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Poll: What Is Your Priority?

University Degrees: 26% (9 votes)
Dignity: 73% (25 votes)
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Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by amaikama(m): 5:13pm On May 17, 2009
@pappy!!! seun would love the educated prostitute than a drop out dignified lady cause he is a man of a socialite and such men don't value dignity but wayward educated women who can help spread the virus when the world is trying to contain it. angry
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by astuto: 6:14pm On May 17, 2009
ha ha ha ha , amaikama you no go kill pesin o grin grin You dey vex o, ha ha ha grin
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by astuto: 6:23pm On May 17, 2009
ha ha ha ha , amaikama you no go kill pesin o grin grin You dey vex o, ha ha ha grin
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by GeorgeD1(m): 8:24pm On May 17, 2009
It simply goes to show how far we have fallen morally as a nation. Sad!
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by mssiah(m): 9:51pm On May 17, 2009
A LovePeddler is a LovePeddler and it takes the grace of God for one to change.

The risk factor to marry such a lady is high,so it is wise not to get married to a LovePeddler.Be it a graduate ,dropout or an illterate.Because when things get rough they will go back to the fastest means of survival they know.(HUMAN SURVIVAL INSTINCTS)

But like we all know ,love is the strongest emotion and it conquers all.
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by fayahsoul: 11:57pm On May 17, 2009
To avoid misoverstandings that stem from semantics when we speak in a false tongue(english), it is important to frame a question as clearly as possible.

Dignity has a political and ethical dimension. The former deals with the human rights of underdogs and therefore sees dignity as determined by societal norms while the latter deals with virtues(self-respect, autonomy, self-esteem etc) which are an attribbute of the individual.

From an ethical dimension, dignity is independent of the level of formal education attained. In fact, it's undignified 4 an afurakan to take pride in attending these eurocentric schools that turn-out grads who are conformists and slavishly cooperative with western agenda. Where are the intellectual revolutionaries? Besides, we had a concept of dignity in pre-modern times.

As for self-hating chicken heads who put a price on the temple of God(their body), what I will say for now is that the means justifies the means. Note also that prostitution comes in other forms like working for crumbs or having a boss. A slave, whether well paid or underpaid, is still a slave and one is a slave if one lacks autonomy.

I rather be a lion in the jungle than a dog in the city!
 
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by JJYOU: 8:52am On May 18, 2009
fayahsoul:

To avoid misoverstandings that stem from semantics when we speak in a false tongue(english), it is important to frame a question as clearly as possible.

Dignity has a political and ethical dimension. The former deals with the human rights of underdogs and therefore sees dignity as determined by societal norms while the latter deals with virtues(self-respect, autonomy, self-esteem etc) which are an attribbute of the individual.

From an ethical dimension, dignity is independent of the level of formal education attained. In fact, it's undignified 4 an afurakan to take pride in attending these eurocentric schools that turn-out grads who are conformists and slavishly cooperative with western agenda. Where are the intellectual revolutionaries? Besides, we had a concept of dignity in pre-modern times.

As for self-hating chicken heads who put a price on the temple of God(their body), what I will say for now is that the means justifies the means. [color=#990000]Note also that prostitution comes in other forms like working for crumbs or having a boss. A slave, whether well paid or underpaid, is still a slave and one is a slave if one lacks autonomy.


I rather be a lion in the jungle than a dog in the city![/color] 

there is dignity in labour.
Theblessed:

