dmcdad:

You're being myopic! What we look for from a defender is different from what others look for. Would you have bought Bravo? Tell me! The same reason we bought him was why Pep bought him, because of his ball-playing ability. Does that make him world class because Barça were interested in him and eventually bought him? By your logic it's a yes, but that's absolutely wrong.

Don't get ahead of yourself. The reason we wanted him was the same reason Pep went for him, and not because he was world class. You just need to get over yourself and be realistic.

Ohh well... I guess Malcom is world class then since Man U are supposedly interested in him. Right? Smh...

Otamendi is world class cos utd also wanted him....

Its been 3-4 years fans worldwide including Utd fans, each thanking their various gods/stars that we dodged the "otamendi" calamity project but just this season people are now claiming he is world class
Capital cee said Ota was best defender @ Spain therefore that automatically qualifies him as the best, I wonder when football became 1+1.
Now the same calamity is better than Bailey & Jones I give up before person go say Stones/Mangala is better than ..............

ctuagent007:


Otamendi is world class cos utd also wanted him....

Its been 3-4 years fans worldwide including Utd fans, each thanking their various gods/stars that we dodged the "otamendi" calamity project but just this season people are now claiming he is world class
Capital cee said Ota was best defender @ Spain therefore that automatically qualifies him as the best, I wonder when football became 1+1.
Now the same calamity is better than Bailey & Jones I give up before person go say Stones/Mangala is better than ..............

The reality is they are accepting these just to justify themselves about Pep not doing anything special with those boys. I could remember how men were thanking their stars they didn't end up getting Otamendi. Now, he is the next best thing after séx. Alright!

SIRcumalot:

I think it is spiritual a problem,the kain hate ukaku they inspire I just hope say e no dey read am.
There is a part of me that wants this dude to do so well that he joins Madrid or Barça make I see wetin people go talk then.

Barcelona of Nnewi or Real Madrid of Ijebu Ode?

patrickmuf:
Mourinho told you this? Same Mou that dropped one of our better players (Herrera) last season to the bench doesn't have freedom?
Same Mou that left a fit Shaw on the bench?
Same Mou that benches Mkhitaryan or drops him from the match day squad?
Same Mou that plays Lukaku almost every game even when he was serving us bullshit?
Abeg you can proceed with other excuses but this one won't fly, I'll be here to shoot it down whenever you try to launch it

You dey see excuses? Mourinho doesnt have the power to wield the axe? Abeg who come sell Schweinsteiger Schnederlin Depay

elampiro:
Not in today’s market where one player cost £150m. When last did Manchester United compete for the title?

How many players in the EPL have been bought for 150M? Do you know that the 2 most expensive players in the EPL play for Mourinho and were bought by him?

PietroRico:
Pep the famous magic worker didn't work his magic on Navas, nasri or Iheanacho. Na only sterling name everybody dey call.

Like sterling Wey we watch for Liverpool wasn't already a very gifted footballer.

He chased duds like Sagna, Clichy, Zabaleta, Kolarov etc but Mourinho must perform magic with darmian and his ilk

All of you really need to chill on the pep the player miracle worker narrative.

See Coman post pep.

I haven't seen one person blame pep for Iheanacho, who was rated as one of the brightest young talents in the world before Pep came.

How old were Zabaleta Sagna Clichy Navas and how old is Darmian

Not only Sterling, Sane Delph Otamendi too

larride:
So you mean Delph and Stones are not good players prior to Pep?

Delph that was stuck to the bench and even forgotten by many people or Stones that many used to laugh at

Neymar1095:
Top 3 UK transfers of all time: Man United
- Pogba Man United - Lukaku Man United
- Di Maria....continue.

Yet Mourinho is complaining about Man City signing Walker for 50M, Abeg how much did he sign Lindelof

Nihilist:
Iheanacho was never one of the best young players in the world.

He just had one stat that looked good due to a limited number of appearances.

I remember when one guy on my thread was yarning about iheanacho being better than all the leicester strikers just before his transfer, and i advised him to wait and let him see shirt first.

These days kelechi is even lucky to make the leiceister bench.

Iheanacho cant even make first team at Leicester but na Guardiola dem go blame for Iheanacho, Why not blame Mourinho for Depay

As if the last 3 games painment no do una,they now said fellaini wants 170k per week contract

raumdeuter:


Iheanacho cant even make first team at Leicester but na Guardiola dem go blame for Iheanacho, Why not blame Mourinho for Depay

lol,oga with the hate mourinho has on this thread,you might actually see someone who would do so

Let's just stop the argument abeg.
Pep is far far better than Jose. Case closed.

codedguy1:


we don take this thing tire for here.

By the time Mourinho exhibits this type of strategy again next season, then we go come know say na area one chance we don enter.
How Mourinho will change to an attacking strategy is what I would like to see.

I hope he gets all the players he wants this next 2windows so there would be no excuse of "must we win the league this season" next season.

To think some of folks have used the excuse of Mou not getting Perisic at one stage or another is funny, same Perisic that is better on the left where we have Martial and Rashford...Mou might not have as strong a bench as City but we shouldn't be 14 pts behind at this stage with the quality within our ranks.

The Kain arguments I see here is just too debasing to be called beer parlor banters.

See flawed analysis and view points...

As far as I'm concerned. The undoing of Manchester United came when Mourinho prioritized and favoured defending a slim lead at all cost, above a wide margin score.

Our attacking game at the start of the season was fluid and functional.
We buried whatever team.

Guardiola simply stuck to what he had been doing since the beginning of the campaign which is Attack...
and a little tweaking here and there and not a change in pattern..

