cescky:



Guy shut up..you all half baked and fake Christians anooy me...you and your lot are not Christian at all

From the abundance of the heart you all speak...

Tithing was before the law....
If your really Christian you will know and understand...
So who asked Abraham to tithe?...am sure ur stammering right now?

Go figure and face Christ or face the world ...A Double minded man like you all are unstable...any where the wind blows Na there una de go

Bros...even animal sacrifice was before the Law...Jesus didn't outrightly condemn animal sacrifice...so why are we not doing animal sacrifice?

Your answer to this question should clear your confusion on tithes as well...

1. Apostle Paul's request was purely for charity to the most downtrodden. (read up your bible).

2. Jesus freed the sheeple by liberating them from those corrupt leaders who were exploiting them. (Partly why the scribes, pharisees and sadducees never liked him)

3. No human can "sow spiritual things"; The bible makes this abundantly clear. That is exclusively Jesus's work. Because of Jesus each and every one of us is equal and has direct access to God, nobody has 'special' grace over the other.
God cannot send his only begotten son on a mission and later still send mere mortals (these your 'revered' pastors) on the same mission of redemption.

richeeyo:

Bros am not a church boy but i know the Bible like the back of my hands
And the Bible does not preach exploitation.
How many Muslim clerics do you see wearing Gucci around
And most of them are super rich
They cook for the hungry
And they don't charge consultation fees like an herbalist like our pastors
The church is fraud this day's

It is Becos of people like this I admonish my christian brethren regardless of denomination to avoid this whole fight about tithing, giving e.t.c. Imagine this one who openly admits not to be a church boy is claiming to knw the bible like the back of his hand. Of course he is entitled to knw since it is written in English, and will also give it his own plain and carnal interpretation in challenging persons who understand the bible via revelation.
Brethren, for the sake of the name Jesus whom we all call upon, let's address this matter spiritually and stop fighting on social media, Becos this wil give the children of the bond woman the Avenue to mock the Jesus we all stand for.

we are in the last days when the earth shall burn. and God will put a clear demarcation between those that serve Him and those that don't serve Him.

soon all the proud shall be humbled.

we are in the last days, don't allow any agent of the devil to fool you and make you lose your security in this hard times

OP how is it the work of Freeze to advocate for setting aside of money or church offering

A carnal man can NEVER understand the things of the Spirit. so don't argue with them. leave them in their folly.

xest:

Go and sit down oga. From your post and Bible references you lack adept knowledge of Christ Jesus.
The woman in question put her offering and that was her last penny. (freewill offering)
Now christ was looking at d heart not what is left. He said from the bottom of her heart she gave all that she had....... That penny is equivalent to 2 naira now.
So christ was moved by his faith, heart and willingness to give even the little she had.

About buying a private jet for ur pastor.
I see many of u r beclouded by there brainwashing. Instead of u to tlk abt helping the poor with such money, u buy a jet for a pastor to use and fly for pleasure and tourism.
U mentioned apostle Paul saying something about collecting money, that money oga is for those who has nothing amongst the brethren, the widows, orphans and ministry upkeep.

my broda ur correct..if she is poor yt gv her lst peny jst 2 shw her luv 4 GOD wat abt dose daz worth 2bn dt also wnt to show GOD Luv

Acidosis:
1. Apostle Paul requested for money

(1 Corinthians 16:2, NIV)

Apostle Paul particularly instructed the people to set aside a sum of money that is proportionate to their income. This was a convenient way of collecting the money, that has now become a trend among Christians every Sunday. Is Paul a fat-fed and corrupt Apostle?

2. Jesus watched as the "Sheeple" widow dropped money for corrupt religious leaders but He did not free the "Sheeple"

- Mark 12:41-


At the time Jesus observed the widow's offering, the treasury was managed by corrupt religious leaders, but Jesus did not free the sheeple widow. Nowhere was it mentioned that Jesus instructed her not to give her last penny! Instead Christ was interested in blessing her seed. Ask yourself, would Jesus partake in the #freethesheeple movement if He and the Apostles were around today?

