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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:26am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Icon4s:On goalkeeping Rohr mentioned Ezenwa, Uzoho, Akpeyi,Ajiboye and Alampasu in his interview meaning he is willing to pick from these pool of five. Based on each performance in eagles" s colour Ezenwa still have it not cos is damn solid but based on his WC qualifiers appearance which showed confidence but not really tested until Algeria match which showed some flaws in his game though relative improved during CHAN especially against Angola but can we say that's enough for WC. Uzoho had 45 minutes against Argentina and looked calmed especially with his age i thumb him up but that's not enough to rate him cos not really tested,butt hope to see him in friendlies to ascertain his readiness,with his age and exposure can we really trust him Akpeyi is the most experience lad among the available keepers but his confidence always failed him and always suspect especially in eagles "s colour which put question mark on his ability to be in goalposts at WC. Ajiboye is a local lad just like Ezenwa but not really in Rohr" s plan but with his performance at CHAN he has forced his way to be considered for selection,he has the confidence and looks solid,his saves against Sudan were top notch but can he be trusted Alampasu has not really grab the opportunity cos he was among the earlier caller during WC qualifiers but has not get the opportunity like others and his club situation is not really encouraging but for Rohr to mentioned him meaning he can pull a surprise. If we based it on performance so far 1. Ezenwa 2.Uzoho 3.Ajiboye 4.Akpeyi 5.Alampasu I think it is high time Rohr give us his number one and end this mystery surrounding our choice of number one. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:28am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Icon4s: Looking like Echiejile will make the list with the way Rohr is talking... Kept mentioning his name according to his BBC interview |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:34am On Feb 24, 2018 |
edi287:.. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:35am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Icon4s:Goalkeepers save penalties, don't they? How much could Ezenwa have done if he had played in that final?That Ezenwa played in the WCQ is no criteria for adjudging him as our number one just as Uzoho playing against Argentina is no criteria for making him number one. I simply just prefer Uzoho to Ezenwa. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:42am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Icon4s:Sir on Ajiboye against Morocco i beg to differ,are you saying Ezenwa would stop those goals cos i remember the same Ezenwa bow to pressure against Ghana and conceded 4 goals. Mind you i rate Ezenwa ahead just cos of his experience in eagles,apart from that Ajiboye is better,pls go and watch those saves against Sudan,it takes extremely talented keeper to make those saves. Pls go and watch Morocco match again,sorry i remember you said you can't watch it again,despite conceding four goals,Ajiboye made saves after saves. I thought Enyeama conceded four goals against Ghana in Fulham London friendly with very lesser shots at goal compare to 26 shots at goal Ajiboye had against Morocco. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:43am On Feb 24, 2018 |
soetanoreoluwa: So many things will become clearer before the WC. Elderson will have a chance to prove, he is still relevant. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:44am On Feb 24, 2018 |
LieDetector: Firstly, you need not go to the telegraph to dig up whether Courtois was in the last WC or not. Everyone is aware of that. You were talking about the year Chelsea loaned Courtois to Athletics Madrid right? Now, that was in 2011. Courtois was in Athletico up till that 2014 (3 years!) where he played top flight football and featured in the Champions league final of 2014. Now, that was the year he followed Belgium to the WC. So, is that the same case for Uzoho? Where is his own exposure? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:45am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Icon4s:The problem I have with this line of reasoning is that if we go by it Uzoho will never be tested or exposed and then anytime his name comes up we'd still ask 'Now, which test or exposure does Uzoho have? And on and on like that. Catch 22 situation We are in a crisis. It's time to do the unusual. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:52am On Feb 24, 2018 |
I said this yet some people became sentimental in trying to call me sentimental. soetanoreoluwa: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:57am On Feb 24, 2018 |
tbaba1234:No way Eneji is U20. These guys need to stop this nonsense for once. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:59am On Feb 24, 2018 |
soetanoreoluwa:Nah it was a friendly against inter. One of my first memories in football. R9 was just coming back from injury in that game. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 9:03am On Feb 24, 2018 |
tbaba1234:Definitely one of the Idowu,aina,ebuchi ,shehu will be dropped for him... Quite challenging. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 9:08am On Feb 24, 2018 |
somehow: Looking like coach favourite and maybe his experience is working for him... Rohr don't wanna change his back four... And also depend on his tactics he want to deploy though |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:08am On Feb 24, 2018 |
edi287: If you don't have any proof it is you who needs to stop. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 9:08am On Feb 24, 2018 |
edi287: The coach is Paul Aigbogun! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 9:09am On Feb 24, 2018 |
edi287: Yeah thanks I saw it... My bad Was thinking about world cup championship |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:15am On Feb 24, 2018 |
soetanoreoluwa:Nobody will be dropped for him. He will have to fight for it. You think say those other guys you mentioned no wan go WC? Didn't you read Ebuehi saying he turned down the Benfica move cos of the WC? Look at Ola Aina playing consistently for Hull City and Shehu too moving from Cyprus to Turkey. If Idowu is tried in the next friendlies and he gives a good game then it's going to be tough for Echiejile. Omo na good fight now 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 9:24am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Echiejile isn't in the SE based on quote system, might not be the best LB out there but the coaches surely know why they call on him. Are we saying over the years he's been in the SE, there hasn't been any LB in the world to replace him? If you're good, you will surely blow. Stars don't hide so until then, the coaches will keep using him. Will he start all the matches at the world cup if picked? That I don't know, but for some to say he should be dropped, they surely know little about coaching. soetanoreoluwa: Only injuries and total loss of form will get him dropped. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 9:26am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Mujtahida:that is it if we don't play him how will he get the experienced? Ezenwa we know what he is capable of already same for Akpeyi Uzoho should play those friendlies so that we can know what he is capable of Shikena 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:33am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Kog45: Lol at all those 4 goals comparisons. You can also add Courtois in a recent EPL game. Sir, all games are not the same. Now, almost everyone has been saying the defence let Ajiboye down. What if I say Ajiboye failed to organize his defense? Seems Ajiboye was more interested in making saves than organizing his defense to prevent opposing strikers from having point blank shots. Same thing happened against Sudan. Ajiboye was static, rooted to his goal line for most of the game. And the CBs defended too deep. Goalkeepers frown and bark at the defenders when ever they are exposed to make point blank saves. It is the duty of the goalie to organize the defence so as to prevent that from happening. Keepers make saves when they have no choice |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LieDetector(m): 9:35am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Icon4s:Apparently I shouldn't have gone to the telegraph but likely debate over his inclusion behoves that I do so. You earlier said your concern about Uzoho was his age wherein I mentioned Courtous who started keeping for belgium at quite a younger age(18) compared to Uzoho. Talking about exposure, how many black goalies are first goalkeepers in clubs across UEFA top 5 leagues? I can assure you that if you should do a headcount, the figures would not measure up to my 5 fingers with 99% of them coming from france. It doesn't take away the quality of black goalies. All I'm saying is that we have the friendlies coming up. Uzoho will get loads of them and they'll count as both 'experience' and 'exposure'. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:43am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Icon4s: So that's the news thing now? Osas went to buy recharge card while his wing was being exploited and you are blaming organization? Any organization you are trying to bring up should start with the coaching staff and not the keeper cuz he can only do so much. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:43am On Feb 24, 2018 |
maidaboi:What was Ezenwa's level of exposure before the Cameroun double header? His exposure was very low YET today now it's the exposure that he got during the WCQ that is now being used to argue in his favor, forgetting that if we had not been forced by Akpeyi's injury Ezenwa would perhaps have never had the chance. My point is Icon4s argues against giving rooky gks a chance and then when they are given a chance he uses that experience and test the gk got from that chance to argue against giving another rooky the same chance. That's the point ChrisKels made when he talked about double standards. I know that the gk is sensitive. It's not for rookies. But we are in a crisis. Rookies(Uzoho, Ezenwa) and Rusties (Aiyenugba, Ejide) and Shakies (Akpeyi) are what we got. We are looking for a gk who's been exposed and tested at the club level but Akpeyi fits that bill yet he simply has failed to rise up to the occasion for us. We do not have gk exposed at club level. Has Ezenwa' best been seen? Has his worse been seen? NO! Like tbaba1234 said he was ably shielded by the defence in the matches he played. In other words Ezenwa and Uzoho at the same level. I repeat WE ARE IN A CRISIS. It's time to take a risk. 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:44am On Feb 24, 2018 |
mazimee:hahaha... Of a truth, If Echiejile makes the team, then it's on his loyalty and service to the team and not on merit. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:45am On Feb 24, 2018 |
tbaba1234: They should either prove it or shut down � |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:50am On Feb 24, 2018 |
soetanoreoluwa:hmmm... If it boils down to this, I see one of Idowu, aina, ebuehi been drop. Shehu, barring any injury is already on board. This will be a tough call for the coach. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:52am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Icon4s:I trust you saw how Uzoho was barking orders to the players. One time he was shouting 'Ndidi, Ndidi, Ndidi' during a goal kick. Like BascoVanVeli has pointed out the organisation of the defence primarily lies with the Coach not the gk. Against Algeria at the last WC Manuel Neuer rushed to clear the ball more than twenty times. What then about organising his defenders. Please tell me whether you saw Ezenwa calling out to his defenders during the WCQ. That the defence was organised is purely down to the coaching of Rohr. Our defenders move in synchrocity. I saw this during the WCQ and then during the match against Argentina you will see it so clearly. Even Ebuehi and Idowu who were newbies moved in sync in a very organised way with the CB. Ekong was the commander. My point is our defence being organised is the outcome of Rohr's coaching not Ezenwa organising his defenders 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:16am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Mujtahida: Hahaha, Ezenwa don suffer for this thread. Just now you were crediting Uzoho for shouting orders to Ndidi. Meaning you are saying he was also trying to organize his defense. Next thing you opined that organization of defense lies solely with the coaches. Na wa o. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:24am On Feb 24, 2018 |
AIG07: This one come serious oo.. What if Rohr now decides to use the 3 man defence at d WC? Aina,Idowu and Echijele are d 3 LB in d team and so far only Idowu has proved to be good for the LWB role..Will Rohr drop Aina whom he worked hard to cap and is currently doing so well in the championship? For the RWB,its Ebuehi... of course,Moses could be drafted to the role since Shehu can't play there...but will Rohr take the risk of drafting his best attacking player in a defensive role?? Time will tell... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:33am On Feb 24, 2018 |
All this Goalkeepers talk sef.... Rohr's mind in that goalie dept is like an enigma locked inside a conundrum. At the end of the day, we all will see things more clearly after some friendlies but before the Wembley friendly. The GK dept is one that I really will go back to only after the march friendlies at least.... That dept just tire me....
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:38am On Feb 24, 2018 |
Icon4s:I am only saying organisation of the defence is not primarily the work of the Gk. Note I used the word 'primarily'. I am not saying a gk should not organise his defence. Why not. For me Ezenwa and Uzoho are almost at the same level. But we stand to gain alot if Uzoho is exposed now because of the situation we find ourselves. If not he will never be exposed. |
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