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Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by budaatum: 4:00pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
NPComplete:Aamen! |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Ever8054: 4:02pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
NPComplete:now answer this question so we can start from here...do you believe there are animals that gives birth without pains? 1 Like |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by orisa37: 4:06pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
The Seroent was an Animal too. He ate the fruit first in Spirit for all Animals, humans and pure. |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by DavidEsq(m): 4:11pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
orisa37: |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Nobody: 4:15pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
Some things are better left unsaid. |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by plaetton: 4:19pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
femi4:Lol. Stop sulking. Once you post an opinion on this forum, you should expect and get used to being quoted. You don't get to choose who quotes you. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by cassidy1996(m): 4:22pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
1Sharon:you have a very pretty face, you shouldn't hide it.. |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by piagetskinner(m): 4:27pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
some of these so called Christians don't even know how to make valid points without being insultive.. especially that judgmenthammer guy..you claim to be a Christian but see what you put up as your display picture... highly disgusting.. even the atheists responding who are actually very ignorant sound smarter than you.. 3 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by skot: 4:27pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
Genesis 1:26-30 and Exodus 11:4-6 Read the above passages for understanding of how God operates. God created man and gave him power and dominion over the animals, man is God's ultimate creation and animals are under man. When God cursed man, everything under man shared in the curse. Man dies and so does the animals under him, women undergo pain during child birth so does the female animals, but man can go to heaven cos he was created in God's image but animals remain. When God shared his plans with Moses on how to get the Isrealites out of Egypt, He said tell the king that by midnight all first born would die including those of the animals. Meaning if God curses man all under him is included. 1 Like |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Primesky(m): 4:28pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
[quote author=royalamour post=64769511]So sometimes I see animals give birth and they moan and groan as a result of the pains they feel. And I start to wonder if they ate the forbidden fruit and was cursed too. So why do they feel pains like children of Eve? God said "I will greatly increase thy pain... " the pain was already there. So please don't try to discredit the word of God. Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by shineeye1: 4:30pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. Know it that the fall of man triggered a chain of adversity in creation soon to be corrected |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Primesky(m): 4:33pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
royalamour:God said " I will greatly increase thy pain..." So the pain was already there. So please, don't try to discredit the word of God. The pain women have is more than what its supposed to be. Take it or live it. Thanks. 3 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Nobody: 4:33pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
DavidEsq: Ok now u are making sense. Kudos |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by 1Sharon(f): 4:37pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
cassidy1996: Aww thank you |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by 1Sharon(f): 4:38pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
IAmAmbrose: You wot m8 |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Omaattah(m): 4:39pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
Is snake not an animal? No b snake deceive Eve? Animal get role to play too |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by 1Sharon(f): 4:40pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
JudgementHammer: Knowing you are a superstitious muttonhead, you probably beleive a woman could give birth to a parrot 4 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Nobody: 4:41pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
NPComplete:Oga no be situation make crayfish bend? Oga wetin u go do if food no dey ur country ehn and u come see say person throw leftovers, u no go pick am, but animals re already subjected to that lifestyle, |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by DavidEsq(m): 4:45pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
greenhulk:Thanks be to God. If u seek to know more, u may send me a mail. One question dat I wish to ask u is dis: do u think God has abandoned that purpose in Gen 1:28 and Gen.2:15, as quoted above? 1 Like |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by hermosa7: 4:51pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
TomHagen: You say that because you don't know the whole length and breath and height and depth of what sin is. If you go into sin, 'innocent' souls around you will suffer in one way or the other. Why do you think God said he'll destroy the physical universe with fire? According to the Bible, the whole creation groans right now, waiting for the day it will be DELIVERED. 1 Like |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by OyinO: 4:52pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
The Bible is a Book of Ancient fables stolen from Egyptology. All those stoopid stories about one malevolent god causing Eve is expired rubbish. 4 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by TomHagen: 5:04pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:My position remains the same. You are adjusting your beliefs to align with reality. Nothing in the Bible suggests that the punishment would not be same for everyone. |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by TomHagen: 5:06pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
hermosa7:When did God say he will destroy the UNIVERSE with fire? I did not get the memo. |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Drealthing(m): 5:07pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
Tomhagen and Npcomplete have made a lot of sense. The truth is that Christianity and its creed are full of illogicalities. The original sin doctrine is a fallacy created to enslave the mind to make him think he needs saving. The so called sacrifice by Jesus is totally senseless as GOD at no point lost him. GOD owns and has dominion over all things whether in the physical or spiritual forms. Sadly the Christians, especially in this part of the world are not willing to use half of their brains and be logical. The bible is not infallible. Don't bet your life or hereafter on it. My two cents! 2 Likes |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by IAmAmbrose(m): 5:09pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
1Sharon:#confused |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by TomHagen: 5:09pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
Drealthing:Preach!! |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by bloodofthelamb(m): 5:13pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
royalamour: The whole earth is under a curse with everything that came out from it through Adam. All creation is groaning waiting for the manifestation of the sons of GOD. JESUS will deliver them as well. 1 Like |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by superboyspecial: 5:14pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: Pls,send me ur number,need to ask u a few questions on atheism,I bliv u'd be of help |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Elzends(m): 5:25pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
NPComplete:Fire on brother �✌️� |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by innobarca(m): 5:26pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
What of the Hebrew Women? They are not from Adam and Eve? In the Bible, GOD said he will increase the pain.....Simply means the pain was there before. |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Nobody: 5:29pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
clever and smart question... the answer lies in the apple actually... Satan gave man knowledge of what was good and evil... what this brought was fear.. you can only fear what you know... They say God cursed eve and Adam I say he only told them what would happen if they knew what would happen.. you see the animals were created that way.. yes animals were created differently from man I believe birth pains were a part of reproduction animals had to go through.... Adam and eve were created differently (given supremacy and unique features which make them different from others)... child birth was always going to be painful but not as painful as it is now... A woman’s pain in childbirth is part of the suffering brought into the world through sin. As a direct result of the original sin, Adam, Eve, and the serpent were all cursed in one way or another. Genesis 3:16 lists one of the judgments for Eve’s sin as pain in childbirth: “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children.” It appears that, even before the fall, there would have been some pain in childbirth. God says, “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbirth” (ESV), using a Hebrew word meaning “to increase.” The pain of childbirth would be more than before. The pain was amplified. The pain in childbirth that Eve and all her daughters would experience involved more than the actual delivery of the baby. The phrase “painful labor” indicates that the whole process of childbirth, from conception to delivery, would include much difficulty. 1 Like |
Re: Animals That Feel Pains Of Birth, Did They Eat The Forbidden Apple Too? by Daeylar(f): 5:29pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
NPComplete:Na wa sha Na wa |
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