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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by JudgementHammer: 10:53am On Feb 04, 2018 |
tintingz:You're reasoning too much, you lost it. 2 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by CoolUsername: 10:53am On Feb 04, 2018 |
JudgementHammer: 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Luizkid(m): 10:56am On Feb 04, 2018 |
fineboynl:lyk seriously you've been on this earth and ask such question?? many vets give assistance to these animals to reduce mortality. Also note there are records of women who successfully gave birth without assistance. 12 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by TomHagen: 11:02am On Feb 04, 2018 |
JudgementHammer:Your interlocutor was right. You are a total mor0n. 18 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by JudgementHammer: 11:07am On Feb 04, 2018 |
TomHagen:Hiding behind someone's else post and judging another without making any point of yours makes you worse than a mor0n. You're a hopeless mental patient 5 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by TomHagen: 11:14am On Feb 04, 2018 |
JudgementHammer:You have shown that you do not possess sufficient brain power to understand the simple arguments put before you. So like the religious but that you are, you have resorted to wishing evil upon someone. Tell me why I should add anything to what has been said. Wait. Don't!! 13 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by JudgementHammer: 11:16am On Feb 04, 2018 |
TomHagen:You don't have to add baboon. You just had to make your own sensible point afresh in simple sentences. 2 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by kevoh(m): 11:21am On Feb 04, 2018 |
TomHagen:Not when the "Cognitive dissonace force" is strong with that 7 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by TomHagen: 11:33am On Feb 04, 2018 |
kevoh:Totally correct. It's almost unbelievable how they cannot see what you are seeing. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by hopefulLandlord: 11:36am On Feb 04, 2018 |
TomHagen:I've noticed you've moved more and more away from Christianity with time |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by enilove(m): 11:41am On Feb 04, 2018 |
adepeter2027: Man is not an animal . It is a curse to call yourself an animal. If anyone sees himself as an animal , then he can discend so low as to sleep with an animal and the curse of God is upon such: Leviticus 18:22-24 KJV Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. [23] Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. [24] Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: The statistic is of the ratios is easy. Go to ten diff hospitals and ask whether during year 2017 there was any pregnant woman that did not experience pains during childbirth, they will tell you that it is not possible. It is true that some animals do experience pains when giving birth but the point is that for humans it was not meant to be so from the beginning. Like the Dolphin I gave as example , they don't experience pains when giving birth . That should tell you that if not for sin, as the bible tells us, women wouldn't be experiencing pain ,also , during child bearing. Like a car manufacturer , you can design your car the way you like. You can put the booth in the front and the engine at the back as you wish. 4 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by MisterGrace: 11:43am On Feb 04, 2018 |
JudgementHammer: Choi! This one strong o... Are you a christian bro? 5 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by NPComplete: 11:45am On Feb 04, 2018 |
tintingz: That guy is an oaf. A pitiful one at that. He started his reply to me by stating that my think is like that of an animal. And when I replied him in the tone he set, he started playing the victim. Just look at how he started by thanking u for not using insults like "most atheists" then he turned around and insults u. What a clown 15 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by adepeter2027(m): 11:45am On Feb 04, 2018 |
enilove:Since it's the Bible, I gat no problem. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by NPComplete: 11:50am On Feb 04, 2018 |
enilove: You keep parroting this same fallacy over and over again. And I keep asking: what sin did the hyenas commit to make them experience more pain that we do? 14 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by realmindz: 12:06pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
NPComplete: they say death means the soul and spirit leaves a human body and goes to God for judgement...then I ask, does the death of animals and plants translate to their souls leaving their bodies for judgement 7 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by MuttleyLaff: 12:12pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
royalamour:It needs to be acknowledged that not all daughters of Eve feel pain at childbirth just as not all animals moan and groan as a result of the pains seemingly felt when and/or during giving birth royalamour:No, they didnt eat of the forbidden fruit royalamour:Simple answer If at all, they feel pain(s), it is down to the original curse on the ground The state of undergoing pain, is part of the consequences or after-effects of the unhappy and unpleasant event that happened in the garden cc charliboy654, hopefulLandlord, CAPSLOCKED, thatNUPEboy, NPComplete, JudgementHammer, enilove, adepeter2027, 1Sharon 1 Like |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by realmindz: 12:14pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
