BabaAgba79:


First, it is a sin to divorce ur wife except on the basis of adultery. Any one that marries more than one wife in the traditional setting has not sinned. If he becomes born again, he cannot separate from the wives. The bible recognizes all the women as wives No place in the Bible tha says anyone who becomes born again shud put away the other wives. Paul only advised both Timothy and Titus that leaders in the church must be husband Of one wife. Which means among the congregation, there can be polygamists. The only thing is dat polygamists shud not be allowed to be leaders or elders in the church. Restitution of things in the bible does not include separating from the other wives. Can they return the virginity and all other copulations? It is knowing more than God himself wen we tell men to divorce the other wives! Other wves are wives and recognized so by God and the bible.

LOBATAN! You just saved me the stress of making comments.

Shafiiimran99:
He created one man and one woman for reproduction not that man should not marry more than one wife. Moreover, if God does not like polygamy why he forbid it not. Matt that you guys are quotin only talk about important of marriage not polygamy

The same Matthew was talking of one wife one husband. If it wasn't important Jesus wouldn't have quoted Gen 1:27,Gen 2:24. The Bible is clear on that. Matthew 19:6 say the two shall be one it didn't say the four shall be one.

somehow:
Are these the only people with one wife in the bible or this is the normal selective justice?

These are ones that was lifted for discussion

Scholar8200:
Ruth's husband had died before she remarried Ruth 1:5

Did she remarry a young man or a virgin? But she was recongnized a wife to Obe...

tete7000:



I have told you I am not to be drawn into an argument with you. Are you a Christian, a Church-going one? Is that the position of your church or your personal opinion? If it the position of your church, you don't have any issue here on nairaland, take your case to your pastor. If it is your personal opinion and different from the one your church teaches, quit your church and look for one that suits your sentiment. Finally, if you don't go to Church, find a job, why disturbing those who go and are at peace with their churches' doctrines? They complained to you? Stop being a nuisance on social media.

Mr pope or G.O, why did u put church on ur head nw. has church superseded the bible

Pierohandsome:
they were never regarded as wives in the first place. The one recognized as wife is the first one u Married, the other 2 u married after are not wives by scriptures so they are free to re-marry. It is the first wife that is regarded by God as a wife and she cannot re-marry

To slap you dey hungry me...You are just firming your own opinion with no scriptural back ups.

Where is it written in the Bible pls?

"Restore to me the joy of your salvation" Psalm51:12 KJV. This prayer came when David committed adultery. That means he was having joy of salvation in his polygamous life. You don't have to teach God righteousness. Sentiment will not take you to heaven.

Toks2008:


To slap you dey hungry me...You are just firming your own opinion with no scriptural back ups.

He is just a big fool

lonikit:


she was rude to Sarah sir. besides, Abraham did not marry Haggai legally. let us use the case of Jacob who married the two wives legally

You want to go diplomatic?

Is Rudeness to first wive now biblical reason for divorce according to you?

According to you Hagai is a babymama when in reality Sarah legally gave her to Abraham which he accepted.

Stop cherry picking bible verses.

No Christian is permitted to be sleeping with two or three wives at will with Jesus consent - QED

lonikit:
Please, I want to know because it is practised in many Pentecostal churches. If you marry two or more wives before you got born again, you have to leave one and live with just one. this act of forsaking is known as restitution. I really want to know if this is scriptural.

I am 100% sure you didn't post this to seek knowledge, but to argue scriptures and gain attention.

Ishiusah:
"Restore to me the joy of your salvation" Psalm51:12 KJV. This prayer came when David committed adultery. That means he was having joy of salvation in his polygamous life. You don't have to teach God righteousness. Sentiment will not take you to heaven.

Fool, read what's before and after. Stupid.

asuustrike2009:

The same Matthew was talking of one wife one husband. If it wasn't important Jesus wouldn't have quoted Gen 1:27,Gen 2:24. The Bible is clear on that. Matthew 19:6 say the two shall be one it didn't say the four shall be one.

At Anytime a marriage is consummated,it is between one man and one woman which makes it clear that anytime marriage is mentioned in the bible it reflects one man and one woman but that does not mean a man can not marry 10wives if he wants cos there is no place in the entire bible that calls polygamy a sin.

Adultery and polygamy are totally different.

Encyclopedia1:

He is just a big fool

Habba! E never reach that level nah!

Muslims can defend theirs with their scripture but see Christian scholars ia can't even defend this. O ga ooo......

LadyExcellency:


You want to go diplomatic?

Is Rudeness to first wive now biblical reason for divorce according to you?

According to you Hagai is a babymama when in reality Sarah legally gave her to Abraham which he accepted.

Stop cherry picking bible verses.

