bloodofthelamb:


What do you mean by Nigeria Christians want to know more than the people that brought it?

Is salvation oyibo thing, or GOD thing?

Ask yourself.

Aleis:

Mary has no child apart from Jesus, that is why she still refer as Virgin.
IN the Hebrew, there is no clear distinction BTW cousins, brother and sons. Those u see mentioned, are his cousins not brothers.

Nooo! Marry had more children
Mathew 1:24-25 NIV
24 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his WIFE
25 But he had no UNION with her UNTIL she gave birth to as son. King James version says FIRSTBORN SON
This is explicit enough that Mary didn't remain a virgin but later got married to Joseph and gave birth to many children...

Nauttyprof:


Brother, why are you lying just to suit your motive? Bible never mentioned James the less in Galatians 1:19. I have checked most Bible Translations and have not found less attached to it.

Why can't you just be silent where the Bible never spoke. Stop teaching people your view but allow the Bible speak.

The Bible clearly states, James, the Lord's brother.

Don't teach assumptions or human view.

You accuse me of lying, I was hoping you were sincere in the discussion but your accusation seems you have ulterior motive.

Did you not see in Gal 1:19 that James the brother of the Lord was an Apostle. Are the fathers of the two James Apostles not Alpheus and the other as Zebedee. Was any one mentioned as the son of Joseph. The Apostle James son of Alpheus is referred to the less, some versions use the younger to differentiate him from the second James, the son of Zebedee.

Investnow2017:


You never cease to amaze me and all honest-hearted readers here. How can you make such assumptions and claim they are revelations.
If your arguements do not hold water why not be humble enough to accept the truth. Must you go against every rationality? How can you flush a clear statement of a Bible writer that James was the Lord's brother with a harmless statement of Luke where he simply referred to believers as brethren or brothers. I know you know that the word brethren can refer to brothers and sisters. How can you compare that with where the Bible clearly refers to James as the BROTHER of Jesus? Is that how to compare Scriptures with Scriptures? Matthew 1:25 is too clear to be interpreted unless you want English people to change their own language to push up your argument.

I have one recommendation though. Pick up a version of the Bible in your own language, perhaps you will find it easier than the English language. You may be surprised it will help you to unlearn the false teaching which you have held so dear.

Did you not see in Gal 1:19 that James the brother of the Lord was an Apostle. Are the fathers of the two James Apostles not Alpheus and the other as Zebedee. Was any one mentioned as the son of Joseph. The Apostle James son of Alpheus is referred to the less, some versions use the younger to differentiate him from the second James, the son of Zebedee.
Does John 19:25 not say Mary the Mother Jesus is a sister to Mary the wife of Cleopas (Greek version of Alpheus) is the mother of James as said in Mark 15:40.

ajoshuay:
she has not, Joseph is a widower, jude and Joses d are step brothers of Jesus.

Scripture please?

felixomor:

Scripture please?

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See the identity of the brothers of Jesus so that so may you may understand that these are sons of Alpheus (Two of them are apostles).

The brothers of Jesus listed in Matthew 13: 55 are James and Joseph and Simon and Jude.

Gal 1.19 Identifies one of the apostles James as the brother of Jesus. (Note two of the twelve apostles bear James. One the son of Zebedee and the other son of Alpheus)

Luke 6:15: Says James father is Alpheus (not Joseph, ).
Luke 6:16: identifies the apostle Jude as the brother of James the less.
Mark 15: 40 Acknowledges that the mother of James the less is also the mother of Joseph. Hence James and Joseph are brothers. So with this we can see that James the less, Jude and Joseph listed as brothers of Jesus in Matthew 13:55 have been identified .
John 19:25 Identifies Mary of Cleopas(Alpheus) as the sister of Mary the mother of Jesus.( Note Cleopas is the Greek version of the Aramaic name Alpheus).
Hence the brothers are simply his relatives. Since their Mother is a sister to Mary the Mother of Jesus

amakadihot87:
...........lol.........make a better research

I have done more greater research you will ever do

jamislaw:
so your god has four brothers and sister.......looooooooooooll.

pls explain this.

idylnoble:


Nooo! Marry had more children
Mathew 1:24-25 NIV
24 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his WIFE
25 But he had no UNION with her UNTIL she gave birth to as son. King James version says FIRSTBORN SON
This is explicit enough that Mary didn't remain a virgin but later got married to Joseph and gave birth to many children...

