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Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by Desyner: 11:28am On Dec 29, 2017
teefaht:


Mosques are not being used for business purposes. Imams are not being paid nor generating any revenues. Where would they get the money from? The government should look into this.
They should rather tax the Muslim associations like NASFAT, ANSARUDEEN, MSSN etc
where do they get money to build mosque from?

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Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by holybabayo(m): 11:30am On Dec 29, 2017
Some people say there must be profit before taxes can be charged. That is a layman thinking. When PAYE is charged on salary, what profit do the payers make? There is what is called taxable income. This is simply what is left after some statutory allowances are deducted from the gross income.

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Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by shekauvsbuhari: 11:31am On Dec 29, 2017
FOLYKAZE:


Is Buhari not paying tax too? He earns salary after tax has been deducted.

And where is the evidence that Yusuf medical bill is offset from tax money? You guys just real out garbage from your anu just to prove a point.

On the principle of equity, the Church and Mosque is a business avenue which must be taxed. In UK, churches and religion centres are been taxed. This is because most full term pastors and bishops are been paid salary. The church earn revenue from every possible means. Either by selling religion items or offering money for special prayers. All these are no different from corporate organizations that render services or Industries that sells manufactured products which are taxed.

The Church property like every other Business properties should be taxed. The Sales revenue and Salaries of Pastors should be taxed too. There should no exception because both Church and it operators earn money. There is money flow that is taxable. These pastors or whatever they tag themselves should pay income tax just like every person. And the church which makes money from the congregation should also pay tax just like every other business or institution
petty liar. Churches n mosques are registered as charities in us n uk and they dont pay tax. Their books n spending are however scrutinised by govt. In nigeria, pastors who earn salaries pay income tax and even do contributory pension. And finaly for your info... Land use charge is not tax on your income or profit. It is more like a token you pay on your landed property which is normal globaly. Its being done even in some states in nigeria. Religous bodies pay it.

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Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:31am On Dec 29, 2017
teefaht:


Mosques are not being used for business purposes. Imams are not being paid nor generating any revenues. Where would they get the money from? The government should look into this.
They should rather tax the Muslim associations like NASFAT, ANSARUDEEN, MSSN etc

Mosques collect donations, they sell religious materials. They also have schools sometime inside the mosque or a building beside where student pay school fees. All these must be taxed duly.

Moreso, the mosque should pay property tax.

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Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by Ballmer: 11:32am On Dec 29, 2017
stonemasonn:
How will they calculate the tax for each church/ mosque?
And what about churches/ mosques that don't generate a kobo?

Same way they do to profitable multinational companies and local unproductive n redundant company.
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by jolyment: 11:35am On Dec 29, 2017
Shrines will pay tax too.Herbalists should be included.

Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by lezz(m): 11:35am On Dec 29, 2017
FOLYKAZE:


Where does all the sales proceed of religious item go to? Government?

What of the special prayers fee?

Where does the salaries of the Pastors come from?

What about the offering and tithing plus unverified donations?
If churches and mosque are taxed, then NGOs should be taxed too for they both receive charity and donations voluntarily from individuals.

However any church which has a separate business structure like schools, hostels, hotels or printing press should be taxed on those but never as a church.
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by smulti(m): 11:37am On Dec 29, 2017
stonemasonn:
How will they calculate the tax for each church/ mosque?
And what about churches/ mosques that don't generate a kobo?

when your business is not generating income what do you do ?


close it
.
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by codemaniacs: 11:37am On Dec 29, 2017
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Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:37am On Dec 29, 2017
shekauvsbuhari:
petty liar. Churches n mosques are registered as charities in us n uk and they dont pay tax. Their books n spending are however scrutinised by govt. In nigeria, pastors who earn salaries pay income tax and even do contributory pension. And finaly for your info... Land use charge is not tax on your income or profit. It is more like a token you pay on your landed property which is normal globaly. Its being done even in some states in nigeria. Religous bodies pay it.

Churches and religious organizations are generally exempt from income tax and receive other favorable treatment under the tax law; however, certain income of a church or religious organization may be subject to tax, such as income from an unrelated business.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by smulti(m): 11:39am On Dec 29, 2017
pauljumbo:
The focus is church
The focus is mosque .
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by Xisnin(m): 11:42am On Dec 29, 2017
OversightTM:

And if I may ask what service are you talking about here?
Just ask yourself why people go to church and pay/donate money.
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by shekauvsbuhari: 11:43am On Dec 29, 2017
FOLYKAZE:


Churches and religious organizations are generally exempt from income tax and receive other favorable treatment under the tax law; however, certain income of a church or religious organization may be subject to tax, such as income from an unrelated business.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf
standard practice everywhere. My pastor pays tax on books he writes. However land use charge does not mean that churches will pay tax on profit or income. OP is misleading you guys.
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by smulti(m): 11:43am On Dec 29, 2017
SnakeDoctor011:
Lol, good move! You will see how many of them will close down. Just watch

how can they close down when they are making money.
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by thunderbabs: 11:44am On Dec 29, 2017
Cha cha cha cha and Winners dey insyd Ogun State... Ogun State for dey hammer on Living Faith, Deeper Life Camp, Redemption Camp...chaicheesy
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by Xisnin(m): 11:44am On Dec 29, 2017
palladin:


That's right. But in the case where I gave you some money (freewill), should that money be taxed?

