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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:55am On Jan 25, 2018
Humility017:

your thinking that....in form Orji can only displace an off form Balogun is ridiculous.
if that is all orji can do and where is potentials lies...then he is not good enough for the super eagles...
we need a player who can give the present SE start a good fight...someone who can hide bite to the defense....

I like orji though....but i think it is too hasty to start the call.
if we follow your logic to the letter, then Balogun is not good enough for the Super Eagles. You talk about potential? Well, Balogun will be 30 this year so....

I'm not trying to to trash talk Balogun but I needed to highlight how ridiculous your logic is. For what it's worth, a guy like Orji should be taken in to the Super Eagles for the friendlies. His form so far have deserved the look in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:56am On Jan 25, 2018
Humility017:

your thinking that....in form Orji can only displace an off form Balogun is ridiculous.
if that is all orji can do and where is potentials lies...then he is not good enough for the super eagles...
we need a player who can give the present SE start a good fight...someone who can hide bite to the defense....

I like orji though....but i think it is too hasty to start the call.
Yes too late for players like Orji in the main team preparing for WC except Rohr takes interest which i doubt but Salisu need to be blamed for not discovering talents that are abound in the league early enough for Rohr to polish,may be some of these boys would have been in Europe by now and useful for Eagles.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:02am On Jan 25, 2018
safarigirl:
thank God Rohr is not so gullible

Na so Keshi carry Uzoenyi go Brazil go open him yansh there, abi na Egwueke? What became of those players? Once bitten twice shy, an off form Balogun is better than those NPFL guys abeg

that keshi team selection was something else....
and to think a goalkeeper like agbim and G. Reuben who only manage 270 mins of football for his club side made the list still baffles me....

keshi had luck working for him but his team selection never help matters....
Rohr is watching I trust his judgement...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:03am On Jan 25, 2018
Humility017:


how about against the USA and Greece...

nobody is downplaying home based players.... but sayn orji should replace balogun is funny

They drew goalless against Greece and lost to USA. Going by their performance, I would think they were quite formidable, moreso than you were trying to paint them against non African oppositions.

Can you honestly in good conscience tell me why you think Orji doesn't deserve to make it to the pre world cup friendlies?

If you can't give a valid reason why he shouldn't, then I would be correct to say youre "downplaying home based players".
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:08am On Jan 25, 2018
Kog45:
Yes too late for players like Orji in the main team preparing for WC but Salisu need to be blamed for not discovering talents that are abound in the league early enough for Rohr to polish,may be some of these boys would have been in Europe by now and useful for Eagles.
yeah...you're right
I am not really pleased wit salisu that much reason because he is not a risk taker....
I expect him to have take time harness the npfl league to draft in young and promising players....into his team....by so doing that will yield great results in the Long run..
as this players will grow to maturity on and off the field..

the ideye, elderson we know today all started from the NPFL...it was a bit easyfor them reason because they were discovered early

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:09am On Jan 25, 2018
Top Tackler Arsenal Vs Chelsea? Not Kante, Koscielny, Mustafi, Bakayoko But Iwobi


Alex Iwobi excelled defensively and offensively in Arsenal's 2-1 win over Chelsea in the semifinal of the League Cup, so much so that he was rated the best player on the Emirates Stadium in one very important statistic.

The Hale End Academy product had a game-high five tackles, one more than Laurent Koscielny and Tiemoué Bakayoko, who both finished the game with four tackles each.

Bringing those stats to life, Iwobi has averaged less than one tackle per game in the Premier League this season, with 13 tackles in 14 appearances.

The Nigeria international outshone Chelsea's top tackler in the Premier League N'Golo Kanté, who made zero tackles but the Frenchman still highlighted his defensive qualities in the center with a game-high seven interceptions.

Iwobi managed a total of two interceptions and one clearance, and had a passing accuracy of 76.8 percent.
Arsenal have faced Chelsea five times this season in all competitions, with the Gunners number seventeen starting all but one of the games.


**Ifeanyi Emmanuel



Source: http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=26320

Russia 2018 WC countdown: 140 days to go

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:10am On Jan 25, 2018
Kog45:
That's why i said only Keshi can do that not Rohr but i thought Uchebo or Nwofor are better than Ideye?

Uche Nwofor more than deserved to be in that team. I can't say same for Okechukwu Uchebo, Gabriel Reuben and Chigozie Agbim
.

Not just for that WC alone, the idea of Keeping 7 slots for home based players in the squad was not just acceptable to me. Select the best rather than keeping quotas.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:12am On Jan 25, 2018
goldfish80:


They drew goalless against Greece and lost to USA. Going by their performance, I would think they were quite formidable, moreso than you were trying to paint them against non African oppositions.

