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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by TheKingIsHere: 9:50pm On Jan 21, 2018
Shafiiimran99:
Due 21 v15-17 show that bible support polygamy

One bottle of origin for you
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Lomprico2: 9:50pm On Jan 21, 2018
Pierohandsome:
they were never regarded as wives in the first place. The one recognized as wife is the first one u Married, the other 2 u married after are not wives by scriptures so they are free to re-marry. It is the first wife that is regarded by God as a wife and she cannot re-marry

Abbegii! David nko? It was d stolen wife that later became the main wife.

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 9:50pm On Jan 21, 2018
ozimec:


Your question has been answered but, it seems you prefer argument.
Second or 3rd wife was never recognized as wife rather, as concubine. The bible says the two shall becomes one..not 3 or 4 in Matt. 19:4-5. The reason you have to do restitution is because you were committing adultery and the only mark of true repentance is restitution. Abraham and his children can't be used here as example because they weren't Christians.

How can you restitute without divorcing? grin

This is a honest question... No pun intended
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 9:51pm On Jan 21, 2018
Pierohandsome:
they were never regarded as wives in the first place. The one recognized as wife is the first one u Married, the other 2 u married after are not wives by scriptures so they are free to re-marry. It is the first wife that is regarded by God as a wife and she cannot re-marry

Any scriptural back up, that's what she asked.

Is there any bible verse to back your teachings up
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by micholalo(m): 9:51pm On Jan 21, 2018
all this ur argument ehn. I want to clear something about the topic. if you a theologian, u will know that bro Paul(formerly Saul) married more than 1 wife. (do your findings.)

on the issue of marrying more than one wife.
there are 2 followers of Christ.
1. APOSTLES- they are not allowed to marry more that one wife.
2. DISCIPLES- they are allowed to marry more than a wife( if you have the capacity).

but ppl av mingle the 2 together. you have to know which of the 2 you belong before u can do a restitution on marriage...
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by TheKingIsHere: 9:51pm On Jan 21, 2018
munas:
Since the person has married them before becoming born again,he can keep the two wives.

The only thing is that he will not hold any position like a deacon in the church

Why won't he hold any position in the church? Any scriptural back up to this?
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by lonikit: 9:52pm On Jan 21, 2018
ozimec:


Your question has been answered but, it seems you prefer argument.
Second or 3rd wife was never recognized as wife rather, as concubine. The bible says the two shall becomes one..not 3 or 4 in Matt. 19:4-5. The reason you have to do restitution is because you were committing adultery and the only mark of true repentance is restitution. Abraham and his children can't be used here as example because they weren't Christians.
Rachael wasn't recognized abi?? or why did bible called bathseba Davids wife. pls if u don't hav scriptural backups, dont comment
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Estim07: 9:53pm On Jan 21, 2018
ThinkSmarter:
but abraham, jacob, david, solomon were all polygamous and God never condemned them for that?
What i know is as long some pple want to err, they'll be looking for some legal stuff to back their deed.
(1)1 cor 5:17.... old things have passed away behold all things become new.
If d first Adam(Which represent old covenant) was without defect there won't be a need for a new Adam( CHRIST) (Which represent new covenant)
(2) If u want to go to hell read d bible n twist it to suit urself & if u want to make heaven read d same bible. If u want to know God &d devil read d bible likewise. But read the bible to transform ur life through d inspiration of Holy Spirit.

Do what u want, stop twisting d word of God.
#freetheword

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Shafiiimran99: 9:53pm On Jan 21, 2018
bedspread:
There is no correlation with that..."If " thats man doing.... GOD'S Commandments and rulings come first ...
Read Matt 19:4-9.... that's GOD'S Standard
there is, if not why did God tell those who marry 2 or more wives how to do justice when he simply forbid it.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by tete7000(m): 9:55pm On Jan 21, 2018
lonikit:

shud a born again Christian divorce his wife too??

Are wives married to outside the church recognised by the church? When and where does a Christian marriage takes place should be your first question? Who has the authority to make men and women Christian couples, the custom, the court or the church? If you are able to clear these questions, you might be able to arrive at a conclusion regarding your question. Sorry though, I am not around to answer those question for you.
Your might also ask for more clarification, what is church? What authority does church have in regulating the lives of her members? Is the authority of the church final or can it be questioned?
Wish you best of luck.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by walexbiz(m): 9:55pm On Jan 21, 2018
LadyExcellency:
Should a born again Christian be sleeping with two or three women at will in the name of "legal wives"?

Op, I need answer

If he legally married them why not? Or do our intend to write your own scripture.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 9:56pm On Jan 21, 2018
Those who are designing a new nature for God should prepare to meet Him on the judgement day. My advice is since King David had joy of salvation while living with many wives, we should not let present day philosophy to make us attempt to change God.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Scholar8200(m): 9:56pm On Jan 21, 2018
The Old Testament permitted certain things because of the hardness of their heart. However those things no longer stand under the New testament Matthew 19:8



But do we realise that the very onset of polygamy is adultery? A married man desiring another woman apart from.his wife is?

