Argument of some people here in defense of Mourinho is just annoying. Mourinho is just a dumbass, kiss the truth! He's deluded and looking for flimsy excuse to bail himself out. Who would say £300Million isn't enough to assemble a wining team? Useless mofo!

He lacks good tactics and football intelligence. All he knows is his defensive way and he's such a dumbass that has refused to change.

I could remember in one of City's matches, there was a little pressure on the team and the defenders started volleying the ball but Pep shout at him and asked him to play the ball the down. They listened to him, got their composure back and won the match in styles. That's an example of a coach that has a philosophy and intelligence and stick to it because he believes.

I also think one of Mourinho's undoings is that he talks too much and this makes him to lose focus. Earlier this season when City was struggling everybody said many things against Pep; criticized his tikitaka philosophy, but rather than being distracted, he kept his focus and never blame anybody. He believed in his philosophy and kept to it.

There's no excuse for Mourinho. He's a failure and deserve to be kicked out of United if the club wants to move forward without destroying their brand.

.......... still won't talk!

Oasis007:


.......... still won't talk!

Linkfield:

Don't force me to talk, hence................?!

dmcdad:

O Lawd!!! You are shooting yourself in the foot bruv. Chai. You wanna know how? Just read your previous responses to me as per this discourse and you'd understand what I am talking about.

The problem with your line of argument is that... You make use of the certain words almost interchangeably. I wouldn't presume you don't know the differences between them. I'll give it to you that it was a mere typo or rather misplacement of words.

Meanwhile, I don't wanna pursue this further. You are mincing words and it's boring. I already typed and pointed out all the loopholes in your argument, but decided to erase it cause it would only give rise to further arguments from you as you wouldn't wanna accept. I don't like having a merry-go-round of arguments.

As per Umtiti, he is already world class by every standard. Show me a world class defender today and tell me what he is doing that Umtiti ain't doing as much, or even better.

Umtiti World Class LOL. No wonder they call Barça fans barkadot.

The use of the term "World class" has so been bastardized. Umtiti world class. Lmao.

Oasis007:
Transfer Rumor

Manchester United are keen to sign Juventus' attacking midfielder Paulo Dybala in a £60m deal, the Daily Star reports.

The paper says Jose Mourinho is "desperate" to sign a new number 10 with Juan Mata and Henrikh Mkhitaryan having failed to make their mark at Old Trafford.

Him buying players like Messi, Ronaldo, Griezzy, Mbappe, Neymar and others will not change his stup1p, boring, old, outdated, washed up, id1otic style. He has lost it, he has gone out of ideas/strategies.

Motherfuvking Oloshios Manager!

He should fvck off and leave Man Utd alone, abeg!

Comparing Man United's spending to City's: does Mourinho have a point?

MOURINHO vs. GUARDIOLA

The key line from Mourinho's post-Burnley press conference was that the money he has spent on his United team is "not enough" to properly challenge City. It seems like a strange thing to say given that almost every other manager would love to have United's budget to splurge on players. Still, Mourinho is only talking about United vs. City and in that context, he is right that Guardiola has spent more.

Since taking over at the Etihad Stadium in 2016, Guardiola has spent £361.1m on 12 players. Over the same span, Mourinho has spent £286.3m on seven players. It would have been eight had he signed Ivan Perisic in the summer like he wanted.

United broke the world record when they signed Paul Pogba for £89.3m in 2016 and splashed £75m on Romelu Lukaku last summer. The rest, though, have all been around the £30m mark while Zlatan Ibrahimovic was free (at least in terms of transfer fees).

City, meanwhile, have paid between £40m and £50m for five players since Guardiola arrived.
Over the same period, United have recouped £51m (primarily from the sales of Memphis Depay and Morgan Schneiderlin) while City banked £79.5m from offloading the likes of Edin Dzeko, Kelechi Iheanacho and Wilfried Bony.

MOURINHO's GRIPE

As well as saying he has not had enough money, Mourinho also made mention of City "buying full-backs for the price of strikers," a reference to City spending £120.8m on Kyle Walker, Benjamin Mendy and Danilo in the summer. What will annoy Mourinho most, though, is not the fees but the fact that Guardiola got what he wanted.

