elampiro:


Let us buy him first.

Why did Mourinho not turn Ronaldo, Di Maria, Ozil and Benzema to left back?

The players you have sometimes determine the style you play.

How are the attacking players he bought at Man Utd faring?

funlord:
"Guardiola's Barcelona were famed for their devastating, possession-based attacking football, but his most significant innovation at the Nou Camp actually concerned their approach without the ball.


Guardiola wanted to increase the speed at which his players regained possession after losing it. He saw it as a way of snuffing out counter-attacks and catching Barcelona's opponents out of position, and his solution was to introduce the six second rule.

The idea was to recover the ball with a six second burst of high-intensity pressing. The nearest Barcelona players were instructed to rush towards the individual in possession, with the rest of the team moving closer together to form a tightly-organised defensive shape.



The technique was designed to close down passing options and force an immediate mistake from the opposition, and in the event that Barcelona failed to win the ball back in six seconds, their compact positioning would make it difficult for the opposition to break them down.

Guardiola used the same approach at Bayern Munich - where he once described defensive organisation as "the cornerstone" of his philosophy "


http://www.skysports.com/football/news/15126/10505903/the-top-five-innovations-of-pep-guardiolas-coaching-career










It's like some of una just display hate filled comments towards the coach in order to appeal to the wack sensibilities of rival fans form other clubs whose own teams are actually doing worse than ours at the moment! Either that or simply just looking for an easy "I told you so" get out of jail card...the term flippant comes to mind! Smh!

When you point it out they term us "real fans" There is no explanation we have not given. Someone said mourinho is my "God".

elampiro:


I saw Mbappe destroying fullbacks in Champions League matches. Who knew Iheanacho, Walcot and Martial? Martial only played in UCL play off (I think).

who knew walcot, guy u funny o. E be like say u just start to watch ball.
Who knew kelechi, I weep.

patrickmuf:
Martial was a first team player for Monaco when they destroyed Arsenal and unluckily lost out to Juventus he was already well known and highly rated...If Martial had remained in Monaco for another season, he'd have been quite easily a 100m player...

Now this is one is a lie. Can you in all honesty compare Martial and Mbappe's breakthrough season? Can you? This is a player that was linked to all the top clubs in the world almost every week for months and now you want to compare with Martial who everyone was questioning the transfer and the sum involved for a relatively unknown player. Baba abeg talk true this one nor follow abeg.

joeace2020:


Has Arsenal, Liverpool not invested in their squad over several years.. tell me what that has gotten them. In fact the Arsenal case is quite obvious and is exactly what investing quality players over squad players can do for you. Was it not when Ozil and Sanchez came in they started winning something again. Saying investment line is ridiculous is naivety of the highest order. We've bought too many average joes since Ferguson. Only with Mourinho have we been getting some players with signs of quality in them. What you are failing to get from my argument because of your Mourinho hatred is that we have spent well but spent on average players. You can only motivate average players the best as you can, they'll still be average. Whether you agree or not, the manager deals with the players everyday and from experience can tell he doesn't have a good enough squad. He has cried out now and the board better listens. Y'all can keep calling him chequebook and whatever narratives makes you exonerate our average squad and put all the blame on Mourinho.

Lemme quickly do. I am amazed you'd even compare Fergies time to now when Liverpool can pay up to 75 mil for a defender. Are you really serious? United and Arsenal were the only teams digging it out for years. We bought players for record sums all through that time, mixing it with talent and youth. The competition among teams wasn't as fierce. The need to outspend Rivals for top quality talent wasn't there. We invested more in our youth team because at the time we could have afford to see young players we bought cheap or came through the academy fail and keep trying. Do you think anyone will have the patience we had with Rashford if he keeps running endlessly as he is doing today or Martial who cuts this frustrated figure when he is responsible for his own mess everytime. Do you think we have the time to waste when City, Chelsea and now Liverpool are going all out for talents out there? Are you so distant from the realities of present day football? Wake up man. This is 2017. If fergie was here, bro he'd spend that money but being a man who saw the future like he always has, he knew it'll tarnish his reputation for bringing through youth if he stayed further and began to rely exclusively on chequebook. Football was going rotten and fergie wasn't gonna be a part of it.

