OMANBALA1:



And did you notice Iheanacho has gotten a little bigger or should I say muscular as oppose to how he looked when he was with Pep. Dude is probably eating 2 plates of nkwobi and isiewu everyday...smh

Lol....abeg leave my boi....joor

sometimes I wish he never left city....
but still God knows best...I know for sure..he will come up stronger...I trust in his abilities...

safarigirl:
no

. Did they lose? If they did,I'll be so glad. Since Claude Puel doesn't seem to trust Iheanacho enough to even put him on the bench,then another coach will.

safarigirl:
no be money dem dey pay personal trainer? Especially better one.

I for say make una go him page go tell am for IG or Twitter, but Kelechi no dey get contact with outside world, so he no wvwn know wetin dey happen for internet.

You can get a very good personal trainer for a paltry sum. Nobody say go hire world class trainer.

lexyman:



i know you desire so much for the team , dont forget we have a good team ,that can do well as a unit , i still believe in the ability of this team as a unit not as an individual player .... before now Iwobi was scoring , and among the best 7players in the attack line of Arsenal you will pick Iwobi . For Iheanacho , i will call this a rough patch of his career , he will get better . ...dont forget the world as a whole lack strikers , i will leave you to this to ponder on .THAT IS WHY YOU SEE MOST COACHES settle for false 9 , and its producing result .

You actually need inform players who play as a unit to achieve something. If you read my initial post , you will discover I didn't hammer on STRIKERS but ATTACKERS.

By the way, the era of false 9 was dead and burried when Spain wobbled and fumbled in 2012 Euros and 2014 world cup.
Proper strikers are back in Vogue.

oloriooko:

Unfortunately you are the one making immature silly comments for reasons best known to you
So cuz the guy scored 1million goals b4 he should be included in the team even if he's warming bench and fans stand every week? How sensible is this thought of yours? I will not insult you but seem you very saucy and uncultured for all the nonsense you said up there.
Some people will lose out on WC and Nacho is on that path except he works harder in his club or move out on loan for game time.
Please I did not make my comments so you can say rubbish to me if you are not happy about my opinion please skip it and never insult me in your life!
I will not say anything further to you on this matter

Hahahahahaha! Some people no wan hear the truth ooooooo.

AIG07:
you Know better but I'm not suprise this is coming from you. I know you'll go to any length to defend your school of thought.

Here is one question for you. I won't go far this time around.
Ighalo was turning heads up, tearing anything in his way while playing for Watford yet still he struggled to net a goal for Nigeria despite been in the form of his life. Why didn't he replicate such form for the national team despite his multiple invitations? Atleast he was invited several times.

You have a point.

Remember Makinwa for Palermo?

TheGoodJoe:


I guess you did not read that Jero was having a good game against the Netherland team until he injured. That was one of the top teams in the World at that time.

I didn't just read, I watched the game.

Nothing so special about the way he played. You are only exaggerating things just to prove your point. His best game was against a lowly rated Jamaican side.

AIG07:
your first paragraph spelt it out. Yes First invitation. Club performance get a player noticed. It get's him his first call up. Replicating that performance that got him invited in the national side is another thing.

Cc: Sir Junnyake
Modified:
other attributes like players attitude, coach's philosophy(team strategy, formations, playing patterns)etc are huge determinants.

it's junnyjake actually.

We might be on same side here, but you need to understand my point.

Your club performance tells your NT coach what he needs to know about you. How you can fit the team strategy, formations, patterns etc.

We can't totally discard a player's club performance on the basis of being different from national team football.

Watching Nigeria vs Zambia again and Victor Moses cannot play for Chelsea the way he play for Nigeria. Dude is so complacent and wasteful. He get 20 chances and scores one and everybody goes crazy.

krattoss:
It will be hard for rohr to drop nacho cos his stats for the eagless speaks for him..

But truly that dude is drastically retrogressing I swear.. this is not what we clamored for..

Although am not rohr but if I should have my way, any player that isn't cutting it at his club side ain't making that list...

Leaving Manchester City at the time he did was the best thing he could have done. He shouldn't regret it.

What he should regret is his decision to remain in England.

tbaba1234:


I am not too worried, international football is different from club football.

Even in 1994, Siasia was not prolific, Amokachi was not, Finidi was not but they made magic together in the national team.

I am more concerned about those that are not playing.

Our attackers in 94 cannot be compared to our present attackers.
Remember, the 94 team went to the world cup on the back of winning the Afcon .
Same cant be said about this team with 70% experiencing their first big tournament experience with the NT on the back of a very poor form.
The odds aren't in our favor

forgiveness:




If that be the case, why some people here wan crucify Alampasu because he didn't clean sheets? Look at how sensible country analysed the whole senerio but for here sentiment don block our head. That's why people here are trying so hard to hang him for Uzoho. Na wa oooooooo.

