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| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by kuwa(f): 12:04pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
Daddy freeze talk o, Daddy freeze nor talk o, me, I'll still pay my tithe and offerings... It's my money... 1 Like |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by AkpaMgbor(m): 12:04pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
PaChukwudi44:I still abide by the law which says "thou shall not kill" "thou shall not covet your neighbors wife"..that is the law I know.. |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by southpaw86: 12:06pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
Well,every1 with his or her own biblical translation |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:06pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
Childofaking: Dangote did not ask people to pay him money to run his business.He worked and made his own money and is free to spend it the way he wants.Pastors live off donations from members.You cannot take donations from indigent church members and live estravagantly.In the US the health sectratary the equivalent of Nigeria's minister of health was forced to resign because he flew in first class.Not even a private jet but for flying in first class.Living off public funds always comes with a responsibility 3 Likes |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Vivere: 12:06pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
ONY3KAH:True. In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel. |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:09pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
AkpaMgbor: I wish you goodluck with the law Galatians 3:10-14 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[e] 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[f] 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[g] 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”[h] 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit 3 Likes |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by AkpaMgbor(m): 12:11pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
PaChukwudi44:You lie |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Disneylady(f): 12:12pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
HeyCorleone:The guy you quoted didn't understand his own right up at all......it is logical, there's is much difference between WILLINGNESS and COMPULSION. One can decide to give everything he has to the cause of God or humanity. About the woman they were citing in the bible, she wasn't compelled to give her all, she willingly did. So what's all the fuss about 2 Likes |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by OkCornel(m): 12:21pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
AkpaMgbor: Jesus has made this whole thing simple for a retar.d to understand. As per the new covenant; Love God with all your heart, soul and might. Love your neighbor as yourself. Which other Law you dey suffer your head on top? What shall it profit a man to tithe with zero love in his heart for God or his neighbor? 6 Likes |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by SmartyPants(m): 12:21pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
Acidosis: You must learn to look at the full picture of what the scriptures actually say. Yes Paul requested for money but the same Paul also said: 1 Thessalonians 2:9 "Don't you remember, dear brothers and sisters, how hard we worked among you? Night and day we toiled to earn a living so that we would not be a burden to any of you as we preached God's Good News to you." Takeaway: A preacher who is more focused on how to bless the people will be less focused on what he can take from them. It's interesting that modern preachers will say they only collect money from people so that those people can be blessed but Apostle Paul went out of his way not to collect money from the people. Does that mean Paul did not want them to be blessed? 2 Thessalonians 3:8 For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us, because we were not undisciplined among you, 8nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. Instead, in labor and toil, we worked night and day so that we would not be a burden to any of you. 9Not that we lack this right, but we wanted to offer ourselves as an example for you to imitate. Paul reiterates this in another letter to the Thessalonians, showing just how seriously he took this value. In this passage he adds the fact that he and the others who have done this have done so in order to set an example. So why would our modern day preachers not want to follow Paul's example? 2 Corinthians 11:9 And when I was with you and didn't have enough to live on, I did not become a financial burden to anyone. For the brothers who came from Macedonia brought me all that I needed. I have never been a burden to you, and I never will be This passage shows that at some points in Paul's life and ministry, he was poor. Let this sink in. Now think about what he says in the rest of the passage: even though he was poor he would not allow himself to become a burden to the people. Conclusion: Ministers should: 1. Tell the people the whole truth of what the bible says concerning money 2. Be moderate in their requests for money 3. Be self-sacrificing in their requests for money 5 Likes |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Ayemileto(m): 12:22pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
Ayoemrys: Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. You're in danger of hell fire bro. |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Oziegbe2Reginal(m): 12:23pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
