Let us have this referendum, I bet you it will end up like the one which created Bendel (people will unite behind their history and precolonial countries).
Those who don't understand history will learn a huge lesson.
I am all for referendum.

gidgiddy:


Thats like asking who requested to be Nigerian? I know my peoples history and I do not remember at any time they took up sny agitation to join Nigeria.

So those who seek referendum are actually doing good because they give people a choice to decide where they want to belong. Unlike the British who made everyone 'Nigerian' without the option of choice.

fratermathy:


As long as your referendum is properly limited to those who want it, then by all means carry on!

But don't arrogate yourselves into demi-gods and think you can speak for other groups in the South. That's where the line will be drawn.

It may interest you to know that Referendum is the only instrument that allows the ethnic nationalities to speak for themselves. So when you say "speak for other groups in the south", that one is strange. As I said in a previous post, nobody has the strenght to fight for independence of others and those who seek a referendum such as me are far more intetested in our kith and kin in Delta state. Nobody is losing any sleep over Urhobo/Isoko/Itsekiri, that these ethnic nationalities happen to be in Delta state is why we are even having this conversation. But dont worry, hopefully, Anioma state will be created before the referendum so we can concentrate on those seeking independence.

Efewestern:


I asked you a question, Yorubas are currently fighting to have the itsekiri's into their fold, so because they share same state with Anioma should they conduct Oduduwa Referendum in anioma land?

Of course. It is then for Anioma to either vote that they want Oduduwa or the can reject them by eith not voting at all or voting "No"

Referendum is the right to choose.

gidgiddy:


Thats like asking who requested to be Nigerian? I know my peoples history and I do not remember at any time they took up sny agitation to join Nigeria.

So those who seek referendum are actually doing good because they give people a choice to decide where they want to belong. Unlike the British who made everyone 'Nigerian' without the option of choice.

Get that damn referendum fast

IPOB and their supporters keep on disgracing themselves .They have no single shame.Look at the way they are including other Ethnic group even after their leaders have warned them to remove them from their useless map. What is really wrong with IPOB ?Is't by force for Minority tribe to join them in Biafra .This is the reason that Biafra will never work. Limit Biafra map to only Igbos in South East and South South they will never listen. How can referendum will be conducted on the tribes that have not request for referendum? Please people should stop insulting Ndigbo for IPOB Foolishness rather they should face IPOB.

I can't for the life of me understand why you IPOB people delight in bringing ridicule to Ndiigbo and assigning relevancy to irrelevant groups in SS who would then use it as a ladder to pile insults and disgrace on Ndiigbo.

Are you people masochists or what?

Why exactly are you people like this.

pazienza:
I can't for the life of me understand why you IPOB people delight in bringing ridicule to Ndiigbo and assigning relevancy to irrelevant groups in SS who would then use it as a ladder to pile insults and disgrace on Ndiigbo.

Are you people masochists or what?

Why exactly are you people like this.

I don tire for these IPOB miscreants, they can never learn.
Bringing unecessary insults on Igbos from some ethnic groups whose population isn't up to the population of Onitsha alone.

You want a referendum and a Biafra but haven't consulted with Igbos and other groups if they want a referendum or not, you just want to force it on everyone as if they must have no say in the running of their lives and future. IPOB knows best and must speak for everybody, fools.

I pity those who thing think the people of S/S will like to stay in the islamic republic of nigeria.i know that if the S/E chooses to leave nigeria today,akwa ibomites and all s.s states will leave this forsaken country where our oil is stolen to feed the islamic parasites.God will surely punish afonjas who thing we are happy with them,when they have stolen the oil coys and ports from the s.s.I love Nnamdi Kanu with all my heart.i wish we had just ONE person like him.we the s.s and the s.e will never know real polical freedom until we leave this shithole.Philip effiong and ojukwu have set a path for us just utman dan fodio set a path for the sons of futa jalon.it is not our fault that eternal servitude to the north is the path set for afonjas.

