Bros @AdeyinkaSeun....Ehya! I dey feel your pain, different people with different experiences sha.

I guess your expectations were just too high nii and those folks you said they used to come online to vomit the truth, the truth is they can't stand we Nigerians in anything you can think of so there situations would always be like that.

I am very sure the blackouts you mentioned were planned blackouts and announcements must have been made 3 months before that day(maybe you missed the announcement nii) and majorly the blackout will be for maintenance.

My advice for people coming, don't say because my friend or family is in Melbourne, I must live in Melbourne. No, it doesn't work that way.... Do your research and look for where opportunities are for you before finally leaving Naija. What works for them might not work for you.

As advised by Bellong and others, try another cities.... Goodluck! Boys are not smiling in Naija o.

You are right dear. Research for cities were your profession will Favour you.

In all sincerity, you cant compare Australia to Nigeria. Australia is far above Nigeria in over 70% of indices available.

SUJYDEE:
Bros @AdeyinkaSeun....Ehya! I dey feel your pain, different people with different experiences sha.

I guess your expectations were just too high nii and those folks you said they used to come online to vomit the truth, the truth is they can't stand we Nigerians in anything you can think of so there situations would always be like that.

I am very sure the blackouts you mentioned were planned blackouts and announcements must have been made 3 months before that day(maybe you missed the announcement nii) and majorly the blackout will be for maintenance.

My advice for people coming, don't say because my friend or family is in Melbourne, I must live in Melbourne. No, it doesn't work that way.... Do your research and look for where opportunities are for you before finally leaving Naija. What works for them might not work for you.

As advised by Bellong and others, try another cities.... Goodluck! Boys are not smiling in Naija o.

Been a silent follower of this thread and i can say that i was just laffing when i read uncle AdeyinkaSeun post concerning his melbourne experience!!!!

I must commend those that replied politely e.g bellong et all!!... i will not also blame those that bashed him (cos if he was my brother i swear na bottle i for take scatter him head)

Now lemme tell you about my Naija experience(in comparison to Adeyinka's post)
1). INTERNET- I really dont know how slow internet connection is over there but all i can say is Nigeria's internet is not strong either!! Apart from the fact that data is quite expensive!!.. you may not get to enjoy what you paid for!!

2). POWER: you've only experienced power failure twice in 8months?? Bros really?? Here in nigeria we pay for darkness. Power failure is now part of our culture..... Infact as i am typing this i am charging with a power bank cos Nigerian NEPA has taught me that ALL POWER TRULY BELONGS TO GOD.

3). CRIME: Bros do you know what crime is?? Let me define crime for you in the Nigerian context....
CRIME IS DRIVING A FLASHY CAR WITHOUT SETTLING POLICE ON THE WAY...
CRIME IS HELPING AN ACCIDENT VICTIM GET TO HOSPITAL WITHOUT POLICE REPORT.
CRIME IS CRITICISING THE GOVERNMENT IN POWER!
CRIME IS HEARING THE SIREN OF A POLICE VAN BEHIND YOU AND YOU DON'T GIVE WAY FOR THEM TO PASS!
These and more are the newest definition of crime in Nigeria. every other thing you know as crime, such as stealing and fighting(even killing too) we see it as normal now. My cousin was almost robbed at a bus stop just few steps away from a police checkpoint on his way back from work(6pm). So please remind me what crime is again

4). JOB: This one na Story for another day!!!(I need to chat with bae tonight so lemme reserve the Small juice left in my powerbank).

5). RACISM: You mentioned racism while back home tribes are fighting one another! Yoruba against igbos, igbos against hausas, hausas against yorubas.


I don't mean to counter your opinion tho, All i am saying in essence is "WHEN ARE YOU FINALLY MOVING BACK TO NAIJA LAST LAST??. Do well to let me know when u decide to move so i can inform DIPB of a migrants departure Make i kukuma take your place cos i no get strength to wait for long application process.
#Shalom

Aieboocaar:
Been a silent follower of this thread and i can say that i was just laffing when i read uncle AdeyinkaSeun post concerning his melbourne experience!!!!

I must commend those that replied politely e.g bellong et all!!... i will not also blame those that bashed him (cos if he was my brother i swear na bottle i for take scatter him head)

Now lemme tell you about my Naija experience(in comparison to Adeyinka's post)
1). INTERNET- I really dont know how slow internet connection is over there but all i can say is Nigeria's internet is not strong either!! Apart from the fact that data is quite expensive!!.. you may not get to enjoy what you paid for!!