Can you honestly in good conscience tell me why you think Orji doesn't deserve to make it to the pre world cup friendlies?

If you can't give a valid reason why he shouldn't, then I would be correct to say youre "downplaying home based players".

it is too early to call....let them play more matches first...
I remember rohr drafting aremu into his provisonal team in our WCQ match after the wafu cup tourney....

because he was impressed wit his performance after the tourney...same way he is watching...

so let's still watch them play....we have all praised the defense to be very outstanding thus far.....because to me ezenwa has not really been tested..
but let's see how well they play in the Quarter finals....because we starting calling for Mr A or Mr B
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:13am On Jan 25, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Top Tackler Arsenal Vs Chelsea? Not Kante, Koscielny, Mustafi, Bakayoko But Iwobi


Alex Iwobi excelled defensively and offensively in Arsenal's 2-1 win over Chelsea in the semifinal of the League Cup, so much so that he was rated the best player on the Emirates Stadium in one very important statistic.

The Hale End Academy product had a game-high five tackles, one more than Laurent Koscielny and Tiemoué Bakayoko, who both finished the game with four tackles each.

Bringing those stats to life, Iwobi has averaged less than one tackle per game in the Premier League this season, with 13 tackles in 14 appearances.

The Nigeria international outshone Chelsea's top tackler in the Premier League N'Golo Kanté, who made zero tackles but the Frenchman still highlighted his defensive qualities in the center with a game-high seven interceptions.

Iwobi managed a total of two interceptions and one clearance, and had a passing accuracy of 76.8 percent.
Arsenal have faced Chelsea five times this season in all competitions, with the Gunners number seventeen starting all but one of the games.


**Ifeanyi Emmanuel



Source: http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=26320

Russia 2018 WC countdown: 140 days to go

Form is temporary but Class is permanent.

Iwobi is a big game player. He has underlined that again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:13am On Jan 25, 2018
safarigirl:
thank God Rohr is not so gullible

Na so Keshi carry Uzoenyi go Brazil go open him yansh there, abi na Egwueke? What became of those players? Once bitten twice shy, an off form Balogun is better than those NPFL guys abeg

Isn't it ironic that those Egwueke's and Uzoenyi s have an Afcon medal around their necks and equalled Nigerians best outing at the world cup.
Guus like Victor Moses and Mikel were our biggest flops at the world cup not Uzoenyi and Egwueke.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:20am On Jan 25, 2018
Humility017:


that keshi team selection was something else....
and to think a goalkeeper like agbim and G. Reuben who only manage 270 mins of football for his club side made the list still baffles me....

keshi had luck working for him but his team selection never help matters....
Rohr is watching I trust his judgement...
Pls let's respect Keshi decision though some are questionable.

Pls tell me the difference between Ezenwa and Agbim.

Oh Reuben Gabriel making 2014 WC wasn't a surprised to me cos Keshi's boss Westerhoff had some of them unattached at US 94.

Despite this Keshi won Afcon and reached WC 2nd round,hope Rohr achieve similar feat and better our 2nd round WC record.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:22am On Jan 25, 2018
Icon4s:


Uche Nwofor more than deserved to be in that team. I can't say same for Okechukwu Uchebo, Gabriel Reuben and Chigozie Agbim
.

Not just for that WC alone, the idea of Keeping 7 slots for home based players in the squad was not just acceptable to me. Select the best rather than keeping quotas.
7 slots for home based players?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:33am On Jan 25, 2018
Kog45:
Pls let's respect Keshi decision though some are questionable.

Pls tell me the difference between Ezenwa and Agbim.

Oh Reuben Gabriel making 2014 WC wasn't a surprised to me cos Keshi's boss Westerhoff had some of them unattached at US 94.

Despite this Keshi won Afcon and reached WC 2nd round,hope Rohr achieve similar feat and better our 2nd round WC record.
c'mon why compare agbim wit ezenwa...
it's like you never watched Nigeria CHAN play against Mali, Mozambique and South Africa...I think he only did well against south Africa...
against Morocco too...his basket qualites was made manifest....

ezenwa is far better than agbim...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:34am On Jan 25, 2018
On orjis case....if he maintains is form uphill d last stage hopefully(finals),den I feel d coaching crew shld give him a look in for d final pre-30man list?and who says he can't excel with d senior boys and make it to d final 23man list...I av read some news hear about rohr looking for ball playing defenders...orji is one.
BTW... because d likes of uzoenyi,egweke failed, doesn't translate to every oda player representing us at feature world cups too would fail na cheesy


Let's put sentiment asyde,DT orji guy dey ball well,it could now b due to d opposition he is facing at d moment for having such a calming confidence, dt I can't say wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:35am On Jan 25, 2018
Kog45:
7 slots for home based players?
sir...didn't you remember the confederations cup where the super eagles was filled wit home based players?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 10:35am On Jan 25, 2018
Icon4s:


Uche Nwofor more than deserved to be in that team. I can't say same for Okechukwu Uchebo, Gabriel Reuben and Chigozie Agbim
.