No Christian is permitted to be sleeping with two or three wives at will with Jesus consent - QED

if not for rudeness sir, then wht was it?? thesame tin happened to Jacob infact his were even two and God never told him to send them away.

Toks2008:


Habba! E never reach that level nah!

He pass!!!! U can't just "think" and put anything down just to get ur point believed. Can't you go by the scripture? And if nothing de scripture keep ur dirty fingers off the phone. My bro no mind that guy.

Pierohandsome:
Yes, u cannot be marrying 2-3 wives and be sleeping with them and claim to be born again. U must return the last 2 u married and keep the first wife. That is whn u are really born again, not jst returning them, u must be responsible for their upkeep until they re-marry

God hates divorce.

debolayinka:

I am 100% sure you didn't post this to seek knowledge, but to argue scriptures and gain attention.

dont be sure of wht u dont hav proofs. it is bad to read pple's mind

Toks2008:


At Anytime a marriage is consummated,it is between one man and one woman which makes it clear that anytime marriage is mentioned in the bible it reflects one man and one woman but that does not mean a man can not marry 10wives if he wants cos there is no place in the entire bible that calls polygamy a sin.

Adultery and polygamy are totally different.

The word of God is clear on marriage anyone that goes contrary to it has himself or herself to blame. Marry more one wife and end in hell. God was not foolish when he ordained one man one wife

Pierohandsome:
they were never regarded as wives in the first place. The one recognized as wife is the first one u Married, the other 2 u married after are not wives by scriptures so they are free to re-marry. It is the first wife that is regarded by God as a wife and she cannot re-marry

Stop using ur own unguarded philosophy or ideology to evade d question..... is it scriptural? How many wives had Jacob David Solomon..... I guess ur answer will be...old testament but mind u Malachi 3 is also in d Old Testament

lonikit:

Mr pope or G.O, why did u put church on ur head nw. has church superseded the bible

I don't blame you. I rather blame Martin Luther that started this rebellion. He sought to remove the final authority the church has when it comes to interpreting scriptures and place the interpretation at the mouth of every lunatics. It's why we are here. If you attend a church and their interpretation doesn't suit you, quit and look for a favourable one. There are hoardes out there you can chose from, including a church of Satan. Nairaland is not a church, and pronouncements here are not bidding on anyone. Why disturb anyone then, if their opinion won't change churches' doctrine?

Pierohandsome:
bro Abraham was not a christian, but a Jew. Christ is our example that is why we are christians. One wife and one husband, any other marriage aside one wife is not recognized by God as marriage but adultery.

Under the old covenant it was permitted but under the new tastament it is only one wife

Bollinger:


Lol. This guy does not want nor need an answer. He created a thread for the sake of it. Religious nut jobs arguing over a fairy tale book. Crazy people everywhere. The question a normal person should be asking is, what does the law of the land say about marriage and not what a fairy tale book says.

The Op created a thread by asking a simple and harmless question, is restitution biblical?

Abraham wasn't a Christian but, a man God found favour in, had covenant with, promised a child and to be addressed as father of all nation, and today in the bosom of the Lord our God. Is there anytime and anywhere Jesus made mention of Christianity? or Christian as used to refer to the great multitude accompany him where ever he goes? If not for Pagans at Antioch. Does he said his laws or book is for Christians? or did he say he has come to save the Christians or believers?
We call our selves Christians today, how many of us has genuinely heard the voice of God or interacted with the Angel of the Lord as done with the acclaimed Abraham who is not a Christian but a Jew?

Jesus Christ had shown us to be like him, and through his apostles had given us guidelines and principles of how to pursue our heavenly race. Therefore what ever is not mentioned in the bible is left to human judgement of ethics and morality. That is where religion, ethics, morality and logic interwoven.

The bible said don't add or remove a pinch from the prophesy of the bible
Revelation 22: 18- 19.

BROTHER "RESTITUTION" is not in the bible, common sense and morality told us its practice is a sin of FORNICATION.

Brother do not be deceived follow the principle of Jesus Christ as enshrined in the bible and follow ultimately the ten commandments, you pastor, rev., bishop will have little or not to brain watch or twist
I do not support poligamy, divorce, they are all fornication in the sight of God.



So pls, show the op where it is written in the bible curious!

BabaAgba79:


First, it is a sin to divorce ur wife except on the basis of adultery. Any one that marries more than one wife in the traditional setting has not sinned. If he becomes born again, he cannot separate from the wives. The bible recognizes all the women as wives No place in the Bible tha says anyone who becomes born again shud put away the other wives. Paul only advised both Timothy and Titus that leaders in the church must be husband Of one wife. Which means among the congregation, there can be polygamists. The only thing is dat polygamists shud not be allowed to be leaders or elders in the church. Restitution of things in the bible does not include separating from the other wives. Can they return the virginity and all other copulations? It is knowing more than God himself wen we tell men to divorce the other wives! Other wves are wives and recognized so by God and the bible.