2). POWER: you've only experienced power failure twice in 8months?? Bros really?? Here in nigeria we pay for darkness. Power failure is now part of our culture..... Infact as i am typing this i am charging with a power bank cos Nigerian NEPA has taught me that ALL POWER TRULY BELONGS TO GOD.

3). CRIME: Bros do you know what crime is?? Let me define crime for you in the Nigerian context....
CRIME IS DRIVING A FLASHY CAR WITHOUT SETTLING POLICE ON THE WAY...
CRIME IS HELPING AN ACCIDENT VICTIM GET TO HOSPITAL WITHOUT POLICE REPORT.
CRIME IS CRITICISING THE GOVERNMENT IN POWER!
CRIME IS HEARING THE SIREN OF A POLICE VAN BEHIND YOU AND YOU DON'T GIVE WAY FOR THEM TO PASS!
These and more are the newest definition of crime in Nigeria. every other thing you know as crime, such as stealing and fighting(even killing too) we see it as normal now. My cousin was almost robbed at a bus stop just few steps away from a police checkpoint on his way back from work(6pm). So please remind me what crime is again

4). JOB: This one na Story for another day!!!(I need to chat with bae tonight so lemme reserve the Small juice left in my powerbank).

5). RACISM: You mentioned racism while back home tribes are fighting one another! Yoruba against igbos, igbos against hausas, hausas against yorubas.


I don't mean to counter your opinion tho, All i am saying in essence is "WHEN ARE YOU FINALLY MOVING BACK TO NAIJA LAST LAST??. Do well to let me know when u decide to move so i can inform DIPB of a migrants departure Make i kukuma take your place cos i no get strength to wait for long application process.
#Shalom

One thing with Nigerians is that we seem to make unnecessary effort in trying to convince someone based on our personal views and experiences. This is why many people are narrow minded over here

Now the fellow you are responding to might be more exposed than you and your crew. He has been and lived in several European countries, he is a Nigerian and might still have friends and family giving him daily info about the country so what makes you and your crew feel that opinions from strangers on the Internet will affect the decisions he will make regarding his life and family?

Nigeria has one of the cheapest data in Africa, we also have various options that you can chose from. In terms of data speed, Europe and America lead but Nigeria is far better than Australia

If you check most credible data analysis on liveable countries Australia usually ranks among the first five, it is always placed above the US so why shouldn't one's expectations of the place be high? They have paid to put themselves there so they should live up to it. If it was Nigeria manipulating stats to make itself look good people like you will criticize the country without giving it a thought so why shouldn't Australia live up to the standard we expect as one of the most liveable cities in the world

Jobs? When a graduate with 10years experience tell you that he had to do manual labor for 6 weeks so that his family will not starve in Australia what does this statement mean to you? Is it today that you will hear people tell you to manage what you see before you get what you are looking for in Australia, will you do same in Nigeria or will you feel frustrated and start posting nonsense about your country?

To be honest I personally don't expect to hear that robberies take place the way it does in Australia, why? Because it is supposed to be among the most liveable places in the world and if it does happen I expect that on both occasions which Mr. Adeyinka reported the culprits should have been caught as one even happened in broad daylight!

Racism cannot be compared to tribalism. My tribe and yours occupy positions in this country, my tribe and yours go to the best schools if they can afford it and still feel included, my tribe and tours can open businesses here, but abroad racism is worse you will not understand until you and your family are among the few blacks living in an area, you will know only when you are a minority in a causian or even Asian country, when you experience ratial profiling you will understand better (it can't be explained until you experience it)

@Pidgin2,

I think I have to respond to your comeback.

For a start, this thread is for people to share their experiences about settling down in Australia and not for pro or pan African campaign. It will be better you leave your campaign for Nigeria aside and let this thread serve its purpose.

Your comparison of racism and tribalism has ignorance written all over it. Your assertions are lame about racism and tribalism. Both are social issues that affect psychology of anyone who has experienced it irrespective of how hard they pretend not to be affected.

Who says people of different race are not allowed to open business or allowed to go to the best school?

Comparing the data speed of Nigeria with that of Australia is the height of your joke.

Could you please take your campaign outside of this thread. If there is need for a debate about why Nigeria is a better place to live than Australia, you can open a new thread for it.

Thank you.

bellong:
@Pidgin2,

I think I have to respond to your comeback.

For a start, this thread is for people to share their experiences about settling down in Australia and not for pro or pan African campaign. It will be better you leave your campaign for Nigeria aside and let this thread serve its purpose.

