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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:51pm On Dec 15, 2017
Joebie:
I have long accepted the MRI as a very very very good standard.
You say the MRI is not 100%, the yardstick that you have been using to measure the EPL, is it fool proof, sir Komekn ?
If we choose not to accept the ages of the players that have passed the MRI, then let's also not trust science. Everything is hardly 100% accurate.


In all developed countries thier is automatic birth data capture at birth indeed even prior there is data.

The MRI is the best thing that happened to Nigerian football, it means the wholescale blatant abuse of the past where old men declared themselves as teenagers has stopped.

However, being Nigerian where there is a will there is a way. A Nigerian born in the USA failed his MRI scan for the U17 team.

If you cut age it's almost now impossible to shade 4/5/6 years off your age. Possibly 2/3 years but not much else.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:52pm On Dec 15, 2017
goldfish80:
Discrediting players based on age is quite petty. Emphasis should be on performance not age.
The Swiss grand master Roger Federer at 36 played his best tennis at the Aussie open and Wimbledon. As a matter of fact, he won the Wimbledon without dropping a set.

In athletics, current world 100 meters champion Justin Gatlin is no spring chicken.

How about basketball? LeBron James is 32 and still looks unstoppable. I watch him power through games and dominate much younger players with ruthless abandon.

Stated above are 3 physically demanding sports. One may even argue these sports are much more physically demanding than football, yet the best in these sports aren't teenagers.

I don't know why people insist we must go to the world cup with an U23 team. Not when the last 4 world cup finals have been contested by older and experienced teams.
Anyone in doubt should check the average age of world cup finalists from 2006-2014

Agreed without reservation
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:54pm On Dec 15, 2017
Mujtahida:

Let's see how far premiership clubs go in the Champions league this season.

We deh talk KC matta u carry anoda direction enta Shoo whaaaaten naw.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 9:05pm On Dec 15, 2017
komekn:


How do you know they are all U13.

I have been at a EPL academy and there is a boy brought not from West Africa in the U 12 category. He is killing everyone but they have shaved 2/3 years of his age.

I know boys brought in from Guinea Bissau at thus stage just two years off the age and he's top of the group. And will remain top until first team one of these boys has a transfer fee now of £8 million.

So the quest for competitive advantage causes corrupt practices even here. So I doubt that Nigeria will be any different.

I will tell you u have association with academies in Nigeria and Benin city in particular. And it's not hidden what they are doing.

So if you think I will be made to feel that my experiential observation are incorrect that will simply not work.

The problem we have mirrors the Nigerian situation we know that most police and politician are corrupt. That we find it hard to believe that any honest ones exist, there will be but, we all remain skeptical.
You have a very big problem.
To you even if a child is born this night, but as far as he is born in Nigeria that child must be older by the number of years you chose to believe.

I don't know who did this to.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:13pm On Dec 15, 2017
The point is you have to accept the MRI anyways.
If you want to assume that 100% of Nigerians who pass the test are age cheats by a 2/3 years margin, it remains a mere assumption. For me, most — if not all — are actually within the said age range.
komekn:


In all developed countries thier is automatic birth data capture at birth indeed even prior there is data.

The MRI is the best thing that happened to Nigerian football, it means the wholescale blatant abuse of the past where old men declared themselves as teenagers has stopped.

However, being Nigerian where there is a will there is a way. A Nigerian born in the USA failed his MRI scan for the U17 team.

If you cut age it's almost now impossible to shade 4/5/6 years off your age. Possibly 2/3 years but not much else.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:13pm On Dec 15, 2017
safarigirl:
Congratulations tbaba1234, at least Naijaphobia's son will now have iyawo-in-waiting grin
Wow! Nice one!
So Sir T. don became Baba. Congratulations @Tbaba... Pardon if this is coming late.

I hope you'll start next season with an hat-trick. So we can have Tbaba...234.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 9:15pm On Dec 15, 2017
gbosaa:



That muthaphucka is snitching on us, it’s not as if they can’t watch and analyse Super Eagles’s matches but a Nigerian displaying such attitude on a foreign/enemy’s forum is stupid.

He was just trying to show off his debating skills. He riled and disrespected the Croats boasting that Nigeria would beat them by 3 unreplied goals!, bragged about the victory over the Argies in the last friendly and he got the sort of responses he deserved.

Let’s not be carried away by that victory. Argentina missed lots of chances. We might have a young and hardworking team of energetic young men but Croatia is highly favoured to win, the goal keeping issue might haunt us if we don’t sort it out.
I hope we be able to stifle the threats of the likes of Perisic. He is fast, very skilful and can shoot hard and precisely at narrow and tight angles. Shehu, Ebuehi need to be fit and in top form to deal with that. Manzudkic is strong and deadly,Kalinic, Ratikic all are serious threats feeding off the deadly passes of Modric. The winner of that first match might top the group. I think Croatia will not lose to Argentina and I have a feeling Argentina might have a bad experience in Russia. I wish them disaster.

