diggz:


Eph12 is a chronic debtor....he single-handedly shutdown Cobham express with his gbese....kindly find someone better please. And ...I don't want that warri pastor called elrunning either.....he is even worse

No wonder mails are no longer delivered, we need to set up a deabt recovery squad

BlueAngel444:
Man U 2018 is your year of realization.

Man U 2018 is your year of patience and endurance.

Man U 2018 is your year to draw from all your opponents.

Man U 2018 is your year of expensive reinvestments.

Every Mourinho OUT, every Jose OUT, every dablord OUT, every jambody OUT

BlueAngel u are doing the Lords work, KTBFFH

eph12:

Last time I checked those diggz nihilist were jobless available. I say you talk to them first man to man

Sir we were inform u are indebted to our mail company sir?

When we were playing that 343/352 hybrid, the balance looked good.
I dunno why he changed.

And I liked the look of young when he attacked that RW. He just may be a temporary solution to that RW wahala.
He will offer genuine width and he seems to be the only one that knows how to cross in this team

Ibime:


Good point, but Sneijder was never a no 10 in the sense of Ozil and Mata. He was one of a 3 man midfield, robust enough to get involved in the heart of midfield.

It was Ozil experience at RM that changed JM, and he seems to have lost his tactical ethos since then. The fact teams sat back for fear of Ronaldo allowing Real midfield to come closer to each other in the attack is not proof that he can make the 4-2-3-1 work efficiently.

yea I totally agree with you..it was d brilliance of ozil that spoilt mou,I guess he thought all no 10 would b like him..

sinizia:

His excuse is about finance. Pep has spent more than him by 74.8 million pounds. That money in the hands of Mourinho will get maybe a Van Dijk and still the problem is not solved. He can spend all he wants, but if he doesn't find a way to make his signings work, it'll be a waste of money.

That may be true but Pep met KDB, Silva, Aguero and Sterling on ground.

Who did Mourinho meet on ground in that class bracket? Martial arguably.

So just catching up to some of the players Pep met on ground alone will take severe investment.

Not holding brief for JM cos he thought he only needed 4 signings but that is the fact you are not considering.

[quote author=sinizia post=63765411]Let me make my stance clear, I'm no Mourinho hater. I don't want him sacked, if I'd written such in the past it's outta anger after a frustrating match. I prefer the United under Mourinho than that of Gaal or Nwoyes. I still want the club to support him financially so he won't blame them if he doesn't deliver next season. He shouldn't be given a new contract till the team have improved. But, Mourinho should've gotten us playing better than we're currently playing if he knows what he's doing.

How we play will determine how far we'll go in the long run. We've no identity, no plan, no tactics. Nothing. We're everywhere on the pitch but still nowhere. Liverpool has an attacking identity, apart from City, no team in the EPL attacks more than them. The lack of good defenders is their major problem. But with United, you'll be confused on what we're actually playing. We don't defend greatly, we don't attack greatly. So what's Mourinho teaching these lads in training?

I want a good digger to dig up my post before last season, I said my objectives for Mourinho was

1. Get us back into UCL.
2. Make us to play good exciting football that's sorely lacking under LvG.

I never ever demanded the league title from him instantly because I knew this team needed upgrades, but I wanted him to bring a good playing style for us because I'm a firm believer that how you play determines how far we'll go in a season or even in future. Last season beginning , Chelsea were struggling, after losing twice, Conte changed tactics, a tactic that paid off and he stuck with it through out. Lack of continental matches and the fact that his squad were always fresh helped him, but it's a change of tactic, a winning tactic that catalysed that success.

But for a Mourinho, a season and half gone and NO SINGLE TACTIC to win matches from him. He keeps experimenting with formations and players, he's yet to know what works for the team. Young has played a RB, LB, winger. Rashford has played as a LW, RW and even CF. Martial almost the same. Mhikitaryan has been used as an AM, RW, LW, Mourinho has not gotten a solution. Darmian has played both LB and RB. Blind, both CB and LB. There is so much confusion in the squad. Pogba nko?

If he's to praised when we win, why can't we blame him when we lose as well? Man City have a better squad than us, have overthrow years acquired better players than us, but THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND THEM IS GUARDIOLA AND HIS WORKING FORMULA. Anybody saying otherwise is delusional. Stones was great, he got injured and Kompany entered, tge winning run continued. Kompany went out injured, Mangala slotted in effortlessly, tge winning run continued. Mendy injured, Delph takes over, the winning run is safe. Same for Jesus and Aguero. Guandogan, Bernado Silva have slotted in when called upon and the winning is non-stop. So injury or no injury, THE PLAYING PATTERN STAYS THE SAME. That tactic is the main reason they're good coz no matter who plays, he plays the Guardiola way. It's been ingrained in them.