Well, having read most of the commentaries regarding this aristos (whatever that meant). 
For all I know, the world is not a fair place - GOOD GIRLS' DON'T MAKE IT, BAD GIRLS' DO AND THEY USUALLY END UP WITH THE BEST! This is because, men generally like excitements and prepared to spend time and money for it.  Therefore, women who understand this and are prepared to give up their dignity and swim along are sure to catch the fattest worm.  Afterall, if not for curiosity and excitement why are very rich men with beautiful wives at home pay thousands of pounds for a minute shot on fun, huh!!  Would you want to be married to such men?  No, I'd rather be lonely and happy on my own than miserable in a marriage like this. Yes, we all have different values - some women would ignore such behaviour and stay in the marriage as long as money keeps flowing their way however, independent women like myself would flip and kick his URGLY A-S.  I am not 'a die in a marriage at all cost type' as I'm happy to answer my maiden name any time afterall, I am still my father's daughter, marriage or not, abi What't the heck if marriage wouldn't work?   Because, a rich man, wouldn't give a tosh and most of them don' care if they have wives at home or not and are prepared to fund these women in a like it or lump it manner.  They say DEMAND triggers SUPPLY and would I blame the single aristos girls for wanting a head in life?  No, I blame the men mainly married ones among them for paying attention to these ladies.  A prostitute is a prostitute.  It does not matter which Armani they decorated themselves with?  They are every man's woman - rich and poor, truck pushers, sh-t packers and all, it does not matter.  To them, what matters are, shine the dosh and, they go, go! 
To me, no truely decent guy would touch such women with a badge pole but how many of you guys on here can truely swear decency let alone men with money who could do as they pleases - IT'S ALL ABOUT POWER, people! 
why all these grammar.? some of us can barely read and write here you are breaking grammar. i beg break this down to my level.
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by solosimple(m): 9:56am On May 18, 2009
I think nigerian gloomy economy has put a high percentage our women into alot of calamities in the name of education.

I tell you is not only ARISTOS that have taken a good sample of our brides-to-be in the name of getting a mean of survival. many PROFESSORS and LECTURERS have also contributed considerably in devalueing our tomorrow's wives in the name of awarding good grades.

These girls generally believe getting a degree is automatic to making it in life only to be faced with problems of unemployment after graduation and the harassment continues with employers.

Invariably, many ladies become used to using this "power of the buttom" to find their ways and the process continues. Really, I believe self dignity is important while not jeopardising eduaction. mind you, the education doesnt necessarily have to formal or a degree education.

we're in trouble. Cry

The roof is not just leaking anymore, it's been completely removed.

from buying WAEC questions, to sleeping with lecturers for grades, and now prostituting to earn a degree. What else after degree? A mother and wife who'd prolly sleep with father in law to keep her marriage if need be. As it's also very acceptable to use all avenues to keep your marriage, isn't it?

are we going to simply keep looking, move on like if this cancer will not affect us or our kids?

Get rich quick mentality, greed, materialism, low moral standards, lack of ambition and drive. . .
These are just some of the reasons why more and more girls are into aristo runs, whoever said they do it to get through school obviously doesnt know anything. They'r greedy and feel the need to "fit in" by buyin expensive clothing and all the other stuff that are clearly beyond their means, some of them even come from well to do homes, but stiill want more
It is not only university girls that are involved, women in the corporate world as well, lot of them even married!!
Afterall there are very beautiful young girls who still take up low paying but decent jobs in eatries or whatever jus to see them selves through school, those aristo girls are jus a filthy and greedy bunch, did you know that alot of them employ fetish means to get and hold the attention of some of their "clients"?

what bullshit, perhaps boys from poor backgrounds should go into armed robbery to fund their education as well.

the long and short of it IMHO is that they are women who have decided to use their bodies as a source of financial aggrandizement , and you can bet they will continue to do it when they graduate, albeit in a more refined setting, there are plenty of high ranking women in corporate nigeria whose only marketable skills are toggling the MDs staff of office.



nigerians are way too found of using their circumstances as an excuse for any kind of reprehensible behavior.