City initially tried to haggle with Tottenham over Walker but ended up paying £45 million -- close to the full asking price -- because Guardiola made it clear how important he would be this season.

By contrast, sources have told ESPN FC that United refused to meet Inter Milan's price for Perisic. Mourinho was clear he wanted four new signings in the summer but only got three. Of those, only two (Lukaku and Nemanja Matic) have been able to go straight into the team.

It is not the first time this season that Mourinho has referenced money. Asked for his thoughts after a 2-0 home win over Benfica in the Champions League in October, he replied: "We score two goals we didn't concede. Three more points, which makes 12. More money for the club because every victory means money."

It seemed like an odd thing to say but the inference was that if he is doing his bit to bring money in, he should also be allowed to spend it.

THE END PRODUCT

City have spent more than United over the last 18 months but the numbers, £360m compared to £280m, are comparable. It's just that City's spending has had more of an impact.

The United team that started Boxing Day's 2-2 against Burnley included seven players that Mourinho inherited. Playing West Brom before Christmas, United fielded an entire back-five left behind by Sir Alex Ferguson. The City team Guardiola fielded against Tottenham the same weekend contained eight players brought in over the past three summers.

In the five years since Ferguson retired, United have spent £609.5m on 22 players. Louis van Gaal brought in 13, of which six have already left. Mourinho can at least be happy that the majority of his signings seem to have paid off.

The jury is still out on Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Victor Lindelof but the rest have been successes. Mourinho will argue that he just needs more.

http://kwese.espn.com/football/club/manchester-united/360/blog/post/3326681/man-united-spending-vs-man-city-does-jose-mourinho-have-right-to-complain?src=com

larride:


Umtiti World Class LOL. No wonder they call Barça fans barkadot.

The use of the term "World class" has so been bastardized. Umtiti world class. Lmao.

Of course it's understandable you have chosen to go this direction because he is not overhyped. That's really understandable. I bet you, if he were plying his trade in the EPL, then a different tune would be sung about him.

Meanwhile, I don't make silly assertions. If you like go with the usual Barça fans are Barcabots blah blah blah... It doesn't rile me a bit.

But just do me favour... Name the world class defenders you know presently.

IFearGod:
Argument of some people here in defense of Mourinho is just annoying. Mourinho is just a dumbass, kiss the truth! He's deluded and looking for flimsy excuse to bail himself out. Who would say £300Million isn't enough to assemble a wining team? Useless mofo!

He lacks good tactics and football intelligence. All he knows is his defensive way and he's such a dumbass that has refused to change.

I could remember in one of City's matches, there was a little pressure on the team and the defenders started volleying the ball but Pep shout at him and asked him to play the ball the down. They listened to him, got their composure back and won the match in styles. That's an example of a coach that has a philosophy and intelligence and stick to it because he believes.

I also think one of Mourinho's undoings is that he talks too much and this makes him to lose focus. Earlier this season when City was struggling everybody said many things against Pep; criticized his tikitaka philosophy, but rather than being distracted, he kept his focus and never blame anybody. He believed in his philosophy and kept to it.

There's no excuse for Mourinho. He's a failure and deserve to be kicked out of United if the club wants to move forward without destroying their brand.

It's a good thing some of you guys still have heads on your shoulders. Nice one bruv.

nitrogen:


Him buying players like Messi, Ronaldo, Griezzy, Mbappe, Neymar and others will not change his stup1p, boring, old, outdated, washed up, id1otic style. He has lost it, he has gone out of ideas/strategies.

Motherfuvking Oloshios Manager!

He should fvck off and leave Man Utd alone, abeg!

Una dey vex o....... still on no-talk Mode!

No Stones. No Delph. No Silva. No Mendy. No Kompany. Ffs.....Our streak ends today. I can feel it.

#Change_your_style_or_leave_like_that.

BlueAngel444:
Spender!? You mean the clubs or the coaches?

Isn't Mou just trying to get ManU spend money and buy quality players the way City has helped Pep by giving him quality players.

