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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:37pm On Dec 10, 2017
somehow:
Shittu ke? Shittu was never one of our best defenders. I even prefer Omeruo at his best to Shittu's best. Nobi by muscle.

Omeruo isn't that bad (at his best), and he's gradually getting back to his best.
I disagreed totally.Pls go and watch Shittu in eagles colours even when he came in he was better than Yobo cos Yobo was on declining period.

Danny Shittu cams late as regards Eagles career.I remember how Onigbinde first called him into national team but dropped prior to 2002 WC but still wondering why cos he showed the class than Sodje even regular Enakhire.

I remember Keshi gave him a late call prior to 2014 WC but declined the invitation.Shittu might not be flamboyant one or find it difficult to make headlines but he was solid.He always have high rating than Yobo in few moments he spent with eagles,pls check him out at 2010 WC,he was Nigeria best defender.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 12:41pm On Dec 10, 2017
The same anywhere belle face Danny shittu? I can't forget our game against Ghana in Ghana. He kept parachutting all the balls that came his way. BTW, where is shittu now?

I rate defenders based on how they handle attackers or balls that come their way. Any defender that is only good at bashooking balls into the thin air, corner, throwins or to his opponent's halve isn't a good player IMO.

I have what I use in rating defenders and to me, Danny shittu at his best is not as good as Kenneth Omeruo at his best.
Kog45:
I disagreed totally.Pls go and watch Shittu in eagles colours even when he came in he was better than Yobo cos Yobo was on declining period.

Danny Shittu cams late as regards Eagles career.I remember how Onigbinde first called him into national team but dropped prior to 2002 WC but still wondering why cos he showed the class than Sodje even regular Enakhire.

I remember Keshi gave him a call prior to 2014 WC but declined the invitation.Shittu might not be flamboyant one or find it difficult to make headlines but he was solid.He always have high rating than Yobo in few moments he spent with eagles,pls check him out at 2010 WC,he was Nigeria best defender.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:41pm On Dec 10, 2017
somehow:
Shittu ke? Shittu was never one of our best defenders. I even prefer Omeruo at his best to Shittu's best. Nobi by muscle.

Omeruo isn't that bad (at his best), and he's gradually getting back to his best.
When I saw Shittu's name mentioned with Taribo I just baffle
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 12:43pm On Dec 10, 2017
Oh you're right, forgot he went to Italy too.
BascoVanVeli:


Prior to barca's using their buy back clause, Everton loaned him to AC Milan

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:43pm On Dec 10, 2017
goldfish80:

He has been totally out of his depth since the 3 lions cap.
Could be he's not as good as he thinks.

Plus Wilfred Bony has been doing the needful to keep him on the bench

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 12:52pm On Dec 10, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Plus Wilfred Bony has been doing the needful to keep him on the bench
so unfortunate...he made mockery of Nigeria...as regard laying a red carpet for him.
that statement gonna affect him in the future and many other British born Nigerians....
because right now...pinnick and his gang gonna be more careful going after this double minded English groomed players...

someone making case for ilorfa here too...I just laugh...ilorfa and his father gonna wait after the world cup...to get a call...that if..a Big if...he worth it....especially as England seeks to mortgage their careers now wit the upcoming new FIFA policy for groomed talents who choosed to play for other countries.....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:57pm On Dec 10, 2017
somehow:
The same anywhere belle face Danny shittu? I can't forget our game against Ghana in Ghana. He kept parachutting all the balls that came his way. BTW, where is shittu now?

I rate defenders based on how they handle attackers or balls that come their way. Any defender that is only good at bashooking balls into the thin air, corner, throwins or to his opponent's halve isn't a good player IMO.

I have what I use in rating defenders and to me, Danny shittu at his best is not as good as Kenneth Omeruo at his best.

Danny Shittu is a very good defender. Very determined too.

He was one of Nigeria's better players in 2010. Better than Yobo.

He was already old by 2010 so he should be retired.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:59pm On Dec 10, 2017
komekn:


He never rejected, AT ALL He needed to sort out his long term future which would be easier as a potential future England full international. When considering potential clubs.

He Explained he would commit when he turns 23. That never changed what changed is the NFF and it's lack of transparency and integrity.

When Omeruo was near anonymous at Middlesbrough Iorfa a teenager was winning MOTM and best young player awards in the same league and in the same season. Somehow there has not been any competition
for the CB position in the SE. Not sure why

I will leave it at that you can guess the rest.


