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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:09pm On Dec 26, 2017
OMANBALA1:



I am not trying to compare goalkeepers here ,rather I want to assert that Dosu is not a goalkeeper to brag about or be proud of. Dude is worst goalkeeper I have ever seen kept goal for Nigeria.
I have never seen this Dosu guy play, but I would like to tank this particular idea because there is NO goalie, at all, in the history of Nigeria, that is worse than Agbim was for us
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 8:11pm On Dec 26, 2017
Humility017:

I think it is high time....musa and nancho leave that club to get playing time elsewhere....
the problem I have wit musa...is that he is not even ambitious...he don't even care if he stick to the bench....or even confirned to the under 23.....

I hate it when people are so comfortable.....
it is high time they make a move..

I feel Musa has become lukewarm because he believes there is already a permanent spot on the team for him

Who can blame him? He keeps getting called up despite hardly ever starting

This should stop. This guy isn't playing regularly.

It's either he goes out on loan or seeks a permanent transfer. There should be no room on the team for bench warmers

He is the only selection Rohr keeps making that I usually don't agree with (including Dan Akpeyi)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:17pm On Dec 26, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I’ll say what I thought happened. Sunday Oliseh was very influential in the team and Bonfrere had a lot of respect for him. Oliseh is like a brother to Dosu; Dosu was influential in making Julius Berger sign Oliseh before he moved to Europe. At the time, Dosu was to sign for Reggiana and what stopped him was a national cap. Everybody in the team was very good. So, when Oliseh tried to influence Bonfrere (to use Dosu), it was easy because whoever was in goal, would do well. Before our first match, Bonfrere called me to his room; Musa Abdullahi and Willy Bazuaye were there.

You can enquire from them what I am about to tell you. This is what he told me and I quote, “Due to reasons best known to me, I’ll prefer to use Dosu. I don’t owe any player for inclusion and exclusion from the team.” He said he owed me that much because I was mentally and physically prepared. I felt slighted as a young man and I asked him, “If performance is criteria for being in the first team, have I failed in this regard?” He said, “No.”

I am not going to lie to you, I started insulting him. I told him to go to hell. Tijani Babangida got wind of what happened and he said it was for team interest. He was privy to what was happening. I called Dosu to my room and told him, “I want you to know that I will never hate you and undermine you in any way. I want you to know that I am human but my anger won’t be directed at you but Bonfrere. If I were in your shoes, I will take the chance too but I have everything against the coach.” He was okay with my explanation and we sat together after every game to analyse his performance. He told me to help him out in areas of improvement.

After the Olympics, Sani Toro told me that Bonfrere told him that I was the best keeper but he kept me out because I was not disciplined. There are no hard feelings. I did what I did because of what I was at the time. If it was now, I wouldn’t have reacted the way I did then. I use these experiences to train my players now.

http://www.punchng.com/sports/sportlight/oliseh-made-bonfrere-drop-me-for-dosu-at-atlanta-96-babayaro/


Corruption everywhere.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 8:18pm On Dec 26, 2017
safarigirl:
this is such a silly thing to say. Sometimes, people on this thread make some comments that make you want to insult them.

What kind of rubbish talk is that? So, it was only that friendly Kelechi scored in? He doesn't have 8 goals in 14 games for Nigeria? You wiped that from you memory to make some useless point?


And it is me that is taking things personal

Like I said, please, do not watch any of our games during the World Cup because Kelechi is on our team, in that period, you can occupy yourself watching YouTube highlights of Martins games in China since you want to see Martins play so badly.

Internet coach....you love Nacho indeed
Unfortunately you are the one making immature silly comments for reasons best known to you
So cuz the guy scored 1million goals b4 he should be included in the team even if he's warming bench and fans stand every week? How sensible is this thought of yours? I will not insult you but seem you very saucy and uncultured for all the nonsense you said up there.
Some people will lose out on WC and Nacho is on that path except he works harder in his club or move out on loan for game time.
Please I did not make my comments so you can say rubbish to me if you are not happy about my opinion please skip it and never insult me in your life! angry
I will not say anything further to you on this matter angry

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 8:18pm On Dec 26, 2017
safarigirl:
I have never seen this Dosu guy play, but I would like to tank this particular idea because there is NO goalie, at all, in the history of Nigeria, that is worse than Agbim was for us
mehn, that guy was an insult to almost 200million Nigerians and throws a lot of credibility issue to whoever was our goalkeeping coach then, where is the guy sef? I've not heard anything about him in a long while
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 8:18pm On Dec 26, 2017
jihday:
I disagree, till the early noughties Julius Berger was one of the best teams in the land