This man has the best winning runs in Spain, Germany and England. It's no coincidence. It's not a fluke. He brings his tactics, get players that adapts to it and wins with it. Mourinho needs a working formula. For now he has none.

His excuse is about finance. Pep has spent more than him by 74.8 million pounds. That money in the hands of Mourinho will get maybe a Van Dijk and still the problem is not solved. He can spend all he wants, but if he doesn't find a way to make his signings work, it'll be a waste of money.

Last season, both Mourinho and Pep didn't have a great EPL season. Pep analysed his team and spent huge money to get THE RIGHT PLAYERS IN POSITIONS HE WANTED BOLSTERED. HE DIDN'T GET ALL HIS TARGETS. Mourinho also analysed his and deemed just 4 positions worthy of bolstering. To the best of our PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, he didn't request for 6 additions and got 3. Unless he wanted more and Ed promised him just 4, then I can't blame Ed. Most of us pointed out we needed a LB, 2 CBs (to partner Bailly since Rojo was injured, Smalling mediocre, and Jones injury prone), RW, DM, CF to replace Ibra and an AM/SS like Griezmann.

With all these glaring defences, Mourinho said we needed just 4 players. But midway into the new season, he's realised what we saw since last season. My questions are

was he blind all this while not to have noticed we needed more than 4 additions?

Didn't he know Ibra was old and finished when he's giving him a new contract at 36 years with an ACL injury? I was among those that wanted him out by all means even if it's through injury.

If he knew Shaw wasn't up to the quality LB he wanted, why go into the season with Young and Darmian as a LB? Why didn't he task Ed for a new LB? Is he suffering from amnesia?

You needed a LW but kept quiet pursuing Perisic all through and only started flirting with Bale before the season started and with no hope of signing him? Why are you still blaming Ed?


Why can't Mourinho for once accept he's at fault for not requesting for more? He openly said he wanted only 4. So how's Ed to be blamed? I'm at lost as to why Mourinho is realising he needs more.

He'd accept his L in peace and find a way to turn things around. I still believe in him, but firstly he needs to accept that things are not going well and his players are playing rubbish. Only when he accepts that, looks deep into finding a solution will he be able to turn things around. Talking about other clubs will not save him. He'd concentrate on his club.

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Ibime:


That may be true but Pep met KDB, Silva, Aguero and Sterling on ground.

Who did Mourinho meet on ground in that class bracket? Martial arguably.

So just catching up to some of the players Pep met on ground alone will take severe investment.

Not holding brief for JM cos he thought he only needed 4 signings but that is the fact you are not considering.

I admitted that City have better players than us. I also admitted that City had gradually invested in better players over the years than us. I'm also aware that my team is not good enough, that's why I didn't set a high expectation for Mourinho. But the playing pattern which was very important to me, Mou had not yet addressed it. We don't play good football. We don't attack or defend well.

Klopp and Pep attacks.
Conte is well known for being defensive minded with his formations.

But with United, we're neither here or there. It's tiring.

Zlatan is out for a Month, Lukaku also is out probably for 6 Weeks, hence United need to sign a Striker in January or James Wilson is drafted into the first Team.

I expect JM to play 3 - 5 - 2 in the next Match. Martial and Rashford to lead the Attack; Mata as a Creator in the Midfield, with Pogba and Matic behind him; Young and Shaw as Wing backs. Then the Trio of Lindelof, Jones and Rojo at the back.

PietroRico:
When we were playing that 343/352 hybrid, the balance looked good.
I dunno why he changed.

I prefer the 352/343 hybrid too especially the 352, and I feel it's system that will work well where we start 3 CBs of Bailly, Jones and either of Smalling or Lindeolf. But for it to work, Valencia must play. We need a defensive wing-back that can attack as wellas defend and Young doesn't cut it in a RB position. If we get Rose or a good LB, 352 will suit us well.

eph12:

Na here we dey o. What we have seen long time ago about the team performance. The spirit, intensity, urgency is lacking until it's obvious the game is slipping away.

If we don't have players good enough to win the likes of City and Chelsea, can they not also win against smaller clubs too? The Jose I know in time past used to be very motivational, his team always want to die on the pitch for him, but it seems he has lost that touch.

If that guy was a NL, he would have been termed a fake fan. I thought those guys at Manchester are very happy with our progress. I mean there's obvious improvement from 6th to 3rd

Na pride kill mourhino

In Australia First half of the man city game will be in played in
2017 and the other in 2018

Neymar1095:
In Australia First half of the man city game will be in played in
2017 and the other in 2018

Twitter lord I greet o.

