tintingz:
It's you actually, you don't reason before you react.

JudgementHammer:

Lol you're just one embittered ignoramus. I should be d one getting irritated with ur folly. You post to please people.

Wish to see you on your sick bed after accident has claimed ur mobility

fineboynl:
have you seen any animal that need or gave assistance to other animal like the humans?

JudgementHammer:

Lol you're just one embittered ignoramus. I should be d one getting irritated with ur folly. You post to please people.

Wish to see you on your sick bed after accident has claimed ur mobility then will wonder who you will call upon.

TomHagen:
Your interlocutor was right.

You are a total mor0n.

JudgementHammer:

Hiding behind someone's else post and judging another without making any point of yours makes you worse than a mor0n. You're a hopeless mental patient

TomHagen:
You have shown that you do not possess sufficient brain power to understand the simple arguments put before you.

So like the religious but that you are, you have resorted to wishing evil upon someone.
Tell me why I should add anything to what has been said.

Wait. Don't!!

TomHagen:
This is one of the questions that destroy your illusions in an instant.

kevoh:

Not when the "Cognitive dissonace force" is strong with that christian individual.

TomHagen:
Totally correct. It's almost unbelievable how they cannot see what you are seeing.

adepeter2027:

Same way, I could also say, there is no animal that doesn't give birth in pain, what I will tell you is that "it is easier".
Besides, hope you aware of the fact that man is animal?


Where did you get this statistics from?

But other animals like horse, goats, donkeys, camels, hyenas etc also experience pain during child delivery. Why?

JudgementHammer:

Lol you're just one embittered ignoramus. I should be d one getting irritated with ur folly. You post to please people.

Wish to see you on your sick bed after accident has claimed ur mobility then will wonder who you will call upon.

tintingz:
It's you actually, you don't reason before you react.

enilove:



Man is not an animal . It is a curse to call yourself an animal. If anyone sees himself as an animal , then he can discend so low as to sleep with an animal and the curse of God is upon such:
Leviticus 18:22-24 KJV
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. [23] Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. [24] Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:


The statistic is of the ratios is easy. Go to ten diff hospitals and ask whether during year 2017 there was any pregnant woman that did not experience pains during childbirth, they will tell you that it is not possible.

It is true that some animals do experience pains when giving birth but the point is that for humans it was not meant to be so from the beginning.

Like the Dolphin I gave as example , they don't experience pains when giving birth . That should tell you that if not for sin, as the bible tells us, women wouldn't be experiencing pain ,also , during child bearing.

Like a car manufacturer , you can design your car the way you like. You can put the booth in the front and the engine at the back as you wish.

enilove:

Like the Dolphin I gave as example , they don't experience pains when giving birth . That should tell you that if not for sin, as the bible tells us, women wouldn't be experiencing pain ,also , during child bearing.

Like a car manufacturer , you can design your car the way you like. You can put the booth in the front and the engine at the back as you wish.

NPComplete:
Now this is how you know someone who thinks. You have asked the right sensible questions that anyone who uses their brain has been asking.

The stories in the bible are just myths and folktales that has been adopted as canon. Nothing more.

This is the same kind of question I ask about virginity. Some Christians believe that the hymen was created for a special spiritual purpose and even take it further by comparing the breaking of the hymen to some sort of ritual or covenant. Then I ask: why do animals have hymen too? What spiritual purpose does it serve in them?

The religious mind is just crazy.

royalamour:
So sometimes I see animals give birth and they moan and groan as a result of the pains they feel.

royalamour:
And I start to wonder if they ate the forbidden fruit and was cursed too.

royalamour:
So why do they feel pains like children of Eve?

enilove:



Man is not an animal . It is a curse to call yourself an animal. If anyone sees himself as an animal , then he can discend so low as to sleep with an animal and the curse of God is upon such:
Leviticus 18:22-24 KJV
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. [23] Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. [24] Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:


The statistic is of the ratios is easy. Go to ten diff hospitals and ask whether during year 2017 there was any pregnant woman that did not experience pains during childbirth, they will tell you that it is not possible.