Good points
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by GeorgeD1(m): 9:57am On May 18, 2009
Learn to use the spell check feature, bros. It will do you a lot of good.
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by Kitomania(m): 10:18am On May 18, 2009
It is a pity we have found our self this mess today But what really causes this was the over-emphasis on the Certificate rather than Merit today the Government that causes this are by the side watching the wall are crumbling with poor and greedy undergraduates, On the GOOD GIRL'S DON'T MAKE IT, BAD GIRL'S DO AND THEY USUALLY END UP WITH THE BEST, ! it not true because (Azzzanniyatuu-waw-zanni Lay yankibuu Illa-zanniyatann auumushiiri-kattan) they are not getting the best they are getting was is the same with them, as often they end-up been mistresses to either their boss or co-workers, As many can really show up to defend their certificate at work so they have to keep bribing in way they knew best in other to be carried along or to maintain position or posting that they are worthy of at the who looses is the job that would suffer,
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by Afribiz(f): 10:29am On May 18, 2009
FL Gators:

My education is my priority, and that, is my dignity.

lol smiley wink wink
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by bsanya(f): 12:26pm On May 18, 2009
I will face my studies and do some little work dat will earn me sumthing 2 pay 4 my skul fee
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by GeorgeD1(m): 2:37pm On May 18, 2009
That's the point. But which kind of work would you do?
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by fayahsoul: 3:58pm On May 18, 2009
JJYOU:

there is dignity in labour.

I knew someone would come back with that one.

Yes there's dignity in labour; however, the set  of rules(whether internalized or imposed) and established avenues through which an individuals' labour input can be used to acquire stuff determines if the work is dignified or not.

Example: Prostitution is also labour but just because it is labour does not mean that it's dignified.

Example: If someone cannot own their labour by having the power to determine(with full discretion) where, when and how much energy to expend  and  also be the sole beneficiary of the rewards from energy input, then that labour is not dignified since the worker lacks autonomy. Any form of labour that is done under externally imposed set of rules and proceedures that determines, among things, when your labour is needed, how it must applied and how much it's worth, is not dignified. Ever wonder why christ, buddah, krishna and other moral authorities did not have bosses?

So There is an intervening variable between labour and dignity.

Don't just focus on the action of labour on its own; consider also the underlying social structure in which it is embedded
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Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by GeorgeD1(m): 7:59pm On May 18, 2009
Carry on my man. Na you biko!
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by nezerst(f): 11:55pm On May 18, 2009
How do u define a LovePeddler?
WHETHER U R 4KING FOR LOVE OR FOR MONEY, THERE IS ALWAYS A GIVE N TAKE
TAKIING PLACE.
ME I FEEL SAY IF U WAN DO,MAKE U DO WETIN GO YIELD RESULT LIKE MONEY N DEGREE NO BE TO DE DO OSHOFRI COME DEY JUDGE PEPLE.
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by Oxone(m): 2:46am On May 19, 2009
they go hand in hand

cant separate them
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by JJYOU: 9:50am On May 19, 2009
fayahsoul:

I knew someone would come back with that one.

Yes there's dignity in labour; however, the set  of rules(whether internalized or imposed) and established avenues through which an individuals' labour input can be used to acquire stuff determines if the work is dignified or not.

Example: Prostitution is also labour but just because it is labour does not mean that it's dignified.

Example: If someone cannot own their labour by having the power to determine(with full discretion) where, when and how much energy to expend  and  also be the sole beneficiary of the rewards from energy input, then that labour is not dignified since the worker lacks autonomy. Any form of labour that is done under externally imposed set of rules and proceedures that determines, among things, when your labour is needed, how it must applied and how much it's worth, is not dignified. Ever wonder why christ, buddah, krishna and other moral authorities did not have bosses?

So There is an intervening variable between labour and dignity.