By the way from the little I've seen, Mata currently is the only United player with the best Positioning. For doubters, check the stats, he's the one in the squad with the highest goals so far.

Simple logic is get him involved.

Baritone:
As far as I'm concerned. The undoing of Manchester United came when Mourinho prioritized and favoured defending a slim lead at all cost, above a wide margin score.

Our attacking game at the start of the season was fluid and functional.
We buried whatever team.

Guardiola simply stuck to what he had been doing since the beginning of the campaign which is Attack...
and a little tweaking here and there and not a change in pattern..

By the way from the little I've seen, Mata currently is the only United player with the best Positioning. For doubters, check the stats, he's the one in the squad with the highest goals so far.

Simple logic is get him involved.

The emboldened reiterated what I have been explaining since the start of the day.

Baritone:
As far as I'm concerned. The undoing of Manchester United came when Mourinho prioritized and favoured defending a slim lead at all cost, above a wide margin score.

Our attacking game at the start of the season was fluid and functional.
We buried whatever team.

Guardiola simply stuck to what he had been doing since the beginning of the campaign which is Attack...
and a little tweaking here and there and not a change in pattern..

By the way from the little I've seen, Mata currently is the only United player with the best Positioning. For doubters, check the stats, he's the one in the squad with the highest goals so far.

Simple logic is get him involved.

Why did he changed the system that worked for the team.,something must be wrong somewhere.

Digriz:
Why did he changed the system that worked for the team.,something must be wrong somewhere.

Pogba got injured and Mkhi started to disappear, things never remained the same again.

LoRdCaT:
This post will come back to haunt you.
Scratch that, your stupidity will come back to haunt you
Fvck it, I will haunt you.

Am still waiting oo oga

dmcdad:

Now what is the bone of contention? You said and I quote... "Stone wasn't an average player at Everton." And you also admitted he aint world class on the emboldened. Now, from the aforementioned premises, what do we make of Stones prior to joining City. Since you said he wasn't average and also wasn't world class, what was he then?

I thought you are one of the most intelligent Barça fans on this forum, if you don't know the difference between world class players, average players and good players then we shouldn't be having this conversation.

Simple question: Is Umtiti a world class player or an average player?

Neymar1095:
It's now official, Man United are the most
boring team in the prem. Absolute shite.

I said this back on October. ..uhmmm

It's just plain stupid for Mourinho to blame spending on why Pep is bossing him in the PL.

Mou himself is a bleeping spender, that someone else spends with sense is not an excuse.

Pep has just shown he is the better manager- tactically, mentally, spiritually and physically.

Abi nor be so?
Raumdueter, Eruditor

larride:


I thought you are one of the most intelligent Barça fans on this forum, if you don't know the difference between world class players, average players and good players then we shouldn't be having this conversation.

Simple question: Is Umtiti a world class player or an average player?

On this same Nairaland, in the search bar, type "John stones average" and tell me how many posters have called him average

Pep's success this season is simply tactical ingenuity. He played Silva and KDB in a two pronged midfield..

Mou can't get any tactics he only moans when his players fail.

Blaming spending on City's part is just plain stupid and nauseating. Abi na excess spending make Man yo draw with Burnley?

Mou should go crawling and apologizing to Pep. Bow down for your master skunck.

obianojazz your attention is needed.

eph12:

Pogba got injured and Mkhi started to disappear, things never remained the same again.

Yeah i remember, Pogba's injury was the catalyst to the team regression

kelvinze your attention is needed.

Spy360:
It's just plain stupid for Mourinho to blame spending on why Pep is bossing him in the PL.

Mou himself is a bleeping spender, that someone else spends with sense is not an excuse.

Pep has just shown he is the better manager- tactically, mentally, spiritually and physically.

Abi nor be so?
Raumdueter, Eruditor

Spender!? You mean the clubs or the coaches?

Isn't Mou just trying to get ManU spend money and buy quality players the way City has helped Pep by giving him quality players.

Mourinho is managing what he has available to him, just like Pep is managing what was made available to him as well.

City, Pep and the players deserve credit for what they are doing so far. Mou feels he is doing the best he can, and truthfully he is.

hoopLA your attention is needed.

raumdeuter:


On this same Nairaland, in the search bar, type "John stones average" and tell me how many posters have called him average

Because NL analyst say so does it make it so? Do you also agree that we have only 2 types of players, average players and world class players?

larride:


I thought you are one of the most intelligent Barça fans on this forum, if you don't know the difference between world class players, average players and good players then we shouldn't be having this conversation.

Simple question: Is Umtiti a world class player or an average player?

O Lawd!!! You are shooting yourself in the foot bruv. Chai. You wanna know how? Just read your previous responses to me as per this discourse and you'd understand what I am talking about.

The problem with your line of argument is that... You make use of the certain words almost interchangeably. I wouldn't presume you don't know the differences between them. I'll give it to you that it was a mere typo or rather misplacement of words.

Meanwhile, I don't wanna pursue this further. You are mincing words and it's boring. I already typed and pointed out all the loopholes in your argument, but decided to erase it cause it would only give rise to further arguments from you as you wouldn't wanna accept. I don't like having a merry-go-round of arguments.

As per Umtiti, he is already world class by every standard. Show me a world class defender today and tell me what he is doing that Umtiti ain't doing as much, or even better.

Jose is a hypocrite of the highest order which makes his attempts at manipulating the situation very hard to bear. Burnley didn’t draw at United because City have spent more, Burnley drew at United because they played football well enough to.
Let him fcking leave the club before doing more damages which i believe all the players dislike his tactics.