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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:22am On Feb 10, 2018
Kenyanna:

Is that guy Kenyan?
Can you imagine the irony if him telling me to ask for a school refund after saying Maasais are Bantu speakers. Not even an amateur tourist would make such a fool of themselves. These google arm-chair professors are killing the internet.

Dude maasais are not bantu..they are plain nilotes sir..but seriously i read ya topic on Beautiful Kenyans (the only one grin) an i feel ya broh..There was once a sista known as noweuse.used to call us names an referred to us as darkies an other horrible names..but hey i really really don wan go back to comparison thingy ..Kenyans are fine lot an it doesnt matter where they come from ...Problem is when we go full tribal...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 2:23pm On Feb 10, 2018
mtis:


Fck off Mr Scrooge ya called me out the other day..But anyway welcome back an stop ya freaking politico posts...It scaring some Kenyans cheesy ...An you got agree with me that the kenyanna dude sounds more like you.... grin

You'll never get it! My problem isn't political but conmanship by a mass murderer and serial political swindler you worship-you know his name. Imo,he's the class clown whose farts draw screams of laughter from geniuses like you:this gives the dude the confidence to imagine he can overthrow not only the class teacher but the headmaster! Shindwe kabisa?!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:50pm On Feb 10, 2018
kikuyu1:


You'll never get it! My problem isn't political but conmanship by a mass murderer and serial political swindler you worship-you know his name. Imo,he's the class clown whose farts draw screams of laughter from geniuses like you:this gives the dude the confidence to imagine he can overthrow not only the class teacher but the headmaster! Shindwe kabisa?!

OK kyk1 ya totally fcked up grin.Man you got this crazy way of describing Rao..Truth some of us might not agree on what is happening but we dont go throwing curses ....like ya just called someone a mass murder.. Totally not good kyk1 cool....if you really want to have a healthy debate just stop the cursing...ya might get surprised how folks will respond...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:56pm On Feb 10, 2018
I thought the Lagos marathon was today undecided have we taken the money yet

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:06pm On Feb 10, 2018
kikuyu1:


You'll never get it! My problem isn't political but conmanship by a mass murderer and serial political swindler you worship-you know his name. Imo,he's the class clown whose farts draw screams of laughter from geniuses like you:this gives the dude the confidence to imagine he can overthrow not only the class teacher but the headmaster! Shindwe kabisa?!
You're the only person here giving the "swearing in" importance. Just a political statement. Your kind are the loose canons running around detaining anybody who looks Luo out of fear of alot of nothingness.

Did you see us discussing the mock swearing here? We know it for what it was intended to be. Now calm down and let everybody else who is not as much invested in everything Raila and Uhuru does discuss other issues. We don't sleep and wake up following everything the tribal kingpins do. That's for villagers who think presidents actually rule because they care. And the ethnic tenderpreneures who benefit from government tenders, of course.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 10:23am On Feb 11, 2018
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I agree with you that Its not as simple as saying one is better but I was specific about infrastructure and education.
Those beautiful places in Nigeria you see, how many is as a result of governments direct effort, whereas the pictures from the Kenyan side show communal facilities, not someone's private property.
A house/hotel is not infrastructure,
Education: I for one don't rank Universities based on its Webometrics ranking. I look at things like Research output, Quality of research, and sometimes the number of international students in the institution. the public institutions in Kenya are way ahead in that regards as at now.
I am very excited about Convenant Univerisity though, their research output is impressive.


Like you I also abhor life in Lagos despite having lived most of my life there, commuting 5 hours a day is not easy, i am considering moving to a city like Ibadan, Akure or Ilorin, Problem is getting a job in those cities..
All that said, the opportunity in Nigeria is enormous,we just need to get things right.




You are very correct in your informed view.... The rapid development happening in Kenya is the reason why the GDP is growing at 5-6% despite the politics....
KENYA INDUSTRIES
TEA FACTORY & TEA ESTATES(farms)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 10:51am On Feb 11, 2018
Kenyanstar:


You are very correct in your informed view.... The rapid development happening in Kenya is the reason why the GDP is growing at 5-6% despite the politics....
KENYA INDUSTRIES
TEA FACTORY & TEA ESTATES(farms)
This is nice but was thesame for most African countries in 2017, majority grew at 5-6%.
The African Development Bank just released this report of growth across Africa.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 10:58am On Feb 11, 2018
Daejoyoung:

This is nice but was thesame for most African countries in 2017, majority grew at 5-6%.
The African Development Bank just released this report of growth across Africa.
You are incorrect, the ADB report was that the average of almost 95% of countries in Africa grew at a maximum rate of 3%... The exceptinal countries that grew at over 5-6% were Kenya, Ethiopia, Ghana and Rwanda.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 11:02am On Feb 11, 2018
Kenyanstar:

You are incorrect, the ADB report was that the average of almost 95% of countries in Africa grew at a maximum rate of 3%... The exceptinal countries that grew at over 5-6% were Kenya, Ethiopia, Ghana and Rwanda.
Ok then, l hope you sustain it though, from 2009-2014, we grew at an average of 6% even at a GDP of 300Billion dollars and a rebased GDP of 594Billion dollars in 2014, but now in 2017, we could only manage a 1% growth(after recession in 2016) and a 390Billion dollar GDP.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 11:10am On Feb 11, 2018
Kenyanstar:

You are incorrect, the ADB report was that the average of almost 95% of countries in Africa grew at a maximum rate of 3%... The exceptinal countries that grew at over 5-6% were Kenya, Ethiopia, Ghana and Rwanda.

