest ground in Islam is in Jerusalem(al-aqsa mosque), behind the mosque s in mecca and medinna. I want to know why all these, there ought to be a very little number of Muslims in the state, and vice-versal for the xtains, but instead their population is increasing, from 16.9% in 2011 to 37% in 2017. Jesus Christ was a christain and came from Israel, how come there are no xtains in Israel today, why are they jews and Muslims mostly. Where does Christianity hails from, if not Israel . Why do Muslims have their third holiest land in where ought to be a christain land. All these question are going through my mind now, please who are these Jews and who are these Muslims. I need answers please.

olasaad:


Too much controversy on this issue

smoy:
you just repeating yourself.

for the Jesus who all know that has no father but bible gave him 2 contradictory genealogy only two names are in common of this long list (matt 1 and Luke3)
but Matthew gave him Joseph as father the same Matthew say he is child by the holy ghost and at the same time son of God, 3 farther what do you call such child in your local language ? every thing in Christianity is a guess work and confusion no certainty.

shadeyinka:

A Jew is an Isrealite/trace his roots from Jacob. A Jew will normally practice Judaism as a religion (religion of Moses).

Jesus, Mary, David and most of the prophets known in Islam are Jews, with the exception of Abraham, Ishaq, Ismaeel and those before them.

[s]Ishaq gave birth to Yakub (Jacob) and his descendants are Jews.[/s]

Maamin:


What is all this rubbish na!

Somehow trying to force Islam in again.

Jews are descendant of the tribe of Judah, one of the 12 sons of Jacob aka Israel.

smoy:
Genesis22:14 And Avraham called the name of that place Hashem Yireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of Hashem it shall be provided. was it called jehoha jire or Hashem yireh

shadeyinka:

Let me interpret what I seem to write in Arabic tongue
Ishaq (Isaac) gave birth to Yakub (Jacob) and his (Jacobs) descendants are Jews.

I used Ishaq and Yakub so that Moslems will be able to comprehend. Shadeyinka is very much in love with Jesus as his Lord and Saviour. The southern tribe also consist of Benjamin