We won't serve the north, the west or the east.
Before nigeria started we had our own countries/country and that is what we will return to.

royalleopard:
I pity those who thing think the people of S/S will like to stay in the islamic republic of nigeria.i know that if the S/E chooses to leave nigeria today,akwa ibomites and all s.s states will leave this forsaken country where our oil is stolen to feed the islamic parasites.God will surely punish afonjas who thing we are happy with them,when they have stolen the oil coys and ports from the s.s.I love Nnamdi Kanu with all my heart.i wish we had just ONE person like him.we the s.s and the s.e will never know real polical freedom until we leave this shithole.Philip effiong and ojukwu have set a path for us just utman dan fodio set a path for the sons of futa jalon.it is not our fault that eternal servitude to the north is the path set for afonjas.

fratermathy:


I doubt that and if so, he has no such right! All we are saying is that we should be the ones to say what we want. No one should speak on our behalf.

what am saying is, even if Urhorbo people want in, Igbo people still have the right to vote whether to let them in or not. it goes both ways you know, and I am yet to see what strategic benefits of having your people in Biafra, so who is always including you guys in that IPOB? hope it is not that your brother that is in IPOB?.

Malawian:

what am saying is, even if Urhorbo people want in, Igbo people still have the right to vote whether to let them in or not. it goes both ways you know, and I am yet to see what strategic benefits of having your people in Biafra, so who is always including you guys in that IPOB? hope it is not that your brother that is in IPOB?.

Anybody can be in IPOB. In fact, during the Biafran war, there were Yoruba and even soldiers from the North fighting for Biafra but they did so at their INDIVIDUAL level and didn't DRAG their ethnicities into it. So your not-quite-subtle derisive remarks don't hold waters here. Even now, I daresay that many Yorubas and even Hausas are in IPOB and not all Igbos are in support of IPOB. Infact, many Igbos may be partaking in Oodua and Arewa meetings.

We don't want to be in Biafra so we will save you the vote. Thanks. If we want to opt out of this ship, we'll board ours and ours alone or board that of those we can check and who also can check us.

fratermathy:


Anybody can be in IPOB. In fact, in the Biafran war, there were Yoruba and even Hausa soldiers fighting for Biafra, but they did so at their INDIVIDUAL level and didn't seek to DRAG their ethnicities into it. So your not-quite-subtle derisive remarks don't hold waters here. Even now, I daresay that many Yorubas and even Hausas are in IPOB!

We don't want to be in Biafra so we will save you the vote. Thanks. If we want to opt out of this ship, we'll board ours and ours alone or board that of those we can check and who also can check us.

Are you speaking for your ethnic group or as an individual?

Malawian:

Are you speaking for your ethnic group or as an individual?

I am only echoing what my ethnic group has said via its official mouthpiece, Urhobo Progress Union and what is the sentiment in many other groups and fora.

UPU and other highly placed Urhobo leaders have said it times without number and since 2014 that Urhobos are not interested. Just respect our wishes already.

How hard is it for IPOB to respect itself, respect other ethnicities and let sleeping dogs lie?

You must serve your masters. tinuba is doing that for your people.i would have asked you to revolt against him but i know cowardice is embeded in your genetic code.E kpele, please just accept your fate.

fratermathy:


I am only echoing what my ethnic group has said via its official mouthpiece, Urhobo Progress Union and what is the sentiment in many other groups and fora.

UPU and other highly placed Urhobo leaders have said it times without number and since 2014, that Urhobos are not interested. Just respect our wishes already.

whatever elite Urhorbo leadership are saying may or may not be the position of the large majority of the ethnic group. We know that they can be bought over to sing the songs of their pay masters. We Igbos have the same thing in "Ohanaeze" and whoever is that they are purporting to be their Apex mouthpiece.
please, who fears a referendum if he is already sure of his people's position? at this juncture, I will tell you something you won't want to hear. The girl I am with now is an Urhobo girl. Obviously, not all Urhorbo share your Igbo mindset.

Malawian:

whatever elite Urhorbo leadership are saying may or may not be the position of the large majority of the ethnic group. We know that they can be bought over to sing the songs of their pay masters. We Igbos have the same thing in "Ohanaeze" and whoever is that they are purporting to be their Apex mouthpiece.
please, who wears a referendum if he is already sure of his people's position? at this juncture, I will tell you something you won't want to hear. The girl I am with now is an Urhobo girl. Obviously, not all Urhorbo share your Igbo mindset.

I am with an Igbo girl and she doesn't want Biafra so what's your point with the girl analogy?

If Urhobos want Biafra as badly as you would want to believe or portray, why then are they silent about it? Why have they not protested in Warri, Ughelli, Abraka, Sapele, etc? Infact, why are they not propagating it online like you lots are doing? I would love to see videos of Urhobos proclaiming Biafra in Urhobo language!