Your comparison of racism and tribalism has ignorance written all over it. Your assertions are lame about racism and tribalism. Both are social issues that affect psychology of anyone who has experienced it irrespective of how hard they pretend not to be affected.

Who says people of different race are not allowed to open business or allowed to go to the best school?

Comparing the data speed of Nigeria with that of Australia is the height of your joke.

Could you please take your campaign outside of this thread. If there is need for a debate about why Nigeria is a better place to live than Australia, you can open a new thread for it.

Thank you.

I agree with your post, you created this thread so that people can share their experiences about living in Australia, Mr. Adeyinkasegun shared his experience but most people couldn't take it, it wasn't what they expected so they began to insult him for it

Anybody comparing racism to tribalism is just living in denial.

As for businesses, how many of you own thriving businesses over there?

I'm signing off.

Pidgin2:



I agree with your post, you created this thread so that people can share their experiences about living in Australia, Mr. Adeyinkasegun shared his experience but most people couldn't take it, it wasn't what they expected so they began to insult him for it

Anybody comparing racism to tribalism us just living in denial.

As for businesses, how many of you own thriving businesses over there?

I'm signing off

Better you sign off.

When you have no information or knowledge about a place, you shouldn't offer your opinion.

I need not tell you the number of business owners both professional or otherwise.

To give you a simple tutorial, the country is different from Nigeria.

Registering a business is as simple as spelling your own name. No long bureaucratic process involved. All you need is an internet to register your business online and you get Australian Business Number immediately.

There are hundreds of Nigerian business owners, clinics, services centres, stores across the country.

AdeyinkaSeun did not solicit for your help to defend him. He defended himself. People who insulted him may have gone over the board for the insults but that didn't give you the right to offer opinions based on ignorance.

Still comparing racism with tribalism is sad. It shows your depth of knowledge of social issues and how it affects individual's psyche.

When foreigners with different colour walks on the street of Lagos, how many people stare at them? Some insulting in their different languages yet they don't scream racism. It is when you leave your own comfort zone and same is done, you start to scream racism.

If at this age, you don't know that in any society, the majority will always try to take advantage or oppress the minority, then you need a lot of life's lessons.

Tribalism is different from racism yet in Nigeria, military was used against a pressure group of a particular tribe while miscreants from another tribe are left to waste innocent souls.

I understand you want to be patriotic but what you are doing is not patriotism. You cannot be more patriotic Nigerian than or up to some of us.

If you have any meaningful contribution aside comparing Nigeria, you can share it, if not take to your advice and don't add to what you have already written.

bellong:


Better you sign off.

When you have no information or knowledge about a place, you shouldn't offer your opinion.

I need not tell you the number of business owners both professional or otherwise.

To give you a simple tutorial, the country is different from Nigeria.

Registering a business is as simple as spelling your own name. No long bureaucratic process involved. All you need is an internet to register your business online and you get Australian Business Number immediately.

There are hundreds of Nigerian business owners, clinics, services centres, stores across the country.

AdeyinkaSeun did not solicit for your help to defend him. He defended himself. People who insulted him may have gone over the board for the insults but that didn't give you the right to offer opinions based on ignorance.

Still comparing racism with tribalism is sad. It shows your depth of knowledge of social issues and how it affects individual's psyche.

When foreigners with different colour walks on the street of Lagos, how many people stare at them? Some insulting in their different languages yet they don't scream racism. It is when you leave your own comfort zone and same is done, you start to scream racism.

If at this age, you don't know that in any society, the majority will always try to take advantage or oppress the minority, then you need a lot of life's lessons

Tribalism is different from racism yet in Nigeria, military was used against a pressure group of a particular tribe while miscreants from another tribe are left to waste innocent souls.

I understand you want to be patriotic but what you are doing is not patriotism. You cannot be more patriotic Nigerian than or up to some of us.

If you have any meaningful contribution aside comparing Nigeria, you can share it, if not take to your advice and don't add to what you have already written.

For the purpose of not derailing your thread I will not respond to the points you raised above but this one got be laffing, so what happened in Zimbabwe and South Africa lol these are just two countries where white minority oppressed black majority successfully for years. How did white minority colonize/oppress Africa and parts of Asia?

When foreigners come here and people stare it is more likely a friendly gesture than otherwise and those foreigners know it, it's not the same when people stare at you and keep their distance or frown in the process. Body language says it all

Like I said no need to derail your thread with unnecessary arguments.

More experiences about living in Australia are welcomed from hence forth.

bellong:


Better you sign off.

When you have no information or knowledge about a place, you shouldn't offer your opinion.

