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Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by royalamour(m): 8:23am On Feb 04, 2018
So sometimes I see animals give birth and they moan and groan as a result of the pains they feel.

And I start to wonder if they ate the forbidden fruit and was cursed too.

So why do they feel pains like children of Eve?

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Nobody: 8:26am On Feb 04, 2018
Interesting. Am waiting for the elders in nairaland to come and answer.

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by hopefulLandlord: 8:27am On Feb 04, 2018

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by midolian(m): 8:33am On Feb 04, 2018
So you believe that?

Its simple..The size of whatever the animal is giving birth to is always bigger than the "passage"..it will have to be forced out...so the forcing out is what causes the pain

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by CAPSLOCKED: 8:36am On Feb 04, 2018
midolian:
So you believe that?

Its simple..The size of whatever the animal is giving birth to is always bigger than the "passage"..it will have to be forced out...so the forcing out is what causes the pain




SO THE "SIN" OF OUR GRANDMOTHER "EVE" IS WHAT CAUSES PAIN IN HUMAN, OR WHAT?

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by TomHagen: 8:38am On Feb 04, 2018
This is one of the questions that destroy your illusions in an instant.

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by bebeto94: 8:38am On Feb 04, 2018
midolian:
So you believe that?

Its simple..The size of whatever the animal is giving birth to is always bigger than the "passage"..it will have to be forced out...so the forcing out is what causes the pain
Yes u r correct. It therefore means dat giving birth is a natural thing 4 all creatures, and not as a result of d curse God put on eve

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by thatNUPEboy: 8:41am On Feb 04, 2018
This thread will be interesting..leme wait for oversabi pple's post

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by NPComplete: 8:56am On Feb 04, 2018
Now this is how you know someone who thinks. You have asked the right sensible questions that anyone who uses their brain has been asking.

The stories in the bible are just myths and folktales that has been adopted as canon. Nothing more.

This is the same kind of question I ask about virginity. Some Christians believe that the hymen was created for a special spiritual purpose and even take it further by comparing the breaking of the hymen to some sort of ritual or covenant. Then I ask: why do animals have hymen too? What spiritual purpose does it serve in them?

The religious mind is just crazy.

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by JudgementHammer: 9:01am On Feb 04, 2018
NPComplete:
Now this is how you know someone who thinks. You have asked the right sensible questions that anyone who uses their brain has been asking.

The stories in the bible are just myths and folktales that has been adopted as canon. Nothing more.

This is the same kind of question I ask about virginity. Some Christians believe that the hymen was created for a special spiritual purpose and even take it further by comparing the breaking of the hymen to some sort of ritual or covenant. Then I ask: why do animals have hymen too? What spiritual purpose does it serve in them?

The religious mind is just crazy.
Since you can think, you should have also thought of why you have to wear clothes to cover ur nakkeedness unlike animals, why u have d highest developed brain among animals and why you can't pick foods from the floor or have sex on the streets without being shy. The same proof that equates you with animals as long as labour pain is concerned, should competently equate you with them in those areas too. Your thinking is half-done just like an animal's thinking shd be.

Do you know that animals desires to get food existed with them before God created man on d 6th day. When God created Lions and other animals in d world, they immediately began their struggle to fight for prey and the preys with immediate sense to elude their predators. They were also created with their physiological responses to childbirth.

Man alone was d one created out of special consideration..God said now let's create man In our image and likeness, why were animals not so lucky? After creating them in his likeness, he also put them in a special garden called eden guarded by angels. They were so special, they were d only one that could talk and with the highest developed brain. In the same special way, he made them without labour pain until they brought themselves under the curse by eating the forbidden fruit as recorded in the bible and also had to be clothed unlike animals.

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by fineboynl(m): 9:07am On Feb 04, 2018
have you seen any animal that need or gave assistance to other animal like the humans?