Julius berger has never been one of the best teams in Nigeria. 2 leagus trophies 1991 and 2000, first round and group stage appearance in caf champions league is not a feat to revel about.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:21pm On Dec 26, 2017
oloriooko:

Unfortunately you are the one making immature silly comments for reasons best known to you
So cuz the guy scored 1million goals b4 he should be included in the team even if he's warming bench and fans stand every week? How sensible is this thought of yours? I will not insult you but seem you very saucy and uncultured for all the nonsense you said up there.
Some people will lose out on WC and Nacho is on that path except he works harder in his club or move out on loan for game time.
Please I did not make my comments so you can say rubbish to me if you are not happy about my opinion please skip it and never insult me in your life! angry
I will not say anything further to you on this matter angry
it is because of this kind of reasoning that you are an internet coach .


Go and drag Kelechi out of the plane to Russia when he enters, you hear?

Nonsense!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 8:23pm On Dec 26, 2017
oloriooko:

Unfortunately you are the one making immature silly comments for reasons best known to you
So cuz the guy scored 1million goals b4 he should be included in the team even if he's warming bench and fans stand every week? How sensible is this thought of yours? I will not insult you but seem you very saucy and uncultured for all the nonsense you said up there.
Some people will lose out on WC and Nacho is on that path except he works harder in his club or move out on loan for game time.
Please I did not make my comments so you can say rubbish to me if you are not happy about my opinion please skip it and never insult me in your life! angry
I will not say anything further to you on this matter angry
I'll disagree with this your analogy, Klose was neither a starter nor tearing the net in the run up to the 2014 World Cup, but he still attended anyway because he's been part of the setup and one of the coach's most trusted players

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by rabzy: 8:23pm On Dec 26, 2017
Icon4s:


Ordinary Golden Eaglets will be playing and the nation will sit still.

You need to see the thunderous jubilations when Nigeria beat Brazil in 1996. Never seen anything like it since then. An Olympic game match o. Not even the World Cup


those were crazy days. i remember we constructed a coffin for brazil and carried it all the way from okooba abbatoir to channels television singing and dancing. All the area boys from total and pen cinema follow us do the craze.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 8:25pm On Dec 26, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Julius berger has never been one of the best teams in Nigeria. 2 leagus trophies 1991 and 2000, first round and group stage appearance in caf champions league is not a feat to revel about.
late nineties to 2000-2001 I think they were part of the top teams in the land
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:26pm On Dec 26, 2017
Icon4s:


Abegi, I know that is why you have been placing emphasis on Eguavoen versus Holland.

How many games did Jerome Shakponke play before then that you have concluded he was better than Mobi. It was just the friendly against Jamaica. A very easy game that we even drew 2-2. Jerome had a good game but every certified coach knows you don't throw away your regular player due to a single performance of a new player. Jamaica, Yugoslavia and Holland, were they on the same level?

Continue holding on to real regular.
They will keep embarrassing if the are not up there in quality.

Screen and select the best. Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 8:28pm On Dec 26, 2017
jihday:
I'll disagree with this your analogy, Klose was neither a starter nor tearing the net in the run up to the 2014 World Cup, but he still attended anyway because he's been part of the setup and one of the coach's most trusted players
Nacho is still young can you compare him to Klose of years of experience?
He needs game time for mental and physical ability he cannot dwell on past glory he's gradually sliding down and some newbies on this thread think irrespective of his present form he should be handed a shirt cuz he scored a million goals b4 now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:28pm On Dec 26, 2017
chidi1:
I posted this elsewhere. But since I am looking for a response, I copied and pasted it here....

I may sound a little biased. However, I am an avid supporter of Imoh Ezekiel. In my earlier post, I voiced my concern when I taught he was going to be excluded from the Olympic team by Siasia, after a convincing display during a friendly with Brazil. Ofcourse, he undoubtedly became our most creative playmaker at the Olympics. I watched with dismay as he was overlooked during the world cup qualifiers. Hence, this promoted the creation of this topic.

Guys, I would love your honest opinion on this. What do you think of Victor Moses and Imoh Ezekiel combination on the wings during the world cup. You may rewatch his highlight during the Olympics on YouTube to refresh your memory. I know our attack is one of the best parts of our national team, but my plan is to make it more potent (as to be honest, our defence is very worrisome currently). I sincerely believe that if enough interest is voiced, it may draw the NFF to look more closely at that option. We may start out by trying him out in a friendly match (ideally paired with Moses).



Nigeria national team is not a place for exceptional players, it is indeed for mediocre players in back water leagues.


I hope he bounce back in January.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:29pm On Dec 26, 2017
Icon4s:


Abegi, I know that is why you have been placing emphasis on Eguavoen versus Holland.