I need not tell you the number of business owners both professional or otherwise.

To give you a simple tutorial, the country is different from Nigeria.

Registering a business is as simple as spelling your own name. No long bureaucratic process involved. All you need is an internet to register your business online and you get Australian Business Number immediately.

There are hundreds of Nigerian business owners, clinics, services centres, stores across the country.

AdeyinkaSeun did not solicit for your help to defend him. He defended himself. People who insulted him may have gone over the board for the insults but that didn't give you the right to offer opinions based on ignorance.

Still comparing racism with tribalism is sad. It shows your depth of knowledge of social issues and how it affects individual's psyche.

When foreigners with different colour walks on the street of Lagos, how many people stare at them? Some insulting in their different languages yet they don't scream racism. It is when you leave your own comfort zone and same is done, you start to scream racism.

If at this age, you don't know that in any society, the majority will always try to take advantage or oppress the minority, then you need a lot of life's lessons.

Tribalism is different from racism yet in Nigeria, military was used against a pressure group of a particular tribe while miscreants from another tribe are left to waste innocent souls.

I understand you want to be patriotic but what you are doing is not patriotism. You cannot be more patriotic Nigerian than or up to some of us.

If you have any meaningful contribution aside comparing Nigeria, you can share it, if not take to your advice and don't add to what you have already written.

Wheres the love button....We are really blessed to have Bellong as an admin on this thread..hes so tolerant!#ijusttrytoholdmyselfherebecausetoslapsomepeopledeyhungryme

@Pidgin2,

You have mentioned isolated cases of conquest which is not restricted to any race.
If you know your history, you will understand that within Africa, minority had conquered the majority in the past. Empires have risen and fallen in the past and will still rise and fall in the future. Why are the minority still not in control in the countries you listed?

Things can only go on as long as people don't kick against it.

You took the statement out of context. In any given society, the majority dominates the minority if the minority allows it.

Why I am exchanging posts with you which I usually don't do is to put things in perspective to you and others who may be in your situation.

I will repeat this, Racism, tribalism, discrimination and prejudice are social issues which are part of human existence irrespective of colour or orientation. Across the world, there are too many cases of racism, high scale tribalism, prejudice etc in every country. To expect a society free of them is to have an unrealistic expectations. Show me one single country that is free of any of these social issues and I will bring up numerous data to counter it.

If someone is leaving his country to a place where his group is the minority and expects that there wouldn't be discrimination, that person should rather go to heaven than traveling around the world. We cannot help it as humans, it will surely occur.

Mind you the racism we are talking about here in this country is subtle and not the 18th century racism you have been described. I live in the city which probably has the lowest number of Nigerians and I have not experienced the type of racism you have described.

Before I lose focus of the message, what I am saying is that nobody has described Australia to be heaven or a country without any social or political issues but if you want to live in a reasonable society where quality of life is important to you, Australia is one of the countries to consider. The problem with you and others in your group believe everybody is leaving the country for economic prosperity. Life is more than money my sister. In my experience of living in different societies, Nigeria does not come close to a society with decency.

I read one of your threads where you are complaining about how bad Nigerian doctors are. I believe most of your comments here are just denial of the truth. In a sane society, patients are treated with respect and best care rendered. If Nigeria is all what you claim it is, you should be content with the medical services.

I have enjoyed good medical service at a very cheap cost and also treated with respect by medical professionals. You can't say the same.

Like I said previously, the writer's experience in Melbourne is his experience which I respect but it is not an invitation for you to compare sanity with insanity.

Thank you.

Oga Bellong, do not worry your self any longer.
You have said it all.
Most people traveling out of the country just want good quality of life for their family. I can't imagine bringing up a child in an hostile environment were Nepotism, Favouritism and injustice is considered as a way of life. Thereby throwing out hardwork, justice, fairness, and good qualities that makes a good society.

Some body will work and at the end of the day to pay the worker nah problem.
Just imagine were medical doctors, Nurses, Phamarcist and other Health Personnel will work and at the end of the day, you will be owing them 3, 4 months salaries as the case may be forgotten that they have families and extended families as well to carter for.
Any body comparing Australia to Nigeria is just living in denial.

If you know that the quality of life you want can be found in Nigeria, please stay in Nigeria but if you know that the quality of life you want can not be found in Nigeria but in XYZ country please do relocate to those XYZ Country and live a quality life. Life is just once and must be explored and enjoyed to its conclusion.
God bless you all in everything you do.

We are always welcome to share our experiences in OZ to help others make an informed decision. But to talk down, or degrade Australia that I don't support.