You have made a very strong point bro. The same I wanted to point out before reading your post.

Now Our people don't know that when the whites that brought Christianity brot it they brought their culture along. I am sure if the British wore Jalamia traditionally we would have been wearing Jalamia to church but because they came with their suits and trousers every pastor and Christian is in suit to church.

One man one wife is the tradition of the British who brought us Christianity.

Now when Paul was addressing the congregation he said who among you who want to be Bishops or Deacons must be men of one wife.

Common sense should tell us that if A Principal stands in front of the whole Assembly of students and says who among you students that wants to be Prefect must always tuck in your Shirt.

What he means is those of you that don't aspire to be prefects can leave your shirts out of your trousers.

And if he wants all to tuck in. He would have said

Everyone of you must always tuck in your shirts.

There is no place in the entire Bible where the Bibles says polygamy is a sin. No where.

Two shall become one that people quote and refer to is the man and each of the women.

Non of the women came to be joined with any other woman in the first place but the man. So each of them is one with the husband. There is no three or four in this case.

It may sound somehow but its because we have allowed ourselves to be misled by the culture of those that brought us Christianity.

If we say only everything that Jesus did is what we are going to do then non of us should be married because Christ never did.

Peace

Encyclopedia1:


Fool, read what's before and after. Stupid.

wise man are you scared of God's judgement. Continue to feed yourself with sentiment.

asuustrike2009:

The word of God is clear on marriage anyone that goes contrary to it has himself or herself to blame. Marry more one wife and end in hell. God was not foolish when he ordained one man one wife

so david and Jacob are in hell abi??

So you left out others that didn't fit your point? Lol cherry picking to the core.

asuustrike2009:

These are ones that was lifted for discussion

asuustrike2009:

The same Matthew was talking of one wife one husband. If it wasn't important Jesus wouldn't have quoted Gen 1:27,Gen 2:24. The Bible is clear on that. Matthew 19:6 say the two shall be one it didn't say the four shall be one.

They would questioned and challenged Jesus again had it been he talked about polygamy when he said one man one wife cos it would go against their practice

Can you prove this biblically that marrying more than one wife will take you to hell? Meaning all the prophets and men after God's own heart are in hell?

asuustrike2009:

The word of God is clear on marriage anyone that goes contrary to it has himself or herself to blame. Marry more one wife and end in hell. God was not foolish when he ordained one man one wife

ozimec:


Your question has been answered but, it seems you prefer argument.
Second or 3rd wife was never recognized as wife rather, as concubine. The bible says the two shall becomes one..not 3 or 4 in Matt. 19:4-5. The reason you have to do restitution is because you were committing adultery and the only mark of true repentance is restitution. Abraham and his children can't be used here as example because they weren't Christians.

But the bible clearly distinguished between Solomon's wives and concubines. It said Solomon had 700 wives, and 300 concubines, not one wife and 999 concubines. Don't preach assumptions and doctrines of daddy GO

Divorce is against God’s plan for marriage; a sinful divorce cannot correct a sinful second marriage. Rather, we should take Paul’s advice in 1 Corinthians 7:

"Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him." 1 Corinthians 7:20

If you are already married to more than one person then you should stay married to all spouses and seek to live as best you can to honour God and fulfil your duties to your family( no sex). It also means that you cannot recommend this way of life to another believer who is unmarried, or is only married to one person. The pattern of polygamy must stop and not be passed on to children, who might see such advice to be a contradiction. They will need to have the reasoning explained to them carefully. By doing this, you can demonstrate true repentance and be used by God to help others to make good decisions in their lives.

Greyman11:

get the logic, ''BEFORE BEING BORN AGAIN''. Now, what makes u to be so sure that the first one was married before God(wedded in d church). So if he seeked consent of the parents of the other two just like he did for the first one, and the three were not wedded but just performed traditional rites, and they are all married to him and have given him children, what right have u to ask the person to perform marriage restitution, what in heaven's name will make u say that? Or do u think the galatians and the ephisians and the corinthians that were told by paul and d apostles that baptism was just what dey needed to do to enter the sheep fold don't have multiple wives, why were dey not given marriage restitution as an option?? Remain blessed..

Your whole presentation about "wedded in church" is annoying. Where was it commanded that for a marriage to be blessed by God that it has to be in the church? Even when Jesus attended a wedding ceremony where he did his first miracle of turning water to shaqs, there was no mention of him bleshing or praying for their marriage. The singular most important act in a marriage to attract God's approval and blessings is the payment of dowry . Every other thing is jara. Do not let the doctrines of men pervade your thinking.