PietroRico:
As far as I'm concerned, those 2 miscreants are the only fake fans here

lol

Ibime:
From what I saw yesterday, Utd team is split into 2 parts.

In the 4-2-3-1, the distance between the 4-2 and the 3-1 is too great, and there is no cohesion between those 2 halves of the team. It is everything I hate about 4-2-3-1, and we saw these chasms between attack and defence when Jose implemented this system at Chelsea. The team did not move as one unit.

It was basically get the ball to the front 4, they lose it, and then the back 6 are being counterattacked. And repeat cycle.

The whole team needs to move 10 yards further up the pitch to establish proper build-up between the back 6 and the front 4. Fullbacks should be allowed to join the attack, likewise the top 4 need to get involved in the build-up play. It is a feature of a Juan Mata midfield to see this big chasm of space between the 2 base midfielders and the AM. We had that at Chelsea for years. That's a tactical instability that comes with Juan Mata. He should be able to join the midfield 3 and involve himself in build-up play that will allow the rest of the team move 10 yards up the pitch. This is why I prefer 4-3-3 to 4-2-3-1.

Mourinho has never mastered the 4-2-3-1 formation, and I don't see why he is insistent on playing it instead of the 4-3-3 that brought him the most success.

The 4-3-3 will do scummies a hell lot of good.

Matic as the anchor, will sit deep, collecting the ball from his CBs and launching attacks. Whilst Pogba and another B2B player will be involved in the running around, stretching the midfield horizontally and vertically to create options for the pass. They seem to be having hard times dictating the pace of the game of late.

JM has failed in his bid to play to the gallery. He ditched his old system so as to show how much of a flexible gaffer he is, but that seem to be backfiring.

When ure a united fan and ur father tells you "My son,go and get me my dirty drawls from my drawer"

afrodoc2:


Me? i am as fake as you, the true fans wouldn't let me in their club.

I understand their stand that we have to be behind the coach but it's just so hard not to notice the many flaws in the team

Crystal Palace actually are coming at City.
Neymar1095 what do you think?

Look at us.. We now have factions of real fans against the fake fans. Let's just keep failing then so the man can go. This shameless pro and anti-Mourinho should just end jeje so we can have peace. He's the only manager in world football i know that if we were 1st on the log and 20 points clear he'll still be hated with passion even by many of us here and called arrogant and all...Let him just fail and go so maybe the 'i told you so' s' which are at the detriment of the team, arm for the trolls here and shame to the club can end.

diggz:


Eph12 is a chronic debtor....he single-handedly shutdown Cobham express with his gbese....kindly find someone better please. And ...I don't want that warri pastor called elrunning either.....he is even worse

What are you talking about? There must be a thief in your organization. Get an auditor to audit your books, I owe you guys nothing.

Unlimited22:
Crystal Palace actually are coming at City.
Neymar1095 what do you think?

A sheep that wants to grow horns should ask the
ram how its neck feels.

GloryIsaac:



Nah, the real fans said we're winning matches by 4-nil so the tactics and gameplay (master class) isn't bad. Ok

Then they said we're on same points with City, just goal difference. Ok

Then they said December ain't here yet so no need to whyne about City's prowess. Ok

Then they said we were just 2 points below after the Liverpool match, that Anfield is a tough ground bla bla bla (when it was DDG that saved our asses that day). Ok.

Excuses upon excuses while the team went from 2 to 5 to 8 to 11 to 13 to 15 points below City. Maybe if City had spent less, we would have beaten Southampton.

At 15 points below, they said after all we're still 2nd. 6th to 2nd is a massive improvement and we shouldn't bother about the league since City's strolling to it (compare with what was said earlier in the season o).

Then it changed to "Must we win the league this season?"(Assnal mentality stepping in gradually)

Well, by tomorrow it'll probably be 17 points below, this time in 3rd position. Trying to play catchup with Chelsea.

Now the excuse has been updated to 300m is not enough (what happened to the master class?)

Well, winners keep winning. Losers keep giving excuses #Ugly Truth.

NB: Everyone wants the best for the team but always try and accept facts instead of going through unnecessary hell to defend b.s, esp those who specialize in name-calling once another's view doesn't suit yours.... Deluded, Einsteins, fake fans etc.

I go like buy you beer for this post. Well said.

This team is missing something! Ideas.....the fact that some key players in defence midfield and attack are now going to be missing for a while even makes this more vital than it already is!