Komekn sometimes you baffle me why can't you defend your own player without bringing someone else into it to downgrade. Omeruo that you mention during that period was our best defender. He did well during the nations cup and also stood out in the world cup. You make it sound as if kenneth was undeserving of his national team place which is far from the truth. I'm not saying he's a world class performer but he has paid his dues in the super eagles. Anyways since he has lost his place in the starting 11 as a result of poor form I think mentioning his name is mute. Dominic on the other hand must improve the man of the match performance you keep mentioning was 3 or 4 years ago he needs to step up his game before he can be called up to the national team

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:03pm On Dec 10, 2017
somehow:
Shittu ke? Shittu was never one of our best defenders. I even prefer Omeruo at his best to Shittu's best. Nobi by muscle.

Omeruo isn't that bad (at his best), and he's gradually getting back to his best.


Shittu was one of the best CBs we have ever had, ever!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:04pm On Dec 10, 2017
Better than yobo that was on a decline then, remember it was the period he got his nick name "calamity yobo" so using a declining yobo to rate shittu is really not a good yardstick for comparison.

During that period, we had defensive issues too so we needed any "average" to do it for us. I wouldn't rate Shittu as one of our best, not to talk of rating him among defenders like Taribo west haba.
tbaba1234:


Danny Shittu is a very good defender. Very determined too.

He was one of Nigeria's better players in 2010. Better than Yobo.

He was already old by 2010 so he should be retired.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 1:04pm On Dec 10, 2017
chrisooblog:


Komekn sometimes you baffle me why can't you defend your own player without bringing someone else into it to downgrade. Omeruo that you mention during that period was our best defender. He did well during the nations cup and also stood out in the world cup. You make it sound as if kenneth was undeserving of his national team place which is far from the truth. I'm not saying he's a world class performer but he has paid his dues in the super eagles. Anyways since he has lost his place in the starting 11 as a result of poor form I think mentioning his name is mute. Dominic on the other hand must improve the man of the match performance you keep mentioning was 3 or 4 years ago he needs to step up his game before he can be called up to the national team
his words shouldn't be new to you....
he don't mind relegate super eagles best player to the bench just to promote one over hyped borough player....
that won't even make the 3 lions 4th team squad

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:06pm On Dec 10, 2017
I respect una opinion and choice but for me, e no near my list of best defenders.

Maybe stats can be used to establish how you guys arrived at this.
Mickael2:



Shittu was one of the best CBs we have ever had, ever!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:07pm On Dec 10, 2017
somehow:
Better than yobo that was on a decline then, remember it was the period he got his nick name "calamity yobo" so using a declining yobo to rate shittu is really not a good yardstick for comparison.

During that period, we had defensive issues too so we needed any "average" to do it for us. I wouldn't rate Shittu as one of our best, not to talk of rating him among defenders like Taribo west haba.


how can you even be saying this thing, Danny Shittu? I believe Omeruo is a good player, a fantastic one, when it comes to ball-playing he might just be better than Shittu but Shittu is way way better than him in everyother aspect, well not way way better but definetly better

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:09pm On Dec 10, 2017
somehow:
Better than yobo that was on a decline then, remember it was the period he got his nick name "calamity yobo" so using a declining yobo to rate shittu is really not a good yardstick for comparison.

During that period, we had defensive issues too so we needed any "average" to do it for us. I wouldn't rate Shittu as one of our best, not to talk of rating him among defenders like Taribo west haba.

Yobo was still a starter in 2013 just before the nations cup. He only lost his place due to injury.

I will not go as far as putting him alongside West but for the short period he played for Nigeria, he was good.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:10pm On Dec 10, 2017
Kog45:
I disagreed totally.Pls go and watch Shittu in eagles colours even when he came in he was better than Yobo cos Yobo was on declining period.

Danny Shittu cams late as regards Eagles career.I remember how Onigbinde first called him into national team but dropped prior to 2002 WC but still wondering why cos he showed the class than Sodje even regular Enakhire.

I remember Keshi gave him a late call prior to 2014 WC but declined the invitation.Shittu might not be flamboyant one or find it difficult to make headlines but he was solid.He always have high rating than Yobo in few moments he spent with eagles,pls check him out at 2010 WC,he was Nigeria best defender.


Shittu yes I like him too. One of best defenders from that era. He wasn't the most gifted naturally but I loved his work ethic and never say die attitude. It's a pity that he was a late bloomer as regards the super eagles. He could have given us many years of meritorious service

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:10pm On Dec 10, 2017
somehow:
The same anywhere belle face Danny shittu? I can't forget our game against Ghana in Ghana. He kept parachutting all the balls that came his way. BTW, where is shittu now?