How many games did Jerome Shakponke play before then that you have concluded he was better than Mobi. It was just the friendly against Jamaica. A very easy game that we even drew 2-2. Jerome had a good game but every certified coach knows you don't throw away your regular player due to a single performance of a new player. Jamaica, Yugoslavia and Holland, were they on the same level?

I guess you did not read that Jero was having a good game against the Netherland team until he injured. That was one of the top teams in the World at that time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:31pm On Dec 26, 2017
goldfish80:


Our attack is overrated. Remove Ighalo and the much maligned Nwakaeme, the rest of our attackers and midfielders combined cannot boast of 5 goals between them this season.
I hope the chicken don't come home to roast come June next year.

We go hear am with so called CFs for WC. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:32pm On Dec 26, 2017
oloriooko:

Nacho is still young can you compare him to Klose of years of experience?
He needs game time for mental and physical ability he cannot dwell on past glory he's gradually sliding down and some newbies on this thread think irrespective of his present form he should be handed a shirt cuz he scored a million goals b4 now

The best in camp goes. Those in good mental and physical ability should do better than Nacho in camp. If they cannot, Nacho flies to Russia.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:34pm On Dec 26, 2017
enomakos:
Mikel can plays up to 40

grin NO na 50. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:35pm On Dec 26, 2017
safarigirl:
I have never seen this Dosu guy play, but I would like to tank this particular idea because there is NO goalie, at all, in the history of Nigeria, that is worse than Agbim was for us

It seems you did not watch Emeka Okafor who kept for Siasia in the 2009 WYC. That one earned a place in my worst Nigerian goalie.

Most connected player goes to Obiora Nwankwo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 8:37pm On Dec 26, 2017
jihday:
late nineties to 2000-2001 I think they were part of the top teams in the land

Yes, they were there as one of the clubs sweating to stay afloat just like Jasper United, Gabros and Udoji but these teams did not measure up to 3SC, Enugu Rangers, Stationary Stores, Spartans later renamed Iwuanyanwy Nationale exploits nor Enyimba fc ,of recent , which is he most successful club in the land.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 8:39pm On Dec 26, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


The best in camp goes. Those in good mental and physical ability should do better than Nacho in camp. If they cannot, Nacho flies to Russia.

Finito.
You guys are getting this thing wrong
No one is saying he should not go to Russia and he should not wait until he gets to the camp b4 he knows his fate. His game time will go a long way to give him an edge when he gets to the camp except our camp is filled with below average players.
Nacho is a bundle of talent but presently he's sliding down the ladder.

QED
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:44pm On Dec 26, 2017
oloriooko:

You guys are getting this thing wrong
No one is saying he should not go to Russia and he should not wait until he gets to the camp b4 he knows his fate. His game time will go a long way to give him an edge when he gets to the camp except our camp is filled with below average players.
Nacho is a bundle of talent but presently he's sliding down the ladder.

QED

What matters is that he keeps working hard in training. He can not force himself on the coach and there is no guarantee the next club will guarantee playing time because it is a loan deal.

Puel confirmed Nacho is working hard and I saw improvements in the last game Nacho played.

As long as he keeps himself in top condition, he will be okay. He might work his way into the team of Leicester City.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:44pm On Dec 26, 2017
darkelf:


I feel Musa has become lukewarm because he believes there is already a permanent spot on the team for him

Who can blame him? He keeps getting called up despite hardly ever starting

This should stop. This guy isn't playing regularly.

It's either he goes out on loan or seeks a permanent transfer. There should be no room on the team for bench warmers

He is the only selection Rohr keeps making that I usually don't agree with (including Dan Akpeyi)

to be honest...the thing tire me....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 8:45pm On Dec 26, 2017
oloriooko:

You guys are getting this thing wrong
No one is saying he should not go to Russia and he should not wait until he gets to the camp b4 he knows his fate. His game time will go a long way to give him an edge when he gets to the camp except our camp is filled with below average players.
Nacho is a bundle of talent but presently he's sliding down the ladder.

QED
Do you really believe Nacho will not be going for the World Cup? Perhaps if he gets injured before then... With the comments here, some of you go get high BP after the final list.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:46pm On Dec 26, 2017
oloriooko:

You guys are getting this thing wrong
No one is saying he should not go to Russia and he should not wait until he gets to the camp b4 he knows his fate. His game time will go a long way to give him an edge when he gets to the camp except our camp is filled with below average players.
Nacho is a bundle of talent but presently he's sliding down the ladder.

QED
so, what is this?

oloriooko:
Nacho must seek loan move this Jan or he should forget WC

Just drop the argument before you confuse yourself more than you are already confused
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 8:47pm On Dec 26, 2017
Certitude:

Do you really believe Nacho will not be going for the World Cup? Perhaps if he gets injured before then... With the comments here, some of you go get high BP after the final list.
Yes if he continues sitting out matches and missing out in the squad
No one will get high bp except him if he fails to work harder and pick up the pace
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:48pm On Dec 26, 2017
safarigirl:
it is because of this kind of reasoning that you are an internet coach .