We will be 3rd for a short while....Jose needs to make those sweeping changes that would encourage those working hard for a chance in the team and actually show those who are under performing that they are not sacred cows. Recall Perreira, play mactominay, gomes and some of the fringe guys more...bring new signings in both attack and the fullback position this january to lift the fans and even the players....even ferguson looked frustrated yesterday...I think he should have a meeting with jose and the team if possible today or tomorrow! Jose has always been hailed by all his ex players/workers as a master motivator so why is he finding it hard to motivate some of these lads to fight for the shirt and points?

joeace2020:
Look at us.. We now have factions of real fans against the fake fans. Let's just keep failing then so the man can go. This shameless pro and anti-Mourinho should just end jeje so we can have peace. He's the only manager in world football i know that if we were 1st on the log and 20 points clear he'll still be hated with passion even by many of us here and called arrogant and all...Let him just fail and go so maybe the 'i told you so' s' which are at the detriment of the team, arm for the trolls here and shame to the club can end.

that’s because if Mou was by chance in Pep’s shoes leading by 15 points he would have been throwing both subtle and direct jabs at his counterparts.
This is why his failures are blown out of proportion.
I can remember a game where Mou stretched out his hands to shake the opposition manager so he can walk into the tunnel when the game still had abt 5mins to go simply because he was already leading by a wide margin and knew he’s winning the game anyway(of course the handshake was ignored on the day). This same Mou was caught whispering to Conte on respect last season after being trashed, tutoring City fans and players on respect this season. The guy is the architect of all these. He is the self acclaimed special one he has to be 10/10 all the time anything less the jury will pounce its that simple.

Crystal palace 2 win or draw

weedtaker:
see as here scatter, shoo.

abeg nothing is wrong with the team, just on a run of fixed draws and poor form alongside injuries to some key players.

man city go lose or draw today, then we shayo dis night till day break, then we trash everton 0-4 and everything go come back to normal.

Happy new year in advance comrades.

Although it is hard to believe any prediction that City will lose, I can't hide my likeness for your kind of mind. All these guys wey dey scatter here with sack sack, na their kind their child go carry 4th position from 1st in previous term, instead of them look at the issue critically, dem go flog bastard from the child head.

In the beginning of the season, my friend has it on record that I told him despite we were first and Chelsea down on the table, Man City and Chelsea were playing better football than us. He was of the the opposite opinion. This team never looked complete to me even when we were winning 4-0, I knew we had to keep players fit and hope for Ibra and Rojo to add positively to the team to be able to compete for the title.

When we were winning 4-0, one thing I noticed. City and Chelsea have players that can hold, drive and dribble with the ball confidently without losing it. Hazard, Moses, William, Kante are very strong on the ball and move fast. City attackers are intelligent dribblers, when you have many dribblers in one team, it is hard to stop them. But United and Tottenham mostly rellied on passing. Tottenham pass faster.

United pass slowly. No one is able to keep the ball strongly while around final third. The two players who are stong on the ball are in the deep - Valencia and Matic. These are the two guys I think are hard to dispossess, but let us not forget Matic is slow. We could add Bailly who plays with so much confidence as another player you cannot be dispossessed no matter how long he stays on the ball.

One of the first solution in this team is to get an attacking player (someone like Neymar) who causes lots of trouble while with the ball. He is not in a hurry to release it, but even in tight zones he is keeping it, playing fast and turning defenders. Martial could have been the one, but he loses the ball too easily or lacks sense of what to do next when closed down.

Ibime:
From what I saw yesterday, Utd team is split into 2 parts.

In the 4-2-3-1, the distance between the 4-2 and the 3-1 is too great, and there is no cohesion between those 2 halves of the team. It is everything I hate about 4-2-3-1, and we saw these chasms between attack and defence when Jose implemented this system at Chelsea. The team did not move as one unit.

It was basically get the ball to the front 4, they lose it, and then the back 6 are being counterattacked. And repeat cycle.

The whole team needs to move 10 yards further up the pitch to establish proper build-up between the back 6 and the front 4. Fullbacks should be allowed to join the attack, likewise the top 4 need to get involved in the build-up play. It is a feature of a Juan Mata midfield to see this big chasm of space between the 2 base midfielders and the AM. We had that at Chelsea for years. That's a tactical instability that comes with Juan Mata. He should be able to join the midfield 3 and involve himself in build-up play that will allow the rest of the team move 10 yards up the pitch. This is why I prefer 4-3-3 to 4-2-3-1.

Mourinho has never mastered the 4-2-3-1 formation, and I don't see why he is insistent on playing it instead of the 4-3-3 that brought him the most success.

Good one