I rate defenders based on how they handle attackers or balls that come their way. Any defender that is only good at bashooking balls into the thin air, corner, throwins or to his opponent's halve isn't a good player IMO.

I have what I use in rating defenders and to me, Danny shittu at his best is not as good as Kenneth Omeruo at his best.
Pls check my comments on Omeruo on this thread you would be marvel cos am a strong fan of Omeruo,just two or three pages back i take on Komne for belittle Omeruo in favour of Irofa.

My man i say it the way i see it,nothing to gain,pls Danny Shittu is better than Omeruo as a defender though i will not rate him along great Nigeria defender like Taribo West but better than Omeruo that i know and i love as a fan.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:12pm On Dec 10, 2017
For Yobo and Shittu comparison, I think whoscored rate You higher than shittu
Kog45:
Pls check my comments on Omeruo on this thread you would be marvel cos am a strong fan of Omeruo,just two or three pages back i take on Komne for belittle Omeruo in favour of Irofa.

My man i say it the way i see it,nothing to gain,pls Danny Shittu is better than Omeruo as a defender though i will not rate him along great Nigeria defender like Taribo West but better than Omeruo that i know and i love as a fan.

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/8189/Show/Danny-Shittu

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/2180/Show/Joseph-Yobo

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/104432/Show/Kenneth-Omeruo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:14pm On Dec 10, 2017
I didn't say he was totally bad but to say he's better than yobo, that I disagree with, I also believe he's not as good as omeruo (if both are at their best)
tbaba1234:


Yobo was still a starter in 2013 just before the nations cup. He only lost his place due to injury.

I will not go as far as putting him alongside West but for the short period he played for Nigeria, he was good.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:17pm On Dec 10, 2017
Here is Omeruo's stat
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/104432/Show/Kenneth-Omeruo.

Kindly check what whoscored said about their strength and weaknesses.

During Shittu's era, we had a dearth of defenders so he was seen as "good" so we had no option. He was a rugby kind of defender good for only African jam body kind of play.
Mickael2:


He was a bad passer and very indiscipline too but he was rugged and very zealous.


how can you even be saying this thing, Danny Shittu? I believe Omeruo is a good player, a fantastic one, when it comes to ball-playing he might just be better than Shittu but Shittu is way way better than him in everyother aspect, well not way way better but definetly better
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:24pm On Dec 10, 2017
tbaba1234:


Yobo was still a starter in 2013 just before the nations cup. He only lost his place due to injury.

I will not go as far as putting him alongside West but for the short period he played for Nigeria, he was good.
Thank you my man.Some of us here watch eagles passionately but not always carried away with sentiments.

A lot forget the same Yobo cost us 2006 WC ticket against Angola,the best of Yobo was 2001 -2006,from 2006 -2010 it was average Yobo 2010-2014 was using his past glory to make the team nothing more,that was the reason Keshi just have to benched him for Omeruo at Afcon 2013.

Truly one of the best defender to come out of Nigeria but not in the class of Keshi,Chidi Nwanu,Uche Okechukwu, Christian Chuckwu,Taribo West.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:28pm On Dec 10, 2017
somehow:
Here is Omeruo's stat
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/104432/Show/Kenneth-Omeruo.

Kindly check what whoscored said about their strength and weaknesses.

During Shittu's era, we had a dearth of defenders so he was seen as "good" so we had no option. He was a rugby kind of defender good for only African jam body kind of play.


dude, this guy captained Millwall and Bolton(?), this guy was a fan's favourite at Blackpool and QPR, the guy is the record goalscorer(defender) for Blackpool and so many other things, Shittu was great EoD

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:29pm On Dec 10, 2017
tbaba1234:


Yobo was still a starter in 2013 just before the nations cup. He only lost his place due to injury.

I will not go as far as putting him alongside West but for the short period he played for Nigeria, he was good.
Thank you my man.Some of us here watch eagles passionately but not always carried away with sentiments.

A lot forget the same Yobo cost us 2006 WC ticket against Angola,the best of Yobo was 2001 -2006,from 2006 -2010 it was average Yobo 2010-2014 was using his past glory to make the team nothing more,that was the reason why he lost his place to home based Oboboana at Afcon 2013.

Truly one of the best defender to come out of Nigeria but not in the class of Keshi,Chidi Nwanu,Uche Okechukwu, Christian Chuckwu,Taribo West.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by FabioPeter: 1:29pm On Dec 10, 2017
King Enyeama is back with a bang. Now there is hope.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:30pm On Dec 10, 2017
Kog45:
Thank you my man.Some of us here watch eagles passionately but not always carried away with sentiments.