I have families, friends and colleagues who are testimonies to quality of life they got in OZ, no doubt, there were a trying period for them in OZ but that didn't deterred them in any way. In a period of months, they found their feet.
God bless you @ Bellong and other OZ families on the thread!. Peace!.

bellong:
@Pidgin2,

You have mentioned isolated cases of conquest which is not restricted to any race.
If you know your history, you will understand that within Africa, minority had conquered the majority in the past. Empires have risen and fallen in the past and will still rise and fall in the future. Why are the minority still not in control in the countries you listed?

Things can only go on as long as people don't kick against it.

You took the statement out of context. In any given society, the majority dominates the minority if the minority allows it.

Why I am exchanging posts with you which I usually don't do is to put things in perspective to you and others who may be in your situation.

I will repeat this, Racism, tribalism, discrimination and prejudice are social issues which are part of human existence irrespective of colour or orientation. Across the world, there are too many cases of racism, high scale tribalism, prejudice etc in every country. To expect a society free of them is to have an unrealistic expectations. Show me one single country that is free of any of these social issues and I will bring up numerous data to counter it.

If someone is leaving his country to a place where his group is the minority and expects that there wouldn't be discrimination, that person should rather go to heaven than traveling around the world. We cannot help it as humans, it will surely occur.

Mind you the racism we are talking about here in this country is subtle and not the 18th century racism you have been described. I live in the city which probably has the lowest number of Nigerians and I have not experienced the type of racism you have described.

Before I lose focus of the message, what I am saying is that nobody has described Australia to be heaven or a country without any social or political issues but if you want to live in a reasonable society where quality of life is important to you, Australia is one of the countries to consider. The problem with you and others in your group believe everybody is leaving the country for economic prosperity. Life is more than money my sister. In my experience of living in different societies, Nigeria does not come close to a society with decency.

I read one of your threads where you are complaining about how bad Nigerian doctors are. I believe most of your comments here are just denial of the truth. In a sane society, patients are treated with respect and best care rendered. If Nigeria is all what you claim it is, you should be content with the medical services.

I have enjoyed good medical service at a very cheap cost and also treated with respect by medical professionals. You can't say the same.

Like I said previously, the writer's experience in Melbourne is his experience which I respect but it is not an invitation for you to compare sanity with insanity.

Thank you.

@bellong, i will not respond to all your points because I don't want to derail this thread but for the records you mentioned that I have a grievance with medical services in Nigeria. If you read my post I complained about some doctors and not Nigeria as a country, why is it hard to seperate Nigeria from Nigerians?, I complained about their attitude towards their job and fellow country men and women.

When it's private clinic attitude changes but as long as it's govt owned then you might not get the best from them. When did I complain about Nigeria? I spoke about some Nigerian doctor's attitude(those working with govt mostly)

It's our attitude towards govt owned establishment that stinks not govt but our personal attitude. The average Nigerian hates Nigeria, that's why people will spew filth about the country without thinking twice, that's why people will pack poo in a foreign land but in his own country doing it for his fellow Nigerian, he would rather die. Same people that will manage menial jobs abroad for years will remind you that they are graduates over here.

Who threats you right in govt run Australian clinics? Is it not the average nurse or doctor.

^^^

We are actually saying the same thing. I have not and will not talk down on a country. However, a country is not just a geographical entity, it is the people that are there.

If your complain is about the doctors which is the same as the medical services that I referred to. The doctors and other medical professionals are those offering the medical services.

How many people can afford to pay for the services offered in those good private clinics or hospitals? Basic quality medical services should be available to all irrespective of the size of pocket. If doctors in government hospitals in Nigeria misbehave without control, how does that help your course of campaign? Shouldn't something have been done to check it if it is a society where things work?

The doctors are not different from an average person on the street which is why some have out of the world expectations of another society.

I believe you got my point about not comparing the two countries. Once again, it is not everybody that is leaving for economic prosperity. There are so many Nigerians living here who choose not to work or start a business here because they have a thriving business in Nigeria. They are here to enjoy the quality of life in a sane society while they make their money where they want.

By comparing menial jobs in Nigeria with a sane society is not fair on yourself. Majority work to be able to put food on their table and also provide for their family. There is dignity in labour in this society, it doesn't matter what you do, you will be treated with respect as long as you not defrauding others. The director of your company cannot look down on you because you are a cleaner except he is willing to lose his position. The pay is enough to cater for everything you need and still have savings. How many cleaners, factory workers etc living in Nigeria have enough to pay rent and other utilities and still have savings?