That boy ‘Super Eagles’ should stop showing off and disrescting Croatia. They see him as a Serb troll probably because of his knowledge of Croatia history and politics.

been following the thread as well, that dude really needs to tune down. he talks too much. he is just trying to make a point about his intelligence, and that's sad. they would still racially define his perspectives.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:17pm On Dec 15, 2017
My point is if we must pick players from the big leagues they should be at least above average

Modified
I know you like to be objective and run with league rankings.
Let me advise you. watch other leagues and be a little subjective as well. Appreciate football generally. There is more to football beyond the English leagues.

komekn:


When a league is rated 10 positions above another the matter of superiority is not for debate.

That there are exceptional players in low level leagues is not in doubt. However, they stand out and end up leaving as they become so outstanding.

If we pick players from low level leagues they should be unquestionably outstanding. That's my position.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:27pm On Dec 15, 2017
Our way of doing things will not change just because of our football. It’s actually the other way round
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:29pm On Dec 15, 2017
Orkpekyandega:

You have a very big problem.
To you even if a child is born this night, but as far as he is born in Nigeria that child must be older by the number of years you chose to believe.

I don't know who did this to.
lol...may it never be well with that person.

Komekn be forming Naija to the blood, bit he has no faith in the country or the people. That is not Naija to the blood, his blood is tainted

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:30pm On Dec 15, 2017
BlackAlbino6:

Soar Eagles!
Soar higher in Russia!!
longest time Bro.

Our team is taking shape.
They are making me dream again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:32pm On Dec 15, 2017
edi287:

I know about Sokari. He's used to be dubbed as the "Nigerian iniesta" those days. My point is many said Rohr is looking for someone to replicate Onazi's work and I'm asking why Sokari and not Joel Obi and Azubuike?? Both have better defensive qualities and offer more versatility(especially Joel Obi). I'm not against inviting him but it'd be unfair if someone like J Obi doesn't get an opportunity as well.
life itself is not fair bro.....
sometimes opportunities does not come across to everyone at the same time...
but when opportunity meet preparation...that's the best.
I pray sokari prove himself and impress well....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:39pm On Dec 15, 2017
tbaba1234:


Awaziem did shackle Neymar for a period in the game.

He did not. Neymar wrecked him and his mates. The only thing they did well was commiting lots of foul and getting booked.

Nantes were lucky not to concede more goals.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 9:49pm On Dec 15, 2017
kennysville:


I disagree bruh! They dont have the same playing style. Onyekuru has a higher work rate and thats what he has over players like Calvert. Thats y in modern day football, there is no such thing as starting 11 anymore. Else you get predictable every now and then. And what happens when members of ur supposed startin 11 get injured?

If club managers arent bias and will play according to their strengths, the results will be there for all to see. Look at Arsenal's last game! They played with the intensity required. They were just unlucky to come away with a draw. It was the first time I saw Wenger play with attacking intent throwing all his guns out. Not with sentiments. You could see Iwobi given the permission to shoot unlike when he was always passing

Don't disagree with me just yet.

Are we not talking about the EPL? No starting eleven no more in modern football, yet Musa, Slimani, Nacho, Ulloa never really seem to play from minute to zero minutes totally?

The quality of Onyekuru is not in doubt here, would he be given a fair chance to show us how different he is from the rest?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 9:53pm On Dec 15, 2017
Mujtahida:

Let's see how far premiership clubs go in the Champions league this season.

They'd go far this season.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:57pm On Dec 15, 2017
Everyone is happy!
Nigerians are once again United.

One National Team!
One People!
One Nation!
One Goal!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:58pm On Dec 15, 2017
Oliseh's team is top of the Jupiler league... Impressive... He is building a good reputation.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 10:03pm On Dec 15, 2017
junnyjake:


Don't disagree with me just yet.

Are we not talking about the EPL? No starting eleven no more in modern football, yet Musa, Slimani, Nacho, Ulloa never really seem to play from minute to zero minutes totally?

The quality of Onyekuru is not in doubt here, would he be given a fair chance to show us how different he is from the rest?

He is not playing for Leicester chief, its Everton he joined and Everton could use a lot of help right nw
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 10:06pm On Dec 15, 2017
I'm so sorry for your losses @Certitude and TheGoodJoe. Life itself is a gift. Though humanly speaking, It's always a painful thing when people loose their loved ones.
I hope you guys come out of this a stronger and better men making everytime you spent here worthwhile...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:08pm On Dec 15, 2017
safarigirl:
nowadays indeed
Aside Nwakali, mention any other unmerited or odd call up. Una just wan talk
If say na you be coach, we for dey call up ineligible players sef grin
Hehehe, remember Aaron Samuel? That guy needed to find excuse to leave camp.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:09pm On Dec 15, 2017
tbaba1234:


Accept my condolences, bro. My thoughts and prayers are with you and certitude.

Thank you and God bless you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:10pm On Dec 15, 2017
AIG07:
I'm so sorry for your losses @Certitude and TheGoodJoe. Life itself is a gift. Though humanly speaking, It's always a painful thing when people loose their loved ones.
I hope you guys come out of this a stronger and better men making everytime you spent here worthwhile...