3. If your Pastor sow spiritual things to you, it is right and appropriate to give him those material things you can afford, and Yes, that includes a Jet!

- 1 Corinthians 9:9-14

Show us where and when Jesus Christ collected tithes?
very simple.
Tithes collection in Christianity is the biggest fraud in humanity.

AkpaMgbor:

Don't you see how naive you church goers sound?? So according to you and freeze, I'm free to give my entire months wage to the church willingly but I will be wrong to give ten percent of a month wage to the church? Does that even make sense to you lots??

Oga keep quiet....pls show me were Jesus or the apostles collected tithe??

xest:

Go and sit down oga. From your post and Bible references you lack adept knowledge of Christ Jesus.
The woman in question put her offering and that was her last penny. (freewill offering)
Now christ was looking at d heart not what is left. He said from the bottom of her heart she gave all that she had....... That penny is equivalent to 2 naira now.
So christ was moved by his faith, heart and willingness to give even the little she had.

About buying a private jet for ur pastor.
I see many of u r beclouded by there brainwashing. Instead of u to tlk abt helping the poor with such money, u buy a jet for a pastor to use and fly for pleasure and tourism.
U mentioned apostle Paul saying something about collecting money, that money oga is for those who has nothing amongst the brethren, the widows, orphans and ministry upkeep.

Now, suddenly, everybody is talking about helping the poor, even those who have never spent up to 20k in the past to assist the poor. It is never out of a genuine concern for the poor.
Remember when Mary broke her alabaster box and anointed the feet of Jesus with the expensive perfume. Judas Iscariot tried to rebuke her for the waste, insisting the perfume could have been sold and the proceeds given to the poor. What did Jesus tell him? He said, "the poor you will always have among you...". The truth is that poverty can never be eradicated in the society. Even in the most developed nations of the world, there are still poor people.

Can you give me a scriptural reference for the part in bold with respect to the new testament.

Can Freeze show us his philanthropic works so far, since he believes the money given to the church enriches pastors, and should otherwise be given directly to the poor. Can we see and know what Freeze has done for the poor so far. How many foundations has he set up with his money, fame and connections to help the poor he is suddenly campaigning for?

Acidosis:
1. Apostle Paul requested for money

(1 Corinthians 16:2, NIV)

Apostle Paul particularly instructed the people to set aside a sum of money that is proportionate to their income. This was a convenient way of collecting the money, that has now become a trend among Christians every Sunday. Is Paul a fat-fed and corrupt Apostle?

2. Jesus watched as the "Sheeple" widow dropped money for corrupt religious leaders but He did not free the "Sheeple"

- Mark 12:41-


At the time Jesus observed the widow's offering, the treasury was managed by corrupt religious leaders, but Jesus did not free the sheeple widow. Nowhere was it mentioned that Jesus instructed her not to give her last penny! Instead Christ was interested in blessing her seed. Ask yourself, would Jesus partake in the #freethesheeple movement if He and the Apostles were around today?

3. If your Pastor sow spiritual things to you, it is right and appropriate to give him those material things you can afford, and Yes, that includes a Jet!

- 1 Corinthians 9:9-14

Pastor, This is another level of Crass Stupidity n self brainwash.

Giving to God servants is a very good thing. But don't give to promote oppression, sinfulness, idol worshiping and ritualist all in the name of God. Some pastors are seriously after the tithe to pursue certain worldly things, thereby forgetting their prime callings.
In Nigeria today, anybody can wake up tomorrow and become a pastor without any spiritual callings because of the unemployment rate, deceiving people, and even go to any extent to pull crowd including rituals and cultism. We should be careful and make sure we are serving the living God Almighty. If you pay your tithe you will be sure you are promoting the work of God in His glory. Obviously if you are not gullible, you will know the true man of God not by the big structures or the amount of shoes or luxury cars or expensive suit. But by the grace of god ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. Pay your tithe to promote to the kingdom of God not for earthly possession.

How is God going to demarcate those who serve Him and not?

Infocitadel:
we are in the last days when the earth shall burn. and God will put a clear demarcation between those that serve Him and those that don't serve Him.

soon all the proud shall be humbled.

we are in the last days, don't allow any agent of the devil to fool you and make you lose your security in this hard times

This is for our tithe paying Pastorpreneur defending warriors

Deutronomy 14 v 22-29

Tithes
22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year.