Like i said sometime ago, why not only buy only supremely talented players and groom battle ready home grown talents henceforth, average players like Blind, Herrera and Damian are killing us. Then too old players like Ibrahimovic and Carrick should retire na, for the love of God.

joeace2020:


Now this is one is a lie. Can you in all honesty compare Martial and Mbappe's breakthrough season? Can you? This is a player that was linked to all the top clubs in the world almost every week for months and now you want to compare with Martial who everyone was questioning the transfer and the sum involved for a relatively unknown player. Baba abeg talk true this one nor follow abeg.

SMH

joeace2020:


Has Arsenal, Liverpool not invested in their squad over several years.. tell me what that has gotten them. In fact the Arsenal case is quite obvious and is exactly what investing quality players over squad players can do for you. Was it not when Ozil and Sanchez came in they started winning something again. Saying investment line is ridiculous is naivety of the highest order. We've bought too many average joes since Ferguson. Only with Mourinho have we been getting some players with signs of quality in them. What you are failing to get from my argument because of your Mourinho hatred is that we have spent well but spent on average players. You can only motivate average players the best as you can, they'll still be average. Whether you agree or not, the manager deals with the players everyday and from experience can tell he doesn't have a good enough squad. He has cried out now and the board better listens. Y'all can keep calling him chequebook and whatever narratives makes you exonerate our average squad and put all the blame on Mourinho.

Whose fault that we invested in average players? The coaches ask for players and the club set about purchasing them...Mourinho in his time here has gotten just about all the players he asked for bar Perisic according to available information so what exactly is the fuss about lack of investment? He got Pogba, Mkhitaryan, Bailly, Lukaku, Lindelof, Matic, Ibra (On a free but very high wages)...Pray tell, how many coaches are opportuned to get all of such quality in barely 3 windows? That's more than 300m worth of talent and you want us to sit back and go with his narrative that it's because we're not spending enough? Or just so we're not tagged naive or Mou haters? Hell no, we have spent hugely and that's not taking into context the huge outlay on transfer during the Van Gaal and Moyes Era...
And to correct an impression, I think all top coaches spend heavily thus I'm not one of those who refer to Mou as a cheque book manager but in this instance after spending over 300m on players, your least excuse should be investment related...
The only thing City has over us is a better bench (And you can quite comfortably argue for or against this) and a coach who is more expressive in his approach.

CapitalCee:


Thank you. But is it not even better the board sack mourinho so that we can have peace.

Now my question to you like i pose to every other fan out there is.. Who is the replacement? Who is the manager with the pedigree, winning mentality and prestige to become our manager when we sack Mourinho? This is not in defense of Mourinho but in finding out what truly the Mourinho out brigade want for the team.

Ok we hear. All our players are useless, waste of money, let dem overhaul the team.
Mourinho stay and rebuild for how long you want.

CapitalCee:


Thank you. But is it not even better the board sack mourinho so that we can have peace.

Nobody is even going to sack Jose....all this wailing and gnashing of teeth will end on nairalands pages! The board is looking at the numbers and the log and so far since fergies final season this season is shaping up to be the kind of season we are used to at Manchester united! Blazing through the group stage of the UCL and remaining either top of the log or around the top of the league...With our injuries to key players and the poor form of some other players and some tactical errors by the coach so far why won't we go through a blip? Every team will go through a blip this season including city!


Even madrid that is 4th and almost 17 points behind barca while playing some tepid soccer is still publicly backing zidane.... maybe after january if he is backed in the market and they keep slipping he may be axed but in december? Talk about knee jerk reactions to a bad period of form......Lmao!

Abeg let Mourinho see out his contract and leave. He's poor at building teams and his brand of football doesn't suit Utd. His "philosophy" works very well against teams with blunt attacking forces who want to play. Sadly, United is always expected to win and most average teams will sit back in numbers and attack when they have the chance.

For Mourinho defense comes first. The problem is this is the same philosophy of average teams that come to OT. So how do we expect goals when both teams are doing their best to defend after scoring one 'lucky' goal?


When we played horribly against So'ton the other day and I was raking I was labelled a fake fan. "It's the 3 points that matter", they said. "We are 2nd and only 2 points behind City."