This is what was reported though...
https://www.nairaland.com/4339499/18-african-countries-grew-gdp
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:20am On Feb 11, 2018
Kenyanstar:


You are very correct in your informed view.... The rapid development happening in Kenya is the reason why the GDP is growing at 5-6% despite the politics....
KENYA INDUSTRIES
TEA FACTORY & TEA ESTATES(farms)
These community based industries like tea, milk and sugar are also playing a huge role in bettering the quality of life ...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:20pm On Feb 11, 2018
Kenyanstar:


You are very correct in your informed view.... The rapid development happening in Kenya is the reason why the GDP is growing at 5-6% despite the politics....
KENYA INDUSTRIES
TEA FACTORY & TEA ESTATES(farms)

Totally agree with you. 5% growth in such an environment is a good show of how resilient Kenyan economy is.Seriously we only need to readjust our priorities an we can hit 9 % or 10% growth rate.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 12:40pm On Feb 11, 2018
Daejoyoung:


This is what was reported though...
https://www.nairaland.com/4339499/18-african-countries-grew-gdp
The parameters that ADB uses are basically what are essential pivotal points for any growth projection in a country.... For example the similarity between the Sahel solar project projected to produce upto 10,000 MW of power is a direct correlation to the Kenyan solar power plant in Northern part of te country that is going to be the biggest in Central & Sub Saharan Africa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 1:07pm On Feb 11, 2018
mtis:


Totally agree with you. 5% growth in such an environment is a good show of how resilient Kenyan economy is.Seriously we only need to readjust our priorities an we can hit 9 % or 10% growth rate.
Yeah l think Kenya and Ethiopia would catch up with Morocco very soon at this rate, though Ethiopia has devalued their currency.
Kenya and Ethiopia were once on thesame level with Ghana, at about 45Billion dollars in 2013, but now see how far they have come in just 4years, though population also plays a major role.
Some of the countries with perhaps the brightest future in Sub Saharan Africa though are North Sudan and Rwanda.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 1:30pm On Feb 11, 2018
KENYA INFRASTRUCTURE Kenya infrastructure is undergoing massive expansion for a country of 40m....

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 1:36pm On Feb 11, 2018
Kenya infrastructure

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:38pm On Feb 11, 2018
Kenyanstar:


You are very correct in your informed view.... The rapid development happening in Kenya is the reason why the GDP is growing at 5-6% despite the politics....
KENYA INDUSTRIES
TEA FACTORY & TEA ESTATES(farms)

I know a little about the tea biz and I can say despite problems its the most important part of our export sector,hands down!

Since then, tea has played an important and increasing role in Kenya’s socio-economic development. It is the leading industrial crop in terms of its contribution to GDP. In 2016, tea accounted for 40% of Kenya’s marketed agricultural production and contributed 25% of total export earnings. In addition, tea provides livelihoods to over 600,000 smallholders who contribute about 60% of tea production.

Last year, as in other years, tea was Kenya’s leading export commodity with earnings increasing from US$1.2 billion in 2015 to US$1.25 billion in 2016, followed by horticulture ($1.13 billion) and coffee ($210 million).
[url]https://www.acbf-pact.org/media/news/kenya%E2%80%99s-tea-sector-needs-new-policies-boost-revenues-%E2%80%93-kippraacbf-study[/url]
Fyi,Zambians,Ugandans,Rwandese and Saffas have all tried to replicate our tea production processes,the nucleus small holder farms linked to a factory with local buying centres ensuring quality but have failed.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 1:44pm On Feb 11, 2018
Kenya railway infrastructure is undergoing the biggest overhaul since the first rail in the late 1800's

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:51pm On Feb 11, 2018
Muafrika2:

You're the only person here giving the "swearing in" importance. Just a political statement. Your kind are the loose canons running around detaining anybody who looks Luo out of fear of alot of nothingness.

Did you see us discussing the mock swearing here? We know it for what it was intended to be. Now calm down and let everybody else who is not as much invested in everything Raila and Uhuru does discuss other issues. We don't sleep and wake up following everything the tribal kingpins do. That's for villagers who think presidents actually rule because they care. And the ethnic tenderpreneures who benefit from government tenders, of course.