When the scriptures say Firstborn Son it was only a term used to denote the First Issue from the womb whether beast or human check Exodus13:1-2. If that is not convincing enough then check out Heb1:6 it says that Jesus was the First born son of God. Does that then means that God had other begotten sons? No!!! I because John 3:16 says that Jesus is the only begotten son of God. So when the scriptures in Luke 2:7 said Jesus was the First Born Son of Mary it doesn't mean that Mary had other children just like it doesn't mean that God had other begotten sons because Heb1:6 called Jesus the First Born Son of God. To find out more please check
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLVZm4fwIEw

Investnow2017:


How is Ezekiel chapter 44:2 related to Mary being wife of Joseph? Or are you saying that she did not continue to be Joseph's wife after giving birth to Jesus?

it is a prophecy that come to fulfilment . The medium through which The Lord enters this Earth remains closed, no any other man came through it.

joey150:


Sometimes people make me laugh. Catholics compiled the bible. You are studying their book, yet you don't want to take lessons from them.

Like it or not, the Catholic church is the root of Christianity. They have the final say on all bible teachings. They personally vetted the bible. If you doubt their stance on Mary as a virgin and not having any other kids, then you better also doubt the last supper and the rest of the bible.

This is for you and other protestant Christians, that are quick to act smart.

swerve Mary worshipper

Nauttyprof:


Assumption? I have shown you the Bible from KJV which has the original text before modern day English took over for simplicity and in some areas original meaning was lost.

for your mind king James was the original bible.

Bro get a Hebrew bible if u are serious. Kjv uses old English that's no longer in use today.
There were other translations before kjv.

Nauttyprof:


The original text by KJV Matthew 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

So, this mean it ended after the birth

even from kjv you use, i did not see where it said that Joseph had intercourse with her.

Investnow2017:


What you find at Revelation is equally written in Deuteronmy 4:2. God is simply telling us to be careful not to add to his word. It is a tone that resonates throughout the Bible. Gal 1:8, 1st Cor 4:6. Do not go beyond the things that are written.

That is the point dear.

My "dear" these books were separate books that were written by different authors and was eventually compiled to form the bible.


I hope you get the point now dear.

valentineuwakwe:



make banana fall on you....

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May Adaka fall on u...

Vikky014:
swerve Mary worshipper

Awwww .

I love and honour her.

Be like her...emulate her. She's a loving mother.

joey150:



Awwww .

I love and honour her.

Be like her...emulate her. She's a loving mother.

She's a human being.

Karlovich:
I suppose these are the number of men that ravaged Mary

fart on your head

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Jesus Had Brothers??
Doesn’t a casual study of the Bible prove that Jesus had brothers, and that Mary had relations with Joseph after Jesus was born? Well, no, it doesn’t, but in order to come to the truth, one has to study the entire bible, and know the exact meaning of certain words. In other words, actually STUDY the bible, and not just take everything on superficial face value. So let’s take a look and see why Mary’s Perpetual Virginity is indeed the Truth.

First off, one has to realize that in the Greek that the New Testament was written in, there is no specific word for “brother,” but rather a generic word that could mean brother or cousin or nephew. That Greek word is “adelphos.” This word “adelphos” is used numerous times in the New Testament to describe “the brothers of Jesus.” Specifically, in Matthew 13:55-56, four men are named as the brothers (adelphos) of Jesus – James, Joseph, Simon, and Jude. But if you cross reference Matthew 13:55-56 with John 19:25, it says that at the cross were present the mother (the Blessed Virgin Mary) of Jesus, and her sister Mary (the wife of Clopas), and Mary of Magdala! That is 3 Mary’s at the foot of the cross! Why is this significant? Because in Matthew 27:56, we learn Mary the wife of Clopas is the mother of James and Joseph, the cousins, not brothers, of Jesus. Tradition has it that St. Jude is also the cousin of Jesus.