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Jabioro: 9:57pm On Jan 21, 2018
Even Jesus christ forthers didn't maintain a woman as a wife.Ruth remarry to O..and she is nt d first woman...Solomon their grandfather.Paul Apostle was the one who created the confusion,you he is a feb..there is no scriptual back up..all na wash..how can a true xtian tell me that he/she has nothing to do with old testment,but when they have problem they run to the books of psalms,Ezekiel lsaih and co to fight..using the book of Jobs to consludate the bereaved..Op go aheads with wives is better one wife many secret lovers (bedmate)..ask Lion of Judah and you shall knw better..
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by GreatrAnalyst: 9:58pm On Jan 21, 2018
Processor01:


My brother, please don't get carried away by the traditions of men as is practiced in most Naija churches. On nairaland here, they will try to bully you but I promise you, not one of them have any scriptural backing to prove their so-called 'restitution'.

There simply is no such requirement in the bible nor from God to his people in the new covenant. How many past events in their own lives have they undone?

Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,

The question they should answer is if every Christian back in the days of the apostles had only one wife then why stress the above in 1 Tim 3:2? Don't give into such self-righteousness.


Thanks jare
It is evident in that scriptures that husband having more than a wife was prevalent then, thus a requirement to hold a post was limited to a man having just a wife, but from this scripture and anywhere else, where was it stipulated that a man should send away the rest wives? God of course knows the danger of a man being unable to manage his home very well if he had wives instead of just one, that was why an ideal Christian leader/overseer should be the one having just a wife which by default can control or manage his home well.

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Fundamentalist: 9:58pm On Jan 21, 2018
Pierohandsome:
bro Abraham was not a christian, but a Jew. Christ is our example that is why we are christians. One wife and one husband, any other marriage aside one wife is not recognized by God as marriage but adultery.

Under the old covenant it was permitted but under the new tastament it is only one wife

Even jesus was a jew.

Whcih old testament , think not that I have come to destroy the law or prophet but I have come to fulfil - jesus

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Scholar8200(m): 9:58pm On Jan 21, 2018
Jabioro:
Even Jesus christ forthers didn't maintain a woman as a wife.Ruth remarry to O..and she is nt d first woman...Solomon their grandfather.Paul Apostle was the one who created the confusion,you he is a feb..there is no scriptual back up..all na wash..how can a true xtian tell me that he/she has nothing to do with old testment,but when they have problem they run to the books of psalms,Ezekiel lsaih and co to fight..using the book of Jobs to consludate the bereaved..Op go aheads with wives is better one wife many secret lovers (bedmate)..ask Lion of Judah and you shall knw better..
Ruth's husband had died before she remarried Ruth 1:5
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 10:00pm On Jan 21, 2018
Pierohandsome:
bro Abraham was not a christian, but a Jew. Christ is our example that is why we are christians. One wife and one husband, any other marriage aside one wife is not recognized by God as marriage but adultery.

Under the old covenant it was permitted but under the new tastament it is only one wife
Then you should remain single because Jesus Christ never married
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by LadyExcellency: 10:00pm On Jan 21, 2018
lonikit:

shud a born again Christian divorce his wife too??

walexbiz:


If he legally married them why not? Or do our intend to write your own scripture.

Why did God support Sarah by forcing Abraham to put away Hagai and moreover tagging her a bondwoman?

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 10:01pm On Jan 21, 2018
ThinkSmarter:
u re being brainwashed.
Jacob, david, solomon, abraham all married more than 1 wife and they were main after God's heart.
d issue of 1 wife was a church doctrine.
hv u ever pondered why there re more female kind of all animals including human than d males.?
#think #reason
The names you mentioned have you for once look at the circumstances surrounding their marriage?
Jacob had Rachael in mind but was forced to take Leah.
David and Solomon had many wives yet Solomon said vanity upon vanity all is vanity.
Abraham had Sarah but the circumstances made him to. take Hagar. In spite of that God didn't choose Ishmael but Isaac. That God allowed then doesn't he has now.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by lonikit: 10:01pm On Jan 21, 2018
tete7000:


Are wives married to outside the church recognised by the church? When and where does a Christian marriage takes place should be your first question? Who has the authority to make men and women Christian couples, the custom, the court or the church? If you are able to clear these questions, you might be able to arrive at a conclusion regarding your question. Sorry though, I am not around to answer those question for you.
Your might also ask for more clarification, what is church? What authority does church have in regulating the lives of her members? Is the authority of the church final or can it be questioned?
Wish you best of luck.

church and court wedding are aspect of civilization sir. traditional wedding is the most recognized by bible

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Shafiiimran99: 10:01pm On Jan 21, 2018
asuustrike2009:

If a man have two wives,.... Which is supposed, but not approved of, though permitted because of the hardness of men's hearts; for it was not so from the beginning, when only one man and one woman were created, and joined together in marriage; but as it was connived at, and become customary, a law is made to prevent confusion, and preserve order in families:.Study Matthew 19:1-9 to get a better understanding. Right from the beginning of creation Yahweh didn't approve polygamy. Jesus mads this reference in Gen 1:27,Gen 2:24( God doesn't join a man with several women). It was the hardeness of the heart of the Israelites that was why it was permitted then but not now
He created one man and one woman for reproduction not that man should not marry more than one wife. Moreover, if God does not like polygamy why he forbid it not. Matt that you guys are quotin only talk about important of marriage not polygamy
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Ratugal: 10:01pm On Jan 21, 2018
Read through 1 Timothy chapter 3 you will understand that even in apostle Paul's days polygamy was practiced in the early church. If not, he wouldn't have written to Timothy that a bishop & deacon must be men with one wife. If monogamy was in full practice then, there wouldn't have been any need for such statement. I guess oyibo man carry dem religion & culture join give us jare.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 10:04pm On Jan 21, 2018
Scholar8200:
The Old Testament permitted certain things because of the hardness of their heart. However those things no longer stand under the New testament Matthew 19:8



But do we realise that the very onset of polygamy is adultery? A married man desiring another woman apart from.his wife is?

To be polygamous is far better for a man than marrying a woman while having several concubines outside.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by somehow: 10:04pm On Jan 21, 2018
There is none saying you should marry multiple wives yet none condemned those who did. Or can you show me any scripture that rebuked those that married more than one?

Secondly, did the bible tell you to dirvoce any of your wives if you married more? Show me scriptures!
Actuarydeji:
. Can you show me where it is written in the Bible that we should marry only one wife? Every prophets in the Bible married more than one wife. Can you simply contend the book of Isaiah 4:1?
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by lonikit: 10:05pm On Jan 21, 2018
LadyExcellency:




Why did God support Sarah by forcing Abraham to put away Hagai and moreover tagging her a bondwoman?

she was rude to Sarah sir. besides, Abraham did not marry Haggai legally. let us use the case of Jacob who married the two wives legally

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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 10:06pm On Jan 21, 2018
BabaAgba79:


First, it is a sin to divorce ur wife except on the basis of adultery. Any one that marries more than one wife in the traditional setting has not sinned. If he becomes born again, he cannot separate from the wives. The bible recognizes all the women as wives No place in the Bible tha says anyone who becomes born again shud put away the other wives. Paul only advised both Timothy and Titus that leaders in the church must be husband Of one wife. Which means among the congregation, there can be polygamists. The only thing is dat polygamists shud not be allowed to be leaders or elders in the church. Restitution of things in the bible does not include separating from the other wives. Can they return the virginity and all other copulations? It is knowing more than God himself wen we tell men to divorce the other wives! Other wves are wives and recognized so by God and the bible.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by somehow: 10:06pm On Jan 21, 2018
Are these the only people with one wife in the bible or this is the normal selective justice?
asuustrike2009:

The names you mentioned have you for once look at the circumstances surrounding their marriage?
Jacob had Rachael in mind but was forced to take Leah.
David and Solomon had many wives yet Solomon said vanity upon vanity all is vanity.
Abraham had Sarah but the circumstances made him to. take Hagar. In spite of that God didn't choose Ishmael but Isaac. That God allowed then doesn't he has now.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Toks2008(m): 10:07pm On Jan 21, 2018
Pierohandsome:
Yes, u cannot be marrying 2-3 wives and be sleeping with them and claim to be born again. U must return the last 2 u married and keep the first wife. That is whn u are really born again, not jst returning them, u must be responsible for their upkeep until they re-marry

Can you back this up with the scriptures?
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by TheKingIsHere: 10:09pm On Jan 21, 2018
Estim07:

What i know is as long some pple want to err, they'll be looking for some legal stuff to back their deed.
(1)1 cor 5:17.... old things have passed away behold all things become new.
If d first Adam(Which represent old covenant) was without defect there won't be a need for a new Adam( CHRIST) (Which represent new covenant)
(2) If u want to go to hell read d bible n twist it to suit urself & if u want to make heaven read d same bible. If u want to know God &d devil read d bible likewise. But read the bible to transform ur life through d inspiration of Holy Spirit.

Do what u want, stop twisting d word of God.
#freetheword
You are the one twisting God's word because God never condemned polygamy.

If old things have passed away like you stated, why do you guys refer to the same Old Testament on the issue of tithe?
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by tete7000(m): 10:09pm On Jan 21, 2018
lonikit:


church and court wedding are aspect of civilization sir. traditional wedding is the most recognized by bible


I have told you I am not to be drawn into an argument with you. Are you a Christian, a Church-going one? Is that the position of your church or your personal opinion? If it the position of your church, you don't have any issue here on nairaland, take your case to your pastor. If it is your personal opinion and different from the one your church teaches, quit your church and look for one that suits your sentiment. Finally, if you don't go to Church, find a job, why disturbing those who go and are at peace with their churches' doctrines? They complained to you? Stop being a nuisance on social media.

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