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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:17pm On Dec 11, 2017
Kog45:
Pls let us stop this comparison cos i see it as an insult on the part of Enyeama like prone to error, No o.Enyeama was a solid keeper that made normal mistakes good keeper makes not basic errors like that of Akpeyi and Ezenwa.
When I read it I just shook my head. Did you see the error Hugo lloris made against Sweden in one of the WCQ when France was already leading and could have won until the last minute that lloris made that error and gifted Sweden with a goal. Notwithstanding Enyeama's errors, he is our best even among the likes of Rufai, Shorunmu, Peterside, Okala etc. Errors will not change that.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:22pm On Dec 11, 2017
NPFL invitational tournament...


Akwa Utd-1 vs MFM-1
Plateau utd-1 vs Enyimba-1



Both Akwa and Plateau scored via PK after going down..


I didn't watch the game,so I can't judge...but I hope this consistent last minute penalties being awarded in the league will stop soon...its embarrassing...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:25pm On Dec 11, 2017
Just read Uche Agbo saying he won't mind bench at the WC. Ebuehi said so too before. Na wa

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:26pm On Dec 11, 2017
safarigirl:
it is not based on last season. It is just fans voting

Congrats to Salah.


I don't think any Nigerian will win this award even in the next five years.... Such a waste of time.


These days, if you are not scoring goals in football, you cannot win anything
E pain me ooo. With pain in my heart I say congratulations to Salah. Maybe Onyekuru will win it one day.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:34pm On Dec 11, 2017
Mujtahida:

E pain me ooo. With pain in my heart I say congratulations to Salah. Maybe Onyekuru will win it one day.


Meh, it's called the BBC(BRITISH BROADCASTING COOPERATION) african player of the year award, of course the voting will be hijacked by sentimental English dudes. Don't forget that Moses refused to play for them, Manu fans definetly won't vote Moses, neither will City nor Arsenal and/or Tottenham fans, Salah seems the lesser evil since his Liverpool team is, well, Liverpool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 7:39pm On Dec 11, 2017
Kog45:
Pls go back and read my first comment you quoted may be you will understand better cos it should not be an offence to analyze the chances of Ezenwa,Uzoho, Ajiboye, Alampasu and included Akpeyi,these are keepers who have the opportunity of getting Rohr invitation more than two times and a good pundits would take the five into consideration when analysing the goalkeeping department.

I don't see any reason to exclude Akpeyi from my analysis and if you read deep he was the only one i gave least chances by saying "If he get another chance" so what do you expect me to say.Do you expect me to omit him when Rohr has not said Akpeyi is no longer needed.

On Ejide comparison,pls always read my comment deep,am not saying Akpeyi was better but you said something which baffled me "ESCOBAR TREATMENT" this forced me to point out Ejide howler against Scotland even went to extent of telling you of Godwin Odiye own goal in our last match against Tunisia in 1978 WC qualifier when we needed just a draw,also Aiyebeni historical missed against South Koreajust to tell you that Nigerians are not heartless when it comes to football.

Mind you i was one of the first monikers to raise our goalkeeping problem when a lot don't even see it as an issue,i remember teztrum,icon4s, Michael2, goldfish80 were so concern and i never rate Akpeyi and Ezenwa.

I saw Uzoho against Girona and i came to this thread to tell anybody who care to listen that the boy is better than Akpeyi and Ezenwa and the boy made me happy with his 45 minutes against Argentina.

Uzoho performance against Argentina raised my curiosity on Alampasu that definitely if given chance too may be he is better than Akpeyi and Ezenwa.It was on this thread i said Ajiboye i watched against Guinea is better than Ezenwa and Ajiboye


OK
Now I understand you.

I thought that you were holding brief for Akpeyi.... I see your line of argument now

Cheers cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:39pm On Dec 11, 2017
Danielnino00:



It covers the whole of 2017.. Salah was in good form at Roma too.

But like I said, if it was based on fan votes alone,then Nigerians didn't do enough.. I saw many comments on BBC Africa social media platforms where some Nigerians endorsed Salah.The Egyptians will always support their own no matter what...


Moses was playing wing back sha.. How many people appreciate wing backs?? na d goalscorers dey get d glory oo.. Even Naby Keita with his fine form last season(he is still in fine form) finished last in d award..
Many people refused to vote for him ooo. They said he didn't perform to merit the award.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 7:40pm On Dec 11, 2017
Danielnino00:
NPFL invitational tournament...