And besides the connotation of the Greek word “adelphos,” there is Matthew 23:8 where Jesus declares us all to be “brothers.” In Mark 3:35, we learn that whoever does the will of God is the brother and sister of Jesus! This is very evident with St. Paul, who calls Timothy his brother in 2 Corinthians 1:1, Colossians 1:1, 1 Thessalonians 3:2, and Hebrews 13:23.

There is also the scripture in Luke 1:34, where the archangel Gabriel tells Mary that she is to be the Mother of the Messiah, and Mary asks, “How can this be, since I know not a man?” We already found out earlier in Luke 1:27 that Mary and Joseph were betrothed to one another. So why would Mary, who knew the facts of life (we know this because of the nature of her question) ask such a question if she and Joseph were already betrothed? Because of her vow of virginity. We learn that her vow of virginity taken as a youth can even be enforced during marriage, if her husband doesn’t object, in Numbers 30:2-7:

"When a man vows a vow to the LORD, or swears an oath to bind himself by a pledge, he shall not break his word; he shall do according to all that proceeds out of his mouth. Or when a woman vows a vow to the LORD, and binds herself by a pledge, while within her father's house, in her youth, and her father hears of her vow and of her pledge by which she has bound herself, and says nothing to her; then all her vows shall stand, and every pledge by which she has bound herself shall stand. But if her father expresses disapproval to her on the day that he hears of it, no vow of hers, no pledge by which she has bound herself, shall stand; and the LORD will forgive her, because her father opposed her. And if she is married to a husband, while under her vows or any thoughtless utterance of her lips by which she has bound herself, and her husband hears of it, and says nothing to her on the day that he hears; then her vows shall stand, and her pledges by which she has bound herself shall stand."

In John 19:26, Jesus gives his mother to the Apostle John, which would violate Jewish customs that the next son in line would have to care for the mother. Jesus made sure that Mary was taken care of by a non-blood relative, the apostle John.

But what about Matthew 1:25, where it says that Joseph knew her not UNTIL she borne a son? Doesn’t the word “until” mean that Joseph had relations after Jesus was born? No, it doesn’t. If a Dad tells his kids to be good UNTIL he gets back, he is in no way implying that they should be bad after he gets back! Jesus said that he will be with us UNTIL the end of the world, which in no way implies that he will not be with us after the end of the world. And in 1 Timothy 4:13, Paul says to attend to scripture, preaching, and teaching “until I come.” In no way is Paul implying that Timothy should ignore those things after Paul returns. In 1 Corinthians 15:25, Paul says that Christ must reign UNTIL he has defeated His enemies. Paul is not saying that Jesus will stop reigning after that!

But besides all of the aforementioned, Mary is the bride of the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary with Jesus. This HAS to be a truism, unless you really want to believe that the Holy Spirit was somehow fornicating with Mary (an IMPOSSIBILITY) and that Jesus was the illegitimate son of Mary and the Holy Spirit. St. Joseph would in no way want to infringe on the Holy Spirit’s right to the body of Mary with any conjugal relations. That right belonged to the Holy Spirit only, not any man. Mary surely needed a man to protect her and care for her on this earth, and God chose the holy St. Joseph for this task, not only because he was chaste and holy, but also because Joseph was a direct descendant of King David. Jesus had to be born a true son of David in order to claim the crown of the Kingdom on earth that had been vacated since the divided Kingdoms fell 500 years earlier. And Joseph knew that Mary would have been put to death if people thought that she became pregnant through fornication with no husband, so St. Joseph served as her protector in that regard as well!

So, as the old riddle goes, "What do you get when you combine Mary with the Holy Spirit? JESUS!!!





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PrecisionFx:


She's a human being.

Let me play along with your obvious ignorance.

Can't i love and honour a human being?