Alampasu played against Porto and he was rewarded with call ups and even got to feature against Senegal in a friendly.


Uzoho kept against Eibar and Girona and he got just one call up and played just 45 minutes and you've been crying ever since.

Who's unfair to who? Both of them were called to camp at the time they were because they got some 1st team games under their belt.

COOL10:
. Did they lose? If they did,I'll be so glad. Since Claude Puel doesn't seem to trust Iheanacho enough to even put him on the bench,then another coach will.

they lost 2-1

jihday:
I'll disagree with this your analogy, Klose was neither a starter nor tearing the net in the run up to the 2014 World Cup, but he still attended anyway because he's been part of the setup and one of the coach's most trusted players

Klose had teared the net with double digit goals for two seasons prior to the WC and started 24 league matches out of 25. In short, injuries hindered his season.

So, no bi because of anything em no play, unlike some players wey dey chop bench unnecessary.

oloriooko:

Nacho is still young can you compare him to Klose of years of experience?
He needs game time for mental and physical ability he cannot dwell on past glory he's gradually sliding down and some newbies on this thread think irrespective of his present form he should be handed a shirt cuz he scored a million goals b4 now

Pls, tell dem.

forgiveness:



Hahahahahaha! Some people no wan hear the truth ooooooo.

It baffles me though!

forgiveness:


Klose had teared the net with double digit goals for two seasons prior to the WC and started 24 league matches out of 25. In short, injuries hindered his season.

So, no bi because of anything em no play, unlike some players wey dey chop bench unnecessary.

Abi ooooo
How can one compare Klose to Nacho, such a huge mismatch

goldfish80:


Our attackers in 94 cannot be compared to our present attackers.
Remember, the 94 team went to the world cup on the back of winning the Afcon .
Same cant be said about this team with 70% experiencing their first big tournament experience with the NT on the back of a very poor form.
The odds aren't in our favor

Yeah true.

But one thing that has this team going is team chemistry.
Modern day football is not just about the number of star players you have but more of how you utilize your strategy to produce optimum performance from your players.

I am really happy the Croats are writing off Nigeria based on the number of big players they have and for us the lack of it.

They will not know what hit them come that day.

forgiveness:


Klose had teared the net with double digit goals for two seasons prior to the WC and started 24 league matches out of 25. In short, injuries hindered his season.

So, no bi because of anything em no play, unlike some players wey dey chop bench unnecessary.

25 games 7 goals with a seria A team I'm sure if you were German you'll protest against his selection with the unbelievable number of talents Germany have.

goldfish80:


Over optimism too dey worry some of us for this thread. I've noticed when that optimism is not fed , all hell seem to break loose.
Truth is that none of our attacking players are displaying anything close to world cup form. In the absence of the much maligned Ighalo and Nwakaeme whats we have left this season is as follows;

IWOBI= 1 goal
VIc Moses =nil
Moses Simon=3 goals
Isaac Success=nill
Kayode= 0
BAzee=nill
Aaron Samuel= nill
Osimhen= nill
Ideye = nill
Henry Onyekuru = out of the world cup

Seriously, these numbers don't inspire confidence. As much as we talk about GKs, it worries me that our attackers are in this paupers form.

If we dont have at least 5 players on double figure goals this season , we could sleep walk out of the tournament at the very first round.
Even with Bufon in goal.

Hahahahahaha! you mean we like feeding ourselves with sweet LIES?

Hahahahahah! 2nd @bolded wan tear belle. hahahahahahaha!


Honestly, we need to consider Martins for the attack role but Rohr wan carry Osimhen go WC.

jihday:
25 games 7 goals with a seria A team I'm sure if you were German you'll protest against his selection with the unbelievable number of talents Germany have.

Are you trying to compare Iheanacho situation with Klose?

goldfish80:


Over optimism too dey worry some of us for this thread. I've noticed when that optimism is not fed , all hell seem to break loose.
Truth is that none of our attacking players are displaying anything close to world cup form. In the absence of the much maligned Ighalo and Nwakaeme whats we have left this season is as follows;

IWOBI= 1 goal
VIc Moses =nil
Moses Simon=3 goals
Isaac Success=nill
Kayode= 0
BAzee=nill
Aaron Samuel= nill
Osimhen= nill
Ideye = nill
Henry Onyekuru = out of the world cup

Seriously, these numbers don't inspire confidence. As much as we talk about GKs, it worries me that our attackers are in this paupers form.

If we dont have at least 5 players on double figure goals this season , we could sleep walk out of the tournament at the very first round.
Even with Bufon in goal.

But Bros, I beg to differ a bit

In soccer today, scoring goals is a team effort in most cases and not the sole responsibility of one even if that person is the target man

Even though these guys aren't really scoring much, I believe if they are placed in a team that plays together with excellent team chemistry and tactical discipline, we should see goals been banged in.