It is true that some animals do experience pains when giving birth but the point is that for humans it was not meant to be so from the beginning.

Like the Dolphin I gave as example , they don't experience pains when giving birth . That should tell you that if not for sin, as the bible tells us, women wouldn't be experiencing pain ,also , during child bearing.

Like a car manufacturer , you can design your car the way you like. You can put the booth in the front and the engine at the back as you wish.

MuttleyLaff:
It needs to be acknowledged that not all daughters of Eve feel pain at childbirth
just as not all animals moan and groan as a result of the pains seemingly felt when and/or during giving birth

No, they didnt eat of the forbidden fruit

Simple answer
If at all, they feel pain(s), it is down to the original curse on the ground

The state of undergoing pain, is part of the consequences or after-effects of the unhappy and unpleasant event that happened in the garden

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realmindz:
then I ask, does the death of animals and plants translate to their souls leaving their bodies for judgement

realmindz:
then I ask, does the death of animals and plants translate to their souls leaving their bodies for judgement

royalamour:
You mean they (animals) face the same consequences as humans even if they know nothing about the incident?

NPComplete:


That guy is an oaf. A pitiful one at that.

He started his reply to me by stating that my think is like that of an animal. And when I replied him in the tone he set, he started playing the victim. Just look at how he started by thanking u for not using insults like "most atheists" then he turned around and insults u.

What a clown

NPComplete:


You keep parroting this same fallacy over and over again. And I keep asking: what sin did the hyenas commit to make them experience more pain that we do?

MuttleyLaff:
It needs to be acknowledged that not all daughters of Eve feel pain at childbirth
just as not all animals moan and groan as a result of the pains seemingly felt when and/or during giving birth

No, they didnt eat of the forbidden fruit

Simple answer
If at all, they feel pain(s), it is down to the original curse on the ground

The state of undergoing pain, is part of the consequences or after-effects of the unhappy and unpleasant event that happened in the garden

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enilove:


The pains hyenas and some animals experience during giving birth is designed by God and not because of any sin. That is known to God that created them.

hopefulLandlord:


I've noticed you've moved more and more away from Christianity with time

fineboynl:
have you seen any animal that need or gave assistance to other animal like the humans?

realmindz:


what will you teach your daughter as the classification of living things...? plant Kingdom , animal kingdom and human kingdom right....??

From the very simple science, only someone who has refused to be sensible will refuse the fact that science and religion does not go together....

JudgementHammer:

Lol you're just one embittered ignoramus. I should be d one getting irritated with ur folly. You post to please people.

Wish to see you on your sick bed after accident has claimed ur mobility then will wonder who you will call upon.

TomHagen:
If there's an original curse on the ground then it seems only fair that everyone should bear the brunt of that curse.

TomHagen:
Why should anyone or any animal escape it?

TomHagen:
I'll tell you why
There was no such curse.

enilove:



Man is not an animal . It is a curse to call yourself an animal. If anyone sees himself as an animal , then he can discend so low as to sleep with an animal and the curse of God is upon such:
Leviticus 18:22-24 KJV
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. [23] Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. [24] Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:


The statistic is of the ratios is easy. Go to ten diff hospitals and ask whether during year 2017 there was any pregnant woman that did not experience pains during childbirth, they will tell you that it is not possible.

It is true that some animals do experience pains when giving birth but the point is that for humans it was not meant to be so from the beginning.

Like the Dolphin I gave as example , they don't experience pains when giving birth . That should tell you that if not for sin, as the bible tells us, women wouldn't be experiencing pain ,also , during child bearing.

Like a car manufacturer , you can design your car the way you like. You can put the booth in the front and the engine at the back as you wish.

charliboy654:

Guy shut up, living things are classified into two, plant and animals. Humans are animals but more intelligent than any other animal on earth.
Why do scientist use animals such as rats for experiment b4 trying such experiment on human?
It's because we have same characteristics.
You have heart, lungs, liver, kidney, brain, spinal cord etc, an animal also have all those things, so what makes u different from them.
The only difference between we and them is our level intelligence.