CharlieMaria:
When the scriptures say Firstborn Son it was only a term used to denote the First Issue from the womb whether beast or human check Exodus13:1-2. If that is not convincing enough then check out Heb1:6 it says that Jesus was the First born son of God. Does that then means that God had other begotten sons? No!!! I because John 3:16 says that Jesus is the only begotten son of God. So when the scriptures in Luke 2:7 said Jesus was the First Born Son of Mary it doesn't mean that Mary had other children just like it doesn't mean that God had other begotten sons because Heb1:6 called Jesus the First Born Son of God. To find out more please check
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLVZm4fwIEw

God does not need to create a son for himself and also create the devil and Holy spirit.

joey150:



Let me play along with your obvious ignorance.

Can't i love and honour a human being?

No need to go down to the ignorance.

U can't luv dead people

Aleis:

Mary has no child apart from Jesus, that is why she still refer as Virgin.
IN the Hebrew, there is no clear distinction BTW cousins, brother and sons. Those u see mentioned, are his cousins not brothers.

So how did u know that they where his brothers n cousins??

PrecisionFx:




No need to go down to the ignorance.

U can't luv dead people

Abeg go sleep.

miraclejoy:

even from kjv you use, i did not see where it said that Joseph had intercourse with her.

U also did not see where it was said that they have Sex.

PrecisionFx:




No need to go down to the ignorance.

U can't luv dead people

You call those with Christ dead?
. Phil1: 22 If I am to live in the flesh, that means fruitful labor for me. Yet which I shall choose I cannot tell. 23 I am hard pressed between the two. My desire is to depart and be with Christ, for that is far better

MosesAlex:

You call those with Christ dead?
. Phil1: 22 If I am to live in the flesh, that means fruitful labor for me. Yet which I shall choose I cannot tell. 23 I am hard pressed between the two. My desire is to depart and be with Christ, for that is far better

U post is very very meaningless n unconnected.

joey150:


Abeg go sleep.

tankoaquila:

Jesus was never a slave but a son

Thank for this important distinction. We are after that order. We are sons of the Most High and not some Arabian slaves. Thanks once again.

miraclejoy:

even from kjv you use, i did not see where it said that Joseph had intercourse with her.

This is English and not written in a strange language. Kindly patiently read this and you will see that Mary's virginity ended after the birth of Christ

MosesAlex:


You accuse me of lying, I was hoping you were sincere in the discussion but your accusation seems you have ulterior motive.

Did you not see in Gal 1:19 that James the brother of the Lord was an Apostle. Are the fathers of the two James Apostles not Alpheus and the other as Zebedee. Was any one mentioned as the son of Joseph. The Apostle James son of Alpheus is referred to the less, some versions use the younger to differentiate him from the second James, the son of Zebedee.

Brother, no version used James, the lesser. You added this yourself. I have checked Galatians 1:19 again.

We are to keep silent where the Bible never spoke.

As for ulterior motive, I have none except that the word of God prevails over human wisdom

miraclejoy:

for your mind king James was the original bible.

Bro get a Hebrew bible if u are serious. Kjv uses old English that's no longer in use today.
There were other translations before kjv.

Hello Sister, kindly see the following translations for Matthew 1:25

New Living Translation
But he did not have sexual relations with her until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus.

English Standard Version
but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.

Berean Study Bible
But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a Son. And he gave Him the name Jesus.


Berean Literal Bible
But he did not know her until she had brought forth a Son, and he called His name Jesus.

New American Standard Bible
but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.

King James Bible
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
but did not know her intimately until she gave birth to a son. And he named Him Jesus.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And he did not know her sexually until she delivered her firstborn son, and she called his name Yeshua.


I have painstakingly shown you various versions of the Bible now just for you to know the truth. Please, note Aramaic Bible and also Holman Christian Standard Bible, they seem to give this in a plain language for easy comprehension.

Like I stated earlier, the focus is on Christ and not Mary as her virginity ended after Christ birth. Only Christ birth was unique in that it came through a virgin and without sexual intercourse.

I hope these versions helped.