Not just for that WC alone, the idea of Keeping 7 slots for home based players in the squad was not just acceptable to me. Select the best rather than keeping quotas.

I 100% believe Nwofor did not deserve to be in the team. This is based on game stats in the year/years just prior to the world cup and his exposure and perceived ability by fans and opponents likewise. His selection though was less scandalous than that of Uchebo, Gabriel Ruben and Agbim.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:36am On Jan 25, 2018
goldfish80:


Isn't it ironic that those Egwueke's and Uzoenyi s have an Afcon medal around their necks and equalled Nigerians best outing at the world cup.
Guus like Victor Moses and Mikel were our biggest flops at the world cup not Uzoenyi and Egwueke.
they got medals by sitting on the bench. It is a case of right place and right time.

They did not equal anything because once again, they added nothing to the team. Your biggest flop at the World Cup was Yobo, remember that. Amongst the other flops of course

We want a team that performs generally, so that if Mikel and Moses flop, we see who we can get from the bench. Uzoenyi and Egwueke are part of your bench that flopped because they were all useless

We will not take another useless bench of flops to the World Cup just to promote one failing league that is not even good enough to be listed on any football site.

If you think any of those CHAN guys can displace anyone in our current team, then your sentiments are beclouding your reasoning obviously, either that, or you are desperately looking for an argument

BTW, why did you avoid where I quoted you with the possible replacements for Balogun? Abi you did not see the mebtion, but you saw where I mentioned someone else?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:39am On Jan 25, 2018
goldfish80:


Isn't it ironic that those Egwueke's and Uzoenyi s have an Afcon medal around their necks and equalled Nigerians best outing at the world cup.
Guus like Victor Moses and Mikel were our biggest flops at the world cup not Uzoenyi and Egwueke.
and that free kick he played...I think against Iran was world class abi?
for a player that had a regular play season in the npfl to go the world cup...and play that rubbish was disastrous. for mikel and Moses it was understandable because they barely played that season in the epl
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:42am On Jan 25, 2018
Humility017:

and that free kick he played...I think against Iran was world class abi?
for a player that have a regular play season in the npfl to go the world cup...and play that rubbish was disastrous. for mikel and Moses it was understandable because they barely played that season in the epl
just leave Goldfish, he dey find talk
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:45am On Jan 25, 2018
The CHAN tourney is just like disarming the strong men and arming the weak men and asking them to fight.

Nigeria remains the only West African team left in the tournament. West Africa has the highest export of quality players to other parts of the world. So it is no surprise that they have presented poor teams in this tournament.

Imagine a team like Namibia beating Ivory Coast, Rwanda drawing with Nigeria, Cameroon cannot win a single game in a group that has Congo, Angola and Burkina Faso. Ghanaian, Senegalese, and Malian teams even crashed out in the qualifiers

Now, the problem is this CHAN has been awarded a ranking point of 3 which is exactly same as that of the regular AFCON. This is a serious dis-service as so many weak teams would gain points and become highly ranked. While the real heavy weights themselves especially those from West Africa will really lose ranking points.

The rankings would become pseudo. When you see teams like Namibia, Libya, Angola, Congo and Sudan really limping over some heavy weights you understand what I am talking about.

Many pages back we were talking about how Nigeria can move to top 10 in the World. But with a tournament like CHAN it is not likely that any African team can make it because with this kind of tournament, the heavy weights will continue to struggle. For eg we have lost about 30 ranking points already with that draw with Rwanda.

You don't gain or lose any points for not participating in this CHAN tournament.
Egypt does not take part in CHAN. Could that be a smart decision?

This CHAN tournament. I am still scratching my head.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:46am On Jan 25, 2018
Kog45:
7 slots for home based players?
YES.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:47am On Jan 25, 2018
Icon4s:
The CHAN tourney is just like disarming the strong men and arming the weak men and asking them to fight.

Nigeria remains the only West African team left in the tournament. West Africa has the highest export of quality players to other parts of the world. So it is no surprise that they have presented poor teams in this tournament.