Please get a life and stop drooling over Urhobo, a "landlocked region", to borrow you and Pazienza's self-consolatory words.

Everyday, I see Igbos criticising Ohaneze over various policies and stands. I wonder why Urhobos have not criticised UPU over its stand on Biafra. I really wonder! Are Urhobos mute? Or the Urhobo Biafrans are just so quiet?

Maybe Urhobos just want Igbos to do all the hard work and reap the fruits at the end. I think this may be the real case. Go on and get yourselves killed, guttered and muddied. When Biafra comes, Urhobos will join by then . Deluded lots!

fratermathy:


I am with an Igbo girl and she doesn't want Biafra so what's your point with the girl analogy?

If Urhobos want Biafra as badly as you would want to believe or portray, why then are they silent about it? Why have they not protested in Warri, Ughelli, Abraka, Sapele, etc? Infact, why are they not propagating it online like you lots are doing?

Please get a life and stop drooling over Urhobo, a "landlocked region", to borrow you and Pazienza's words.

Everyday, I see Igbos criticising Ohaneze over various policies and stands. I wonder why Urhobos have not criticised UPU over its stand on Biafra. I really wonder? Are Urhobos mute? Or the Urhobo Biafrans are just so quiet?

Maybe Urhobos just want Igbos to do all the hard work and reap the fruits at the end. I think this may be the real case. Go on and get yourselves killed, guttered and muddied. When Biafra comes, Urhobos will join by then . Deluded lots!

wouldn't their position be known once and for all in a referendum?

Malawian:

wouldn't their position be known once and for all in a referendum?

And when did they ask for a referendum mister? You seem to think that Urhobos are toddlers or dumb peeps who must be spoken for!

A referendum must be requested for by those who want it. A neighbouring tribe cannot impose a referendum on smaller tribes just because they think it'll favour them. Things are not done like that.

Be civil please. Go ahead with your referendum in all Igbo-speaking areas but don't overstretch your delusions. You don't need us to get Biafra as much as we don't need you. Let it rest.

fratermathy:


And when did they ask for a referendum mister? You seem to think that Urhobos are toddlers or dumb peeps who must be spoken for!

A referendum must be requested for by those who want it. A neighbouring tribe cannot impose a referendum on smaller tribes just because they think it'll favour them. Things are not done like that.

Be civil please. Go ahead with your referendum in all Igbo-speaking areas but don't overstretch your delusions. You don't need us to get Biafra as much as we don't need you. Let it rest.

We are speaking for the voiceless. and before you ask, dont need to ask for our help because they are voiceless

Malawian:

We are speaking for the voiceless. and before you ask, dont need to ask for our help because they are voiceless

The greatest tribe on earth, defender of the defenceless, speaker for the brethren, voice of the voiceless, bringer of referendum, *and the epithets continue*.

A word of advice to you all: get yourself out of the sea first before you start saving others, especially those who don't want to be saved or you'll end up as stranded as you think others are.

Even Noah couldn't save every one!

Don't mention me again on this issue. The point has been made.

fratermathy:


The greatest tribe on earth, defender of the defenceless, speaker for the brethren, voice of the voiceless, bringer of referendum, *and the epithets continue*.

A word of advice to you all: get yourself out of the sea first before you start saving others, especially those who don't want to be saved or you'll end up as stranded as you think others are.

Even Noah couldn't save every one!

Don't mention me again on this issue. The point has been made.

I understand you now. You are tired of Igbo guys sleeping with your girls. I have met guys like you before who have this childish mindset that once igbo guys sleep with their girls, they have been conquered, hence the reason you brought in your mythical Igbo girlfriend who doesn't want Biafra.

I will start giving your sister my one hour sessions.

fratermathy:


Errm.. What's the business of Itsekiri/Urhobo/Isoko with Anioma? Do we share the same homelands? Delta State is an artificial construct of IBB. We all know where our territories start and end in the so-called Delta State.

So feel free to take your kin and kith anywhere they are. We are not related or connected with you guys. Don't push your delusions too far. Itsekiris do not even share common borders with Igbos whatsoever. Urhobos have no business with Biafra in any form. If the Anioma people want to follow you guys, by all means, let them do so. Our lands do not interlap.

I think you have a point there. A Referandum will surely validate your point.

Turantula:

I think you have a point there. A Referandum will surely validate your point.

A referendum for your people or Igbo-speaking people. Don't include others inside it. You are not Noah.