Thing is you won't win many games if you continue playing that way. Look at where we are now. Can the real fans remind me how close we are to the top and how far Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham are behind us?

joeace2020:


Now my question to you like i pose to every other fan out there is.. Who is the replacement? Who is the manager with the pedigree, winning mentality and prestige to become our manager when we sack Mourinho? This is not in defense of Mourinho but in finding out what truly the Mourinho out brigade want for the team.

people plenty wen dey find work, you no just know them.

joeace2020:


Now this is one is a lie. Can you in all honesty compare Martial and Mbappe's breakthrough season? Can you? This is a player that was linked to all the top clubs in the world almost every week for months and now you want to compare with Martial who everyone was questioning the transfer and the sum involved for a relatively unknown player. Baba abeg talk true this one nor follow abeg.

Please tell me what is a lie? That Martial wasn't a first team player?
Someone opined (he wasn't sure) Martial only played the playoffs and I only informed him that Martial was part of the team that reached the Quarter finals losing to Juventus, also pointing out that he was highly rated and that was why we accepted the inclusion of all those Balon d'or clauses in his contract...Please disprove the points highlighted and stop being overly aggressive...

Leyqute:


Fellaini has had a torrid time at United. 70-90% of fans want him off. What else can motivate him to stay?

he has the manager's 100% backing, if that's not enough then he really should feck off.
Better shame go catch me if we bend over to his demands.

PietroRico:
he has the manager's 100% backing, if that's not enough then he really should feck off.
Better shame go catch me if we bend over to his demands.

Which manager? The sore talkative loser?

elampiro:


What have they achieved since SAF left? Struggling to finish 5th under three managers. Is that good enough?

What the fvck are you even saying? List the players that were here during Alex Ferguson's last season and are still here now. Has almost the entire squad not been changed? Who brought in these new players? Is it not the same three useless coaches? 6 of our current first teamers were brought in by Mourinho so what the fvck is the excuse?

You say what have they achieved? what is the use of a manager if they are supposed to achieve by themselves? Haven't you heard that if the head is useless then the entire body will be useless? Brother hear yourself think!!

patrickmuf:
Please tell me what is a lie? That Martial wasn't a first team player?
Someone opined (he wasn't sure) Martial only played the playoffs and I only informed him that Martial was part of the team that reached the Quarter finals losing to Juventus, also pointing out that he was highly rated and that was why we accepted the inclusion of all those Balon d'or clauses in his contract...Please disprove the points highlighted and stop being overly aggressive...

bros, he just want to justify his claim that martial is not up to standard.

patrickmuf:
Whose fault that we invested in average players? The coaches ask for players and the club set about purchasing them...Mourinho in his time here has gotten just about all the players he asked for bar Perisic according to available information so what exactly is the fuss about lack of investment? He got Pogba, Mkhitaryan, Bailly, Lukaku, Lindelof, Matic, Ibra (On a free but very high wages)...Pray tell, how many coaches are opportuned to get all of such quality in barely 3 windows? That's more than 300m worth of talent and you want us to sit back and go with his narrative that it's because we're not spending enough? Or just so we're not tagged naive or Mou haters? Hell no, we have spent hugely and that's not taking into context the huge outlay on transfer during the Van Gaal and Moyes Era...
And to correct an impression, I think all top coaches spend heavily thus I'm not one of those who refer to Mou as a cheque book manager but in this instances after spending over 300m on players, your least excuse should be investment related...
The only thing City has over us is a better bench (And you can quite comfortably argue for or against this) and a coach who is more expressive in his approach.

Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist. Its one thing to spend and another to spend on your set targets. I may not have seen Mourinho's list but i can tell you listening to him say things like "There's a different price for big clubs, big clubs based on their history and there's a different price for other clubs" it was obvious the Man is growing frustrated with the fact he probably didn't get the actual players he set out for in the market. If United had gone for Mendy or Walker or Jesus, Sane, i am sure they would have cost us nothing less than 50 mil each for defenders and more than 80 for attackers. City can pay those or even less because they don't have our history but we have to realize this is the realities of the market so we pay what we have to pay for the best players the manager wants. We Penny pinch and end up paying the amount we could have bought those guys for actual average players. Rival fans can call us any name they want but if we were top of the league with City's point gap todayand have spent a true fortune on quality players to get there then i honestly don't care. But trying to be frugal because of Moyes and LVG and keeping to 3-4 players per window with a budget not above £150 per window, we can only get what we have now. Few mid-quality players bought by Mourinho and not enough to replace or upgrade if they don't deliver

PietroRico:
he has the manager's 100% backing, if that's not enough then he really should feck off.
Better shame go catch me if we bend over to his demands.