Mourinho is managing what he has available to him, just like Pep is managing what was made available to him as well.

City, Pep and the players deserve credit for what they are doing so far. Mou feels he is doing the best he can, and truthfully he is.

Apart from Walker, Pep has not really used any of his new signings. He lost Mendy early in the season. Most of them are subs.

His success was playing De Bruyne and Silva in midfield.

Mou should learn from him rather than complain. He complains a lot and that is very sickening. All he does is blame others, blame everyone except himself.

Liverpool codedly beef up their defence with the signing of Virgil Van Dijk!

Sky sources understand that the fee for Virgil Van Dijk will be £75m, which would be a world record for a defender. 



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If Liverpool could pay £75m to sign a Defender, then United Board should be ready to splash Pounds on JM main Targets.

dmcdad:

Of course it's understandable you have chosen to go this direction because he is not overhyped. That's really understandable. I bet you, if he were plying his trade in the EPL, then a different tune would be sung about him.

Meanwhile, I don't make silly assertions. If you like go with the usual Barça fans are Barcabots blah blah blah... It doesn't rile me a bit.

But just do me favour... Name the world class defenders you know presently.

If Umtiti is going to be characterized as World Class to you then what will Ramos be called? Super world class? because obviously Umtiti is not on the same level as Ramos et all.

Don't start with the he's not playing in the epl rubbish, Ramos, Chilleni, Alaba n co didn't play in the epl and no one is denying that they are world class, so try another excuse.

Spy360:

Apart from Walker, Pep has not really used any of his new signings. He lost Mendy early in the season. Most of them are subs.

His success was playing De Bruyne and Silva in midfield.

Mou should learn from him rather than complain. He complains a lot and that is very sickening. All he does is blame others, blame everyone except himself.

Exactly! Every other person is to blame but Mourinho. Smh

Oasis007:
Sky sources understand that the fee for Virgil Van Dijk will be £75m, which would be a world record for a defender. 



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If Liverpool could pay £75m to sign a Defender, United Board shouldn't hesitate to release substantial Amount for JM to sign his [mostly] preferred Targets.

nobody wants to reason it that way,d board couldn't forkk out 50m for a winger d gaffer actually wanted..

dubylhover:


nobody wants to reason it that way,d board couldn't forkk out 50m for a winger d gaffer actually wanted..

Liverpool is silently building a formidable Team for next Season. Van Dijk will join in January, you and I know he's a top Defender and definitely gonna be an upgrade on all the present Liverpool Defenders.

Kaita will join his Team Mates in the summer, and no doubt he's a talented Lad. A very good Midfielder. If more Additions are made, and Coutinho eventually opts to stay, I fear for United next Season with the current Bricklayers we are parading as Players.

Oasis007:





Una dey vex o....... still on no-talk Mode!

Bros, I officially joined the Mourinho Out bandwagon after the Man City game.

See eh, he doesn't have the sense to identify where issues are and address them accordingly.

We have issues with set-piecez, and we parade tall players in every department. See the two goals city scored against us, check out Leicester's and burnley's second goals. Upfront, the short ones don't know how to accurately and effectively cross the ball, and the tall ones don't know how to head the ball. And we have a fuvking manager!

How can you be ultra defensive against teams like Southampton, Leicester, etc and the team is worth over 300m pounds?? It doesn't make sense. We have the players, but we don't have a talented and reasonable manager, simples!

We have a manager that can only defend, depend on luck to score, lose, whine, come up with excuses every fuvking time, rinse and repeat!

Oasis007 is Spy360's intel correct

City in the current first team bought in Pep's time

Bravo - 15m, Sane - 47m, Walker -52m, Danilo - 25m, G. Jesus - 27m,
Gundagun - 30m, Stones - 47m, Eduardo - 35m, B. Silva - 43m

( Mendy - 51m not included is like a player bought but not playing yet Costa and co.)

total - 320m pounds

Man U

Baily - 30m, Mkhi - 30m, Pogba - 90m, Lukaku - 90m, Victor Lindelof - 33m, Matic - 40m

total - 310m Pounds

Both lists have 3 - 4 players with great recognition before their purchase

nitrogen:

Bros, I officially joined the Mourinho Out bandwagon after the Man City game.