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by kocvalour(m): 9:13am On Feb 04, 2018
fineboynl:
have you seen any animal that need or gave assistance to other animal like the humans?

don't mind them.

please op you and your likes should answer this

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by enilove(m): 9:14am On Feb 04, 2018
royalamour:
So sometimes I see animals give birth and they moan and groan as a result of the pains they feel.

And I start to wonder if they ate the forbidden fruit and was cursed too.

So why do they feel pains like children of Eve?


What the Bible is simply telling you is that women were not supposed to bear children in pains.

Like Dolphins , they don't experience any pain when giving birth. And it is a known fact that labour pains and delivery for animals are shorter than humans.

This means that the original plan of God for humans was to give birth without any pain and aid of someone else , just like some animals seem calm and relaxed throughout the whole entire period of their giving birth .

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by NPComplete: 9:14am On Feb 04, 2018
fineboynl:
have you seen any animal that need or gave assistance to other animal like the humans?

Yes many. Within their capacity. Dolphins, dogs, monkeys etc......

Say what u know and can defend

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by NPComplete: 9:19am On Feb 04, 2018
enilove:


What the Bible is simply telling you is that women were not supposed to bear children in pains.

Like Dolphins , they don't experience any pain when giving birth. And it is a known fact that labour pains and delivery for animals are shorter than humans.

This means that the original plan of God for humans was to give birth without any pain and aid of someone else , just like some animals seem calm and relaxed throughout the whole entire period of their giving birth .


Another dishonest Christian. Why are u using dolphins as an example? Why not hyenas? Those ones have it far worse than humans do. U think u can hoodwink us by sneaking in one example.

Did the hyena Eve also eat some apple and trick the hyena Adam into eating one too? I am guessing she must have eaten up to 5 apples to experience far excruciating pain than humans do. Yeye.

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by adepeter2027(m): 9:20am On Feb 04, 2018
You need the holy spirit ooo

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by adepeter2027(m): 9:23am On Feb 04, 2018
enilove:


What the Bible is simply telling you is that women were not supposed to bear children in pains.

Like Dolphins , they don't experience any pain when giving birth. And it is a known fact that labour pains and delivery for animals are shorter than humans.

Huh
But you know what? Not all humans give birth in pains

This means that the original plan of God

So god couldn't rectify the bug in his code and fix it?
Gosh.
for humans was to give birth without any pain and aid of someone else , just like some animals seem calm and relaxed throughout the whole entire period of their giving birth .

there are humans who don't give birth in pains. So what's your point?

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by 1Sharon(f): 9:27am On Feb 04, 2018
NPComplete:
Now this is how you know someone who thinks. You have asked the right sensible questions that anyone who uses their brain has been asking.

The stories in the bible are just myths and folktales that has been adopted as canon. Nothing more.

This is the same kind of question I ask about virginity. Some Christians believe that the hymen was created for a special spiritual purpose and even take it further by comparing the breaking of the hymen to some sort of ritual or covenant. Then I ask: why do animals have hymen too? What spiritual purpose does it serve in them?

The religious mind is just crazy.

Hmm never knew animals have hymen too...

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by 1Sharon(f): 9:30am On Feb 04, 2018
enilove:


What the Bible is simply telling you is that women were not supposed to bear children in pains.

Like Dolphins , they don't experience any pain when giving birth. And it is a known fact that labour pains and delivery for animals are shorter than humans.

This means that the original plan of God for humans was to give birth without any pain and aid of someone else , just like some animals seem calm and relaxed throughout the whole entire period of their giving birth .


So why were dolphins excerpted from pains

You think all women go through long labour pains?

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by NPComplete: 9:30am On Feb 04, 2018
JudgementHammer:

Since you can think, you should have also thought of why you have to wear clothes to cover ur nakkeedness unlike animals, why u have d highest developed brain among animals and why you can't pick foods from the floor or have sex on the streets without being shy. The same proof that equates you with animals as long as labour pain is concerned, should competently equate you with them in those areas too. Your thinking is half-done just like an animal's thinking shd be.

