Gggg102:



This is what I saw from your suggestion
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_that_I_Am

What did you glean from Wiki?

Remember we were talking about the PERSONAL NAMES OF gods, but you came up asking for the meaning of YHWH. And, Wiki just explained to you exactly what i told you.

His personal name is YHWH.

The meaning is 'I AM'.

MEANING HE IS EVERYTHING, AND CAN BE ANYTHING.

smoy:

learn what? if its a compilation of books by dig and harry then stop telling us that its from God since the people God send did not contributed in the compilation of these books neither instructed any body to do that.

I am not sure you listen to yourself as you speak. Pls do not talk for the sake of talking. Stop and reason because your words represents you.

Post here any koranic verse which was a direct voice of allah or muhammed. They are a thousand voices of men and women reporting what allah or muhammed said.

But we hear YHWH and Jesus speaking directly. Which book will you say came from God?


You, a muslim claims that the Jewish Patriarchs were Musilms, and that allah gave them the Bible, but here you are calling them Tom, Dick and, Harry.

The people wrote the koran claiming it was muhammed, yet not even muslims can understand the koran without the Hadiths. But, Different men at different times wrote the Bible, yet the central message is still unified.

Prophets, priests, Shepherds, Kings Judges, and lay men wrote the Bible, yet the koran which claims to be written by one man is still running behind trying to catch up.

Boy, stop being hyperactive, it's exposing too much of your ignorance.

smoy:
that Jesus had 2 contradictory genealogy in your bible. so which one do we take?

Post them out

analize701:

What did you glean from Wiki?

Remember we were talking about the PERSONAL NAMES OF gods, but you came up asking for the meaning of YHWH. And, Wiki just explained to you exactly what i told you.

His personal name is YHWH.

The meaning is 'I AM'.

MEANING HE IS EVERYTHING, AND CAN BE ANYTHING.

why are you stating Allah isn't a personal name

analize701:

Isn't that your Hadith again? No be Jew right that o, na muslim. Mohammed pervert so tey have sex with a dead woman.

The sex demon wey possess that guy strong no be small.

Lol
Seems you just left fantasy land
continue with your evangelical humour

analize701:
I have read it. You said Jesus is not a Jew. How is He not a Jew?

Oh I get it, but not in that sense. He is of the tribe of course.

analize701:

But you made it seem like Jesus was outrightly opposed to everything YHWH did with the stock of Israel.

Remember he came to fulfill that Law?

Sure.

godisgood200:

Post them out

Mathew 1:1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, 3 and Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, and Perez the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram,[a] 4 and Ram[b] the father of Ammin′adab, and Ammin′adab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon, 5 and Salmon the father of Bo′az by Rahab, and Bo′az the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse, 6 and Jesse the father of David the king.
And David was the father of Solomon by the wife of Uri′ah, 7 and Solomon the father of Rehobo′am, and Rehobo′am the father of Abi′jah, and Abi′jah the father of Asa,[c] 8 and Asa[d] the father of Jehosh′aphat, and Jehosh′aphat the father of Joram, and Joram the father of Uzzi′ah, 9 and Uzzi′ah the father of Jotham, and Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz the father of Hezeki′ah, 10 and Hezeki′ah the father of Manas′seh, and Manas′seh the father of Amos,[e] and Amos[f] the father of Josi′ah, 11 and Josi′ah the father of Jechoni′ah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
12 And after the deportation to Babylon: Jechoni′ah was the father of She-al′ti-el,[g] and She-al′ti-el[h] the father of Zerub′babel, 13 and Zerub′babel the father of Abi′ud, and Abi′ud the father of Eli′akim, and Eli′akim the father of Azor, 14 and Azor the father of Zadok, and Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim the father of Eli′ud, 15 and Eli′ud the father of Elea′zar, and Elea′zar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob, 16 and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.


