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Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Agritech(m): 11:45am On Dec 26, 2017 |
Aleis:Are you saying Joseph didn't do anything? |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by ezugegere(m): 11:46am On Dec 26, 2017 |
If she had other children, would it have been possible for Jesus to hand her over to one of his apostles while on the cross? |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by LaaJiblik: 11:46am On Dec 26, 2017 |
Syncan: Did Joseph have sex with Mary AFTER the Birth of Jesus Christ? 1 Like |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 11:47am On Dec 26, 2017 |
makoota: The reason is clear. At John 7:5, at the time of Jesus' death none of his half brothers were believers. It was after his death that they became Christians. Acts 1:14 His disciple John was the closest friend of Jesus. Joseph his foster father had died before Jesus was killed hence before his death he handed Mary his mother to his best friend. Mary had other children after Jesus including females. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Investnow2017: 11:49am On Dec 26, 2017 |
LaaJiblik: Sex is a means of procreation by humans put in place by God. Joseph had other children by Mary, male and female. Mark 6:3. 1 Like |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Syncan(m): 11:51am On Dec 26, 2017 |
VIPERVENOM: In all these, you haven't mention a single place scripture called them Mary's children, rather it calls them "brothers of Jesus" and we know how we use the term brothers even in our won parlance. Yet scripture was very careful to tell you who the mother of those people was when it said. "There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome".Mk15:40 And who is this Mary mother of James and Joses? St. John says: "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene". john19:25 3 Likes |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Newmanluckyman(m): 11:52am On Dec 26, 2017 |
...though it wasn't explicitly explained. But I want to make a distinction here. We have seen some people referring someone as their brothers or sisters. But when you asked them deeply if it's their blood brother or sister they will say :" no s/he is my village person or my family friend or my cousin etc". So there's a clear difference between a blood brother and a 'brother'.Maybe this analogy can help us to understand the case of Virgin Mary, Jesus and his other 'brothers' |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by WOruGunu(m): 11:52am On Dec 26, 2017 |
The issue of brothers of Jesus came from the inability of the Jews not being able to differentiate between brothers,cousin and step brothers. But the Roman Catholic where able to go deep down the history and culture lane of the Jews were they found out that those being called the brothers of Jesus were actually is cousins, as there was no name to for cousin in Hebrew back then. So Jesus had cousin brothers only. 1 Like |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Blessgj(f): 11:52am On Dec 26, 2017 |
yes,John 7:3-10 |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by CayanaJnr: 11:53am On Dec 26, 2017 |
New International Version "Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? New Living Translation Then they scoffed, "He's just the carpenter's son, and we know Mary, his mother, and his brothers--James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas. English Standard Version Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary? And are not his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? Berean Study Bible "Is this not the carpenter's son? Isn't His mother's name Mary, and aren't His brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas? Berean Literal Bible Is this not the son of the carpenter? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? New American Standard Bible "Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? King James Bible Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? Holman Christian Standard Bible Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't His mother called Mary, and His brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas? International Standard Version This is the builder's son, isn't it? His mother is named Mary, isn't she? His brothers are James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas, aren't they? NET Bible Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother named Mary? And aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas? New Heart English Bible Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? Aramaic Bible in Plain English “Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Maryam, and his brothers, Yaqob and Yose and Shimeon and Yehudah?” GOD'S WORD® Translation Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary? Aren't his brothers' names James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas? New American Standard 1977 “Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? Jubilee Bible 2000 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? King James 2000 Bible Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brothers, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? American King James Version Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brothers, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? American Standard Version Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas? Douay-Rheims Bible Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brethren James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Jude: Darby Bible Translation Is not this the son of the carpenter? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brethren James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas? English Revised Version Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas? Webster's Bible Translation Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? Weymouth New Testament Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? And are not his brothers, James, Joseph, Simon and Judah? World English Bible Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother called Mary, and his brothers, James, Joses, Simon, and Judas? Young's Literal Translation is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary, and his brethren James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? Thank me Later. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by CayanaJnr: 11:54am On Dec 26, 2017 |
This can be found on Matthew 13:55 CayanaJnr: |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Syncan(m): 11:55am On Dec 26, 2017 |
LaaJiblik: Scripture never said he did. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Nobody: 11:56am On Dec 26, 2017 |
valentineuwakwe: Yes she did. I am Catholic by the way. See the proof from Bible.org below: https://bible.org/question/did-mary-have-any-children-other-jesus-if-so-how-can-she-be-eternal-virgin |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Vikky014(f): 11:57am On Dec 26, 2017 |