Do you know that animals struggles to get food existed with them before God created man on d 6th day. When God created Lions and other animals in d world, they immediately begin their struggle to fight for prey and the preys with immediate sense to elude their predators. They were also created with their physiological responses to childbirth.

Man alone was d one created out of special consideration..God said now let's create man In our image and likeness, why were animals not so lucky? After creating them in his likeness, be also put them in a special garden called eden guarded by angels. They were so special, they were d only one that could talk and with the highest developed brain. In the same special way, he made them without labour pain until they brought themselves under the curse by eating the forbidden fruit as recorded in the bible and also had to be clothed unlike animals.



Very very stupid assumptions. Dude learn how to think and get your facts right before entering into sensible conversations.

1. A lot of cultures existed that go about stark naked and are not bothered by it. The modern world is what has placed a premium on clothing. Even the ancient Greeks went around naked mostly. So what is your point?

2. Have u ever heard of orgies? Many cultures existed where there was sex in the streets too. Dude make sense please. I am begging u.

3. People are picking food on the streets even today. A lot of homeless people do. Certainly famine stricken nations do not share your abhorrence for food fallen on the ground. No sense in that your comment whatsoever.

The rest of post is just stupid religious drivel that has no backing beyond the fact that it is in the Holy Writ. I suppose u were there when God was saying all those things for u to be using it as a case for a rational argument.

Respond with intelligence next time.

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by 1Sharon(f): 9:32am On Feb 04, 2018
NPComplete:


Another dishonest Christian. Why are u using dolphins as an example? Why not hyenas? Those ones have it far worse than humans do. U think u can hoodwink us by sneaking in one example.

Did the hyena Eve also eat some apple and trick the hyena Adam into eating one too? I am guessing she must have eaten up to 5 apples to experience far excruciating pain than humans do. Yeye.

Bwahaha...you saw that crap too

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by NPComplete: 9:35am On Feb 04, 2018
1Sharon:


Hmm never knew animals have hymen too...

Now u know, dear. Now u know. wink

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by 1Sharon(f): 9:36am On Feb 04, 2018
JudgementHammer:

Since you can think, you should have also thought of why you have to wear clothes to cover ur nakkeedness unlike animals, why u have d highest developed brain among animals and why you can't pick foods from the floor or have sex on the streets without being shy. The same proof that equates you with animals as long as labour pain is concerned, should competently equate you with them in those areas too. Your thinking is half-done just like an animal's thinking shd be.

Do you know that animals struggles to get food existed with them before God created man on d 6th day. When God created Lions and other animals in d world, they immediately begin their struggle to fight for prey and the preys with immediate sense to elude their predators. They were also created with their physiological responses to childbirth.

Man alone was d one created out of special consideration..God said now let's create man In our image and likeness, why were animals not so lucky? After creating them in his likeness, be also put them in a special garden called eden guarded by angels. They were so special, they were d only one that could talk and with the highest developed brain. In the same special way, he made them without labour pain until they brought themselves under the curse by eating the forbidden fruit as recorded in the bible and also had to be clothed unlike animals.


Trash!

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by JudgementHammer: 9:39am On Feb 04, 2018
NPComplete:



Very very stupid assumptions. Dude learn how to think and get your facts right before entering into sensible conversations.

1. A lot of cultures existed that go about stark naked and are not bothered by it. The modern world is what has placed a premium on clothing. Even the ancient Greeks went around naked mostly. So what is your point?

2. Have u ever heard of orgies? Many cultures existed where there was sex in the streets too. Dude make sense please. I am begging u.

3. People are picking food on the streets even today. A lot of homeless people do. Certainly famine stricken nations do not share your abhorrence for food fallen on the ground. No sense in that your comment whatsoever.

The rest of post is just stupid religious drivel that has no backing beyond the fact that it is in the Holy Writ. I suppose u were there when God was saying all those things for u to be using it as a case for a rational argument.

Respond with intelligence next time.
Lol so to you culture superceedes creation. Who made culture? Now who created those who made culture?