If people choose to do those jobs outside Nigeria, it is their choice as long as they are happy with what they are doing. I know people who are doing such jobs not because of the money but because they like it. I know the son of a very wealthy person who chose to be a truck driver because he loves it.

If by tomorrow those menial jobs become financially viable, I believe thousands of graduate wouldn't mind doing them in Nigeria. It is the money they offer that discourage people not because they can't do it. Typical example, when Dangote advertised for truck drivers, PhD holders applied because of the remuneration attached.

On a final note, always make contributions about a thing when you are adequately informed about it.

Cheers

pidgin2 is here!

If y'all know the kind of character behind that handle, nobody
will take a second to reply her.

She will derail the thread and even tell you guys living in Aussie
that life sucks for y'all.

suxes2005:
pidgin2 is here!

If y'all know the kind of character behind that handle, nobody
will take a second to reply her.

She will derail the thread and even tell you guys living in Aussie
that life sucks for y'all.

Lol.. Bellong doesn't know that moniker. She/he might also be d one behind d adeyinka of a person since d moniker was created this month. Nobody shld pay attention to them as they'll fade into oblivion.

bellong:
@Pidgin2,

I think I have to respond to your comeback.

For a start, this thread is for people to share their experiences about settling down in Australia and not for pro or pan African campaign. It will be better you leave your campaign for Nigeria aside and let this thread serve its purpose.

Your comparison of racism and tribalism has ignorance written all over it. Your assertions are lame about racism and tribalism. Both are social issues that affect psychology of anyone who has experienced it irrespective of how hard they pretend not to be affected.

Who says people of different race are not allowed to open business or allowed to go to the best school?

Comparing the data speed of Nigeria with that of Australia is the height of your joke.

Could you please take your campaign outside of this thread. If there is need for a debate about why Nigeria is a better place to live than Australia, you can open a new thread for it.

Thank you.

Do not waste your time with her. U can see she has been on a long ban and so during that period there was relative peace on Nairaland now she is back from the ban. I am quite surr she has learnt her lessons. If u see her comment pass by cos its is completely bereft of facts, logic and sense.

suxes2005:
pidgin2 is here!

If y'all know the kind of character behind that handle, nobody
will take a second to reply her.

She will derail the thread and even tell you guys living in Aussie
that life sucks for y'all.

Hahahahaaha so u know that fellow. She came out from a long ban so she has been silent. It was today she was released. Anyway she must ve learnt her lessons. She would be much more careful this time.

Pidgin2:
@bellong, i will not respond to all your points because I don't want to derail this thread but for the records you mentioned that I have a grievance with medical services in Nigeria. If you read my post I complained about some doctors and not Nigeria as a country, why is it hard to seperate Nigeria from Nigerians?, I complained about their attitude towards their job and fellow country men and women.

When it's private clinic attitude changes but as long as it's govt owned then you might not get the best from them. When did I complain about Nigeria? I spoke about some Nigerian doctor's attitude(those working with govt mostly)

It's our attitude towards govt owned establishment that stinks not govt but our personal attitude. The average Nigerian hates Nigeria, that's why people will spew filth about the country without thinking twice, that's why people will pack poo in a foreign land but in his own country doing it for his fellow Nigerian, he would rather die. Same people that will manage menial jobs abroad for years will remind you that they are graduates over here.

Who threats you right in govt run Australian clinics? Is it not the average nurse or doctor.

U don return from your long ban?
There was peace when u were away. I hope u wud behave?

Please @Bellong I'd like to ask? are skilled nominated PR ( i.e on 189, 190) allowed to start businesses. Thank you

SallyAUS:
Please @Bellong I'd like to ask? are skilled nominated PR ( i.e on 189, 190) allowed to start businesses. Thank you

Everybody with the right to live and work in the country can start any business of his choice. No restrictions whatsoever.

bellong:


Everybody with the right to live and work in the country can start any business of his choice. No restrictions whatsoever.

Thank you, for the response. God Bless

To those who are interested, Jesuit Social Services are having an information session on the African Australian Inclusion Program in Sydney. The program is primarily to help Africans who are having a challenge with getting a job as a result of not having local experience. Its a 6-month paid work experience with NAB.

Date - 15th February 2018
Time - 9.30am to 12.30pm
Venue - NAB, The Auditorium, 105 Miller Street, North Sydney

You will need to register prior to attending and take a photo ID along on the day of the event.

For registration, I think you will be able to do that on the Jesuit Social Services website.

