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| There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by Ioseph(m): 5:46pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
I am seeing people defend the most insane of muslims, the most dangerous of Islamists these days solely because they are Muslim. While I agree initially with the sentiment because many muslims have horrible treatment in some parts of the world, that does NOT mean that Islam must be devoid of ALL criticism towards it for fear of prejudice. In example, I recently saw people defending a salafi Imam on TV for his "muslim beliefs". WHAT!? Salafi Muslims are the Islamic equivalent of the Amish but worse! They're the kinds of people that have child marriages with four wives, murder non-muslims and join groups like ISIS! Why the hell would anyone defend this person? If they lived in the world that that Imam wanted, they'd be dead! I also keep seeing people defending the Burqa (and the hijab). The ONLY muslims who even wear the burqa are the goddamned extremists!!! You did not see a single Burqa (or hijab!) in Malaysia just a few decades ago. People NEVER wore hijabs in Turkey outside the redneck parts until very recently, and all the Muslims said that they were being "oppressed" for not being able to wear the veil. Well, guess what? Now that Turkey's government is Islamist, suddenly there are Muslims trying to bullying people into HAVING TO WEAR THE VEIL!! Who's being oppressed again!? Mormons are seen as madmen. Born again Christians, madmen. But Muslims are for some reason exempt? I have a friend who is a devout Sunni and it is the creepiest thing - he is very laid back and friendly and normal but as SOON as Islam is brought up he goes all fanatical and ultra-religious, like a switch hit in his brain and changed his personality to some Muslim Zealot. It is terrifying because that's the kind of thing that happens with cults, you know. The double standards many Muslims have to social situations is very suspicious. Being against religious discrimination when they are the minority but having extreme discrimination against non-muslims while they are the majority. Being against Burqa bans due to "oppression" while they are the minority, but outright enforcing the veil and other sexist laws upon women when they are the majority. Being in support of human rights (that benefit them) when they are the minority but then throwing them under the bus with their Shariah law when they are the majority. It all reeks of opportunism. I feel like people need to call out Islam for what it is - a backwards and fanatical religion which is intolerant and unflexible. 6 Likes |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by Ioseph(m): 6:03pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
Examples of bullshit in Islam: 1. The claim that Allah exists. There is no evidence to support the idea that Allah is real. Allah isn't real. 2. Saying the above will get you executed in 12 countries and thrown in prison in over 13. And that's if an angry mob doesn't kill you first. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-blasphemy-idUSKBN17F1ZL 3. The blatant and obvious sexism towards women. Islam makes rigid unbreakable rules for what jobs or professions women can and cannot do, regardless of their actual aptitude. It paints women as stupid. It characterises periods and menstruation, a natural occurrence, as the greatest evil. It bans women from being able to rule Muslim countries. It values a woman's opinion and worth as half that of a man's. It has HORRIFIC laws that justify rape and sex slavery, and demonise women who try to break away from Islamic social values. 4. The Quranic absurdities such as Mohammad splitting the Moon in half. This stuff is just blatantly false and anti-factual, as the overwhelming resources on historical records as well as basic science can attest to. Not much else to say here. 5. The cowardliness and underhandedness of Taqqiyah, the act of lying in a Muslim-minority or hostile environment about one's beliefs in order to blend in. This is absolutely terrifying as it contains a detailed set of rules for LYING to non-muslims in order to avert their eyes to Muslim beliefs. This includes lying by omission (telling only 80% of the truth, not the whole truth), outright lying, falsification, blaspheming in order to fit in better with non-muslims, faux acts of friendliness and camaraderie etc. If you have not noticed yet, Islam is an extremely manipulative religion. 6. The absurdly contradictory moral code. Islam supports modesty and attacks indecency, yet the "vulgar and depraved" Western world has far less "indecency" compared with Muslim nations, from sexual harassment to Porn searches. The statistics speak for themselves. More to be added soon 2 Likes |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by Ioseph(m): 6:24pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
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| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by iamgenius(m): 7:40pm On Nov 19, 2017 |
Ioseph: Sura 9 - Ayat 32 Allah Says::: "They wish to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will not agree except that He will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers get annoyed." 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by mujahid777(m): 12:46am On Nov 20, 2017 |
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| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by LoudNdclear: 4:47pm On Nov 20, 2017 |
Bro take it easy..... cool your temper, leave them to believe whatever they want...... Even if you talk now till next year, they will still not listen, they’ve been threatened who leaves will be stab to death. And the funny part is majority of them either born into Islam or forced into it..... they were not given freedom to choose. Just leave them...... |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by lagostokd: 12:01pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