Picking food on d floor is inspired by poverty and not a physiological response.

You don't have point bro. Your argument is still half-baked.

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by JudgementHammer: 9:44am On Feb 04, 2018
1Sharon:


Trash!
Same as you.

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by enilove(m): 9:46am On Feb 04, 2018
adepeter2027:

Huh
But you know what? Not all humans give birth in pains

So god couldn't rectify the bug in his code and fix it?
Gosh.
there are humans who don't give birth in pains. So what's your point?


There is no woman that does not give birth in pains . What they will tell you is that "it was easier " . Also when you have 99.7666% of the population of women world wide who experience pain in child bearing , it is normal to say "all women experience pains in childbirth".

A woman can have an easy childbirth to day and experience an extremely painful childbirth another time. This depends on the size of the head of the baby , but whether small or big, the experience is generally painful to them and lasts for hours.

That is why sin is a killer . That curse God placed on women was recreational .

Genesis 3:16 KJV
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by nowpresence(f): 9:47am On Feb 04, 2018
please mention the names
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by 1Sharon(f): 9:48am On Feb 04, 2018
JudgementHammer:

Same as you.

Still trash

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by NPComplete: 9:48am On Feb 04, 2018
JudgementHammer:

Lol so to you culture superceedes creation. Who made culture? Now who created those who made culture?

Picking food on d floor is inspired by poverty and not a physiological response.

You don't have point bro. Your argument is still half-baked.

Nonsense. Please stop fouling this thread with such unintelligent responses. I am weary of responding to such folly.

Nope actually it is modern hygiene and health is what has stopped people from picking food from the streets. Even in the middle ages, rich people were not having their baths and if their food falls on the ground they ate it.

Do u know that if u train a dog to eat from a bowl and in the house it will become very choosy about what and where it eats? The only reason u can boast about not eating from the street is abundance and training. If there were to be a famine now, u won't be any different from those feral animals u disdain. When push comes to shove, u will lose all this human exclusivity in which u are so conceited.

The only reason I am replying is because of other people that will come and read this thread. Not because I think u are smart enough to understand sound arguments. Cheers

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by adepeter2027(m): 9:49am On Feb 04, 2018
JudgementHammer:

Lol so to you culture superceedes creation. Who made culture? Now who created those who made culture?

Wait wait wait wait

Don't tell me the answer to the emboldened is God?
Now lemme play the reverse card at you - lets agree God created everything like you claimed, but which of these god can we attest the creation attributes to? Is is the Christian god? Islam god? Zeus? AMADIOHA? Panku? Jupiter? FSM ?

Picking food on d floor is inspired by poverty and not a physiological response.

Huh?

You don't have point bro. Your argument is still half-baked.
Chaiii

It is well with you bro

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by JudgementHammer: 9:51am On Feb 04, 2018
NPComplete:


Nonsense. Please stop fouling this thread with such unintelligent responses. I am weary of responding to such folly.

Nope actually it is modern hygiene and health is what has stopped people from picking food from the streets. Even in the middle ages, rich people were not having their baths and if their food falls on the ground they ate it.

Do u know that if u train a dog to eat from a bowl and in the house it will become very choosy about what and where it eats? The only reason u can boast about not eating from the street is abundance and training. If there were to be a famine now, u won't be any different from those feral animals u disdain. When push comes to shove, u will lose all this human exclusivity in which u are so conceited.

The only reason I am replying is because of other people that will come and read this thread. Not because I think u are smart enough to understand sound arguments. Cheers
Lol you're just one embittered ignoramus. I should be d one getting irritated with ur folly. You post to please people.

Wish to see you on your sick bed after accident has claimed ur mobility then will wonder who you will call upon.

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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by 1Sharon(f): 9:53am On Feb 04, 2018
JudgementHammer:

Lol you're just one embittered ignoramus. I should be d one getting irritated with ur folly

Wish to see you on your sick bed after accident has claimed ur mobility

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