GavelSlam:


It is not crap.

It is still the standard in the UK today.

mmsen:


Compared to rail services in most other countries it's more expensive and slower.

And that is a general issue with British rail services in general - hence why people have been clamoring for the state to take over rail services again, prices have gone up but service has gotten worse.

There's nothing wrong with it if it's priced accordingly but in the UK it isn't.

Jaideyone:
hahahaha clown.

Yorubas have been more of ACN/APC/AD in the last 16 years.

for presidency we voted AD in 1999, PDP in 2003, PDP in 2007, PDP in 2011 and APC in 2015. ibos have voted PDP in all the five presidential elections!!!

erico2k2:

These two are different though as the one in the UK o's electric we can't ha e that . We use diesel

Reference:
OP, 160 kph is not high speed in the world of trains but as a fan of rail transport am excited Nigeria is showing sustained interest in this direction and commend the government for backing this up with concrete steps.

We donot need to start with high speed trains and we donot need to start with passenger traffic. The government should invest more into cargo traffic where the problem lies and where the money is to further expand investment.

It breaks my heart to see what we transport cross cou try on our roads, cargoes that are not worth the roads they pass on. Roads are built primarily to be 'soft' for comfort travel and to to ease the wear on tyres. They have load limits and when this is exceeded the normally elastic bituminous infusion gives way. Rail lines on the other hand are made from high strength corrosion resistant alloyed steel which is near indestructible. The load limits are tens of times more than roads and maintenance is just a fraction of the cost. So when we use our highways to haul such heavy loads as cement, stones, steel products and such worth less cargoes as farm produce we are eroding the resources with which to expamd and deepen our infrastructure foot print. Not surprising that we have not launched or comissioned any major, meaningful piece of transportation infrastructure in the last decade and a half. We are just battling to maintain the ones we have and losing that battle.

If the government can provide a carrot in reliable cross country rail services and a stick in heavy tolling of articulated vehicles on the highway we can save huge amounts off our annual budget. The roads will be safer, last longer and enable us to focus on building newer, more efficient ones.

Thus is what investors both local and foreign look out for, cost and efficiency of transport. Rail transport is known world wide to be the safest, cheapest and most reliable. When government has satisfied commerce and industry it can then focus on passenger transport. As a matter of fact this is best done by states which should invest in city to city linkages where the bulk of traffic resides. There are a lot more people travelling from parts of Ogun or Oyo to Lagos or Rivers to Abia or Anambra to Imo or Kano to Kaduna than there are folks travelling from say Kano to Lagos or Abuja to Portharcourt. States can do even more in this regards.

Reference:
OP, 160 kph is not high speed in the world of trains but as a fan of rail transport am excited Nigeria is showing sustained interest in this direction and commend the government for backing this up with concrete steps.

We donot need to start with high speed trains and we donot need to start with passenger traffic. The government should invest more into cargo traffic where the problem lies and where the money is to further expand investment.

It breaks my heart to see what we transport cross cou try on our roads, cargoes that are not worth the roads they pass on. Roads are built primarily to be 'soft' for comfort travel and to to ease the wear on tyres. They have load limits and when this is exceeded the normally elastic bituminous infusion gives way. Rail lines on the other hand are made from high strength corrosion resistant alloyed steel which is near indestructible. The load limits are tens of times more than roads and maintenance is just a fraction of the cost. So when we use our highways to haul such heavy loads as cement, stones, steel products and such worth less cargoes as farm produce we are eroding the resources with which to expamd and deepen our infrastructure foot print. Not surprising that we have not launched or comissioned any major, meaningful piece of transportation infrastructure in the last decade and a half. We are just battling to maintain the ones we have and losing that battle.

If the government can provide a carrot in reliable cross country rail services and a stick in heavy tolling of articulated vehicles on the highway we can save huge amounts off our annual budget. The roads will be safer, last longer and enable us to focus on building newer, more efficient ones.

Thus is what investors both local and foreign look out for, cost and efficiency of transport. Rail transport is known world wide to be the safest, cheapest and most reliable. When government has satisfied commerce and industry it can then focus on passenger transport. As a matter of fact this is best done by states which should invest in city to city linkages where the bulk of traffic resides. There are a lot more people travelling from parts of Ogun or Oyo to Lagos or Rivers to Abia or Anambra to Imo or Kano to Kaduna than there are folks travelling from say Kano to Lagos or Abuja to Portharcourt. States can do even more in this regards.