brainpulse:you won't blame them they are catholics. 1 Like |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by cyrilamx(m): 11:58am On Dec 26, 2017 |
ezenwajosh:then how can someone who didn't consort with a man nor had any contact with a man's semen conceive? if God can make Mary conceive without the interference of a man then why can't u reason also he can make the hymen of d woman remain intact during n after birth? truth is most of u pentecostals ain't knowledgeable in the language of the Jews of Jesus' time-- Aramaic. go and Google the Church fathers' view about Mary's perpetual virginity. the perpetual virginity of Mary predates the canonicity of the new testament...even the Protestant reformers like Martin Luther and John Calvin believe this sacred truth... 1 Like |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by felixomor: 11:58am On Dec 26, 2017 |
LaaJiblik: Dont mind him. Cc:Adetayo234 |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Nauttyprof(m): 11:59am On Dec 26, 2017 |
Syncan: There isn't any connection with the other Bible verses quoted. If the Bible were referring to Mary's Sister, then the 4 male children would have been mentioned and not just two. Besides, the James they referred to was James the younger. This is my own position on this as we speak only where the Bible speaks and be silent where the Bible says nothing. 1 Like |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by LaaJiblik: 11:59am On Dec 26, 2017 |
Syncan: Let’s Assume (while not conceding) that those were his cousins, not Mary’s children. Question is: Did Joseph have Sex with Mary AFTER the Birth of her first child? 1 Like |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by iykomo0(m): 12:02pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Justicealh3:shut the F*ck up... Terrorist not allowed here |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by VIPERVENOM(m): 12:03pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Syncan: James the less was a disciple of Jesus and i neva mentioned Joses as a brother of Jesus. Like i said earlier The last three mentioned are not to be confused with those who were disciples of Jesus by the same name |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by felixomor: 12:03pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
WOruGunu: Pls show us the bus they used to travel "deep down" Which means maybe Peter and Andrew were not brothers also. The sons of Zebedee were not brothers Etc etc Na wa for, Jews dont differentiate brothers 2 Likes |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Syncan(m): 12:04pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
victorakpabome: Sorry o, She didn't. This your link na trash. Na ignorance de worry the people. Just this is enough to tell you who gave birth to the "brothers of Jesus". "There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome".Mk15:40 And who is this Mary mother of James and Joses? St. John says: "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene". john19:25 |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Senigentle(m): 12:05pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Justicealh3: Slave u are and slave shall u remain....But to us, Jesus refers to us as His friend and as Sons of God, co-heirs of God's kingdom |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by BabbanBura(m): 12:10pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
felixomor: Three actually - John, James (aka Joses) and Jude |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by jdleo32(m): 12:12pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Mary had no biological child of hers even jesus was a mystery to mankind. She remained a virgin til death. Those you heard mentioned were jesus cousins but due to translation of the Bible and time this has been misunderstood. Most of the Bible quotations were written in Idiom as at then this have led to lots of scholars rewriting the Bible over and over again to make people understand. And not all that happened those day was covered in the Bible. You can take ur time to research the truth through other means don't wait for ur pastor to tell u what he believes. Jesus remains the only child of MARY. And Joseph never consummated that marriage. Therefore she remained a virgin all her life. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Syncan(m): 12:14pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Nauttyprof: hahahaha, now you want scripture to mention the four, when scripture already mentioned them in an earlier verse, so each time scripture mentions them it should call the four right, You should tell that to Jude who was mentioned as one of them, but decided to say thus :Jude 1:1 Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James. Tell Jude to mention others too na. Note he called himself servant of Jesus, but brother of James. Same James whose brothers are also Simon and Joses, and whose mother is the wife of cleopas and not Joseph. MK.15:40, Jn19:25 1 Like |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Fourwinds: 12:15pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Justicealh3:who asked you for this ![]()
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Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by stanley095(m): 12:15pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: Really |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by tzjaynee: 12:15pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Karlovich: Your brain deserves to be formatted |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Nobody: 12:16pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Syncan: You sure? Anyway I don't read the Bible often, so you might be right. |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by Syncan(m): 12:17pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
VIPERVENOM: Oga, no de lie na, I quoted your post o. Go and Check Mk.6:3 you quoted to see Joses there, abi you don't read your copy and paste? 1 Like |
Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by ensign(m): 12:18pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
My brethren in christ, all of the references sighted in the answers referred to those people as the Lord's brethren just like you are my brethren even without any blood relation. The only tool of confusion here is the English Language. Please dont be deceived, The blessed Virgin Mary is not a prostitute and Joseph isnt a womanizer. If a fellow agrees that his wife would conceive through the Holy spirit, will thesame fellow not be willing to let her remain a virgin forever. Lets not forget that Joseph had been willing to send Mary away secretly just to cover her from shame but for the dream revelation. If you get to heaven, you will know that the issue of consumating marriage or not is not as important as we have taken it in our present day world. For further knowledge on this, you may read "The Lost Books of the Bible". But until then lets us keep watching and praying until the arrival of the bridegroom. May he meet us as the 10 wise virgins.(AMEN) |
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