Luke 3:23 Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, 24 the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Jan′na-i, the son of Joseph, 25 the son of Mattathi′as, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Nag′ga-i, 26 the son of Ma′ath, the son of Mattathi′as, the son of Sem′e-in, the son of Josech, the son of Joda, 27 the son of Jo-an′an, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerub′babel, the son of She-al′ti-el,[c] the son of Neri, 28 the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elma′dam, the son of Er, 29 the son of Joshua, the son of Elie′zer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, 30 the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonam, the son of Eli′akim, 31 the son of Me′le-a, the son of Menna, the son of Mat′tatha, the son of Nathan, the son of David, 32 the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Bo′az, the son of Sala, the son of Nahshon, 33 the son of Ammin′adab, the son of Admin, the son of Arni, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, 34 the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, 35 the son of Serug, the son of Re′u, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, 36 the son of Ca-i′nan, the son of Arphax′ad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, 37 the son of Methu′selah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Maha′lale-el, the son of Ca-i′nan, 38 the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.

analize701:


I am not sure you listen to yourself as you speak. Pls do not talk for the sake of talking. Stop and reason because your words represents you.

Post here any koranic verse which was a direct voice of allah or muhammed. They are a thousand voices of men and women reporting what allah or muhammed said.

But we hear YHWH and Jesus speaking directly. Which book will you say came from God?


You, a muslim claims that the Jewish Patriarchs were Musilms, and that allah gave them the Bible, but here you are calling them Tom, Dick and, Harry.

The people wrote the koran claiming it was muhammed, yet not even muslims can understand the koran without the Hadiths. But, Different men at different times wrote the Bible, yet the central message is still unified.

Prophets, priests, Shepherds, Kings Judges, and lay men wrote the Bible, yet the koran which claims to be written by one man is still running behind trying to catch up.

Boy, stop being hyperactive, it's exposing too much of your ignorance.

all Qur'an was never a world of Muhammed or any body but that of Allah through his prophet Muhammad, while the Old testament suppose to be that of God or Musa and the the new testament to be that of Jesus they were all never the author of those books nether do they instructed anybody to compile it. no thousand of people as you claimed but only Muhammed received the revelation but instructed scribes to put it in to writing. differ from bible that it was donkey years after these prophet died before every body stated to write bible and revision of the bible still continue till today. wat a book from God!

we as a Muslim believed in the book Moses came with and believed in the Book Jesus came with which are not the compilation of books as you said called today bible. the question now is where are those original books of these prophet of God, as is mentioned in the bible?

juanomowa:

Oh I get it, but not in that sense. He is of the tribe of course.

Yes. By tribe he is a Jew.

mujahid777:
Lol Seems you just left fantasy land continue with your evangelical humour

Thank YHWH na your koran talk am.

Gggg102:



why are you stating Allah isn't a personal name

You're making this discussion boring.

allah means 'the god'. The question is, which god? It's like saying the president, or the teacher. Which president? There's president Buhari or Trump. They are all Presidents, and they have their personal names.

The president is not anybody's name.

What is Allah's name?

smoy:
Mathew 1:1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, 3 and Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, and Perez the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram,[a] 4 and Ram[b] the father of Ammin′adab, and Ammin′adab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon, 5 and Salmon the father of Bo′az by Rahab, and Bo′az the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse, 6 and Jesse the father of David the king.
And David was the father of Solomon by the wife of Uri′ah, 7 and Solomon the father of Rehobo′am, and Rehobo′am the father of Abi′jah, and Abi′jah the father of Asa,[c] 8 and Asa[d] the father of Jehosh′aphat, and Jehosh′aphat the father of Joram, and Joram the father of Uzzi′ah, 9 and Uzzi′ah the father of Jotham, and Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz the father of Hezeki′ah, 10 and Hezeki′ah the father of Manas′seh, and Manas′seh the father of Amos,[e] and Amos[f] the father of Josi′ah, 11 and Josi′ah the father of Jechoni′ah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
12 And after the deportation to Babylon: Jechoni′ah was the father of She-al′ti-el,[g] and She-al′ti-el[h] the father of Zerub′babel, 13 and Zerub′babel the father of Abi′ud, and Abi′ud the father of Eli′akim, and Eli′akim the father of Azor, 14 and Azor the father of Zadok, and Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim the father of Eli′ud, 15 and Eli′ud the father of Elea′zar, and Elea′zar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob, 16 and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.