your bible verses and explanations are correct,but 1cor 16 vs 1and 2 said collection for the saints and who are the saints members of the church not the sole call founder. Jesus is the founder of His own church name the church of Christ Roms 16:16.CHURCH HEADQUARTER John. 18:36, Eph. 5:22-25, Matt. 23:1-10, Acts. 1:10-12, Micah. 4:4:1-2, Acts. 2:1-2, 9:1-7 Dear reader, it is with faith that we believe that this godly piece of writings has meet you in good condition. We pray that God will give you a ready heart of humility to learn at the feet of God Almighty. It is with Joy to make known to you God's standards for the Headship & Headquarter of the One True Church... The Kingdom of Jesus Christ (the Church) prophesied to be established (Dan. 2:44, Joel. 2:28-32, Isaiah. 2:2-3, 44:3, Zech.1:9,16, Micah. 4:1-4, Hos. 3:5) is not of this world and as a result of this, the headship and headquarter of the Church that belongs to Jesus Christ cannot be located in this world (earth). The Head of the Church is Jesus Christ (Col. 1:18, 24) and being that Jesus Christ cannot operate in headship here on earth, the headquarter of His Church is in heaven, though He made the church to begin in Jerusalem (Micah. 4:1-2, Acts. 2:1-47) because man is the focus for the establishment of the Church, whom God desired not to perish, and have rescued from the kingdom of darkness to the Church - Col. 1:13, Eph. 2:13-18, 2 Pet. 2:9. The church started in Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost as God instructed the Apostles to wait there for the comforter whom He will send (Lk. 24:49, Acts. 1:  . Because He has chosen that it should have a starting point where the law of Christ will go forth for the salvation of mankind (Acts. 2:1-2), those who gathered got converted and became members of the Church .You need to note that in Acts. 2:2, the Holy Spirit came from heaven (which is show of the place of headship) which keystarted the establishment of the Church without which the church would not have started on that day. In Acts. 9:1-7, you would see Jesus Christ operating from Heaven (the Headquarter of the Church) and arrested Saul who was persecuting the Church. The following Bible passages reveals these facts: Acts. 23:11: Jesus Christ was guiding the Apostles from heaven, giving instructions on what needs to be done. Rev. 1: 9-11: Jesus Christ from heaven gave John the order to write a letter to the seven churches in Asia. John did this not as the head of the Church, but a servant of God who in humility respected the position of Jesus Christ as the Head. Heb. 12:22-24: Church is recognized from heaven where the head is. Rev. 20:12,15: The record of the members of the Church today is written in heaven. Since this is true from the Bible, then why will the Headquarter of churches today be on earth. The Church that belongs to Jesus Christ (Church of Christ) has NO EARTHLY HEAD & HEADQUARTER - 1 Cor. 3:11 The church started in Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost is not the headquarter of the Church, but God instructed the Apostles to wait there, because He has chosen that it should have a starting point where the law of Christ will go forth for the salvation of mankind (Acts. 2:1-2). BIBLE FACTS: * Anyone who sits as the Head of the Church today is liken to the Scribes and Pharisees who sit on Moses' seat of authority (Matt. 23:1-10) * God has a standard for the His Church and have not chosen nor authorized an earthly headquarter, that is why Jesus Christ is in heaven controlling the Church. * If the Church is to have a human head, then God would have used some of the Apostles who have had control in the early beginning of the Church. * Since man is imperfect and the church to be presented to God spotless, only Jesus Christ is qualified to be the head of the Church which He will present to God without spot and wrinkles - Eph. 5:27, Heb.7:3. * The only head of the Church approved and to be presented to God on the LAST DAY is Jesus Christ - Eph. 5:23-24. Beloved, with the little things exposed here, I want you to deeply examine the Churches of today that are running through your mind now asks as further questions as we will be happy to hear from you. Written By Omota Ewere Smarth and powered By Evangelismportal2017 |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by DBestDoc(f): 12:23pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
nikz: You are disrespecting God by saying you are paying him some sums. Desist from this, ignorance won't be an excuse. If you say you are paying your tithe to your pastor or his church, your mistake may be forgiven. Never is there a place where God or Jesus or the apostles commanded we give the almighty God our weak Naia. Respect yourself and stop dragging God into your church Doctrine. 3 Likes |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by bayobabe(f): 12:24pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
It is surprising that those quoting the scripture don't even know how to understand what they quote. Thanks for helping to interprete what that verse was saying. Blockheads everywhere. martineverest: |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by AkpaMgbor(m): 12:24pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
OkCornel:I will NOT stoop to your level of insults, trust me I am very capable of dishing it in droves... 1 Like |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by 2sexycom(m): 12:25pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
Acidosis:Oyedepo was quoted saying heaven will not open its windows for non-tithers.. that is a treat and a subtle FORCE to make people tithe... 2 Likes |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by dejavubobo1(m): 12:25pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