All the best

bellong:
@Pidgin2,

You have mentioned isolated cases of conquest which is not restricted to any race.
If you know your history, you will understand that within Africa, minority had conquered the majority in the past. Empires have risen and fallen in the past and will still rise and fall in the future. Why are the minority still not in control in the countries you listed?

Things can only go on as long as people don't kick against it.

You took the statement out of context. In any given society, the majority dominates the minority if the minority allows it.

Why I am exchanging posts with you which I usually don't do is to put things in perspective to you and others who may be in your situation.

I will repeat this, Racism, tribalism, discrimination and prejudice are social issues which are part of human existence irrespective of colour or orientation. Across the world, there are too many cases of racism, high scale tribalism, prejudice etc in every country. To expect a society free of them is to have an unrealistic expectations. Show me one single country that is free of any of these social issues and I will bring up numerous data to counter it.

If someone is leaving his country to a place where his group is the minority and expects that there wouldn't be discrimination, that person should rather go to heaven than traveling around the world. We cannot help it as humans, it will surely occur.

Mind you the racism we are talking about here in this country is subtle and not the 18th century racism you have been described. I live in the city which probably has the lowest number of Nigerians and I have not experienced the type of racism you have described.

Before I lose focus of the message, what I am saying is that nobody has described Australia to be heaven or a country without any social or political issues but if you want to live in a reasonable society where quality of life is important to you, Australia is one of the countries to consider. The problem with you and others in your group believe everybody is leaving the country for economic prosperity. Life is more than money my sister. In my experience of living in different societies, Nigeria does not come close to a society with decency.

I read one of your threads where you are complaining about how bad Nigerian doctors are. I believe most of your comments here are just denial of the truth. In a sane society, patients are treated with respect and best care rendered. If Nigeria is all what you claim it is, you should be content with the medical services.

I have enjoyed good medical service at a very cheap cost and also treated with respect by medical professionals. You can't say the same.

Like I said previously, the writer's experience in Melbourne is his experience which I respect but it is not an invitation for you to compare sanity with insanity.

Thank you.

100% on point.

When I read the post @AdeyinkaSeun I showed it to a friend who has been living in Melbourne for 4 years now and he said -

1. Na back of Melbourne him come?

2. I know wetin him dey try do, he just want to discourage pple.

That was his opinion.

My opinion is that he went too far and exagerated a lot trying to manage pple’s expectations, at least he should have compared Australia to Nigeria where I believe most pple on this thread live.

As someone noted earlier in this thread, prepare when coming anyway. It might not be as you expect job wise when you just come in, but it will be after some time and that is the case with many migrants at first regardless of skin color.

I have been here only 3 months and wish I have been here years ago; things work in this country. I am the only black person in my company & have never experienced racism; at least for now rather they want to know more about my country and culture.

I encourage everyone on this quest not to relent,
It is well worth it.

ChristoBam:

Why am I so pained I'd have given you the answer you deserve but I could get banned so I'll let it pass. I only gave him my advice and told him I've had people that did the same thing he wants to do and regret it. If those people were adviced the same way we are advising this guy, they wouldn't be regretting by now. Anyone that cannot progress in those countries because of racism cannot and I repeat cannot achieve anything meaningful in Nigeria.
I don't even know you'd still be advising anyone to relocate to Nigeria till this moment. I used to think you stopped commenting on this travel threads because Nigeria is gradually becoming a country you cannot defend.
Anyways I'm not here to bad mouth Nigeria or list the problems with it, I'm sure you know everything deep down inside you but you're used to the decay in this country. You've never been to any of these countries so you wouldn't know the advantages of living in an organized society.
The guy is free to take whatever decision he wants to, all I'm doing is to advise him. Whatever decision he takes, he should think of his kids before he takes it.

She stopped commenting cos she was on a very long ban.

Albion05:
Thanks dear, I appreciate.
I won't talk more on this, I have gotten what I wanted to know about the moniker. His/her post says it all.

If u ve read her past posts u would see I ve been a plague to her cos her posts can be so annoying. Because she just came out from a long ban she is now very careful if not she would have insulted anyone that speaks negatively of Nigeria. Happily enough she has learnt her lessons.
The funny thing is that she has never travelled out of Nigeria but would take the first seat in comparing Nigeria with other countries.