A lot forget the same Yobo cost us 2006 WC ticket against Angola,the best of Yobo was 2001 -2006,from 2006 -2010 it was average Yobo 2010-2014 was using his past glory to make the team nothing more,that was the reason Keshi just have to benched him for Omeruo at Afcon 2013.

Truly one of the best defender to come out of Nigeria but not in the class of Keshi,Chidi Nwanu,Uche Okechukwu, Christian Chuckwu,Taribo West.


I would never ever rate Yobo among our best defenders, Yobo exemplified a period of defensive frailities for the Eagles, he was never really outstanding(except as a fullback) and he continued playing because of sentiments

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:30pm On Dec 10, 2017
Like I said, Yobo was already declining when Shittu came into the picture, I said so in my comment. But to say he was better than Yobo at their prime is way way below the belt.
Kog45:
Thank you my man.Some of us here watch eagles passionately but not always carried away with sentiments.

A lot forget the same Yobo cost us 2006 WC ticket against Angola,the best of Yobo was 2001 -2006,from 2006 -2010 it was average Yobo 2010-2014 was using his past glory to make the team nothing more,that was the reason Keshi just have to benched him for Omeruo at Afcon 2013.

Truly one of the best defender to come out of Nigeria but not in the class of Keshi,Chidi Nwanu,Uche Okechukwu, Christian Chuckwu,Taribo West.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:31pm On Dec 10, 2017
Well yobo of 2002-2006 was never bad as you painted it. To be rated among the best of defenders for the eagles? That debatable but to say Shittu better. I reject am. (This is no sentiment), stats support me.
Mickael2:



I would never ever rate Yobo among our best defenders, Yobo exemplified a period of defensive frailities for the Eagles, he was never really outstanding(except as a fullback) and he continued playing because of sentiments
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 1:33pm On Dec 10, 2017
He was great but played with these clubs all through his career? Great? That word seems not to have a meaning on this issue. Anyways to each his own, let's concentrate on the present and future.
Mickael2:



dude, this guy captained Millwall and Bolton(?), this guy was a fan's favourite at Blackpool and QPR, the guy is the record goalscorer(defender) for Blackpool and so many other things, Shittu was great EoD

I respect everyone's view on some of our defenders.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:33pm On Dec 10, 2017
just saw the highlight of Monaco's game yesterday, all I can say is that subasic who happens to be Croatia's number doesn't inspire confidence like our own keepers too, he had two blunders that led to Troyes goals, Tho they came back to win by 3-2 but on any other day they could have lost by 2 goals to nil

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:34pm On Dec 10, 2017
somehow:
Well yobo of 2002-2006 was never bad as you painted it. To be rated among the best of defenders for the eagles? That debatable but to say Shittu better. I reject am. (This is no sentiment), stats support me.


ok let me put it this way, between 2002-early 2013 we were not defensively strong right? And who was the constant defender there? Yobo. Many coaches tried many players, Apam, Adeleye, Shittu and so many others but we were still poor defensively then Keshi removed Yobo and since then we have been strong relatively, what does that tell you?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:39pm On Dec 10, 2017
somehow:
Like I said, Yobo was already declining when Shittu came into the picture, I said so in my comment. But to say he was better than Yobo at their prime is way way below the belt.
My man you measured him when he came into the team and at what age Yobo passed his prime.Do you know how old was Shittu when he made his debut for eagles.

He made his debut with an appearance under Onigbinde and was forgotten till around 2006/07,came into the team XI and partner Yobo till he left the team.Pls how old was Yobo in 2007 - 2010 that Shittu spent with eagles.During this period Shittu was a better performance.Did you know Keshi gave him wild card to Afcon and WC but refused the invitation.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:41pm On Dec 10, 2017
somehow:
Well I don't know how inform some of these players are since the league is yet to resume, he used last season's performance as yardstick. Hopefully he's going to allow Ajiboye and Theophilus to mount the goal post too.
.
U should know that with our local coach,there will be some bias and politics in players selection... even if Theo and Ajiboye perform better than Ezenwa at the CHAN,he will still get picked ahead of d duo... im even thinking that Enyimba will make Ezenwa their first choice to brighten his chance for making the WC list... there's some benefits from FIFA for clubs whose players get selected for d WC I think grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:43pm On Dec 10, 2017
somehow:
He was great but played with these clubs all through his career? Great? That word seems not to have a meaning on this issue. Anyways to each his own, let's concentrate on the present and future.

I respect everyone's view on some of our defenders.
I know you are in trying to rate him with the clubs he played for throughout his career, truly not a good pedigree but mind you we have players like that just check Shehu Abdullahi.

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