Efewestern:


First of all we are not voting in any referendum, YOU CAN HAVE ANIOMA, you only conduct referendum if both parties are interested in what they are voting for.

Did any itsekiri/Urhobo man tells you he wants Biafra?, Why then you forcing your Biafra referendum on them?

I asked you a question, Yorubas are currently fighting to have the itsekiri's into their fold, so because they share same state with Anioma should they conduct Oduduwa Referendum in anioma land?

Yoruba cannot have Itsekiri becos Itsekiri and Ijaw are far more closer than Itsekiri and Yoruba, besides Ijaw land runs into Ondo from the western end of Itsekiri land.

Itsekiri belong firmly in the SS as with Urhobo and Ijaw, none of them are Oduduwa, if we want to tell ourselves the truth.

pazienza:
I can't for the life of me understand why you IPOB people delight in bringing ridicule to Ndiigbo and assigning relevancy to irrelevant groups in SS who would then use it as a ladder to pile insults and disgrace on Ndiigbo.

Are you people masochists or what?

Why exactly are you people like this.

My brother, ike gwuru.

I just don't understand why these IPOB people are like this.

This is the reason I have always distanced myself from them.

I keep wondering what is wrong with them.

Efewestern:


First of all we are not voting in any referendum, YOU CAN HAVE ANIOMA, you only conduct referendum if both parties are interested in what they are voting for

Did any itsekiri/Urhobo man tells you he wants Biafra?, Why then you forcing your Biafra referendum on them?

I asked you a question, Yorubas are currently fighting to have the itsekiri's into their fold, so because they share same state with Anioma should they conduct Oduduwa Referendum in anioma land?

have you conducted a research to know if all the Itsekiri/Urhobo people don't want Biafra ?

If no ? Why continue slamming your head instead of waiting to see if Itsekiri/Urhobo people will participate in the referendum or not ?

Count Anambra state out of any Ipod referendum. Until an Anambra indigene is made the leader of any pro-biafra group to ensure proper cleansing and focus, such group like Ipod as presently populated with wawa and abakaliki fraudsters, will not be able to get anywhere.

fratermathy:


I am with an Igbo girl and she doesn't want Biafra so what's your point with the girl analogy?

If Urhobos want Biafra as badly as you would want to believe or portray, why then are they silent about it? Why have they not protested in Warri, Ughelli, Abraka, Sapele, etc? Infact, why are they not propagating it online like you lots are doing? I would love to see videos of Urhobos proclaiming Biafra in Urhobo language!

Please get a life and stop drooling over Urhobo, a "landlocked region", to borrow you and Pazienza's self-consolatory words.

Everyday, I see Igbos criticising Ohaneze over various policies and stands. I wonder why Urhobos have not criticised UPU over its stand on Biafra. I really wonder! Are Urhobos mute? Or the Urhobo Biafrans are just so quiet?

Maybe Urhobos just want Igbos to do all the hard work and reap the fruits at the end. I think this may be the real case. Go on and get yourselves killed, guttered and muddied. When Biafra comes, Urhobos will join by then . Deluded lots!

APROKO, MA NIGGA!

U TOO GET IGBO GIRL! ONE LOVE!

fratermathy:


I am with an Igbo girl and she doesn't want Biafra so what's your point with the girl analogy?

If Urhobos want Biafra as badly as you would want to believe or portray, why then are they silent about it? Why have they not protested in Warri, Ughelli, Abraka, Sapele, etc? Infact, why are they not propagating it online like you lots are doing? I would love to see videos of Urhobos proclaiming Biafra in Urhobo language!

Please get a life and stop drooling over Urhobo, a "landlocked region", to borrow you and Pazienza's self-consolatory words.

Everyday, I see Igbos criticising Ohaneze over various policies and stands. I wonder why Urhobos have not criticised UPU over its stand on Biafra. I really wonder! Are Urhobos mute? Or the Urhobo Biafrans are just so quiet?

Maybe Urhobos just want Igbos to do all the hard work and reap the fruits at the end. I think this may be the real case. Go on and get yourselves killed, guttered and muddied. When Biafra comes, Urhobos will join by then . Deluded lots!

Please show us an evidence of the bolded, if not, remain silent as any further statment will expose your desperation of having IPOB in your sh!t hole country.

badboywizzy:
Please show us an evidence of the bolded, if not, remain silent as any further statment will expose your desperation of having IPOB in your sh!t hole country.

LOLLZ!