Akwa Utd-1 vs MFM-1
Plateau utd-1 vs Enyimba-1



Both Akwa and Plateau scored via PK after going down..


i didn't watch the game,so I can't judge ...but I hope this consistent last minute penalties being awarded in the league will stop soon...its embarrassing...
This alone cancels your point. If you didn't watch it how would you know if the penalties were clean one. So an infringement shouldn't be called out Because of "last minute penalties"?. Such sentiments put me off

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:44pm On Dec 11, 2017
Danielnino00:


Its either BBC didn't use fan votes alone to decide the award or most Nigerians simply weren't patriotic enough to vote for Moses.. The Egyptian are very fierce supporters of their football teams and numbers but we obviously have more football followers than them..
As a Liverpool fan, I say congrats to Salah grin .. His form this season has been hot!!


He's likely to win the CAF award too..

It is based on fans votes.. Guaranteed, several Nigerians would have voted for Salah. Do you think any Egyptians voted for Moses? Salah is highly revered in Egypt, they would have voted en masse for him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:56pm On Dec 11, 2017
tbaba1234:


It is based on fans votes.. Guaranteed, several Nigerians would have voted for Salah. Do you think any Egyptians voted for Moses? Salah is highly revered in Egypt, they would have voted en masse for him.
Nogeruans are their own biggest enemies in these things

Anytime they say public vote, I just know Nigerians will not win

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:09pm On Dec 11, 2017
Nigeria football is more of a team play than individuals accolades. ..

I don't think any Nigeria will be closed to clinching any individual award years to come.. sad

Victor Moses could have clinched the titled had it been he was given the opportunity to express himself as he does in Nigeria

But it's all well...make him carry am go cook soup...

All we need I'd just the results

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:14pm On Dec 11, 2017
krattoss:
Nigeria football is more of a team play than individuals accolades. ..

I don't think any Nigeria will be closed to clinching any individual award years to come.. sad

Victor Moses could have clinched the titled had it been he was given the opportunity to express himself as he does in Nigeria

But it's all well...make him carry am go cook soup...

All we need I'd just the results

BBC award is based on votes not performance.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:16pm On Dec 11, 2017
tbaba1234:


BBC award is based on votes not performance.
even the caf award to come...no Nigerian stands a chance ..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:20pm On Dec 11, 2017
krattoss:
even the caf award to come...no Nigerian stands a chance ..

Yes, we stood a better chance with the voting award.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:24pm On Dec 11, 2017
Kog45:
Pls go back and read my first comment you quoted may be you will understand better cos it should not be an offence to analyze the chances of Ezenwa,Uzoho, Ajiboye, Alampasu and included Akpeyi,these are keepers who have the opportunity of getting Rohr invitation more than two times and a good pundits would take the five into consideration when analysing the goalkeeping department.

I don't see any reason to exclude Akpeyi from my analysis and if you read deep he was the only one i gave least chances by saying "If he get another chance" so what do you expect me to say.Do you expect me to omit him when Rohr has not said Akpeyi is no longer needed.

On Ejide comparison,pls always read my comment deep,am not saying Akpeyi was better but you said something which baffled me "ESCOBAR TREATMENT" this forced me to point out Ejide howler against Scotland even went to extent of telling you of Godwin Odiye own goal in our last match against Tunisia in 1978 WC qualifier when we needed just a draw,also Aiyebeni historical missed against South Koreajust to tell you that Nigerians are not heartless when it comes to football.

Mind you i was one of the first monikers to raise our goalkeeping problem when a lot don't even see it as an issue,i remember teztrum,icon4s, Michael2, goldfish80 were so concern and i never rate Akpeyi and Ezenwa.

I saw Uzoho against Girona and i came to this thread to tell anybody who care to listen that the boy is better than Akpeyi and Ezenwa and the boy made me happy with his 45 minutes against Argentina.

Uzoho performance against Argentina raised my curiosity on Alampasu that definitely if given chance too may be he is better than Akpeyi and Ezenwa.It was on this thread i said Ajiboye i watched against Guinea is better than Ezenwa and Ajiboye


Godwin Odiye's own goal was during the 1982 WC qualifiers and it was against Algeria

For the last game of the 1978 WC qualifiers we were beaten clearly 3-1 by Tunisia and no own goal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:25pm On Dec 11, 2017
tbaba1234:

BBC award is based on votes not performance.
Performance induced votes.
Mohammed Salah is Africa's best. Gbam!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:34pm On Dec 11, 2017
Icon4s:


Performance induced votes.