Telling the truth about Islam might expose you to harsh responses I'll recommend this book 'The Complete Infidel's Guide to Koran' https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Infidels-Guide-Koran/dp/1596981040 |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by resurgentxtian4: 12:41pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
The fact is that Muslims are terrorists and can only be resisted with brute force. We should learn a thing or two from the state of Israel which has been able to defend herself from muslim terrorist nations in the Middle East for decades. Christians in Nigeria have a lot of work to do to maintain the secularity of the nation else we would be islamised! 1 Like |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by iamgenius(m): 12:46pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
resurgentxtian4:You just saying what you are being spoonfed. |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by mujahid777(m): 12:48pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
resurgentxtian4:See this criminal of an igboid pig! |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by resurgentxtian4: 12:53pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
mujahid777: Omo Yoruba ni mi sir. Eyin imale fe bayeje pelu jagijagan ti en fi’n wu iwa l’agbaye. Emi o korera yin o sugbon mo mope ija ati aso ni eyin imale feran. The whole world is on red alert because of Muslims. Any society that relaxes with a sizable Muslim population is bound to be overcome by Islamic violence and terrorism. 4 Likes |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by mujahid777(m): 12:57pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
lagostokd:Maybe you expect everyone to accept it as 'telling the truth' because it's in a book written by an islamophobe. |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by dorox(m): 12:57pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
This is a great video that explains one of the stock defense of Islamic apologists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpXLdJyhsgk |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by mujahid777(m): 1:05pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
resurgentxtian4:I guess the very much sizable population of your fellow Yoruba Muslims have also overcome yoruba land with 'Islamic violence and terrorism'.igboid pig! |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by resurgentxtian4: 1:09pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
mujahid777: Emi o’se Omo Igbo. Omoluabi ponbele ni mi. What have you done about prof Akintola of MURIC who wants to tear we yorubas apart due to fundamentalist Islamic sentiments? 2 Likes |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by enilove(m): 1:28pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
resurgentxtian4: God bless the OP, God bless you too. The truth shall prevail. These Muslims know the truth that the origin of their religion is violence and presently violent . They can lie in a way that would make the dead to rise with anger condemn them and then go . On Fridays at Agege , they will block the main road meant for every one in the name of religion , is that not lawlessnes and lack of respect for other road users? This hijab of a thing is insane to defend.It is lawlessness of the highest order. The members would only desist if when an innocent soul is killed you kill double of their members in retaliations , that us when they will seek peace. 3 Likes |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by resurgentxtian4: 1:47pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
enilove: If you have money, emigrate with your family. |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by enilove(m): 1:53pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
resurgentxtian4: I have money . God did not make mistake by creating me to be living in Nigeria. It is only the foolish ones that would leave their land of birth because of wars . When the war starts we will see who will emigrate. 1 Like |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by resurgentxtian4: 2:00pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
enilove: Are you ready to fight a war with Muslims? |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by enilove(m): 2:14pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
resurgentxtian4:Are the Muslims ready to fight war with the Christians ? 1 Like |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by resurgentxtian4: 2:23pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
enilove: I only know few educated Muslims in yorubaland.Most of them are touts who have nothing to lose in a war situation. You can see them supporting the present Government because its policies have not really changed their circumstance in life. They are the touts, market women, mechanics and all what not so you get what I mean. We Christians must weigh the cost of the war if we were to embark on it. It is not impossible to do we only have to get our leaders to support us. All we are asking is a fair country that is properly restructured to cater to our individual differences and aspirations as a people. On the whole, Christians must prepare very well if we want to maintain the secularity of the nation. The muslims are not child’s play. They are crude and primitive and we must be vicious to nip their excesses in the bud. They hate Fayose because he’s decisive and firm against Islamic terror. We Christians must be firm too if we want to curtail them. 2 Likes |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by enilove(m): 2:41pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
resurgentxtian4: Wars are fought on two levels. The spiritual and the physical. It is the winner of the spiritual war that always wins the physical wars. This religious war started long time when Nigeria joined the Islamic nations. But with prayers we will win. We may not need to go into any war if God wants it that way. God can decide that their weapons bought to destroy others shall be used to destroy the buyer. Wars go beyond the touts. Millions of touts can be destroyed within minutes . We need to be prayerful and we shall win come what may. 2 Likes |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by Maamin(m): 2:49pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