Actually I'm too busy with farming and derivatives trading to detain anyone-you're PROJECTING and as usual you're also wrong! I'm not a villager and neither am I an ethnic tenderpreneur.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 1:52pm On Feb 11, 2018
Kenya railway infrastructure

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 2:00pm On Feb 11, 2018
Kenya railway ultra modern infrastructure

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 2:14pm On Feb 11, 2018
Daejoyoung:

ok, but the comparison is meaningless, for example when you say education you may judge based on rankings from webometrics, some may find that too simplistic. Also Nigeria is a big country and far more populated than Kenya. l do not live in Lagos for instance, but my kind of person abhors the life in Lagos, while a host of my family members love Lagos, and it goes on and on.
For infrastructure, a sizeable part of the Kenyan population have constant electricity(though they produce less megawatts in general than Nigeria) also because of this, there's a better ease of doing business in Kenya. that's as far as it goes.
What else do you have in Nairobi in terms of infrastructure? the rail from mombassa to Nairobi shouldn't be compared to the ongoing massive rail projects across Nigeria.
Whatever the Kenyans have posted here in terms of beauty, structures or architectures, they are not in short supply across Nigeria as well.
ln summary, it is not as simple as saying this one is better than this one. Kenya is a much smaller country than Nigeria in terms of population and also in size, though this is not an excuse, it is a viable point, and thus the comparison sometimes would always be fruitless.
Despite all the evidence both pictures & references Nigerian have refused to admit that Kenya is way ahead of them in every sector. The above pictures of our railway upgrade is a perfect example of the steps that Kenya has initiated in domineering the import market to its neighboring countries.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 2:39pm On Feb 11, 2018
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I know the argument is long overdue but, i'll just like to educate my fellow Nigerians..
Nigeria has the potential for a lot more but the political class won't let it be.
First criteria is quality of life. The quality of life is better by far in Kenya.
Electricity: Power was stable during my four months stay, no single outage except on one occasion when we were given notice for routine maintenance.

Transportation: Matatus are cheap 10, 20 shillings for the same distance that will cost you 150 - 250 in Lagos,
also very comfortable 3 a seat compared to 4 a seat in lagos,
very easy to move around at any time of the day.
I used to wonder why transportation in Kenya was cheap despite paying more money for fuel per litre and the high costs of clearing vehicles
from the port in Mombassa.
I came to one conclusion greed.

Education: Check University rankings, take some Nigerians through the Kenyan public school system they will turn out a lot better.

Orderliness: you don't see Kenyans jumping queue anyhow.




Every country has it's challenges but its good that you are being open about the 2 countries. I love to hear advice from a foreigners point of view.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 3:26pm On Feb 11, 2018
Kenyanstar:

Despite all the evidence both pictures & references Nigerian have refused to admit that Kenya is way ahead of them in every sector. The above pictures of our railway upgrade is a perfect example of the steps that Kenya has initiated in domineering the import market to its neighboring countries.
My point is simple, there is no basis for comparison, railway development is ongoing in Nigeria too, and it's foolish to compare it's scale to that of Kenya.
Kenya is not ahead of Nigeria in every sector, that's a misleading title by the OP.
For example there are threads on Nairaland that shows so many indigenous industries in Nigeria l never knew existed, and there were so many of them which l verified myself, unfortunately these threads were tainted and inspired by tribal slurs but informative anyway.

https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe

https://www.nairaland.com/3926379/igbos-most-industrious-innovative-richest
The informal Nigerian private sector is huge, although l agree Nigeria is lagging behind Kenya in terms of public services and some major infrastructures.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 3:55pm On Feb 11, 2018
There is no absolute winner, you can only discuss what each country is doing right or wrong.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Emmandus(m): 7:18pm On Feb 11, 2018
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 10:58pm On Feb 11, 2018
Kenyanstar:


You are very correct in your informed view.... The rapid development happening in Kenya is the reason why the GDP is growing at 5-6% despite the politics....
KENYA INDUSTRIES
TEA FACTORY & TEA ESTATES(farms)

What is Kenya’s economy based on? Tourism and Tea?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by sHOTdownHawk: 4:45am On Feb 12, 2018
nwoke37:


What is Kenya’s economy based on? Tourism and Tea?

Its funny that u asked. Have always wondered what Nigerias economy based on. The UK have annoused today that they will be accepting Naira. I mean u can change your kenyan shilling all over Europe but no nairas.u cant even wipe ass wit Naira. I think its a crime that Nigeria exist.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke37: 6:42am On Feb 12, 2018
sHOTdownHawk:


Its funny that u asked. Have always wondered what Nigerias economy based on. The UK have annoused today that they will be accepting Naira. I mean u can change your kenyan shilling all over Europe but no nairas.u cant even wipe ass wit Naira. I think its a crime that Nigeria exist.

Funny I didn’t mean that as an insult. It was a sincere question.Luckily I found out that processing is also part of Kenya’s economy. Kenya’s economy is doing better than Nigeria’s. Kenya wasn’t as afected by commodity crashes like Nigeria and South Africa were. It shows that Kenya’s economy is resilient. So whatever Kenya is doing, it’s working...

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