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Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by biggerboyc(m): 12:49pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Ok |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by johnydon22(m): 12:50pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
CandidSeeker: Good then... Affirms point 2 Likes |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by johnydon22(m): 12:51pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality: Actually agnosticism is atheistic in a broad sense. 1 Like |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by hopefulLandlord: 12:54pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality:it depends on how you define each term |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by Sapiosexuality(m): 12:55pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
johnydon22:That's bullshit. That's like saying Pantheism is Monotheism in a broad sense. 3 Likes |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by johnydon22(m): 12:56pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
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Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by Sapiosexuality(m): 12:57pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:How YOU define the terms and not the universal acceptance and understanding of both terms? Even if I understand one as the belief in God and the other as Deism? 1 Like |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by johnydon22(m): 12:59pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality: For someone to be agnostic, it's already obvious such a person doesn't really believe in God... So by default (absence of belief) an agnostic is in fact atheistic |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by hopefulLandlord: 1:00pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality: I said it depends on your own definition of both terms what do you mean when you say "Atheism" and what does the word "Agnosticism" mean to you? could you tell us the "Universal acceptance" of those terms? 1 Like |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by bkool7(m): 1:01pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
If a religion does not have a central figure of supernatural/superhuman powers, but is a system of rules, obligations or adviceā¦this is more correctly called a philosophy. 2 Likes |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by Sapiosexuality(m): 1:01pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Does this apply to every other definition or just to the definitions of Atheism and Agnosticism? 2 Likes |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by johnydon22(m): 1:02pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
NothingDoMe: I totally agree. I think i was just trying to chip in a dose of humor, sarcasm perhaps. I know none of these arguments really would end, people'd still bring them up in 2018 1 Like |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by johnydon22(m): 1:03pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality: Just define "atheism" and "agnosticism" |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by Nobody: 1:03pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
You are either a free thinker or you are a religious person. I choose to be religious. 2 Likes |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by Geofavor(m): 1:04pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
johnydon22:Buddhism is Theistic. They call their God Buddha. |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by Fegelfire: 1:04pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
mujahid777: It's not an irrational viewpoint actually, Mr. "Mujahid 777". There is literally nothing that presupposes that the universe needed a "cause" to exist - indeed, current theories in debate amongst well established cosmological scientists with PhDs (not Imams with a Quran lodged in their skulls) include the possibility that there IS no end and beginning to space-time, and that the creation of our current universe came from the collapse of a previous universe (Google: Big Bounce). There is absolutely nothing to suggest that it was the work of a sentient creator being and absolutely and it's pretty much impossible for hypothetical creator being to be the god of the Quran from a rudimentary glance at anthropology and human history. You are trying to apply hand-eye coordination hands-on rationality to the beginning of the fucking universe, and then postulate that a magic superbeing exists to compliment your preconceived theistic conclusions. That in itself is inherently irrational. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by hopefulLandlord: 1:04pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality:Definitions apply into many things too but even moreso when one is discussing what one thinks are mutually exclusive |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by NothingDoMe: 1:05pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
johnydon22: ![]() |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by johnydon22(m): 1:05pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Purebeerry: Good for you. I choose to be free 6 Likes |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by ivolt: 1:06pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
mujahid777:Since atheist are humans, they can adopt whatever human morality that is available. Same way theism has no concept of morality What is it with theists and fallacious argument? will you drop dead if you try to be rational for once? Atheism position is that god/gods doesn't exist, it is a rational position that has nothing to do with the universe's existence or beginning. An irrational position is believing that your god created the universe because he must exist, an even more irrational position is that this particular god is the one that was invented in the middle-east. Why will any rational person believe such fairy tale? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by hopefulLandlord: 1:06pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Geofavor: nope Buddhism rejects the notion of a creator deity https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creator_in_Buddhism 3 Likes |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by Sapiosexuality(m): 1:06pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
johnydon22:Google. Atheism: Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities. Agnosticism: Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God , of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable. Now Define Agnosticism Atheism? |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by johnydon22(m): 1:09pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Geofavor: Nope, Buddha is not God in buddhism. Buddha simply means a state of enlightenment, perfect intelligence or ethical precision. 1 Like |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by Geofavor(m): 1:09pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
johnydon22:How? I disagree. Agnosticism is the bridge between Theism and Atheism. |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by Sapiosexuality(m): 1:09pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:You didn't answer my question. Does this mutual exclusivity define anything? If what I think about Christianity in a discussion is the worship of Muhammad and Allah, what then? Am I good enough to be engaged? |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by johnydon22(m): 1:09pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Geofavor: Does an agnostic belief in God? |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by Fegelfire: 1:10pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Geofavor: Are you... mentally challenged? Do you not know how to google something or borrow an encyclopaedia from a local library? ![]() Gautama Buddha was a man who lived in Eastern India around 2600 years ago, 600 years before Jesus and 1200 years before Mohammad. He did not claim to be the "son of god", nor did he claim to be a prophet. He merely began taught a practice and way of life that drew a compromise between the cruelty of Vedic practices (etc. caste systems) and the asceticism of East India (fasting, self-destruction, etc.). Some Buddhists do believe in spirits and other such stuff, yes. But to call Buddhism "theistic" and that they see Gautama as "God" is straight nonsense. 2 Likes |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by sirfee(m): 1:10pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
johnydon22: Can you back up the bolded statement,what do you have to say about deism. |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by johnydon22(m): 1:11pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality: using same Google. Agnostic atheism is a philosophical position that encompasses both atheism and agnosticism. Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact. |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by Nobody: 1:12pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
johnydon22:Whatever that rocks your boat. |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by MrMystrO(m): 1:12pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Sapiosexuality: Lol funny enough, it is. |
Re: Ridiculous Arguments That Must End In 2017 by johnydon22(m): 1:12pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
sirfee: There are atheistic religions, or even the practice of conventional religions without the belief in God. Example Christian atheism
An example of belief in a God without religion |
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