They gradually encroach into your territory and space, pretend to be friendly, mingle and take what is yours, deface and make it theirs then turn it right back at you by condemning yours to be fake and no longer original while trying to force theirs on you and if you try to oppose and question them they get all violent and angry to attack and maim you. They will call you names like Kafir/infidel/unbeliever etc. These are fanatical and extremist Muslims for you  Advice :- beware of them 2 Likes |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by enilove(m): 3:10pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
Maamin: Thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. We have known the truth . Part of their tactics was to say " we serve the same God" ,to make you lower your guide . Muhammed used that against the Jews back then. He started by saying we serve the same God and there is no compulsion in religion , but latter began calling us idol worshippers and said idol worshippers should be enforced to accept Islam or be killed. They practice Taqiyyah a lot. They see it as wisdom. They know in their heart that their religion is a religion opposite of peace but they shamelesly say its a religion of peace as if other people are blind and deaf to all their evils, present and past. 2 Likes |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by lagostokd: 4:16pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
mujahid777: You think sane people are still fooled by the coined word 'Islamaphobia'? If exposing and rejecting the evil in Islam makes one Islamaphobic, then every freedom loving sane individual need to be Islamophobes rather than being Islamopanderers like Pope Francis, Theresa May, Barack Obama, and other European politicians that openly support radical Muslims over their own citizens. Meanwhile, Islamophobia is a word coined by fascists, used by cowards to manipulate the morons 2 Likes |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by lagostokd: 4:27pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
resurgentxtian4: The sane countries in Europe presently are just Poland and Czech Republic. The major parts of Europe are ruled by Islamopanderers who opened their borders widely for ISIS in the name of refugees. Major parts of Europe are now shadows of what they used to be - Muslims have more right than even the citizens because of their useful idiot leaders. Canada is another case, though a bit better. Islam is a global threat not only in Nigeria but across major cities of the world. You don't need to emigrate. Stand your ground and know everything about the evil so that non of them can bamboozle you 1 Like |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by Maamin(m): 4:34pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
enilove: May God continue to strengthen us to stand for the truth. 2 Likes |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by AgentOfAllah: 5:01pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
Ioseph:OP, I want to understand the cause of your indignation. What exactly was this Imam being defended from? I also keep seeing people defending the Burqa (and the hijab).Again, what is the Burqa (and the hijab) being defended from? The ONLY muslims who even wear the burqa are the goddamned extremists!!!No, OP, you're wrong. There are also people who wear the Burqa because they fear for their lives, or because they fear being ostracised by society. Be careful about binarising the impulses that guide religious practices. They are typically more nuanced than superficial observations can reveal! Now that Turkey's government is Islamist, suddenly there are Muslims trying to bullying people into HAVING TO WEAR THE VEIL!! Who's being oppressed again!?Yes, there are many Muslims who bully people into dressing in certain ways, including wearing Burqas and hijabs. These are no more dangerous and extreme than non-Muslims trying to bully people into not wearing burqa and hijab. I hope we are all capable of forging a society in which people just accept the multiplicity of life's flavours and expressions. Mormons are seen as madmen. Born again Christians, madmen. But Muslims are for some reason exempt? I have a friend who is a devout Sunni and it is the creepiest thing - he is very laid back and friendly and normal but as SOON as Islam is brought up he goes all fanatical and ultra-religious, like a switch hit in his brain and changed his personality to some Muslim Zealot. It is terrifying because that's the kind of thing that happens with cults, you know.Religion is like a virus that occupies the same conceptual space as the practitioner's ego. Touch it and you might bruise their ego. From experience, a wounded ego induces irrational reactions out of a desperate need to salvage what's left of itself. I just think it is generally better and more potent to ask questions of them than to prescribe answers. That way, you entirely sidestep the inconvenience of having to directly tell people that they are wrong, while also allowing them to reconcile their cognitive dissonances by their own means. The double standards many Muslims have to social situations is very suspicious. Being against religious discrimination when they are the minority but having extreme discrimination against non-muslims while they are the majority. Being against Burqa bans due to "oppression" while they are the minority, but outright enforcing the veil and other sexist laws upon women when they are the majority. Being in support of human rights (that benefit them) when they are the minority but then throwing them under the bus with their Shariah law when they are the majority. It all reeks of opportunism.As far as burqa is concerned, I don't think