butterflyl1on:

I really admire the patience you and OkCornel share with Gggg102.

A picture paints a thousand words to aid Gggg102 to understand. Now Butterfly1on has donated a sculpture after those actors, and Gggg102 may still need further learning aids.

OkCornel:


Have you considered if these terrorists read their Koran properly?

Just as how Christians can read their Bibles and get confused...why not also these Muslim terrorists?

Mohammed is another guy...though imperfect, was totally misunderstood...

It's like forgetting the good acts of David and remembering David only for all the blood he shed on the battlefield...

many Christians don't see things this way @ the bold

Gggg102:


I've answered

Ok, my humble apologise. I will go examine all your posts again.
All the best on your tough journey into TRUTH beyond intellect.

Humanistme:
myth/lie in the bible

genesis 30:39
And when they mated in front of the white-streaked branches, they gave birth to young that were streaked, speckled, and spotted.


this is not how genetics work.

it was a mere belief system

OkCornel:


It's not about what people think...it's about what the Eternal Creator of LIFE thinks...

A mad man will think whatever he's doing is right even if it is wrong...

Ask yourself these basic questions;

1) Does nature support homosexuality and lesbianism?

some scientists claim there is homosexuality in nature although I don't believe them.



2) Is the anus of a man/woman naturally designed for penetration?

some scientist claim this also but I don't believe it


3) If your father or any of your ancestor was a homosexual, will you be existing here having this conversation with me?


no


4) Is there any logic in people who owe their existence to an act of natural sex between man and woman canvassing for same sex union?


they were born that way and shouldn't be discriminated against
they say they were born that way, and it is wired in their DNA.



5) Are there any benefit of homosexuality that outweighs the cost you might want to tell us?




I don't know, but I think it decreases the rate of overpopulation due to lack of reproduction

and also if they want children, they have to adopt thereby doing the society good by decreasing the number of children in orphanages and providing parental care to the adopted children.


I await your answers to all the 5 questions I asked you here...

something being natural does not make it right.

rape is natural
murder is natural
incest is present in the natural world.

Gggg102:



how is homosexuality a sin?

lemme answer for you

because it was against the law of Moses which we are no longer under.
the same way eating unclean animals, mixing of threads, cross breeding of cattle, putting tassels on your clothes, planting different crops on the same field... were sins but we as Christians can do all these since we are no longer under the law.

IOW, the New Testament didn't condemn homosexuality?

Have you read the following?

G N T Romans 1:26-27
Because they do this, God has given them over to shameful passions. Even the women pervert the natural use of their sex by unnatural acts. In the same way the men give up natural sexual relations with women and burn with passion for each other. Men do shameful things with each other, and as a result they bring upon themselves the punishment they deserve for their wrongdoing.

Good News Translation 1 Corinthians 6:9 Surely you know that the wicked will not possess God's Kingdom. Do not fool yourselves; people who are immoral or who worship idols or are adulterers or homosexual perverts

G NT
1 Timothy 1:9-10

It must be remembered, of course, that laws are made, not for good people, but for lawbreakers and criminals, for the godless and sinful,

for those who are not religious or spiritual, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the immoral, for sexual perverts (homosexuals), for kidnappers, for those who lie and give false testimony or who do anything else contrary to sound doctrine.

The more i try to make these scriptures be in the Old testament, they still pull back glued in the New.

Boy, if you think as a Christian you can be gay, then you are in for a long thing.

Satan is a lair.

Gggg102:



what battering?

he's just posting dumb memes
which by the way is making fun of okcornel's opinion

I never knew you were this slow. Chai.

Butterfly1on thanks for your patience in the process exposing the emptiness and slowness of so called atheists.

Emmanystone:

IOW, the New Testament didn't condemn homosexuality?

Have you read the following?

G N T Romans 1:26-27
Because they do this, God has given them over to shameful passions. Even the women pervert the natural use of their sex by unnatural acts. In the same way the men give up natural sexual relations with women and burn with passion for each other. Men do shameful things with each other, and as a result they bring upon themselves the punishment they deserve for their wrongdoing.

Good News Translation 1 Corinthians 6:9 Surely you know that the wicked will not possess God's Kingdom. Do not fool yourselves; people who are immoral or who worship idols or are adulterers or homosexual perverts

G NT
1 Timothy 1:9-10

It must be remembered, of course, that laws are made, not for good people, but for lawbreakers and criminals, for the godless and sinful,

for those who are not religious or spiritual, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the immoral, for sexual perverts (homosexuals), for kidnappers, for those who lie and give false testimony or who do anything else contrary to sound doctrine.