FVCK THE MANAGER AND HIS USELESS BACKING.

CapitalCee:


When you point it out they term us "real fans" There is no explanation we have not given. Someone said mourinho is my "God".

But what we have been pointing out is exactly in that article or I no read am well ni? We win the ball too deep and we're even slow allowing the opponents to regroup. We should be trying to win the ball back in the opposition half so our attack can be swift like what happened against Arsenal. The present team is capable of doing this abeg, na just effect of training.

joeace2020:


Is it not funny how supposed fans lap up what United haters say about Mourinho. All of a sudden Mourinho turns everybody to defenders but people have easily forgotten his Madrid and Chelsea First stint team. SMH!

Blame City and Pep, Man U fans believed the 2nd season Mou magic and got their hopes too up.

If Mou was unbeaten and leading in the league, doubt they would complain.

Leyqute:


Which manager? The sore talkative loser?

does he or does he not? No need for off-key yarnings this dry and dusty Harmattan morning

elrony:

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joeace2020:


Now my question to you like i pose to every other fan out there is.. Who is the replacement? Who is the manager with the pedigree, winning mentality and prestige to become our manager when we sack Mourinho? This is not in defense of Mourinho but in finding out what truly the Mourinho out brigade want for the team.

I did not call for the sack of mourinho, people here won't let us to rest after every draw or loss or a one goal difference win or after a win in which Chelsea, Liverpool or even city scored more goals against some opponents than us. The last time Liverpool beat Brighton 4-1 somebody here said "is this not the same Brighton that we beat only 1-0"? So to satisfy the
United "pep fan boys" who see mourinho as a lucifer and destroyer of talents, who dared to ask Mkhi to track back and who has destroyed united by lifting them from Europa league also-rans to winners and then to UCL contenders in 18 months, the board need to sack mourinho and bring a sexy manager who will turn Damian, Blind, Herrera and co to Messi, the noise these few days has been so loud.
My suggestion is, is it not better we stopped buying quality players and bring a manager who by playing tiki taka and producing entertaining draws will turn Mata to a spanish national team captain and Herrera to be named for world cup or for Darmian and blind to qualify their countries to would cup. My brother Sacking Mourinho is an urgent thing that needs to happen, we fans are tired if his pack the bus football versus Burnley, and being 14 points behind city that has garnered 58 out of 60 points and for losing to city who have not beaten us at old Trafford since 1913.

#MourinhoOut. If you argue this point Mourinho is your god.

BlueAngel444:
Blame City and Pep, Man U fans believed the 2nd season Mou magic and got their hopes too up.

If Mou was unbeaten and leading in the league, doubt they would complain.

Bros fvck off to your thread, this discussion doesn't concern you.

CapitalCee:

Like i said sometime ago, why not only buy only supremely talented players and groom battle ready home grown talents henceforth, average players like Blind, Herrera and Damian are killing us. Then too old players like Ibrahimovic and Carrick should retire na, for the love of God.

This i guess was the idea in the first season. With Ibrahimovic, miki, bailly we achieved some stability. Now second season we were to add real talented players and keep the blinds, Herrera as squad options which we seem to have done but not done properly. We needed to sell out at least 4 players from our current squad that looks bloated on paper and get up to 5 players in.. at least 3 of which are real world class talent. We are united, we should act and appear on the pitch as it. I know Mourinho has not done enough on his part but the board also hasn't done enough too. He wouldn't use the press to communicate to the board if something wasn't wrong in the background.

PietroRico:
does he or does he not? No need for off-key yarnings this dry and dusty Harmattan morning

There's no off-key "yarning" as you termed it, here. Mourinho can change his mind any fvcking moment. The guy can develop beefs with any of his players at any time.