there is any Muslim majority country that enforces it. There is still, at least, one Muslim majority country (Iran) that enforces the hijab. Saudi enforces the Abaya, but not the hijab, and many other undemocratic Muslim countries enforce one form of strict dress code or another. The problem here isn't really what is being enforced, but the fact that the state thinks it part of its responsibility to enforce any sort of dress code. However, let's not lose track of the underlying enabling factor here, because it is not so much Islam as it is minority rule. There is literally no democratic country with Muslim majority where such rules exist. This fact reveals a more nuanced picture of Islam, one that sketches it is not as a monolith, but as a religion just as diverse in its expressions as any other. There are three groups of people who are likely to see Islam as a monolith; the Islamic terrorists and Islamophobes and those who are completely apathetic towards it. Of these, the former two are equally as dangerous in that they desperately need it to be monolithic. I feel like people need to call out Islam for what it is - a backwards and fanatical religion which is intolerant and unflexible.Islam is a backward religion, no doubt...like all other religions are! Likewise, fanaticism is a violent strain of belief shared amongst all religions in equally proportions. Let's make it even more general: Any philosophy that packages with it, the false sense of group exceptionalism is a fast track to fanaticism. |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by lagostokd: 5:32pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah: Why will you place Islamic terrorists in the same category with Islamophobes? Putting evil in the same category with light is demonic. An Islamophobe is a sane person that exposes the danger of Islam and its evil teachings. In fact, every freedom lover should be an Islamophobe. Islam is a backward religion, no doubt...like all other religions are! Likewise, fanaticism is a violent strain of belief shared amongst all religions in equally proportions. Let's make it even more general: Any philosophy that packages with it, the false sense of group exceptionalism is a fast track to fanaticism. Indeed, Islam is a backward religion but it is demonic to say all religions are backward. Let's use Nigeria as an example. A major part of Nigeria's North has been exposed to and influenced by Islam for more than 300 years likewise a major part of the country's south influenced by Christian missionaries more than 150 years ago. The Christian missionaries built systems, schools, hospitals, and set the country's South on the path of unprecedented development and freedom whereas, Islam in the North produced Almajiris and extremely poor masses which further restated your earlier post that Islam is a backward religion 2 Likes |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by AgentOfAllah: 3:57am On Dec 21, 2017 |
lagostokd: Islamophobia: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against Islam or people who practice Islam I do not see how "irrationality" and "sanity" can describe the same thing. Indeed, Islam is a backward religion but it is demonic to say all religions are backward. Let's use Nigeria as an example. A major part of Nigeria's North has been exposed to and influenced by Islam for more than 300 years likewise a major part of the country's south influenced by Christian missionaries more than 150 years ago.Lol@ "Unprecedented development and freedom". I don't even know how to start and end this response. I am not sure you know the meanings of unprecedented, development or even freedom. People kissing the chair of their daddy GO is unprecedented development and freedom. People squandering 10% of their hard earned incomes on pastor's motley assortments of expensive cars, shoes and private jets is unprecedented development too. Christian missionaries brainwashing populations, decimating cultures, languages and traditions and paving the way for colonialists to loot our resources. Definitely unprecedented development and freedom! Using the church's instruments to justify the barbaric practice of racial slavery when it was in vogue, Convincing millions of Catholics that condoms are a sin, Convincing many believers against all evidence that the world is just thousands of years old. Mega churches capitalising on the moral bankruptcy that pervades the country. If there's unprecedented development and freedom in the south, I haven't seen it. The north is in shambles, no doubt, but when it becomes your yardstick for measuring development and freedom your problems are unprecedented. |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by lagostokd: 4:44pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah: The word 'Islamophobia' was invented by Iranian fundamentalists in 1970s in analogy to Xenophobia. The aim of the word is to declare Islam inviolate. It is strictly used to intimidate critics of jihad and Islamic supremacism into silence. Only the ignorant can be bamboozled by your fascist propaganda word 'Islamophobia' Every sane person knows that it is more enjoyable to live in countries/regions/cities with Christian values than that with Islamic values. |
| Re: There Is Too Much Tolerance Of Muslim Beliefs by AgentOfAllah: 10:00am On Jan 01, 2018 |
lagostokd:If that's the aim of the word, it clearly hasn't worked on me. Nevertheless, I also understand the difference between critiquing dubious claims, and habouring irrational fear for people who promulgate such claims. They are not to be feared or hated. They are to be debated. Every sane person knows that it is more enjoyable to live in countries/regions/cities with Christian values than that with Islamic values.To make such a sweeping statement, you either must have a monopoly on the definition of "sane" or, otherwise, that of "enjoyable". Since, at least, one of those definitions is subjective, I call bullshit on your claim. |
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