HAH:
If you have been on this train from abuja to kaduna you will appreciate it, to me it is better than the ones I used between London and Manchester.

The train are probably going to abuja for the kaduna route as the minister promised more coaches, no one that used that train that is not impressed, the train has a speed of 160 but actual used is between 100-120

sleepyeyez:
these rubbish looking things?
worn out carriages that went out of use years back n got shipped down to Africa as usual.
naija the refuse dump. who knows how much d naija middle man got from this shoddy deal.
google high speed trains n see what they really look like.

GavelSlam:


Is that a problem?

erico2k2:

ues Diesel is a problem when you add the Nigerian factor

sleepyeyez:
these rubbish looking things?
worn out carriages that went out of use years back n got shipped down to Africa as usual.
naija the refuse dump. who knows how much d naija middle man got from this shoddy deal.
google high speed trains n see what they really look like.

HAH:
If you have been on this train from abuja to kaduna you will appreciate it, to me it is better than the ones I used between London and Manchester.

The train are probably going to abuja for the kaduna route as the minister promised more coaches, no one that used that train that is not impressed, the train has a speed of 160 but actual used is between 100-120

Coolboi05:

I totally agree with you, I use the train mostly when going for weekend and back. Most people here are only commenting based on the picture they saw; it doesnt have a pointy nose, or they wan see bullet train

GavelSlam:


No one clamours for the state to take over anything in the UK because it is a capitalist nation. They could ask for reforms on how they are awarded or managed but government doesn't take over anything especially as there is council autonomy .

Rail service is expensive in all of Western Europe be it Italy, Germany or France.

Heck, even in the states rail travel isn't cheap or any better.

We should avoid criticising just for the sake of it.

These trains are the present standard worldwide though there are more modern, top of the range variants.

By the way, should we be abandoning rail for hyperloop?

raker300:
Op

This is what high speed trains look like

Stop lying to the people

mmsen:


People in the UK seem to be complaining about rail services and fare rises whenever I'm there.

Bring Back British Rail:
https://www.bringbackbritishrail.org/

Government planning possible take-over of Southern rail – report:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/25/government-reported-to-be-planning-to-nationalise-southern-rail-franchise

Four Myths of British Rail Privatization:
https://actionforrail.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Four_Big_Myths_Rail_Privatisation_Report_2015_LR.pdf

As to your point about American trains - they are cheaper depending on which part of the country you are in. Commuter rail in the Chicago area is a cheaper, likewise fares in the New York, New Jersey area. But no one has ever claimed that American rail is better.

iamrammy:
hater,na Jonathan buy these outdated ones abi?

chiagozien:
get out you sound like a kid.

GavelSlam:


They mean taking it back and re-awarding it to a more competent firm as they (Southern Rails) make losses .

mmsen:


Did you click on the other links?

British Rail was the government owned/operated entity before privatization.

It's an issue that is debated a lot, or at least when I happen to be in the UK. Especially when the rail companies raise the fares without improving quality of service.

GavelSlam:

I read the guardian link.

“In the meantime GTR are picking up billion pounds a year, and the cost to the public purse from lost revenue is £38m – the government must take a decision. How ever unpalatable, they can’t let this continue.”

raker300:
Op

This is what high speed trains look like

Stop lying to the people

princeade86:
resemble old train. I dought if dis thing can fast.

erico2k2:

what do you mean better than the one you used btw London and Manchester . You forgot it's Virgin trains that ply that rout direct ? Or are you telling us this craap is better than the tilting trains Virgin has? oh plzzzzz

Blessograo:
God punish whoever told us this is a high speed train from China cos this is the slowest train in China and it's highest speed is nothing compared to bullet trains slowest speed. I'm in China so I know what high speed train looks like, these assholes in the government have been scamming us for long. This is what high speed train looks like not that piece of tin and we don't even have electricity to run them. Bullet trains also have wifi and I doubt that one does.

Coolboi05:

I totally agree with you, I use the train mostly when going for weekend and back. Most people here are only commenting based on the picture they saw; it doesnt have a pointy nose, or they wan see bullet train