randomperson:


Bayern were struggling in the league and then they lost to psg in the cl.... That's why he was sacked.... Heyneckes, the treble winning coach didn't win the league every time... Guardiola sucked the life out of the league- they were winning the league with a lot of games still to play

And remember, ancelloti didn't make semis in last years cl. If it was guardiola now, we wouldn't hear word

Winning that league counts for nothing that why he is really appreciated over there. Ancelotti would have qualified them but he lost the dressing room and the club had a choice to make, coach or players and there's always gonna be one winner here.

patrickmuf:
Pep took a year off but has spent more if not as much as Mourinho who has been in the game much longer...

This same narrative?

Mourinho had the most expensive team last season and still came sixth

randomperson:


This same narrative?

Mourinho had the most expensive team last season and still came sixth

He bought at the players? How about he won 3 trophies?
Pep out spent everybody but went the season trophyless...

randomperson:


I'm not jumping, am using my common sense like every other rational human being...

It's foolhardiness to insist that a million pounds today is the same value as a million pounds 15 years ago...

Ronaldo was bought for 80million in 2009, what would be the value of that deal in today's transfer market? That's how reasonable people think not adding raw numbers like clueless nursery school students

Maybe you should ask RM how much they are ready to sell Ronaldo to know the value in today's market

eph12:

Maybe you should ask RM how much they are ready to sell Ronaldo to know the value in today's market

Don't mind him, trying to score points where none exist...

eph12:

How we rate who is better when he has not actually bettered anything unless that in your imagination? Just a couple of months Madrid was adjudged to be better than every other team, and most likely to bully barca this season. Reality has set in and now the case is different. Pep may equal that trophy haul but for now he should take a sit please. Jose last won the champions league in 2010 while Pep in 2011 and you are here disturbing me about some local competition.

See the person saying local competition, u were the same person hailing Mourinho for his capital one cup and community shield...

This hypocrisy has levelss....

When u want to show that pogba is good, u would say he has had the highest assists in these number of minutes as opposed to de Bruyne but when it comes to guardiola, suddenly, the amount of time taken to do something doesn't matter anymore... Mad people

randomperson:


Why bar madrid? Why? So we should just ignore mourinho's biggest failure?

The fact is that guardiola has not tried to coach small teams and failed, so arguing from non existent circumstances...

Both of them have attempted roles in big clubs and guardiola did better by far

Let's not ignore the fact that Pep has tried to equal Jose's record number of trophies and failed so far

patrickmuf:
He bought at the players? How about he won 3 trophies?
Pep out spent everybody but went the season trophyless...

Mourinho has gone trophyless more times than guardiola... Please say another thing

randomperson:


See the person saying local competition, u were the same person hailing Mourinho for his capital one cup and community shield...

This hypocrisy has levelss....

When u want to show that pogba is good, u would say he has had the highest assists in these number of minutes as opposed to de Bruyne but when it comes to guardiola, suddenly, the amount of time taken to do something doesn't matter anymore... Mad people

Pep couldn't win the local trophies. The holy grail still remains the UCL until then, Mourinho is bossing Pep in the trophy count...

eph12:

Let's not ignore the fact that Pep has tried to equal Jose's record number of trophies and failed so far

He's trailing Mourinho by three and he did it in half the time... *superiority*

randomperson:


See the person saying local competition, u were the same person hailing Mourinho for his capital one cup and community shield...

This hypocrisy has levelss....

When u want to show that pogba is good, u would say he has had the highest assists in these number of minutes as opposed to de Bruyne but when it comes to guardiola, suddenly, the amount of time taken to do something doesn't matter anymore... Mad people

That I hailed the win doesn't mean it's not local. You should ask your oga dayo to explain how this local thing works.

Are we permitted to also consider the amount spent in relation to the number of years as a coach?

randomperson:


Mourinho has gone trophyless more times than guardiola... Please say another thing

He didn't go trophyless last season tho!

eph12:

That I hailed the win doesn't mean it's not local. You should ask your oga dayo to explain how this local thing works.

Are we permitted to also consider the amount spent in relation to the number of years as a coach?

If he accepts, I'll be shocked...

Cc: randomperson

randomperson:


He's trailing Mourinho by three and he did it in half the time... *superiority*

Sam Allardyce would too with the kind of cash available in that half time... *use your brain*

patrickmuf:
Pep couldn't win the local trophies. The holy grail still remains the UCL until then, Mourinho is bossing Pep in the trophy count...

Simple maths... 22/18= 1.22

19/9= 2.11...

Ergo, pep is winning trophies at a faster rate than Mourinho. In fact, at almost twice the rate

randomperson:


Simple maths... 22/18= 1.22

19/9= 2.11...

Ergo, pep is winning trophies at a faster rate than Mourinho. In fact, at almost twice the rate

Is he spending more per trophy won? Don't be a coward, take up the challenge...

You'll use your hand to kill yourself.

eph12:

That I hailed the win doesn't mean it's not local. You should ask your oga dayo to explain how this local thing works.