I have been following this thread silently for a while and as a Nigerian who has lived in Australia for 6 years, in the UK for 5 years prior to moving to Australia and visited North America and Europe severally for extended periods, my take is that Australia is the best country of all. Due to the nature of my husband’s job, we lived in various parts of England and Scotland, and had reason to visit virtually every corner of the UK and we experienced varying degree of racism all through. Caucasian families in my children’s school would not allow their children interact with ours outside the classroom and even co-workers will ignore us when we run into them in outside of work.
During my last extended holiday in the US the fear of crime and of course racial profiling was palpable in the air that I could not wait to hop on the plane home. We are Canadian PR holders because our family were breaking their heads that we are too far from the rest of the family in the Uk and the US, and when we did our landing in Calgary a couple years ago there was nothing there to convince us to choose Canada over Australia.
Australia has been a breath of fresh air for us. We came out to Australia out of curiosity and from the moment we landed here Australians and Australia have been generous to us. My children are often the only dark skinned children in their schools but the support they receive from classmate and teachers is commendable. Their birthday parties are usually parked full with all classmates and friends honouring invites. The life and freedom we enjoy in this country is a far cry from our experience in Nigeria. My family left Nigeria after series of armed robbery attacks on us and we did not want to raise our children in such an environment. There are no restrictions on us as immigrants, we get offered good jobs, are free to buy real estate wherever we please and many Nigerians here run their own businesses that are doing marvellously well.

Sadly many Nigerians who leave home in adulthood fail to realise that they are joining a new system halfway and so must have to pay their dues first before they start reaping from the new system.you don’t expect to land in Australia with your Nigerian degree and experience and expect red carpet receptions at workplaces. No! You must be humble and know that you are laying a foundation for a bright future and so learn from that ‘ unpleasant’ first job. In that factory job, you will learn communication and slangs that will help you in that high flying job that you are aiming for. In same job you will learn how to manage little cash flow so when the mega bucks come rolling in you will not lose it and waste it all. Please my fellow Nigerians, do not despise humble beginnings and be patient. Australia is huge and opportunities abound in different places so don’t be afraid to change location in the pursuit of your dreams. We all know that the people on Centrelink payments here are far better than millions of workers in our country Nigeria where youth unemployment is currently at 60%. So anyone who God has blessed with being a part of Australia should show appreciation and not talk her down. Also there are no guards at the airports stopping people from leaving Australia so if you find it’s not for you then please leave!
Regarding internet speed, look of houses etc I think any comparison with Nigeria is a cruel joke. Most of the finest expensive cars and houses are owned by immigrants including Nigerians. The posh schools in my state are attended by children of immigrants of which many Nigerians are part of. So abeg, lets be objective in our reasoning and not allow temporary hardship cloud our judgement. As for crime, I have never heard that armed robbers stormed people's homes in Australia for hours on ending since I left Nigeria.

Onyxnaija just said it all.

I really don't know why someone who just experienced 2 to 3 months of job hunting after landing in Oz will use that to condemn a topnotch country when he or she knows there are so much sufferings in Nigeria. You are in paradise and you want to jumb from Paradise to burning fire that's is the case of Adeyinka.

For those that are already there should thank God for the opportunity and do their best to benefit maximally from what the country has for all her citizens and permanent Residents.

It will be foolish of one to return back to Nigeria after spending so much resources and time on securing a PR. Just wait , gain ones citizenship first before returning so that one can enter the country any time without restriction.

AladdinAladdin

You just registered today 7 February, 2018. You must be pidgin2. Very very sure of this.

But that doesn't stop the fact that OZ is a nice country to live. No amount of discouraging words can change those planning to make the move. So many persons have been testifying to how the system has benefited them. Nigeria is not a nice place to raise children let alone live comfortably. And that's the reason why many are making the move not for economy prosperity but for the sake of a system that protect the interest of the masses, offer you a good living and a peaceful lifestyle.

Nigeria is hot at the moment. So many killings by herdsmen and the government is doing nothing. So many kidnappings and robberies. A self-sufficient man in Nigeria can't move in the street without walaying him on the road.

We need a nice environment to stay and raise our children, and that's the first priority of the majority of those that have migrated. We need a peace of mind which Nigeria had denied us over the years.

Our dear country Nigeria is far far behind. And no amount of restructuring will make things better any time soon.

I commend your patriotism, however, Nigeria is beyond repair for now.

I think some people are just trying to be mischievous and keen on derailing this thread. People should just ignore such characters. Jump and pass their posts.

Our ever-willing Nairaland families in the same Melbourne have offered to meet up with him for chat/tips and I don't think he has taken up the offer.

We are one large family here, helping each other, let no one think he/she can scatter us.

To the troubled soul(s), may you be delivered and find peace wherever you are and choose to be eventually.