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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 8:49pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
ofai: You are sick upstairs. First of all you are ashamed of your state hence your refusal to even mention it at all let alone your ethnicity. Among the Edo State ethnicities of Bini, Ishan and Afemai, which one of them is not known for excellence all over the country and beyond to warrant being ashamed of? You smell of shameless ignorance. At least I have mentioned my state and given you a few credentials which have scared and intimidated you so much that you will never mention yours let alone your ethnicity within it. Mention your own state so that we now both go into ethnicity if you are sure your ethnicity is as popular as any of Edo's. You don't want to mention your state to someone who has already mentioned his, yet you want him to go on to mention his ethnicity while you hide both your own state and ethnicity. Igbo wayo! You Igbos are always fondest of probing people's specific ethnicities and tribes yet the same people are the quickest to label others as tribalistic. Why You are so interested in my ethnicity but even your state you can't even disclose to start with. Very dubious thing! Since you are so good at guessing, what now stops you from guessing my ethnicity. You could guess my state from among the six SS states, yet you can't guess my ethnicity from among just three? Shame on your intelligence. |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ofai: 9:02pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: You keep hating, we keep soaring. |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 9:03pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
ofai:I can now see that you are as foolish as the Ironsi you have been defending. If not, where did you see any mention of Delta Igbos in my enumeration of the Delta State tribes I am more qualified than you to speak for? You are a fool honestly! You don't even digest when you read. No wonder you have been having a hard time understanding how Ironsi's Unification Decree caused the death of federalism. 1 Like |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ofai: 9:08pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: I actually I thought I was discussing with an intelligent and open-minded person. I didn't know I was dealing with charlatan, a bitter and pathetic soul. You are an intellectual wannabe. Long noisy but empty revisionist. |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 9:13pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
ofai: It was you who after asking for my ethnicity, claimed you guessed right that it is Edo. So please tell that to yourself. You can't cajole me into telling you my ethnicity when you yourself have refused to tell me your state after I have announced mine. Never! You mention your state like I have done, then we now go into ethnicity. You want to know my ethnicity so that you will begin to bash it while I will not be able to respond since I will not have known yours! He he he he..... You suppose know say that Igbo trick no go fit work for Edo man na! E don tey wey Edo get sense o! |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ofai: 9:13pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: .....and your other military leaders' "intervention" resurrected true federalism right? Hypocritical sadist. Thank God for history and posterity. The economic policies of the regions were still intact under ironsi until your "saviours" killed and buried true federalism. |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ofai: 9:14pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: It is only a dullard who wouldn't know that I am unapologetically Igbo. As for your shameful self, you are scared of stating your ethnicity. Shame! |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 9:30pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
ofai: From the beginning I knew I was discussing with a shameless revisionist blinded to the truth by tribal ego. I only played along because I knew you would end up resorting to insults when finally cornered. Igbos who are honest, smart and sincere do acknowledge that Ironsi's Decrees killed federalism and set even Igbos themselves back. Just check about six comments back and you'll see an example. Those are the kind of Igbos I respect. They are intelligent enough to know that the only way to absolve the entire Igbos of Ironsi's and Zik's blunders is to simply denounce them and dissociates the entire Igbos from their actions. But your likes are too dull and dry to know the shame in defending very obvious blunders in the name of tribal loyalism. Had it been someone else proposed the secession clause and Enahoro joined in resisting it, Edos would have by today been denying him and even claiming he was not really one of them. Had it been it was an Edo person that promulgated the Unification and Anti-seccession Decrees, Edo's would have been telling the whole world today that he acted purely for his own selfish interest rather than even attempt to put up a defense on his behalf. Just look at Tony Anenih. He is a very good example of all that is wrong with Nigeria. In fact he was part and parcel of the hegemony which ruined the country. How many Edos have you ever seen rise to his defense on social media? In fact his own Esan people loath him more than outsiders. That is the difference. 2 Likes |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ofai: 9:37pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: The igbos you respect are the ones who should agree with you. Well your respect is inconsequential to me. Ironsi's shortcomings have been magnified and overestimated and sold to ignorant dummies like you. Very soon the truth will be revealed for every revisionist to hang their heads in shame. Ironsi is 10 times better than the generals after him. |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 9:43pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
A sensible Igbo person would have simply absolved the entire Igbo race by just saying that Ironsi acted purely for his own personal lust after power. I have come across few Igbos of such. In fact one of them even told me that Zik's alliance with the North at independence was for his own personal and selfish interest. When I countered him he proved it logically with facts and figures of the results of the results of the 1959 election in the Eastern Region where NPC scored zero, and then asked me how a people who did not give a single vote to Ahmadu Bello's party could have approved of Zik's decision to align with him. That is how to be intelligent and tactful. |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by nonye6194: 9:44pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
EvilChild: Aguiyi isn't on the N10 note. Alvan Ikoku rather |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 9:49pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