Don't just focus on the action of labour on its own; consider also the underlying social structure in which it is embedded
.

nezerst:

How do u define a LovePeddler?
WHETHER U R 4KING FOR LOVE OR FOR MONEY, THERE IS ALWAYS A GIVE N TAKE
TAKIING PLACE.
ME I FEEL SAY IF U WAN DO,MAKE U DO WETIN GO YIELD RESULT LIKE MONEY N DEGREE NO BE TO DE DO OSHOFRI COME DEY JUDGE PEPLE.
to people like you john smith asked " is the money you make worth the price you pay? everything has its price tag. you see the price nigeria is paying for the money at all cost madness we bought into in the 80's.

do you think the broken society is a prize worth paying. we pay for whatever we do.
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by GeorgeD1(m): 12:20pm On May 19, 2009
nezerst:

How do u define a LovePeddler?
WHETHER U R 4KING FOR LOVE OR FOR MONEY, THERE IS ALWAYS A GIVE N TAKE
TAKIING PLACE.
ME I FEEL SAY IF U WAN DO,MAKE U DO WETIN GO YIELD RESULT LIKE MONEY N DEGREE NO BE TO DE DO OSHOFRI COME DEY JUDGE PEPLE.

You mean you do it for money?
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by champredd(m): 5:47pm On May 19, 2009
People will always find excuses for what they are doing. What is good and what is bad never changes.
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by GeorgeD1(m): 6:38pm On May 19, 2009
good. i second that.
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by Lady2(f): 11:11pm On May 19, 2009
I'll take my dignity anyday. My university degree won't stand before God for me, but with my dignity I can.

Also I can marry a man with a univeristy degree.
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by GeorgeD1(m): 1:59pm On May 20, 2009
Sister, you're one in a million to choose dignity over degree. Most ladies will choose otherwise
especially in these morally impoverished country we live in. Congrats.
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by JJYOU: 11:14am On May 21, 2009
~Lady~:

I'll take my dignity anyday. My university degree won't stand before God for me, but with my dignity I can.

Also I can marry a man with a univeristy degree.
you are a star in my eyes. God bless you
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by GeorgeD1(m): 12:34pm On May 21, 2009
Yes, lady is a princess among millions. Bless her kiss
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by nezerst(f): 4:21pm On May 22, 2009
What is good n what is bad. I am d one who is going to pay for d consequences of my actions.
People always have there reasons for doin whatever(even though it doesnt make a wrong action righ). So dnt be so quick 2 judge.
@George, u no well. I no dey do anything oh.
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by lekside44(m): 10:22am On May 25, 2009
it is our country that is to be blamed. even many student who are brilliant and are not ready to succumm are victimised. so there should be a check and balance in our school systems
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by GeorgeD1(m): 10:48am On May 25, 2009
nezerst:

What is good n what is bad. I am d one who is going to pay for d consequences of my actions.
People always have there reasons for doin whatever(even though it doesnt make a wrong action righ). So dnt be so quick 2 judge.
@George, u no well. I no dey do anything oh.

Why you dey get guilty conscience now? I neva say you dey do anything o!
Na simple question I ask grin
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by Lillyane(f): 7:00am On Dec 16, 2017
lonelygem:
Many times, I crack my skull as to the genesis of the points most of our so called aristos (undergraduate prostitutes) make when they are caught in the act, some claim to go into prostitution to enable them secure their university degree, the question that bother ones mind is, 'what happen after the degree has been secured?' in due honesty, should a woman damn her dignity for the academic degrees? what about the future consequences, does Our country University degrees worth 'do or die'? what would you do as a woman if you find yourself in a financial instability in pursuance of your academic degrees? how would you advise the younger ones? should they let go their dignities for University degrees or the degrees for woman dignity.

women in the house, your response would be appreciated!
Email me @Lillyeneogwe@yahoo.com or you chat me up on fb(Linda Eneogwe)
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by lonelygem(m): 8:16am On Dec 17, 2017
Lillyane:
Email me @Lillyeneogwe@yahoo.com or you chat me up on fb(Linda Eneogwe)

I replied your mail immediately I got it. you may chat me up on Whatsapp 08062988830
Re: Women, What Is Your Priority? University Degrees Or Ur Dignity As A Woman by Lillyane(f): 7:44pm On Dec 17, 2017
lonelygem:


I replied your mail immediately I got it. you may chat me up on Whatsapp 08062988830
Sorry the email linked with my account is having problem

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