23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always.

24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away),

25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose.

26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.

27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.

28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns,

29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.





Dear "Tithers" I have copied and pasted the scriptures in NIV version. My questions are;

1) How did Tithe convert itself from foodstuffs as prescribed by God and now perverted into 10% of gold and silver as preached
by Pastorpreneurs?

2) Isn't tithe meant to be eaten and given at my discretion to "Levites" without inheritance, widows, stranded foreigners and Orphans?

3) Is it scriptural to pay monetary "tithes" to Men of God with vast inheritances here on earth?

4) If I am not into farming or herding...do I need to even tithe?

Tithing is a good thing but the way most pastors go about it these days is annoying

I thought a pastor said daddy Freeze will die within seven days if he doesn't shut his mouth? but him still no shut up

ojoagba:
truth be told, demons would always like to attack the church. even Jesus was attacked. all the disciples were attacked and most killed. boko haram is attacking the church. freeze's attack shouldnt be a breaking news. in the midst of this baseless attack, deeper just commissioned a 45k seater capacity church. in Nov, 2017, God used a single man to build a one billion naira church structure for winners at vgc, lagos and was commissioned by papa oyedepo. dunamis is opening a 75k seating capacity church by early next year in abuja. when pastors and the church was poor, they were happy and mocking (shes as poor as a church rat) now, they are pained and frustrated. dem never see anything.

Na was o...how do u tink set.....so building structures is now waht Christianity is about.... Have u asked urself y with all these, structures, crime is increasing, fraud is going up, kidnapping everywhere, armed robbery, ritual killing...pple r doing all these for money, that's because the standard of living is poor, pple must survive so they do everything to find their daily bread.

My brother u r so ignorant,u can't see farther than ur nose, how does the structure put food on the table of pple, d govt has failed, d church which is supposed to be a support for these pple r milking the same pple and telling dem God will provide, I'm collecting from u because I want u to go out of poverty, so these Christians result to crime

tosyne2much:
Tithing is a good thing but the way most pastors go about it these days is annoying

I thought a pastor said daddy Freeze will die within seven days if he doesn't shut his mouth? but him still no shut up

Yup @ the way they use the money, i'm a minister, yet i totally agree

saintmark88:


Oga keep quiet....pls show me were Jesus or the apostles collected tithe??

Show me where Jesus condemned tithe...naive sheeples.

KreativGenius:



Yup @ the way they use the money, i'm a minister, yet i totally agree

I will soon write my own article

streamsofjoy:



It is Becos of people like this I admonish my christian brethren regardless of denomination to avoid this whole fight about tithing, giving e.t.c. Imagine this one who openly admits not to be a church boy is claiming to knw the bible like the back of his hand. Of course he is entitled to knw since it is written in English, and will also give it his own plain and carnal interpretation in challenging persons who understand the bible via revelation.
Brethren, for the sake of the name Jesus whom we all call upon, let's address this matter spiritually and stop fighting on social media, Becos this wil give the children of the bond woman the Avenue to mock the Jesus we all stand for.

pls my dear sister , "you are the light of the world, let your light so shine that people may may see and and glorify your Heavenly father......"
The truth remains, the tithes scammers have reduced our Heavenly Father to a trader. and thereby driving people into atheism and Islam.

what type of God will sell anything and everything to anybody.
If you like kill, rob,do rituals, sell human parts, peddle your body and engage in any type of wickedness, as long as you you give God his share through tithe he will bless you.
what type of God is that?
so don't defend these thieves..
what is happening is Reformation orchestrated by by God, and God can use whomever He wants.
Remain blessed.

tosyne2much:
Tithing is a good thing but the way most pastors go about it these days is annoying

I thought a pastor said daddy Freeze will die within seven days if he doesn't shut his mouth? but him still no shut up

The annoying part is that Pastorpreneurs have tricked people into thinking tithe is 10% of their monthly salary. Whereas the Bible/Torah clearly states that it's 10% of Harvested crops and livestock.