The more i try to make these scriptures be in the Old testament, they still pull back glued in the New.

Boy, if you think as a Christian you can be gay, then you are in for a long thing.

Satan is a lair.

so some old testament laws are still relevant in new testament.


so we are no longer under the law, but some laws were still picked from the laws of Moses and given to us to follow?


so we still follow some mosaic law

Emmanystone:

I never knew you were this slow. Chai.

Butterfly1on thanks for your patience in the process exposing the emptiness and slowness of so called atheists.

who told you I am an atheist?

Gggg102:



so some old testament laws are still relevant in new testament.

I posted this earlier

The law cannot make man love God. Laws bring sin. I repeat, laws bring sin. Where there is no law there is no sin. The fulfilment of the law in Christ removed the power of sin in the law for as many as are in Christ Jesus.

The law will remain for those who still wish to follow it as a sign that they cannot be saved based on the Law

Emmanystone now posting this

G NT
1 Timothy 1:9-10

It must be remembered, of course, that laws are made, not for good people, but for lawbreakers and criminals, for the godless and sinful,

for those who are not religious or spiritual, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the immoral, for sexual perverts (homosexuals), for kidnappers, for those who lie and give false testimony or who do anything else contrary to sound doctrine.

Yet you still cannot understand anything? Yet you ask this question? SMH. This is unimaginable.

butterflyl1on:


I posted this earlier



Emmanystone now posting this




Yet you still cannot understand anything? Yet you ask this question? SMH. This is unimaginable.

ohhh it's getting clearer now.


without the law, good people won't still kill, become homosexual, ...

law was for bad people
good people were good without the law

butterflyl1on:


I posted this earlier



Emmanystone now posting this




Yet you still cannot understand anything? Yet you ask this question? SMH. This is unimaginable.

so how do we as Christians determine what is right and what is wrong without the law?

(how do we know that homosexuality is good or bad, stealing is good or bad, fornication is good or bad without the mosaic law, without the letter of St. Paul and the apostles where they told us what what was good/bad. how do we differentiate between good and evil without the Bible in general?)

Gggg102:


ohhh it's getting clearer now.


without the law, good people won't still kill, become homosexual, ...

law was for bad people
good people were good without the law

Why am I not shocked?

.

Gggg102:



so how do we as Christians determine what is right and what is wrong without the law?

(how do we know that homosexuality is good or bad, stealing is good or bad, fornication is good or bad without the mosaic law, without the letter of St. Paul and the apostles where they told us what what was good/bad. how do we differentiate between good and evil without the Bible in general?)

How is it even possible that you would be missing this every single time? How how how?

butterflyl1on:


How is it even possible that you would be missing this every single time? How how how?

OK the first thing in that passage was laws are not for good people but for bad people.

is there any other meaning to this

Gggg102:



so how do we as Christians determine what is right and what is wrong without the law?

(how do we know that homosexuality is good or bad, stealing is good or bad, fornication is good or bad without the mosaic law, without the letter of St. Paul and the apostles where they told us what what was good/bad. how do we differentiate between good and evil without the Bible in general?)

We know by studying the author's guide, the Bible.

Gggg102:


ohhh it's getting clearer now.


without the law, good people won't still kill, become homosexual, ...

law was for bad people
good people were good without the law

Na wao. Guy na weytin nah? Pls stop.

Gggg102:



it occurs naturally in the natural world.

You mean to say that incest is natural and acceptable where you come from?

Okay ooo


https://www.quora.com/How-does-nature-prevent-incest-and-interbreeding-in-animals

Gggg102:



who told you I am an atheist?

You are not? Wait!!!! What?. What are you, a satanist? Well, your speech betrays you.

Gggg102:



so some old testament laws are still relevant in new testament.


so we are no longer under the law, but some laws were still picked from the laws of Moses and given to us to follow?


so we still follow some mosaic law

Who is the US? You and who?

Gggg102:



so how do we as Christians determine what is right and what is wrong without the law?

(how do we know that homosexuality is good or bad, stealing is good or bad, fornication is good or bad without the mosaic law, without the letter of St. Paul and the apostles where they told us what what was good/bad. how do we differentiate between good and evil without the Bible in general?)

The Spirit of God is there to guide you...

If truly you listen to His Spirit and do what He instructs you to do...you will get it right...and the passage of time would confirm the correctness of the choice you made...


If you don't have that Spirit...you'll be as confused as the Pharisees...excessive in knowledge but lacking in understanding, hence confusion sets in...