Acidosis:So the riches is wat ur pastors have come to acquire ? |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by martineverest(m): 12:27pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
bayobabe:tnx boss..... I have also noticed that some versions of Bible added 'yes' to that verse too make it look like Jesus agree to tithing.... This was done by the refiners and reviewers for their selfish reasons.... |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by somehow: 12:27pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
He was exposing the hypocrisy of those paying tithe then while he himself wasn't paying, nor was any of his members. the only money Jesus paid in the whole of the bible was a TAX paid to the government gotten from the mouth of a fish! Except you're a jew and from the 12 tribes of Israel, you have no reason to tithe as a christian. except your pastors are from the tribe of Levi, own no properties or earn no income from any other source except from tending to the temple (Which is no longer standing), you've no reason to give tithe to anyone! What Jesus encouraged was giving in season out of season, without compulsion, generously, privately, without coercion, giving to those who can't reward you. those beneath you, those who don't have and have no place to get from. please concentrate on Christ's teaching if truly you desire to be like Jesus. Confused 'Christians" na him full this naija. people that don't know if they are under law or grace, people that don't know if they are practicing Judaism or Christianity. lack of knowledge is striking people hard in this country! ONY3KAH: What exactly is the need for Jesus's death and resurrection if we still need to give money in the form of tithe before we can be blessed by God? when our works can pay the sacrifice? why die then? 2 Likes |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by AkpaMgbor(m): 12:28pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
bayobabe:Matthew 23:23 New International Version "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. Now tell me in simple words what Christ meant by " you should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former".., 2 Likes |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by princetom1(m): 12:30pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
Acidosis: The massive crowd is from heaven? Are they not the same Nigerians like me and u, with the same economic condition staring at us in d face? |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:32pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
Vivere: what has this got to do with tithes? |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by PaChukwudi44(m): 12:33pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
AkpaMgbor: if you had an iota of sense you should have known the statement above was made under the dispensation of the law.Even then it wasn't even important |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by AkpaMgbor(m): 12:33pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
martineverest:Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. New Living Translation "What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law--justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things. English Standard Version “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. Berean Study Bible Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You pay tithes of mint, dill, and cummin, but you have disregarded the weightier matters of the Law: justice, mercy, and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. Berean Literal Bible Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithes of mint and dill and cummin, and you have neglected the weightier things of the Law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. It behooved you to do these, and not to be leaving aside those. New American Standard Bible "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others. King James Bible Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Holman Christian Standard Bible "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! You pay a tenth of mint, dill, and cumin, yet you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy, and faith. These things should have been done without neglecting the others. International Standard Version "How terrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your mint, dill, and cummin, but have neglected the more important matters of the Law: justice, mercy, and faithfulness. These are the things you should have practiced, without neglecting the others. NET Bible "Woe to you, experts in the law and you Pharisees, hypocrites! You give a tenth of mint, dill, and cumin, yet you neglect what is more important in the law--justice, mercy, and faithfulness! You should have done these things without neglecting the others. New Heart English Bible "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites. For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the Law: justice, mercy, and faith. But you ought to have done these, and not to have left the other undone. Aramaic Bible in Plain English Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees, imposters! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin and you forsake the weighty things of the law: Justice, mercy and faith! It is necessary for you to do these things and you should not forsake them. GOD'S WORD® Translation "How horrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You give [God] one-tenth of your mint, dill, and cumin. But you have neglected justice, mercy, and faithfulness. These are the most important things in Moses' Teachings. You should have done these things without neglecting the others. New American Standard 1977 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others. Jubilee Bible 2000 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin and have omitted that which is more important of the law: judgment, mercy, and faith; these were expedient for ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. King James 2000 Bible Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, justice, mercy, and faith: these ought you to have done, and not to leave the other undone. American King James Version Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought you to have done, and not to leave the other undone. American Standard Version Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye tithe mint and anise and cummin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law, justice, and mercy, and faith: but these ye ought to have done, and not to have left the other undone. Douay-Rheims Bible Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you tithe mint, and anise, and cummin, and have left the weightier things of the law; judgment, and mercy, and faith. These things you ought to have done, and not to leave those undone. Darby Bible Translation Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye pay tithes of mint and anise and cummin, and ye have left aside the weightier matters of the law, judgment and mercy and faith: these ye ought to have done and not have left those aside. English Revised Version Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye tithe mint and anise and cummin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law, judgment, and mercy, and faith: but these ye ought to have done, and not to have left the other undone. Webster's Bible Translation Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint, and anise, and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ye ought to have done, and not to leave the others undone. Weymouth New Testament "Alas for you, Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for you pay the tithe on mint, dill, and cumin, while you have neglected the weightier requirements of the Law--just judgement, mercy, and faithful dealing. These things you ought to have done, and yet you ought not to have left the others undone. World English Bible "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and faith. But you ought to have done these, and not to have left the other undone. Young's Literal Translation Woe to you, Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye give tithe of the mint, and the dill, and the cumin, and did neglect the weightier things of the Law -- the judgment, and the kindness, and the faith; these it behoved you to do, and those not to neglect. Oya I'm waiting for your own divine translation...the one God wrote and gave personally to you alone.. 1 Like |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Achorise: 12:34pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
xest:I believe everything you said but you missed the last point, you still try small, that money was not meant for the poor, I have read it myself. Paul was never involved in sharing of things for the poor, he concentrated on the word and prayers. It was Bananas was incharge of sharing the tables. The Philippians church gave so much to Paul out of their poor state. That was where this prayer came "my God shall supply all your needs, according to his riches and glory in Christ Jesus." Brother, nobi verse ooo, cos nairaland people blood quick the verse. explain something for me pls 2cor 8:7-9..Why did the bible say make sure you excel in this grace of giving. All the same churches should involved in charity work. |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Raymondfayowole(m): 12:35pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
What i noticed from some of the above comment is that some lack the in dept study of the bible, u don't just remove a verse frm the scripture in order to backup ur claim. i created a thread here on nairaland https://www.nairaland.com/4184957/what-must-know-tithe try nd go through it cause it will definitely help those confused especially the op. tnks |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by AkpaMgbor(m): 12:36pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
PaChukwudi44:When you are caught in your own lies and deceit you resort to insults, which is very typical and expected...I'm taking the word of Christ the foundation of Christianity and not your veiled theological deceits.. |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by jimyjames(m): 12:40pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
the money given to apostle Paul wasn't ment for him to enrich himself but to be given to the poor and help him on his journey to preach the gospel not for private jet's 1 Like |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by paroh137(m): 12:41pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
I noticed that when people say rubbish, or have nothing meaningful to say on this Nairaland they'll use that nonsense grinning smiley. Like, what's funny there now? Why are you laughing? [quote author=Acidosis post=63235773][/quote] |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Lordspenzo(m): 12:43pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
 Acidosis:Oga his argument is about payment of tithe.. |
| Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by Lokoyen(m): 12:43pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
honniemail: You spoke my mind. God bless u for the write-up. |
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