Also, some of these guys you listed come from the bench in the dying minutes of a game and usually, scoring during those times ain't easy

Also, these guys may not be the fulcrum of attack for their respective clubs (call it the target man or the attack maestro) but may just be role players

I may be mistaken but that's how I feel

OMANBALA1:


Frankly speaking I dont think Iheanacho will thrive in a fast pace setting with intense football like Premiership but is it not beginning to look like we are making excuses for him. However, Iheanacho's biggest challenge is not pace but simple and elementary ball control! Iheanacho need to stop running and face the music...How many years is it gonna take him to fix his miserable first touch. People are here blaming the coach but just the other day Iheanacho gave away a pass that resulted to a goal against his team. I swear , if I was his coach I will turn him to a ball boy...which kind thing be this ?

He need to buy a personal trainer to work on his first touch.

this first touch thing is over hyped, lukaku too has a poor first touch and he's always hit double digit for his clubs

FabioPeter:

We can get a psychologist to make you believe you can man our Post....it takes a lot more bro.
If you watch the games Ezenwa has played for SE, you will notice he has been consistently erratic, even the games he kept a clean sheet.
Akpenyi is terribly poor and Uzoho is inexperienced. If we can’t get an in form Enyeama, we can kiss the group stage good bye

If we can't get enyeama there is no reason for us going to Russia then cos Enyeama is Alpha and omega of SE

Are you telling me no one is indispensable? There is no one like God but we have alot of human that can do your work perfectly all you need to give them is chance...
My points are clear if enyeama said he's not coming what should we do? Quit or what?

I don't believe your post... Remember we qualified without enyeama..


About the bolded part... Ain't a goalkeeper so I don't need a psychologist...

TheGoodJoe:



“We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible—you can beat better teams by using tactics."... Jurgen Klopp.

What matters is the formidable force the Super Eagles form when they play as a unit. Not individual flattering records. We got this far with sound tactics, brilliant match reading skills and players doing their best to play to instructions.

that's why i pity that Croatian coach that was saying crab about Nigeria not having world class players,for that,we can not in any sense beat them,according to him,
we cannot beat them
''not in one segment of the game,neither technical nor tactical,nor organizational''
he forgot that there are other things that can determine the outcome of a game,like determination and rest.

l have always believed that a group of above average players with determination,hard work,discipline,plus a sound coach who is able to drill and train them to play as unit,with understanding and love for each other,
and of course a superior tactics,
can always beat teams full of world class players to win a tournament or championship. which is quite different from club football.
i also believed that the best players alone can't always win a tournament,but those who posses a deeper and stronger desire to win.

TheGoodJoe:



“We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible—you can beat better teams by using tactics."... Jurgen Klopp.

What matters is the formidable force the Super Eagles form when they play as a unit. Not individual flattering records. We got this far with sound tactics, brilliant match reading skills and players doing their best to play to instructions.

You are right but na bench warmers or kindergarten players you wan start to dey teach tactics at the WC stage?

Are their clubs ignorant of tactics so tey dem drop our tactical players from match day squad?

TheGoodJoe:


I disagree, the young players can step up if given the chance. The problem is that the Goalkeeping Department have played with the role for whatever reason that is best known to them. That does not mean that we lack quality to feel the role.

God bless you sir... Kind painful if we believe no one else can do it except some set of people... It kills and fizzles out zeal of commitment and great performance

goldfish80:


It is much easier to build a winning team around performing individuals.When your first 11 and supporting cast is off form, your much more likely to loose.

The form of these players worry is a cause for concern

GBAM!

goldfish80:

You actually need inform players who play as a unit to achieve something. If you read my initial post , you will discover I didn't hammer on STRIKERS but ATTACKERS.

By the way, the era of false 9 was dead and burried when Spain wobbled and fumbled in 2012 Euros and 2014 world cup.
Proper strikers are back in Vogue.

2012 Euros ke? did they not win it ni

Humility017:

the matter tire everybody......
because this French coach don't have any utter regard for him and musa.....
the man is blind to nancho abilities and same wit musa....

any club coach...like westham, Bournemouth, Brighton etc will play him....but this very coach have no regard for him....

let's be optimistic...Leicester was never the best option for him....their style of play never suits him........

I understand a better world cup performance will push his stock....but he need to be playing competitively until then...

Make una dey dere dey decieve una self.

Icon4s:


You are very right my brother.

We are downplaying that goalkeeping department too much on this thread.

That is a huge determinant factor that can make us lose all 3 group games.

Why can't we lose all our matches during the qualifiers ...?

goldfish80:


Do they play as a unit week in week out?

were they played as a unit week in and week out?
does it really matter if they play together in weeks,or months,as long as they can be able play as a unit even in a yearly intervals,
that's all that matters.