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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:12pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
In 2004 Ronaldinho played 3381minutes, scored 15 goals, 0.38 goal per game. Adriano for instance played 2983 minutes, scored 28, 0.76 goal per game. Henry had 0.82 goal per game. ...................... Ronaldinho is not even to be seen in top Assists that year. I checked over 70 players, whoosa. I no see am. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 4:16pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
raumdeuter: In the midst of all this brouhaha, you are actually making a solid point here. Take out Dinho's productivity and all you are left with is another Jay Jay Okocha. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 4:23pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
raumdeuter: I swear I did not even see this |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:38pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
I just discovered Lampard beat Ronaldinho in Assists in 2005, I thought they levelled. Using league and UCL. I am yet to see any Calendar year Ronaldinho top Assists among the top 5 leagues. He was no where in 2004. Lampard beat him in 2005. Klose beat him in 2006. No where to be find in 2007. Ronaldo won the highest Assist in 2007, Klose, Fabregas, Arteta, Ibra, Deco, Young, Rooney and dozens followed before Ronaldinho 2008, De Piero, Kaka, Young, Xavi, Schweinsteiger, Fabregas, Dani Alves were join highest with 14 Assists |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 4:48pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
Basically "You nor know ball" |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:01pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
Same person comparing Hazard to Lewandowski but don’t want you to compare Ronaldinho to Thiery Henry. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 5:10pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Produce these numbers and the years. So according to you they gave Ronaldinho a futuric balon d'or award years before those stats even mattered!? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:10pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
Lana1:na last season troll u still dey hold against me what happened to forgive and forget? I take Whatever u worship beg u,let me heal in peace. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 5:19pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
elampiro:Dayo is someone that can twist amala with just his mind better than Xavier. He has transformed Ronaldinho to the king of assists but hasn't stated what those figures are, what he won, how consistent were those outputs for him to even refer to them as a reason... for what exactly , Raumdeuter has carefully not stated what benefits those 3, yes 1 2 3, stats have to do with Ronaldinho and being best player. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:20pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
elampiro: Ronaldinho was injured in 2003/04 season when he recovered Barca was already in 11th position in December 2003. From the time he recovered tll end of the season he scored 11 goals to get Barca to 2nd |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:21pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
Ronaldinho has 9 Assists in Champions League history. These players have more than he had. Now, someone said he was known for Assists?
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:22pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
BlueAngel444: Ronaldinho converted his dribbles to goals and assists he topped assists charts, in CL La Liga and Serrie A, He was 3rd top scorer in the league Without his goals and assists Ronaldinho would be no different from Okocha |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:23pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
elampiro: He topped the assist charts in 1 season plus 18 goals How many goals and asisst does Hazard have in the same 6 seasons that ROnaldinho played ROnaldinho played 6 seasons of CL and had 13 assists, How many in those your list only played 6 seasons |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:29pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
raumdeuter: The chart shows Ronaldinho was not known for Assists. Anyone can top UCL Assists in a particular season. For instance, Rooney topped in 2013/2014. Ronaldinho is known for dribbling, skills and forward play. Ronaldinho is ahead of Hazard in football. But Hazard is ahead of many many footballers who score week in week out. Okocha you mentioned earlier is not known for forward play and productive dribblings. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:38pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
elampiro: Ronaldinho topped the CL assist in 1 season out of 6. Show us 1 season Hazard has done the same Ronaldinho without the goals and assist will never be regarded higher than Okocha, earlier in ROnaldinho career that was how he used to play until he brought productivity into it Hazard has 8 goals in CL in 6 seasons Ronaldo had 18 goals in 6 seasons Hazard is not ahead of many anything Maybe the likes of Bolasie and Puncheon. There is a reason no one reckons with Hazard in football at the highest level |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:39pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
elampiro: Elampiro you said Okocha was not known for productive dribble, while Ronaldinho was known for productive dribbles Please can you tell us what productive dribble means |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 5:45pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Nice copy and paste, I see you have nothing else to say concerning the discuss. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 5:49pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
raumdeuter: |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:50pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
BlueAngel444: Copy from who? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:51pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Don't you know what purposeful football is? Maradona for instance was always dribbling towards the goal. You see Messi, you see Ronaldo. Same with Ronaldinho, but not as purposeful as Maradona. You saw what he did to Ashley Cole to set up Brazil's goal at the world cup. But Okocha would go forward one time, the next times he would turn a return... I know you would go get youtube where Ronaldinho also turned and turned beating someone. Even Maradona or Messi did same, but there is a difference. What killed Okocha, Nani, Mephis Depay is that they mostly isolated themselves while trying out their skills. Their team mates would be waiting for them in the box area while they would still be trying to get past one or two men. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:53pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
Champions League all time lead scorers
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:07pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
elampiro: The difference was Maradona Messi ROnaldo Ronaldinhos dribbles led to goals That is why they are productive dribbles, any dribble that doesnt contribute to a goal is not productive. So you are now saying Ronaldinhos dribbles were productive because it led to goals and assists. Think of Ronaldinhos best dribbles, You yourself mentioned the one vs Ashley Cole in 2002 that he assisted Rivaldo the 2 at El classico vs Madrid that led to goals Yet you are telling us Ronaldinhos goals was not to score or assist blueangel444 you see how elampiro has come around to admit that Ronaldinhos goals were purposeful because it led to productive output 3 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:08pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
elampiro: Separate the 9 from the AM and also tell how many seasons of CL each of them played ROnaldinho played 6 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:13pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
Obere4u:Poling booth award |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 6:42pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Pappi Hazard have done nothing I accept. Please can you tell the house what Iniesta did in Euro 2012 fonal that got him the MoTM award ? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:48pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
Obere4u: I cant tell you what he did in EUro 2012, I can tell you what he did at 2009 CL semi, 2009 CL final, world cup 2010, CL 2011, 2011 CL final, La Liga 2013, CL 2015 and final Scored the greatest goal in Spanish football history When will Hidden Hazard start performing in big games, He will be 27 in less than a month |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pamcode(m): 6:52pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
raumdeuter:I just checked wiki. In 2005-2006 season Dinho was top assister in La Liga and was joint top assister with three other guys - Eto, Pienaar Micouud but he had the highest minutes played. He was top assister in Serie A 2009/2010 with 14. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pamcode(m): 7:03pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Hazard was Joint top assister with Ramsey in Euros 2016 with 4 assists. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Obere4u: 7:25pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
raumdeuter:So we can compare Eder and Iniesta as both scored the greatest goal for their country? And also we can concluded that as regards euro 2012, iniesta was a carry along in the tournament? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:53pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Dem no de ever de win you for argument. You too de turn. Chai |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:54pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
pamcode: Even Sunday Mba. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 8:15pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
Amala turning at its best |
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