enilove: what will you teach your daughter as the classification of living things...? plant Kingdom , animal kingdom and human kingdom right....?? From the very simple science, only someone who has refused to be sensible will refuse the fact that science and religion does not go together.... 10 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by royalamour(m): 12:38pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: You mean they (animals) face the same consequences as humans even if they know nothing about the incident? 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by MuttleyLaff: 12:44pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
realmindz:Death in this context, is a dividing line and in simple terms, means separation. The soul separates from the spirit and body The spirit goes back to God, where it came from and the body goes back to the ground, it was made from whilst the soul goes to waiting lounge after where it boards a flight, to land at a terminal that ends its temporary stay or journey on earth realmindz:Plants dont have nephesh (i.e. soul), so arent subjected to judgement as human beings 1 Like |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by MuttleyLaff: 12:52pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
royalamour:Yes. They share the effect, result or outcome of the incident that occurred between the trio in the garden, they know nothing about. 2 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by tintingz(m): 1:02pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
NPComplete: 1 Like |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by enilove(m): 1:07pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
NPComplete: The pains hyenas and some animals experience during giving birth is designed by God and not because of any sin. That is known to God that created them. 1 Like |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by TomHagen: 1:09pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:If there's an original curse on the ground then it seems only fair that everyone should bear the brunt of that curse. Why should anyone or any animal escape it? I'll tell you why There was no such curse. 10 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by TomHagen: 1:09pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
enilove:Lol. 8 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by TomHagen: 1:10pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:Yeah I have. 6 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Nobody: 1:16pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
fineboynl:I have seen animals helping each other countless times. 5 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by enilove(m): 1:20pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
realmindz: Who gave that classifications , some men or God. Is that classifications in the Bible? To you , is it right or wrong? You should see by now that there is so many things wrong with mankind . If the types of men that created sex dolls are allowed to classify living things , would they not include sex dolls as a living thing. That is, they would have included non living things which they are trying to give life to. The right classifications should have been "Human beings, animals and plants ". 3 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by BLESSMME: 1:20pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
JudgementHammer: Wow Wow Wow If not that I have come to know God for myself, you and your likes would av dragged me out of Christianity with your incessant curses. I have never read any argument between Christians and atheists without getting angry at the Christian folks. You are supposed to be peaceful and argue smartly, but the reverse is the case. Every point he made is VERY VALID. 16 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by MuttleyLaff: 1:21pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
TomHagen:Everyone and everything bears the brunt of that curse. TomHagen:None escapes it. None escapes anything Just because the magnitude or intensity could be minimal, low, bearable, as in, to the extent of, not be felt and so gives the impression there is no pain, distress or hardship, doesnt mean anyone or any animal escape it Each have varied or different threshold levels TomHagen:You tell wrong, to say that there is and/or was no such curse The ground, inarguably is accursed Whatever came out of the ground (i.e. animals) whatever is made off the ground (i.e. human beings) are subjected to the curse, in varying state of undergoing pain, distress or hardship 1 Like |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Nobody: 1:23pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
enilove:Guy shut up, living things are classified into two, plant and animals. Humans are animals but more intelligent than any other animal on earth. Why do scientist use animals such as rats for experiment b4 trying such experiment on human? It's because we have same characteristics. You have heart, lungs, liver, kidney, brain, spinal cord etc, an animal also have all those things, so what makes u different from them. The only difference between we and them is our level intelligence. 13 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by enilove(m): 1:27pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
charliboy654: Are you an animal because some people started classifying living things into 2 ? 2 Likes |
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