Luke 3:23 Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, 24 the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Jan′na-i, the son of Joseph, 25 the son of Mattathi′as, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Nag′ga-i, 26 the son of Ma′ath, the son of Mattathi′as, the son of Sem′e-in, the son of Josech, the son of Joda, 27 the son of Jo-an′an, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerub′babel, the son of She-al′ti-el,[c] the son of Neri, 28 the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elma′dam, the son of Er, 29 the son of Joshua, the son of Elie′zer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, 30 the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonam, the son of Eli′akim, 31 the son of Me′le-a, the son of Menna, the son of Mat′tatha, the son of Nathan, the son of David, 32 the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Bo′az, the son of Sala, the son of Nahshon, 33 the son of Ammin′adab, the son of Admin, the son of Arni, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, 34 the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, 35 the son of Serug, the son of Re′u, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, 36 the son of Ca-i′nan, the son of Arphax′ad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, 37 the son of Methu′selah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Maha′lale-el, the son of Ca-i′nan, 38 the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.

What is your point?

smoy:
Mathew 1:1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, 3 and Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, and Perez the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram,[a] 4 and Ram[b] the father of Ammin′adab, and Ammin′adab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon, 5 and Salmon the father of Bo′az by Rahab, and Bo′az the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse, 6 and Jesse the father of David the king.
And David was the father of Solomon by the wife of Uri′ah, 7 and Solomon the father of Rehobo′am, and Rehobo′am the father of Abi′jah, and Abi′jah the father of Asa,[c] 8 and Asa[d] the father of Jehosh′aphat, and Jehosh′aphat the father of Joram, and Joram the father of Uzzi′ah, 9 and Uzzi′ah the father of Jotham, and Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz the father of Hezeki′ah, 10 and Hezeki′ah the father of Manas′seh, and Manas′seh the father of Amos,[e] and Amos[f] the father of Josi′ah, 11 and Josi′ah the father of Jechoni′ah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
12 And after the deportation to Babylon: Jechoni′ah was the father of She-al′ti-el,[g] and She-al′ti-el[h] the father of Zerub′babel, 13 and Zerub′babel the father of Abi′ud, and Abi′ud the father of Eli′akim, and Eli′akim the father of Azor, 14 and Azor the father of Zadok, and Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim the father of Eli′ud, 15 and Eli′ud the father of Elea′zar, and Elea′zar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob, 16 and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.


Luke 3:23 Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, 24 the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Jan′na-i, the son of Joseph, 25 the son of Mattathi′as, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Nag′ga-i, 26 the son of Ma′ath, the son of Mattathi′as, the son of Sem′e-in, the son of Josech, the son of Joda, 27 the son of Jo-an′an, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerub′babel, the son of She-al′ti-el,[c] the son of Neri, 28 the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elma′dam, the son of Er, 29 the son of Joshua, the son of Elie′zer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, 30 the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonam, the son of Eli′akim, 31 the son of Me′le-a, the son of Menna, the son of Mat′tatha, the son of Nathan, the son of David, 32 the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Bo′az, the son of Sala, the son of Nahshon, 33 the son of Ammin′adab, the son of Admin, the son of Arni, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, 34 the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, 35 the son of Serug, the son of Re′u, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, 36 the son of Ca-i′nan, the son of Arphax′ad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, 37 the son of Methu′selah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Maha′lale-el, the son of Ca-i′nan, 38 the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.

You just posted two accounts of Jesus' geneology. What makes them different?

When you are done pls post Muhammad's linking him down to Abraham to Adam.

smoy:

all Qur'an was never a world of Muhammed or any body but that of Allah through his prophet Muhammad, while the Old testament suppose to be that of God or Musa and the the new testament to be that of Jesus they were all never the author of those books nether do they instructed anybody to compile it. no thousand of people as you claimed but only Muhammed received the revelation but instructed scribes to put it in to writing. differ from bible that it was donkey years after these prophet died before every body stated to write bible and revision of the bible still continue till today. wat a book from God!