Bottom line is we need to be careful to differentiate what is taxable from what shouldn't be taxed. Taxing free will donations would amount to double taxation

Double taxation means you were taxed twice.

When money leaves your account, it is no longer your
money, so you are not being taxed, the recipient is the
one being taxed.
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by shekauvsbuhari: 11:47am On Dec 29, 2017
john1035:
I support 100% �

Most churches will relocate their headquarters from Lagos inorder to reduce tax burden. MFM, deeperlife, Synagogue, Trem...

But I'm curious, how will the income be determined, because churches won't disclose their income
land use charge is not income tax neither is it tax on profit please. Lagos state govt is not planning to tax churches or mosques. In some state dey call it property rate. A token u pay on laded property. It is not tax as you understand it.
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by OversightTM(m): 11:48am On Dec 29, 2017
Xisnin:
Just ask yourself why people go to church and pay/donate money.
Why do people donate to charity and give alms to beggars freely?
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:48am On Dec 29, 2017
shekauvsbuhari:
standard practice everywhere. My pastor pays tax on books he writes. However land use charge does not mean that churches will pay tax on profit or income. OP is misleading you guys.

Please I need some clarification.

If Nigerian churches make money and pay salaries, why shouldn't the organization as a whole not taxed based on their revenue?

The common ground here is that they earb money.
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by teefaht(f): 11:49am On Dec 29, 2017
Desyner:
where do they get money to build mosque from?
This is like asking someone: where do you get the money to build ur house?
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by rhektor(m): 11:49am On Dec 29, 2017
FOLYKAZE:


Is Buhari not paying tax too? He earns salary after tax has been deducted.

And where is the evidence that Yusuf medical bill is offset from tax money? You guys just real out garbage from your anu just to prove a point.

On the principle of equity, the Church and Mosque is a business avenue which must be taxed. In UK, churches and religion centres are been taxed. This is because most full term pastors and bishops are been paid salary. The church earn revenue from every possible means. Either by selling religion items or offering money for special prayers. All these are no different from corporate organizations that render services or Industries that sells manufactured products which are taxed.

The Church property like every other Business properties should be taxed. The Sales revenue and Salaries of Pastors should be taxed too. There should no exception because both Church and it operators earn money. There is money flow that is taxable. These pastors or whatever they tag themselves should pay income tax just like every person. And the church which makes money from the congregation should also pay tax just like every other business or institution


Buhari don't pay tax, if you any evidence contrary to this let's see it
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by kenkike(m): 11:50am On Dec 29, 2017
Now the tax from the church and mosque is the major cause of the present state of the economy, if the oil proceeds didn't bring development , for the past 30yrs, then send your agents to the alter to collect offerings yet it won't , mosque and church be ready, persecution is here!
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by litaninja(m): 11:51am On Dec 29, 2017
My brother, its too bad that you'll say that.
The president was flown out in the presidential jet, parked at the airport over there for months on end, the crew had to be maintained there as well....does the president pay for the presidential jet and its running expenses from his private coffers?
If his son is flown out in the presidential jet, with it's crew and the retinue of officials that will go along, is the president going to pay from his own wallet.
Make we even forget the actual hospital bills at this point.
Please let's be sincere and objective with ourselves.

FOLYKAZE:


Is Buhari not paying tax too? He earns salary after tax has been deducted.

And where is the evidence that Yusuf medical bill is offset from tax money? You guys just real out garbage from your anu just to prove a point.

On the principle of equity, the Church and Mosque is a business avenue which must be taxed. In UK, churches and religion centres are been taxed. This is because most full term pastors and bishops are been paid salary. The church earn revenue from every possible means. Either by selling religion items or offering money for special prayers. All these are no different from corporate organizations that render services or Industries that sells manufactured products which are taxed.

The Church property like every other Business properties should be taxed. The Sales revenue and Salaries of Pastors should be taxed too. There should no exception because both Church and it operators earn money. There is money flow that is taxable. These pastors or whatever they tag themselves should pay income tax just like every person. And the church which makes money from the congregation should also pay tax just like every other business or institution
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by OversightTM(m): 11:51am On Dec 29, 2017
Xisnin:

Double taxation means you were taxed twice.
When money leaves your account, it is no longer your money, so you are not being taxed, the recipient is the one being taxed.
Dude, you say what?
Double taxation is paying taxes on an income that has been taxed already...
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by arrestdarrester: 11:55am On Dec 29, 2017
FOLYKAZE:


Is Buhari not paying tax too? He earns salary after tax has been deducted.

And where is the evidence that Yusuf medical bill is offset from tax money? You guys just real out garbage from your anu just to prove a point.