Mohammed Salah is Africa's best. Gbam!

The year Mikel lost to Toure, Toure was not better than him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:36pm On Dec 11, 2017
tbaba1234:

The year Mikel lost to Toure, Toure was not better than him.
That is subjective.
Just like some today believe Moses did better than Salah.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:42pm On Dec 11, 2017
I will want us to patiently wait for enyeama to start playing competitive football for his club first...before we start make care for him.....
moreover rohr is ever willing to bring him into the team....it all depends on his willingness...
I see him as someone that has pride and quite stubborn though....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:44pm On Dec 11, 2017
Mujtahida:
Just read Uche Agbo saying he won't mind bench at the WC. Ebuehi said so too before. Na wa
how good is is Uche ball control skills and passing....?
I don't mind have him in place of omeruo..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Loogan(m): 9:00pm On Dec 11, 2017
My people, I think we are starting to put to much pressure on our team, we have not played up to 20 games under gernot, we are not yet there as a team, but the signs are so positive so far.
Risk taking is something Iv noticed a lot of Nigerians dread, my brothers inspire confidence in uzoho , alampasu, Ajiboye and nwokolor and they will perform wonders in the World Cup. Experience is grossly overrated with few Peeps here. Experience or just talent dosent run football anymore instead determination and team work does. why can't we just trust our young players more? Besides let's not get carried away and know we are on a rebuilding process. Placing semi final as a target is just so unrealistic, we are good but not there yet.
On enyeama
He's seems like a drama queen he needs to put the needs of his country first, he's not playing for nnf he's playing for we Nigerians who bless and pray for him for the joy he has brought us, besides what has he gone through that komenk so likes pointing out that OBI mikel has not with the federation? but it's the love and passion that matters. which I feel vincent has lost. whatever his decision I'm not worried a bit.
For a team to be successful in any competition player power cannot be tolerated. He might feel entitled to have privileges maybe coz of what he has done for Nigeria in the past, but he has to behave more like a professional and not blow up at everything the NNF did to him.
He didn't blow up when he was discarded by bielsa, so If he can treat a team coach with respect he had to show that kinda respect for the national team. forget Europe the SE made enyeama the player he is today. Don't want to judge since nothing is certain.
Sincerely I don't feel we desperately need enyeama, guys need to wake up and see that this is 21century football, young players have no respect atall, all of em are hungry and want to be the best, you think the Milan 18 year old keeper would not have started manning the post for us for about two years if he were to be Nigerian. At age 16 so why can't uzoho and co. Do it.
Our year is 2022.
I'm glad we all saw the end of the year with success. You peeps here are amazing. And this is the thread with the most matured, humble and a bit myopic people on nairaland.
Big new year of joy ahead!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:07pm On Dec 11, 2017
safarigirl:
Nigerians are their own biggest enemies in these things

Anytime they say public vote, I just know Nigerians will not win
They'd rather see banky W's video of adesua unclothedness than vote . I tire undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 9:09pm On Dec 11, 2017
Mujtahida:

I am a 100% believer in this team and I am trusting them to to go all the way. I oppose fear: fear from those who call for youth because they are afraid some of their choice players will be displaced if the old guys are invited. I oppose fear from those who believe the team will fail unless the old legs are brought back.

My perspective is simply guided by what will help the team post quality performance. I don't care about categories as such.

Finally always think about this word INVITATION. It would help you alot. To be invited doesn't mean you will make the team but many of you argue that this players should not even be invited at all.

thanks for the advise even though I feel slighted, yes thy can be invited but I have seen players who were invited, flopped and still their poor display was very well defended on this thread. Personally am not emotional concerning any particular player, if they are doing well let's be honest about it and they don't do well, let's stop making silly excuses for them, don't want to mention examples to avoid further argument.

I still stand by my earlier point that it's all mere assumptions that some players become suddenly better than the current players we have after we have qualified for the world cup. sounds ridiculous!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 9:10pm On Dec 11, 2017
forgiveness:

We never can tell anyway.
That's true.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kentebemoney: 9:13pm On Dec 11, 2017
Just finished watching the Nigeria vs Argentina game, our defensive play was like music, well structured and executed.

Noticed in the first half the Argentines full back were making the play with macherano making looping passes with them finding space behind us,to counter that when they build from behind, we had 3-2-5 shape with the front three pressing the center backs.
They move the ball to the midfield, one drops from the front three to the midfield with Kc and iwobi not dropping too deep for an outlet for counter attacks.