CapitalCee:


I did not call for the sack of mourinho, people here won't let us to rest after every draw or loss or a one goal difference win or after a win in which Chelsea, Liverpool or even city scored more goals against some opponents than us. The last time Liverpool beat Brighton 4-1 somebody here said "is this not the same Brighton that we beat only 1-0"? So to satisfy the
United "pep fan boys" who see mourinho as a lucifer and destroyer of talents, who dared to ask Mkhi to track back and who has destroyed united by lifting them from Europa league also-rans to winners and then to UCL contenders in 18 months, the board need to sack mourinho and bring a sexy manager who will turn Damian, Blind, Herrera and co to Messi, the noise these few days has been so loud.
My suggestion is, is it not better we stopped buying quality players and bring a manager who by playing tiki taka and producing entertaining draws will turn Mata to a spanish national team captain and Herrera to be named for world cup or for Darmian and blind to qualify their countries to would cup. My brother Sacking Mourinho is an urgent thing that needs to happen, we fans are tired if his pack the bus football versus Burnley, and being 14 points behind city that has garnered 58 out of 60 points and for losing to city who have not beaten us at old Trafford since 1913.

#MourinhoOut. If you argue this point Mourinho is your god.

You still didn't answer me. I hate Mourinho's football philosophy with a passion. I prefer to force a reaction than wait for one. But my question is considering where we were and were we are now in European football, who is the prime replacement candidate for sacking Mourinho? I need names.

funlord:



Nobody is even going to sack Jose....all this wailing and gnashing of teeth will end on nairalands pages! The board is looking at the numbers and the log and so far since fergies final season this season is shaping up to be the kind of season we are used to at Manchester united! Blazing through the group stage of the UCL and remaining either top of the log or around the top of the league...With our injuries to key players and the poor form of some other players and some tactical errors by the coach so far why won't we go through a blip? Every team will go through a blip this season including city!


Even madrid that is 4th and almost 17 points behind barca while playing some tepid soccer is still publicly backing zidane.... maybe after january if he is backed in the market and they keep slipping he may be axed but in december? Talk about knee jerk reactions to a bad period of form......Lmao!

Baba leave that thing. Mourinho is a useless fuc"k up manager, he packed the bus in our match with fuc*k...ing burnley. Our current crop of players are world class, give pep this our players and he will walk the league and win UCL. Mourinho is a coward. #MourinhoOut

joeace2020:


Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist. Its one thing to spend and another to spend on your set targets. I may not have seen Mourinho's list but i can tell you listening to him say things like "There's a different price for big clubs, big clubs based on their history and there's a different price for other clubs" it was obvious the Man is growing frustrated with the fact he probably didn't get the actual players he set out for in the market. If United had gone for Mendy or Walker or Jesus, Sane, i am sure they would have cost us nothing less than 50 mil each for defenders and more than 80 for attackers. City can pay those or even less because they don't have our history but we have to realize this is the realities of the market so we pay what we have to pay for the best players the manager wants. We Penny pinch and end up paying the amount we could have bought those guys for actual average players. Rival fans can call us any name they want but if we were top of the league with City's point gap todayand have spent a true fortune on quality players to get there then i honestly don't care. But trying to be frugal because of Moyes and LVG and keeping to 3-4 players per window with a budget not above £150 per window, we can only get what we have now. Few mid-quality players bought by Mourinho and not enough to replace or upgrade if they don't deliver

Mou only complained about not getting Perisic and for me, that's not enough for us not to be close to City...Darmian, Blind, Herrera and all the other average players are still here because the manager wants them...When Pep released Sagna, Clichy, Kolarov and Zabaleta, he hadn't gotten their replacements (A big mistake) thus it affected the price clubs quoted for players they were after. Mou should work with Ed to release or sanction their sales if he thinks they aren't good enough...

odizeey:
bros, he just want to justify his claim that martial is not up to standard.

Lol then he failed cos he was definitely highly rated...And talking about Mbappe, for all his brilliance, the current state of the market was a major determinant in the price PSG ended up paying, a price many big teams frowned at...
A pointer? Lemar was priced at about 90m when he isn't as good as Martial.

odizeey:
Ok we hear. All our players are useless, waste of money, let dem overhaul the team.
Mourinho stay and rebuild for how long you want.

The ninja don tire