See eh, he doesn't have the sense to identify where issues are and address them accordingly.

We have issues with set-piecez, and we parade tall players in every department. See the two goals city scored against us, check out Leicester's and burnley's second goals. Upfront, the short ones don't know how to accurately and effectively cross the ball, and the tall ones don't know how to head the ball. And we have a fuvking manager!

How can you be ultra defensive against teams like Southampton, Leicester, etc and the team is worth over 300m pounds?? It doesn't make sense. We have the players, but we don't have a talented and reasonable manager, simples!

We have a manager that can only defend, depend on luck to score, lose, whine, come up with excuses every fuvking time, rinse and repeat!

LMAO!

Brother....... you need Oxygen to calm your anger!

larride:


If Umtiti is going to be characterized as World Class to you then what will Ramos be called? Super world class? because obviously Umtiti is not on the same level as Ramos et all.

Don't start with the he's not playing in the epl rubbish, Ramos, Chilleni, Alaba n co didn't play in the epl and no one is denying that they are world class, so try another excuse.

Your argument is so flawed. Damn!

Are you saying all world class players are on the same level? Gosh! Is Ronaldo not world class? Is Messi not world class? Is Neymar not world class? But are they all in the same level? Mehn, you dey fall your hand big time. By your logic then, if Neymar is world class, Messi should be Super world class, abi? Smh for you.

Now, back to the nitty-gritty. You people sometimes misjudge people, especially rating someone because of their past exploits alone. Yes, being tagged world class shouldn't be a one season wonder thing. It should be that you've consistently performed at a high level for 2 or more seasons. No? Now, since Umtiti came to Barça, till this present day, while also taking cognizance of his Euro 2016 exploits, you still think he hasn't performed at a high level? Umtiti has been Barça's best defender since his first season. Yes, I said so and will defend it anywhere. Pique is good no doubt, but Umtiti is just a revelation and anyone with eyes would attest to this claim of mine. Infact, it's no rocket science. Every Barça fan knows this.

Now, is Pique not world class? And yet Umtiti is Barça's best defender. That should put things into perspective. Meanwhile, I'll drop a screenshot of Whoscored ratings between Umtiti and Ramos for your kind perusal. It's not all about hype bruv. It's about doing the thing.

BlueAngel444:
Oasis007 is Spy360's intel correct

City in the current first team bought in Pep's time

Bravo - 15m, Sane - 47m, Walker -52m, Danilo - 25m, G. Jesus - 27m,
Gundagun - 30m, Stones - 47m, Eduardo - 35m, B. Silva - 43m

( Mendy - 51m not included is like a player bought but not playing yet Costa and co.)

total - 320m pounds

Man U

Baily - 30m, Mkhi - 30m, Pogba - 90m, Lukaku - 90m, Victor Lindelof - 33m, Matic - 40m

total - 310m Pounds

Both lists have 3 - 4 players with great recognition before their purchase

Kindly refer the Ediot to the Article I culled from the ESPN Site.

The house of pain is in full effect as I can see...let it out people....more tears will ease your pain soon enough....as for the rest of these 3rd, 4th, 5th etc passengers who feel they have a say in the affairs of a club that is currently doing better then theirs I would advise you all to go and sip some tea and read up on the proverb about "not throwing stones when you live in glass houses!" It makes no sense addressing you all...maybe when you move above united we can have a chat then!

Oasis007:



Liverpool is silently building a formidable Team for next Season. Van Dijk will join in January, you and I know he's a top Defender and definitely gonna be an upgrade on all the present Liverpool Defenders.

Kaita will join his Team Mates in the summer, and no doubt he's a talented Lad. A very good Midfielder. If more Additions are made, and Coutinho eventually opts to stay, I fear for United next Season with the current Bricklayers we are parading as Players.

Nope, we have a Manager that has turned his players to bricks in order to form a defensive system that is weak and full of flaws.

nitrogen:


Nope, we have a Manager that has turned his players to bricks in order to form a defensive system that is weak and full of flaws.

Seem the Bricks are made of sand only?!