I like the way we play without the ball and I think aside the coach getting more <b>Needed</b> personel he can work on getting the best out of the guys he has now.

And our passing accuracy should improve.

I Believe in this team, dem dey give me hope

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 9:14pm On Dec 11, 2017
Mujtahida:
Just read Uche Agbo saying he won't mind bench at the WC. Ebuehi said so too before. Na wa

Ebuehi said that, I guess he has seen What he is Capable of doing in the team. I doubt if he would say that again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 9:14pm On Dec 11, 2017
soetanoreoluwa:


You think they care? I can tell you they have achieve their aim.. That's qualifying for WC And milk out any financial attachment to it..

Most of them took qualification to WC more important than nations cup cos they will have opportunities to travel out to countries... Sponsors will bring in more money.. FG will bring billions of Naira too.. Which they will not account for..

Then ,they Wil ask who is enyeama?

Those cabal don't care ,we have qualified already.. Whether we perform well or not they don't care maybe few people in NFF care like president n his vices... Others...

Do you know how much they stand to gain if the Team makes it to the quarters/semis this time?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:16pm On Dec 11, 2017
Icon4s:


That is subjective.

Just like some today believe Moses did better than Salah.

Is it?

You just said unequivocally that Salah is the best in Africa. Is that also subjective?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:21pm On Dec 11, 2017
Goke7:


thanks for the advise even though I feel slighted, yes thy can be invited but I have seen players who were invited, flopped and still their poor display was very well defended on this thread. Personally am not emotional concerning any particular player, if they are doing well let's be honest about it and they don't do well, let's stop making silly excuses for them, don't want to mention examples to avoid further argument.

I still stand by my earlier point that it's all mere assumptions that some players become suddenly better than the current players we have after we have qualified for the world cup. sounds ridiculous!
Sorry that you feel slighted. Not my intention at all. I get your drift about the excuses. Let performance be the prime criteria. I personally would not say any old player is better than the present crop but I think a player who is performing should be given a chance regardless of age.
Once again sorry. Respect man.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 9:22pm On Dec 11, 2017
kentebemoney:
Just finished watching the Nigeria vs Argentina game, our defensive play was like music, well structured and executed.

Noticed in the first half the Argentines full back were making the play with macherano making looping passes with them finding space behind us,to counter that when they build from behind, we had 3-2-5 shape with the front three pressing the center backs.
They move the ball to the midfield, one drops from the front three to the midfield with Kc and iwobi not dropping too deep for an outlet for counter attacks.

I like the way we play without the ball and I think aside the coach getting more <b>Needed</b> personel he can work on getting the best out of the guys he has now.

And our passing accuracy should improve.

I Believe in this team, dem dey give me hope


Bro please give me the link, I never watched that match. I really wish to watch it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:22pm On Dec 11, 2017
Nigeria players and their chances of making 23 man list for the world cup

Francis uzoho - 50%
Dele alampasu - 30%
Enyeama - 50%
Mikel obi 100%
John ogu 70%
Ndidi 100%
Balogun 100%
Akpeyi 40%
Ezenwa 50%
Martins 30%
Agu 40%
Ekong 100%
Awaziem 100%
Ebuehi 60%
Shehu 100%
Kayode 30%
Onyekuru 60%
Onazi 100%
Etebo 80%
Iwobi 100%
Iheanacho 100%
Ahmed musa 100%
Victor Moses 100%
Ighalo 95%
Ola aina 50%
Idowu 70%
Nwakali 10%
Simon Moses 100%
Osaze 5%
Uduokhai 50%
Uche agbo 50%
Elcheljile grin 70%
Anderson esiti 20%
Efe Ambrose 20%
Maduka okoye 10%
Nwakeme 50%
Ryan sanusi 1%
Abdul ajagun 1% grin
Tiago ilori 1% grin
Sone aluko 20%
Osimhen 5%
Dessers 5%
Success 30%
Raheem lawal 10%
Aiyenugba 20%
Brown ideye 5%
Ik uche 2%
Bonaventure 20%
Bazee 30%
Tammy Abraham grin If he change his mind 0.00000% grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:23pm On Dec 11, 2017
Humility017:

how good is is Uche ball control skills and passing....?
I don't mind have him in place of omeruo..
I don't know much about him ooo. But Rohr has always invited him even when Omeruo was not.

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