Thank you and God bless you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:15pm On Dec 15, 2017
Icon79:
Bingo! You nailed it bro!

Careers have been made and destroyed simply because someone finds himself in a good or bad situation. A few years back Christian Benteke was setting the EPL on fire. Where is he now? A few years ago Wilfred Bony was one of the hottest strikers in the EPL. Where is he today? A few years ago, Joe Hart was being called one of the best goalkeepers in the world but the arrival of Pep practically spelled doom to his career.

Seriously guys, we need to think twice before criticizing some of our players. Sometimes it takes more than "hard work" to get ahead in this world.



O pari


What might work for one might work against another. But once a manager is sold on you, you'd get all the chances to prove yourself.

When Son Hueng Min, his teammate first arrived from Bayern Leverkusen, he was poor for one full season, but the next season he made history with Tottenham by scoring above 20 goals with Alli and Kane.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:19pm On Dec 15, 2017
Icon79:
Nigeria is useless country, mhen. We can't even maintain our national stadium? Can't they afford common lawn mowers?


O pari o


hehehehe, you vex o.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:27pm On Dec 15, 2017
Accept my sincere condolence TheGoodJoe. Sorry
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:36pm On Dec 15, 2017
komekn:


The EPL will not change for any player. You have to hit the ground running, time is a very scarce commodity you get 2/ 3 games to show your quality after that if you don't know show quality. You could be dropped.

Whether you are from England or you are from China it doesn't matter.

That's great, buy as much players as you can afford, give them 3 matches to play, they fail to deliver, discard them for another set of New players. Wonderful!

Wasn't Son given a whole season to blend in, how is he fairing now for Tottenham?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:43pm On Dec 15, 2017
komekn:


Ndidi coming from the lowly Belguim league has performed KC coming from the high flying Manchester city has flopped for Leicester.

During Vardy's goal drought last season, who replaced him in the starting 11, as an English player you are permitted to lose form while playing and continue playing until you get back into form.

But as a African player:

- You cannot make errors.
-You're not permitted to lose form.
- You'd have to work twice as hard before you get a look in.
- You are not permitted to be average.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:45pm On Dec 15, 2017
komekn:


Ndidi coming from the lowly Belguim league has performed KC coming from the high flying Manchester city has flopped for Leicester.

Was Ndidi signed to replace Kante or not? Who was Nacho brought in to replace.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 10:52pm On Dec 15, 2017
komekn:


You know I will say this again my DNA is Nigerian I like show boating, skills and flair. I have had to realise sometimes, it's just playing to the gallery and it's not always resulting in effective delivery for advantage in the field of play.

Nathan Oduwa has the skills and technical ability. But his delivery to gain advantage is some how missing. His work rate and anticipation is suspect. He has been seriously over taken in my opinion by small boys in Tottenham.

I remember Tega Onomah at Tottenham too he was playing all that show boating stuff. He has changed reading the game working hard incredible anticipation and the eye for a killer defence splitting pass. Totally unselfish.

Mark my words next season I see him making waves.

That's sad for Nathan, Slovenia is far too low for him, don't you think? Well, he's just 21, I hope he gets his acts together soon.


I also have same views on Onomah, that boy is something.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:07pm On Dec 15, 2017
tbaba1234:
Oliseh's team is top of the Jupiler league... Impressive... He is building a good reputation.

Really impressive.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:10pm On Dec 15, 2017
kennysville:


He is not playing for Leicester chief, its Everton he joined and Everton could use a lot of help right nw

You said modern football which sounded to me like you views were totally inclusive.

Mark my words, Onyekuru is not walking straight into their starting 11 by January, except they let some of their players leave.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:22pm On Dec 15, 2017
JUST IN: Enyeama's coach fired! -

.com - source

Dec 15, 2017 1:00 PM




Vincent Enyeama's coach at the French club, Lille, Marcelo Bielsa has been fired.

The arrival of Bielsa at Lille has never added anything positive for Enyeama; hence it would not be surprising if the former Nigeria international does not lose sleep over Friday's development. 

 The 62-year-old former Argentina, Chile and Athletic Bilbao coach, who is acclaimed by the likes of Pep Guardiola, Mauricio Pochettino and Jorge Sampaoli as a coaching visionary, was appointed by Lille amid great fanfare this May.

Biesla was installed as head coach as Les Dogues underwent a huge squad overhaul, with former Barcelona vice-president Marc Ingla and ex-Monaco technical director Luis Campos brought on to the board by ambitious new owner Gerard Lopez.

 But a 3-0 victory over Nantes on the opening weekend of the Ligue 1 season proved to be a false dawn as Lille took three points from nine subsequent winless matches.

Bielsa was summoned to a meeting with Lille officials for "an interview prior to a possible dismissal".

However, his lawyer confirmed his client did not attend that meeting and the club finally confirmed his departure via a brief statement on their Twitter page on Friday.

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