Pls try punctuating your write up.
I rest my case. Allah is not God as he wrote the Koran through muhammd, while God wrote the Old and New Testament.
Is it that mualims are programmed to not hear and understand? Jesus never wrote any book Mr Muslim. It seems you believe seeing things as they are will be a sin since the prophet/allah has said something else. Muhammed was dumb hence, he believed Jesus wrote a book. Taa.

smoy:

we as a Muslim believed in the book Moses came with and believed in the Book Jesus came with which are not the compilation of books as you said called today bible. the question now is where are those original books of these prophet of God, as is mentioned in the bible?

You Muslims believe in the book Moses came with from where?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Ask allah who claims the Bible we have now is not what he gave.

Is allah that dumb not to know what happened to the books he gave to men? Can ordinary men completely destroy his books?
We Jews and Christians have our original books, islam which came 600 yrs later says, it's not, so pls ask allah or muhammed to tell us where the original books are.

Satan has been lying to Muhammed and Muslims since the inception of Islam.

analize701:

You're making this discussion boring.

allah means 'the god'. The question is, which god? It's like saying the president, or the teacher. Which president? There's president Buhari or Trump. They are all Presidents, and they have their personal names.

The president is not anybody's name.

What is Allah's name?

Well using your logic

YHWH also means I am. Anybody can say I am

Knock knock

Who is there?

I am.

Who are you?

I am

You are who?

analize701:

You're making this discussion boring.

allah means 'the god'. The question is, which god? It's like saying the president, or the teacher. Which president? There's president Buhari or Trump. They are all Presidents, and they have their personal names.

The president is not anybody's name.

What is Allah's name?

Well using your logic

YHWH also means I am. Anybody can say I am

Knock knock

Who is there?

I am.

Who are you?

I am

You are who?

...

The question here is who are you
Just like you ask which God and Allah says the God.
I ask who are you and YHWH says I am

Gggg102:

Well using your logic
YHWH also means I am. Anybody can say I am
Knock knock
Who is there?
I am.
Who are you?
I am
You are who?
...
The question here is who are you Just like you ask which God and Allah says the God. I ask who are you and YHWH says I am

lol. I will leave you to your wisdom then. Bye.

analize701:

lol. I will leave you to your wisdom then. Bye.

Well I was only showing that your argument could go both ways...bye

THE KORAN REVEALS THAT ALLAH IS LOWER THAN HIS CREATION

Twenty-four times in the Koran Allah swears by something other than himself: the angels, the winds, a mountain, a star, the sky, the sun and so on.. It is sort of like going to court as a witness and instead of swearing on the Bible or even the Koran, you would swear to tell the truth based on the authority of say, a tree or the earth.

In the Bible, the Lord God swears by Himself, the I Am.
Because there is nothing greater than him.

analize701:

What is your point?

some one asked for it go back and cheek the chain of the trend.

godisgood200:

You just posted two accounts of Jesus' geneology. What makes them different?

When you are done pls post Muhammad's linking him down to Abraham to Adam.

when you cant even differentiate that of your Savior since you seen no contradiction of this one you are asking for another. deal with this first.

analize701:





Pls try punctuating your write up.
I rest my case. Allah is not God as he wrote the Koran through muhammd, while God wrote the Old and New Testament.
Is it that mualims are programmed to not hear and understand? Jesus never wrote any book Mr Muslim. It seems you believe seeing things as they are will be a sin since the prophet/allah has said something else. Muhammed was dumb hence, he believed Jesus wrote a book. Taa.


You Muslims believe in the book Moses came with from where?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Ask allah who claims the Bible we have now is not what he gave.

Is allah that dumb not to know what happened to the books he gave to men? Can ordinary men completely destroy his books?
We Jews and Christians have our original books, islam which came 600 yrs later says, it's not, so pls ask allah or muhammed to tell us where the original books are.