Are we permitted to also consider the amount spent in relation to the number of years as a coach?

Yes, of course....

If u can ascertain the values of past transfers in today's market

randomperson:


Mourinho has gone trophyless more times than guardiola... Please say another thing

Mourinho would have won more trophies if he had gone to bayern or psg. Pep left barca and they are still doing very fine. They won the treble with a coach that is still not rated till today.

randomperson:


Yes, of course....

If u can ascertain the values of past transfers in today's market

I see you could ascertain the quality each manager came up against...Your hypocrisy stinks, wear a perfume on it.

patrickmuf:
Is he spending more per trophy won? Don't be a coward, take up the challenge...

You'll use your hand to kill yourself.

Do the calculation, ascertain the value of past transfers in today's market... U can derive a formula if u want to

randomperson:


Do the calculation, ascertain the value of past transfers in today's market... U can derive a formula if u want to

He has outspent Mourinho despite only being in the game for 10 9 years...Cheque book manager...

randomperson:


Yes, of course....

If u can ascertain the values of past transfers in today's market

What are you talking about? What is there to ascertain? Maybe we should also ascertain if trophies won then are of same value as today

eph12:

What are you talking about? What is there to ascertain? Maybe we should also ascertain if trophies won then are of same value as today

The guy just dey misyarn anyhow...

eph12:

Mourinho would have won more trophies if he had gone to bayern or psg. Pep left barca and they are still doing very fine. They won the treble with a coach that is still not rated till today.

Pep spent four years in Barca, in the next four years they have had three managers...

Pep won two ucl titles for Barca, five years later, they have only won one.

Mourinho spent three years at Madrid, no champions league, four years later they have won three.


Spot the difference

eph12:

What are you talking about? What is there to ascertain? Maybe we should also ascertain if trophies won then are of same value as today

Guy, this is really straightforward now... Transfer fees are more expensive these days...

Even in ordinary economic life, there is inflation not to talk of in football...

Neymar was sold for over 200million, if it was 2004, it would have been less than 70. That's like 1/3 of the price...


Is it that man utd fans are not good at maths or u people are deliberately being obtuse

randomperson:



Pep spent four years in Barca, in the next four years they have had three managers...

Pep won two ucl titles for Barca, five years later, they have only won one.

Mourinho spent three years at Madrid, no champions league, four years later they have won three.


Spot the difference

Hypocrisy again...Mourinho won the UCL wit Inter in 2010 after 50 years, 8 years later, they can't even make the group stage of the competition.

He won it with Porto in 2004, 14 years later? Nothing...Juup won the treble with Bayern, 3 years after the failed management of Pep, nothing to show for it...

randomperson:


Guy, this is really straightforward now... Transfer fees are more expensive these days...

Even in ordinary economic life, there is inflation not to talk of in football...

Neymar was sold for over 200million, if it was 2004, it would have been less than 70. That's like 1/3 of the price...


Is it that man utd fans are not good at maths or u people are deliberately being obtuse

Clutching at straws, the competition then was greater, it was more difficult to win as you had more worthy challengers...

Talking about inflation, 60-70 in 2004 is equivalent to the fee quoted for Neymar now...You shout inflation upandan like you know how it works...

patrickmuf:
Hypocrisy again...Mourinho won the UCL wit Inter in 2010 after 50 years, 8 years later, they can't even make the group stage of the competition.

He won it with Porto in 2004, 14 years later? Nothing...Juup won the treble with Bayern, 3 years after the failed management of Pep, nothing to show for it...

Exactly my point, Mourinho is a small team manager. He should be dragging with tony Pulis, pardew, allerdyce and co...

He should leave the elite clubs for pep, and he should concentrate on inter and Porto, because when he tries to reach above his class, he always falls short..

randomperson:



Pep spent four years in Barca, in the next four years they have had three managers...

Pep won two ucl titles for Barca, five years later, they have only won one.

Mourinho spent three years at Madrid, no champions league, four years later they have won three.


Spot the difference

Lol.. How many has Pep won 5 years later?

randomperson:


Exactly my point, Mourinho is a small team manager. He should be dragging with tony Pulis, pardew, allerdyce and co...

He should leave the elite clubs for pep, and he should concentrate on inter and Porto, because when he tries to reach above his class, he always falls short..

And when Pep doesn't have Messi, he becomes Eddie Howe...

patrickmuf:
Clutching at straws, the competition then was greater, it was more difficult to win as you had more worthy challengers...

Talking about inflation, 60-70 in 2004 is equivalent to the fee quoted for Neymar now...You shout inflation upandan like you know how it works...

This thing is very simple... Just ascertain the value of all those old transfers in today's market .... U can use the percentage of the transfer record at that time...

Am not an economist, but i understand inflation is a significant factor and ignoring it will make this an exercise in futility

eph12:

Lol.. How many has Pep won 5 years later?

Lol.. How many has Mourinho won 7 years later