On the principle of equity, the Church and Mosque is a business avenue which must be taxed. In UK, churches and religion centres are been taxed. This is because most full term pastors and bishops are been paid salary. The church earn revenue from every possible means. Either by selling religion items or offering money for special prayers. All these are no different from corporate organizations that render services or Industries that sells manufactured products which are taxed.

The Church property like every other Business properties should be taxed. The Sales revenue and Salaries of Pastors should be taxed too. There should no exception because both Church and it operators earn money. There is money flow that is taxable. These pastors or whatever they tag themselves should pay income tax just like every person. And the church which makes money from the congregation should also pay tax just like every other business or institution

You appear ignorant of goings on in the country. Churches are already remitting PAYE to state governments for its full time staff. Its nothing new.

Taxing the Church organization as a profit making entity is extremely wrong. Why then are they in the same category as NGOs who render PAYE to government for its employed staff but are not taxed as a profit making organization? Do mosques and churches keep profit and loss accounts?
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by OversightTM(m): 11:56am On Dec 29, 2017
FOLYKAZE:


Please I need some clarification.

If Nigerian churches make money and pay salaries, why shouldn't the organization as a whole not taxed based on their revenue?

The common ground here is that they earb money.
To the extent where it is ascertained that the church earns income from its activities, then and there will the need arise for such income to be taxed.

But if you keep saying churches earn income and I am wondering in my mind if it's the offerings, tithes and other voluntary donations you have in mind, you obviously need open-mindedness...
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by ginggerxy: 11:59am On Dec 29, 2017
topeayan:
Give Caesar what belong to ceaser I hope the Church will not kick against this
where did get your quote from?
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by Dollyak(f): 12:00pm On Dec 29, 2017
FOLYKAZE:


Is Buhari not paying tax too? He earns salary after tax has been deducted.

And where is the evidence that Yusuf medical bill is offset from tax money? You guys just real out garbage from your anu just to prove a point.

On the principle of equity, the Church and Mosque is a business avenue which must be taxed. In UK, churches and religion centres are been taxed. This is because most full term pastors and bishops are been paid salary. The church earn revenue from every possible means. Either by selling religion items or offering money for special prayers. All these are no different from corporate organizations that render services or Industries that sells manufactured products which are taxed.

The Church property like every other Business properties should be taxed. The Sales revenue and Salaries of Pastors should be taxed too. There should no exception because both Church and it operators earn money. There is money flow that is taxable. These pastors or whatever they tag themselves should pay income tax just like every person. And the church which makes money from the congregation should also pay tax just like every other business or institution
This is incorrect. In UK, Churches and mosques (including other registered charities)are not required to pay tax on donations. As a matter of fact, you can claim an extra 25p for every £1 a tax payer give to the church or mosque.

The whole point is to avoid double taxation as was rightly mentioned by another poster. A better solution is to do what UK does by forcing the churches and mosques to be transparent with their incomes.
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by lkdolz(m): 12:02pm On Dec 29, 2017
How will they taxed Traditionalist, I mean the Iledis, occultic shrines are they not part of worship House. Hypocrites!
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by Xisnin(m): 12:02pm On Dec 29, 2017
OversightTM:

Dude, you say what?

Double taxation is paying taxes on an income that has been taxed already...

Don't try to argue a point you don't understand.
When you donate to a church, it is no longer your money, it is the church's
money, you can't be taxed on a money that isn't yours to begin with.

All income have already been taxed. Even if you work for a company.
The company's customer were taxed before buying their products and that doesn't
exempt your company from being taxed. If you still don't get it, please use google.
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by shekauvsbuhari: 12:02pm On Dec 29, 2017
FOLYKAZE:


Please I need some clarification.

If Nigerian churches make money and pay salaries, why shouldn't the organization as a whole not taxed based on their revenue?

The common ground here is that they earb money.
they are like NGOs n charity organisations. That is how CAC classify them.they are run by donations from people n organisations. From that donation they pay guys that work for them. Rotary club for instance cant pay tax but they pay workers that work for them. If however church sets up a biz like fee-charging school. If de skul makes profit, it will pay tax.if it publishes book for profitable sale,it will pay tax. But that offering n tithe or whatever donation is not taxed bcs its a voluntary donation by people for de running of de charity. It is not classified as biz. U dnt sell prayer or charge fee for church attendance. The law does not see it as biz in the real sense of it. They are organisations that voluntarily help de society though there are abuses here and there.
Re: Churches And Mosques To Pay Tax In Lagos; Land Use Charge To Be Reviewed by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:03pm On Dec 29, 2017
OversightTM:

To the extent where it is ascertained that the church earns income from its activities, then and there will the need arise for such income to be taxed.

But if you keep saying churches earn income and I am wondering in my mind if it's the offerings, tithes and other voluntary donations you have in mind, you obviously need open-mindedness...

Sales of books and religious material can be taxed. Profit are been made in this case.

However, my concern is on offering, tithes and donations. It is a money making scheme for the church and pastors. I believe the salaries and earnings plus allowances come from offering and tithe. Moreso, bulk of this money is spent on the frivolous life of pastors. Because today, we barely see roads or free schools built by church for public consumption. Hence, these inflow does not amount to charity and should be taxed.

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