Imagine a team like Namibia beating Ivory Coast, Rwanda drawing with Nigeria, Cameroon cannot win a single game in a group that has Congo, Angola and Burkina Faso. Ghanaian, Senegalese, and Malian teams even crashed out in the qualifiers

Now, the problem is this CHAN has been awarded a ranking point of 3 which is exactly same as that of the regular AFCON. This is a serious dis-service as so many weak teams would gain points and become highly ranked. While the real heavy weights themselves especially those from West Africa will really lose ranking points.

The rankings would become pseudo. When you see teams like Namibia, Libya, Angola, Congo and Sudan really limping over some heavy weights you understand what I am talking about.

Many pages back we were talking about how Nigeria can move to top 10 in the World. But with a tournament like CHAN it is not likely that any African team can make it because with this kind of tournament, the heavy weights will continue to struggle. For eg we have lost about 30 ranking points already with that draw with Rwanda.

You don't gain or lose any points for not participating in this CHAN tournament.
Egypt does not take part in CHAN. Could that be a smart decision?

This CHAN tournament. I am still scratching my head.
Egypt is filled with wise people. Nigeria is filled with greedy people who want to collect CHAN logistics money

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by congo4ka: 10:48am On Jan 25, 2018
safarigirl:
just leave Goldfish, he dey find talk

Safariwoman, how are you my heart? kiss

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:54am On Jan 25, 2018
wayodude:


I 100% believe Nwofor did not deserve to be in the team. This is based on game stats in the year/years just prior to the world cup and his exposure and perceived ability by fans and opponents likewise. His selection though was less scandalous than that of Uchebo, Gabriel Ruben and Agbim.

Uche Nwofor was the new kid in the block in the year leading to the World Cup.

He was banging in goals at VV Venlo. In only his second game for the Eagles against SA at the Nelson Mandela Challenge, you have forgotten the brace he scored? One was even a back heel. He was even a second half substitute.

He was our hottest striker at the 2011 AYC and WYC.

As at that Time leading to the World cup he was highly rated as he showed great quality.
He more than deserved to be in that team. If you say he later failed to leave up to expectations I will 100% agree.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:57am On Jan 25, 2018
Icon4s:


Uche Nwofor was the new kid in the block in the year leading to the World Cup.

He was banging in goals at VV Venlo. In only his second game for the Eagles against SA at the Nelson Mandela Challenge, you have forgotten the brace he scored? One was even a back heel. He was even a second half substitute.

He was our hottest striker at the 2011 AYC and WYC.

As at that Time leading to the World cup he was highly rated as he showed great quality.
He more than deserved to be in that team. If you say he later failed to leave up to expectations I will 100% agree.
likewise imoh Ezekiel...who bagged in 12 gaols in the Belgian league...

how uchebo who had just 5 goals for club d brugg made the list in place of Ezekiel still a mystery to me

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:00am On Jan 25, 2018
safarigirl:
Egypt is filled with wise people. Nigeria is filled with greedy people who want to collect CHAN logistics money

My Sister.

A team like Sudan will win CHAN now and they move to top 4 in Africa. When CAF are seeding for any competition they will seed them when in reality they are no where near.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:06am On Jan 25, 2018
Humility017:

likewise imoh Ezekiel...who bagged in 12 gaols in the Belgian league...

how uchebo who had just 5 goals for club d brugg made the list in place of Ezekiel still a mystery to me

Firstly Nwofor scored more goals than Ezekiel that season.

Nwofor is a natural CF while Ezekiel plays more from the wings and some times as an SS.

We needed a back up striker more. So Nwofor it was.

We had Musa, Moses and Osaze who all play from the wings. Ezekiel was not at par with those players.

Uchebo plays more from a central position so he was not directly in contention with Ezekiel.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:06am On Jan 25, 2018
Humility017:

sir...didn't you remember the confederations cup where the super eagles was filled wit home based players?
I can't really remember but it seems some foreign players didn't make the trip due to injuries.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:08am On Jan 25, 2018
Humility017:

likewise imoh Ezekiel...who bagged in 12 gaols in the Belgian league...

how uchebo who had just 5 goals for club d brugg made the list in place of Ezekiel still a mystery to me
Mystery when majority of the fans were shouting new Kanu Nwankwo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:09am On Jan 25, 2018
Kog45:
I can't really remember but it seems some foreign players didn't make the trip due to injuries.


But boss u can remember players who represented us at MAROC 88 grin, Kwantinue grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:11am On Jan 25, 2018
Icon4s:


YES.
OK o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by congo4ka: 11:11am On Jan 25, 2018
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