Satan has been lying to Muhammed and Muslims since the inception of Islam.

frustration result to abusive word. Alhamdullilah I have taken this one to the point. its left for him to believe or not. Allah witness this.

smoy:
frustration result to abusive word. Alhamdullilah I have taken this one to the point. its left for him to believe or not. Allah witness this.

analize701 asked you a simple question,

Is allah that dumb not to know what happened to the books he gave to men? Can ordinary men completely destroy his books?

now let me ask you mine.
When Muhammad (570-632) was alive, he claimed to receive the revelation of the Qu'ran from Allah. This means that at that time the Bible, which was in existence, could not have been corrupted because the Qu'ran states that God's word cannot be corrupted. The question I have for the Muslims is "When and where was the Bible corrupted since the Qu'ran says that the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel are from Allah and Allah's words cannot be changed?"

fellowman:


analize701 asked you a simple question,

Is allah that dumb not to know what happened to the books he gave to men? Can ordinary men completely destroy his books?

now let me ask you mine.
When Muhammad (570-632) was alive, he claimed to receive the revelation of the Qu'ran from Allah. This means that at that time the Bible, which was in existence, could not have been corrupted because the Qu'ran states that God's word cannot be corrupted. The question I have for the Muslims is "When and where was the Bible corrupted since the Qu'ran says that the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel are from Allah and Allah's words cannot be changed?"

if you are matured enough to talk of comparative in religion you will not result to foul talks. wake up and all your question shall be answered. Insahallah.

smoy, Muhammed said that the torah, the Psalms, and the gospel is the word of Allah and can never be changed.

so how come the Muslims say that the Bible is now corrupted when Muhammed said that the gospel can never be corrupted

smoy:
if you are matured enough to talk of comparative in religion you will not result to foul talks. wake up and all your question shall be answered. Insahallah.

do you want me to quote your Quran for you where Muhammed said the torah, Psalms and the gospel can never be changed since it was given by Allah?
if you need it tell me.

fellowman:
smoy, Muhammed said that the torah, the Psalms, and the gospel is the word of Allah and can never be changed.

so how come the Muslims say that the Bible is now corrupted when Muhammed said that the gospel can never be corrupted

for the book called Injil Zebur, Taorah given to prophets,there was no singular oath from God that he shall protect them from been corrupted so is opened for manipulations. while Quran was well protected because God promises it protection. but even after those books were corrupted you can still easily identify the word of God from that of Jesus from that of Moses and from that of 3rd persons in these books.

now for your direct question; God said that the word of God does not change. which means that when God says one thing he dose not say another contradictory to what he said earlier no matter the passage of time. for example God told Moses that He is One he also told all other prophet the same thing he never told any prophet that He is now 3, secondly God is of yesterday, today and future.As God promises repentance for any body who repent for years back still till today his word never changed he abide by those words.

smoy:
when you cant even differentiate that of your Savior since you seen no contradiction of this one you are asking for another. deal with this first.

Lolzzz. Pls show how they contradict themselves and stop talking poo.

smoy:
when you cant even differentiate that of your Savior since you seen no contradiction of this one you are asking for another. deal with this first.

Am glad you know that muhammed has no geneology.

smoy:
for the book called Injil Zebur, Taorah given to prophets,there was no singular oath from God that he shall protect them from been corrupted so is opened for manipulations. while Quran was well protected because God promises it protection. but even after those books were corrupted you can still easily identify the word of God from that of Jesus from that of Moses and from that of 3rd persons in these books.

now for your direct question; God said that the word of God does not change. which means that when God says one thing he dose not say another contradictory to what he said earlier no matter the passage of time. for example God told Moses that He is One he also told all other prophet the same thing he never told any prophet that He is now 3, secondly God is of yesterday, today and future.As God promises repentance for any body who repent for years back still till today his word never changed he abide by those words.

nobody is saying the Christian God is three, I have not said such. The Christian God is one stop deceiving yourselves.

or where did you see that God is three.

fellowman:


nobody is saying the Christian God is three, I have not said such. The Christian God is one stop deceiving yourselves.

or where did you see that God is three.

for their 3 that registered in the even.............and all the 3 are one.

now my questioned; is Jesus God? is God Almighty God also?