Gggg102:


1. people today do not think it's evil.
our conscience is our natural good evil compass. if I feel something is good and you feel it's evil, how would that affect things.

in line with your point,

2. homosexuality was evil since beginning of time. so it did not require the law.
what about incest. it was allowed in the beginning how do we know it is evil. and cross dressing.
animal sacrifice was also before the law.


3. since we are not under mosaic laws, does that mean cross dressing, tattooing,... are acceptable?

4. since the law is not applicable to Christians, are they still required to pay tithe?

Now i see why Butterfly1ion said this is painful. With all they have been patiently explaining to you, you just run them. Chai.

Emmanystone:

Now i see why Butterfly1ion said this is painful. With all they have been patiently explaining to you, you just run them. Chai.

Welcome to my world ooo. And he claims to go to church ooo. Makes me wonder what they teach him there or if he only goes to church to sell biscuits outside the church gate or if at all he even goes near anything called a church building.

Gggg102:
off to church

MuttleyLaff:
So?
Make we shout Hallelujah or go fry beans?

Gggg102:
who told you I am an atheist?

Emmanystone:
You are not? Wait!!!! What? .
What are you, a satanist? Well, your speech betrays you.

Emmanystone:
Who is the US?
You and who?

He started his stunt, when he tried it on, earlier today claiming that, he is going to church

I want to sincerely thank Butterflyl1on, Muttleylaff, OkCornel and the rest of other Christian brethren for their patience in once again showcasing the dubiousness, lies,and the wrong intentional attempts of satan via his agents in this forum to present the Word of God as contradictory and lies when it is not. Once again, shame on satan.

You brethren just fulfilled this scripture;
Good News Translation 1 Peter 3:15
'But have reverence for Christ in your hearts, and honor him as Lord. Be ready at all times to answer anyone who asks you to explain the hope you have in you,'.

SO, I ASK;

Where are the wise atheists of Nairaland? where are the intellectuals? where are the disputers of the word of God? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1 Corinthians:1:20

I SAY, HE HAS.

You all just shut satan through his agents up. Every so called contradiction turned out a misrepresentation by satan.

butterflyl1on:


Welcome to my world ooo. And he claims to go to church ooo. Makes me wonder what they teach him there or if he only goes to church to sell biscuits outside the church gate or if at all he even goes near anything called a church building.

He is the type who goes to church only to count the errors the minister makes in his tenses as he delivers his message. The content or Rhema of the Word fly over his head.

***Tarse everywhere.***

MuttleyLaff:








He started his stunt, when he tried it on, earlier today claiming that, he is going to church

Well, that's not surprising, after all satan has his own Church. There are marine churches everywhere. They are Yahoo yahoo churches everywhere.

If he was going to a church where Jesus is Lord there and the Bible is a guide there, his words would have indicated that. The Master says out of the heart the mouth speaks.

He that is called of God, speaks the word of God, not call it a lie.

A man's words are the man, just like the word of God is God.

Emmanystone:
I want to sincerely thank Butterfly1on, Muttleylaff, OkCornel and the rest of other Christian brethren for their patience in once again showcasing the dubiousness, lies,and the wrong intentional attempts of satan via his agents in this forum to present the Word of God as contradictory and lies when it is not. Once again, shame on satan.

You brethren just fulfilled this scripture;
Good News Translation 1 Peter 3:15
'But have reverence for Christ in your hearts, and honor him as Lord. Be ready at all times to answer anyone who asks you to explain the hope you have in you,'.

SO, I ASK;

Where are the wise atheists of Nairaland? where are the intellectuals? where are the disputer of the word of God? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1 Corinthians:1:20

I SAY, HE HAS.

You all just shut satan through his agents up. Every so called contradiction turned out a misrepresentation by satan.

*modified*

Thank you even though the amendment wasn't complete

butterflyl1on:


Who is Butterfly1oin?

Abeg correct it sharp sharp to Butterflyl1on

Hahahahabaha, na weytin make you loku me like zat?

OkCornel:


The Spirit of God is there to guide you...

If truly you listen to His Spirit and do what He instructs you to do...you will get it right...and the passage of time would confirm the correctness of the choice you made...


If you don't have that Spirit...you'll be as confused as the Pharisees...excessive in knowledge but lacking in understanding, hence confusion sets in...

thanks.

Emmanystone:

We know by studying the author's guide, the Bible.

if you say you know by studying the Bible, that means you only know they were evil because they were in the law. and because the Apostles gave instructions against them.

how do you yourself differentiate good from evil, without any help from the law and without instructions from the apostles.


imagine you are in a land with no law, nobody has ever told you what to do and what not to do. what will you do and what will you not do.


okcornel's answers was better.