Anybody giving 10% of their salary is doing voluntary donation to God's work, but they've been tricked into thinking they're "tithing"


Big scam I tell ya

tosyne2much:
I will soon write my own article

I trust you.

Let me add this maybe it may inspire something.

I know of a popular church, i looked at their church spendings and noticed 15M, 20M, 12M for medical expenses for their pastors who had become old,sick and worn out, ask them 6 years ago to give scholarships for students to study medicine and co, they would not, they now spend heavily on ....OMG..Tosin, my spirit is angry, i'll stop here

AkpaMgbor:

Show me where Jesus condemned tithe...naive sheeples.

Show us where Jesus outrightly condemned animal sacrifice too...informed sheeple

While at it, kindly give us a scriptural definition of tithe, and tell us if that is what people in church are really doing

Acidosis:


I help the poor in every way I can, but I will still give to my pastor..

Does that make me a sheeple?

am sure u cannot even afford the schools established by ur so called pastor. Now u go on to feed a man who is already filled.


Bro, post better thing abeg.

AkpaMgbor:

Show me where Jesus condemned tithe...naive sheeples.

So anything Jesus did not condemn is acceptable....... Show !e were Jesus condemn homosexuality??..... If u cannot show me, who is d naive ignorant brainwashed sheeple. U r living under a spell

[quote author=Acidosis post=63235773][/quote]Yes, u r a steeple n ur pastor is probably a rogue!

since i dnt knw btw freeze and our pastor's who is right is it not better i pay my tithe...as long as paying of d tithe is nt a sin... Than 4 me nt 2 pay only 2 die and find out dat freeze was wrong and failing 2 pay tithe made me miss heaven

AkpaMgbor:

This is why I say that most of the people being hoodwinked by freeze and his cohorts are mere church goers and biblically naive Christians..little wonder that when Christ was eating and drinking with tax collectors people accused him of mingling with sinners..they would also accuse Christ if he came today...

What will we accuse Christ of collecting tithe. He never collected tithe......pls show me a verse were Jesus paid tithe or collected tithe...else u r living under a spell cast on u by ur pastor... Or u r a pastor fighting so hard for ur daily bread

Acidosis:


[b]2. Jesus watched as the "Sheeple" widow dropped money for corrupt religious leaders but He did not free the "Sheeple"

- Mark 12:41-

So what you re saying in essence is that pple shud continue to give to the thieving pastors?

OkCornel:


Bros...even animal sacrifice was before the Law...Jesus didn't outrightly condemn animal sacrifice...so why are we not doing animal sacrifice?

Your answer to this question should clear your confusion on tithes as well...

....
U self 4 no say when Jesus died his blood washed away our sins.. The curtain of temple was torn xo we all wud have access... Owk nw 10 commandment dy old testament it says dont lie, steal,etc why up till now u still dy obey am.. Go commit aldultery nw no b sin abi its old testament

Acidosis:


Daddy freeze said we should not feed corrupt pastors.

and u re determined to feed corrupt pastors

continue and leave others who chose different

Kennydoc:


Now, suddenly, everybody is talking about helping the poor, even those who have never spent up to 20k in the past to assist the poor. It is never out of a genuine concern for the poor.
Remember when Mary broke her alabaster box and anointed the feet of Jesus with the expensive perfume. Judas Iscariot tried to rebuke her for the waste, insisting the perfume could have been sold and the proceeds given to the poor. What did Jesus tell him? He said, "the poor you will always have among you...". The truth is that poverty can never be eradicated in the society. Even in the most developed nations of the world, there are still poor people.

Can you give me a scriptural reference for the part in bold with respect to the new testament.

Can Freeze show us his philanthropic works so far, since he believes the money given to the church enriches pastors, and should otherwise be given directly to the poor. Can we see and know what Freeze has done for the poor so far. How many foundations has he set up with his money, fame and connections to help the poor he is suddenly campaigning for?

pls show us where Jesus collected tithes,
if He did not collect when He was on earth, why will He collect now that He is in Heaven, to buy Long span proofing sheets to complete your mansion in Heaven?