Go and drag Kelechi out of the plane to Russia when he enters, you hear?

Nonsense!

but truth be told....him and musa need to do something as regard this annoying Leicester coach attitude...

better nancho gets a loan move elsewhere and musa also.....that coach don't even care about these players.....since he came on bound he has not even given musa at least a minute shift in the main team....haba
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 8:50pm On Dec 26, 2017
safarigirl:

so, what is this?



Just drop the argument before you confuse yourself more than you are already confused
Yes he can go to Russia to watch football but if he continues to warm bench and stand he's going to Russia to watch not to play
No one is confused here cuz this is a simple fact
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:53pm On Dec 26, 2017
Humility017:

but truth be told....him and musa need to do something as regard this annoying Leicester coach attitude...

better nancho gets a loan move elsewhere and musa also.....that coach don't even care about these players.....since he came on bound he has not even given musa at least a minute shift in the main team....haba
so, he will give himself loan move?

And if he gets a loan move and they don't play him in the next club?

Na so we say make e leave Man City go anotge club, na the other club be this, now na make e go loan.

Na siddon look I dey so. Na only World Cup I dey look forward to, all these talk about Kelechi getting loan moves, I no join again. The sale to Leicester has taught me enough

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:54pm On Dec 26, 2017
forgiveness:


We go hear am with so called CFs for WC. grin

Over optimism too dey worry some of us for this thread. I've noticed when that optimism is not fed , all hell seem to break loose.
Truth is that none of our attacking players are displaying anything close to world cup form. In the absence of the much maligned Ighalo and Nwakaeme whats we have left this season is as follows;

IWOBI= 1 goal
VIc Moses =nil
Moses Simon=3 goals
Isaac Success=nill
Kayode= 0
BAzee=nill
Aaron Samuel= nill
Osimhen= nill
Ideye = nill
Henry Onyekuru = out of the world cup

Seriously, these numbers don't inspire confidence. As much as we talk about GKs, it worries me that our attackers are in this paupers form.

If we dont have at least 5 players on double figure goals this season , we could sleep walk out of the tournament at the very first round.
Even with Bufon in goal.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:57pm On Dec 26, 2017
goldfish80:


Over optimism too dey worry some of us for this thread. I've noticed when that optimism is not fed , all hell seem to break loose.
Truth is that none of our attacking players are displaying anything close to world cup form. In the absence of the much maligned Ighalo and Nwakaeme whats we have left this season is as follows;

IWOBI= 1 goal
VIc Moses =nil
Moses Simon=3 goals
Isaac Success=nill
Kayode= 0
BAzee=nill
Aaron Samuel= nill
Osimhen= nill
Ideye = nill
Henry Onyekuru = out of the world cup

Seriously, these numbers don't inspire confidence. As much as we talk about GKs, it worries me that our attackers are in this paupers form.

If we dont have at least 5 players on double figure goals this season , we could sleep walk out of the tournament at the very first round.
Even with Bufon in goal.
I have a great idea!

Why don't we overhaul all our forwards because they aren't performing and call up every eligible Nigerian that plays that position with at least eight goals this season for the next friendly in March?

That should help us get a potent strike force

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:59pm On Dec 26, 2017
goldfish80:


Over optimism too dey worry some of us for this thread. I've noticed when that optimism is not fed , all hell seem to break loose.
Truth is that none of our attacking players are displaying anything close to world cup form. In the absence of the much maligned Ighalo and Nwakaeme whats we have left this season is as follows;

IWOBI= 1 goal
VIc Moses =nil
Moses Simon=3 goals
Isaac Success=nill
Kayode= 0
BAzee=nill
Aaron Samuel= nill
Osimhen= nill
Ideye = nill
Henry Onyekuru = out of the world cup

Seriously, these numbers don't inspire confidence. As much as we talk about GKs, it worries me that our attackers are in this paupers form.

If we dont have at least 5 players on double figure goals this season , we could sleep walk out of the tournament at the very first round.
Even with Bufon in goal.


“We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible—you can beat better teams by using tactics."... Jurgen Klopp.

What matters is the formidable force the Super Eagles form when they play as a unit. Not individual flattering records. We got this far with sound tactics, brilliant match reading skills and players doing their best to play to instructions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:01pm On Dec 26, 2017
This Swansea of a club is funny. They sacked Paul Clemence for a 35 year old footballer to manage the team.

This one is more than African Guardiola thing.
grin

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