ofai: The truth is already out and it indicts Ironsi. Much as you try, you can never wash him clean of responsibility for the dismantling of federalism. I don't even give you any respect in the first instance to warrant its being inconsequential to you. Do you deserve respect for your blind tribal loyalism? I have said it that you are a dullard. So you now compare which military junta is better than which for a country which began with democracy defined by a world class model system of governance? So it gives you joy when you look at a pictorial chart of Nigeria's past rulers and see most of them in military caps and Khaki? No wonder you justify mediocrity on the excuse that one mediocre is better than the other. Shame on your level of intelligence. 1 Like |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ofai: 9:52pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: When you are done ranting, you can tuck yourself to bed. Don't be offended that I didn't buy your crude and stupid half-truths. Sleep well....or at least try to. |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 9:55pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
ofai:Are you really this daft? Who would not have known that you were unapologetically but blindly Igbo given how you tried to deny and even justify Ironsi's useless decrees from the very first comment you made on this thread? You can't hide your state and ethnicity and expect me to give you my ethnicity after having given you my state. That is pure rubbish. Tell me your state first if you are really proud of it. |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ofai: 9:57pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: Dumbo I have released you, go and sleep, your reverse psychology isn't working. Try something else |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 10:00pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
ofai: Ironsi's nephew, you can't change history. It is cast in stone. He removed the term "federal" from Nigeria's official name and centralized the civil service. If you are asked to explain that in a Masters or PhD thesis, would your answer really be that your uncle left the regional structure intact? Guy you no go ever qualify for the degree o. 1 Like |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Eastlink(m): 10:01pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
AK481:Mazi is an Aro word. But has become generally used in central Igbo as mister. The same as Oriaku for Mrs. |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 10:02pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
ofai: Released me? Could you hold me before? Who you be? Can a person defending Ironsi's gaffes hold anyone to ransom in a debate? You don baf at all so? |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Nobody: 10:18pm On Mar 04, 2018 |
Edo is an ethnicity ! Edo-state is a land ! Deadlytruth: |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 6:02am On Mar 05, 2018 |
ofai: So you never read it here where I explained that the other military interventionists' mission was to teach Igbos a lesson by sustaining Ironsi's blunders so that after bearing the brunt of being on the receiving end for too long Igbos would come to hate unitary system and perish their fraudulent one Nigeria dream? And has it not really worked today with Igbos now the champion of true federalism, confederalism and secession? Total lack of comprehension skills. Shame on you! |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 6:09am On Mar 05, 2018 |
ofai: Soaring to where? Soaring yet complaining of marginalization and seeking to opt out of the confusion you plunged the country into through your useless and retrogressive decrees? 1 Like |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ofai: 7:25am On Mar 05, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: Till today, you are still "teaching igbos a lesson" right? Your stupidity really amazes me. That said, I didn't know you 'sleep for my matter'.... I just hope you slept well because anything Igbo gives you nightmares. Keep deluding yourself with your revisionism. Ironsi's didn't interfere with the economy and free press, its there in the books. Your tales by moonlight won't change history. |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ofai: 7:29am On Mar 05, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: Yes we are been marginalized, every pundit except wannabes like you knows that. but despite all these, our ingenuity keeps us soaring economically socially and intellectually. |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 7:46am On Mar 05, 2018 |
ofai: Crap as usual. Nothing new. If from 1914 to 1967 (a total of 53 years) Igbos refused to face the reality that unitary system was dangerous to a diversity, common sense should have dictated to you that from 1967 to 2018 (a period of 51 years) is less than enough to uproot from them their natural gravitationa towards centricism. Even the Biafra currently being proposed is obviously going to be run on unitary system because all they've been calling it is "Republic of Biafra" rather than Federal Republic of Biafra or United States of Biafra. Are there not still Igbos still currently priding themselves as the only tribe which genuinely believes in 'One- Nigeria' despite all the ills it has brought upon them? You think even 100 years are enough to teach such folks lessons? Of course your duplicity of defending Ironsi's gaffes against the preponderance of evidences kissing and slapping you in the face got me so shocked that I could not sleep all night. 1 Like |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by Deadlytruth(m): 7:54am On Mar 05, 2018 |
ofai: You reason against common sense. You can't be better than those you claim are marginalizing you. It does not make sense? It is like claiming that you are stronger than the person you yourself acknowledge as your oppressor. If really so, then why not use that superior strength of yours to extricate yourself from his hold? Or do you naturally enjoy oppression and marginalization? 1 Like |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ofai: 2:46pm On Mar 05, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: *yawns* *yimu* |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by LaudableXX: 4:42pm On Mar 05, 2018 |
iconize:Igbos would still own this country.... in what sense? As if people from other tribes do not exist in Nigeria. Can you see the cluelessness in your remarks? |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by LaudableXX: 4:45pm On Mar 05, 2018 |
donfemo:Chukwuma Nzeogwu was certainly not a hero! |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by LaudableXX: 4:47pm On Mar 05, 2018 |
Alariiwo: Let them continue their propaganda. They have forgotten that the events that took place during that coup, were well-documented! T9ksy: When Maimalari saw Ifeajuna, he thought help had arrived, not realising that he was the enemy! What a pity! 1 Like |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by LaudableXX: 4:59pm On Mar 05, 2018 |
Deadlytruth:Savage! 1 Like |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by LaudableXX: 5:03pm On Mar 05, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: Oh I love this question! 1 Like |
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 94th Posthumous Birthday Is Today by gidgiddy: 5:40pm On Mar 05, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: And after sponsoring a bill on referendum then what? Why do you think that none of those who are agitating gor restructuring have sponsored a restructuring bill by now? This because the North has such a huge voting power that any bill they dont like has no hope of ever ever being passed into law, wether restructuring or referendum |
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