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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 4:37pm On Mar 06, 2018
raumdeuter:


If your tactic is "Do not concede or Do not lose" first then when you concede yu have to change things. That was what happened vs Palace, That offensive football Mourinho didnt want to play, the scoreline forced him to play it

Look at most of your games, you start slow, no pressing at all, if you are fortunate to score first then you try to slow down the game further and catch the opponent on counter

In cases where opponent score first you now see a renewed tactic and the team will come out aggressively, some times its too late

e.g vs City, you started lazily no pressure, City scores, Man Utd decides to press them and they get a goal, immediately they went back to sleeping. Same thing yesterday same thing vs Chelsea last week, Personnel wise, your team is superior to every team in the league why not deploy tactics that will make you dominant in every game

The way you pressed Palace in the last 35mins, thats the way teams like Liverpool and City press their opponent for 90mins

Probably thats why all your creative players are struggling, Pogba Sanchez Martial Mata Rashford have been below their best lately. They cannot all be lazy,
well this is an interesting angle, you may be right.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:16pm On Mar 06, 2018
sinizia:
In addition to my last entry, Neville said something few weeks back which I agree with. He said something like United doesn't need to buy all the top players to be great again, that what we need is for Mourinho to create an ideantity out of this team FIRST AND FOREMOST, and the add one or two additions and the team is back in business.

I agree with him, because this team have no identity yet. We look clueless till we're losing. What Pep did last season was to bring a style he wanted for his players. He went about impacting that knowledge in them. He gave them the identity he wants them to operate under, sold off the wastes that couldn't play like he did, bought the players he wanted and made them play with the style he'd already taught most of the team. What we see now is an unstoppable machine. If we like we can buy Dybala and even Neymar join. As long as Mourinho has not laid a successful pattern for the team to operate with, we're going nowhere.

Why I dont want to dwell on it is because some people might start getting defensive and think I mean Peps way is the only way to play football. But if you have a strong side like Man utd they should be playing better

Peps team play like the ball belongs to them and you have no right to be in possesion at all.

Look at this screenshot froma friendly with Man Utd. You can see the number of City players in Man utd half even before the halfway line. So they basically brought the fight to your doorstep and any mistake here is more costly to Man Utd since its closer to your goal than to Citys

This is why it looks like City creates like 10 chances per game because of the way they press. When Man Utd is down and desperate you see them play like this too. But why wait until you are down and desperate

Look at this screenshot look at how like 8 City players in Man Utds half and Man Utd has 9 which have a low tolerance for a misplaced pass

Thats the type of tactics Klopp also use that makes his players look better than they actually are

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:21pm On Mar 06, 2018
ChristineC:
well this is an interesting angle, you may be right.

The gif below is from a friendly between Man Ud and City and see the way they attacked your defenders aggresively with their press and stripped them of possesion.



That was the way you attacked Chelsea and Palace when you were down and your game looked better but why wait until the thing gets bad


The truth is when you attack those teams(City and Liverpool) like that they wont have any other option but to panic too like we saw in Liverpool vs City, I remembered when Klopp won 2 Bundesliga in a row with that style, the next season when Bayern was playing him, we also deployed the high press and we beat him, Klopp was complaining that Bayern stole his style. That was why we beat them
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 5:30pm On Mar 06, 2018
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:49pm On Mar 06, 2018
raumdeuter:


Why I dont want to dwell on it is because some people might start getting defensive and think I mean Peps way is the only way to play football. But if you have a strong side like Man utd they should be playing better

Peps team play like the ball belongs to them and you have no right to be in possesion at all.

Look at this screenshot froma friendly with Man Utd. You can see the number of City players in Man utd half even before the halfway line. So they basically brought the fight to your doorstep and any mistake here is more costly to Man Utd since its closer to your goal than to Citys

This is why it looks like City creates like 10 chances per game because of the way they press. When Man Utd is down and desperate you see them play like this too. But why wait until you are down and desperate

Look at this screenshot look at how like 8 City players in Man Utds half and Man Utd has 9 which have a low tolerance for a misplaced pass

Thats the type of tactics Klopp also use that makes his players look better than they actually are
Even when they try to attack it's like the players don't know themselves. So many loose passes, poor movements, hoarding of the ball. We just lucky we have a very good players if not if it's by how we have been playing, we should be nowhere near the top
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 6:05pm On Mar 06, 2018
raumdeuter:


If your tactic is "Do not concede or Do not lose" first then when you concede yu have to change things. That was what happened vs Palace, That offensive football Mourinho didnt want to play, the scoreline forced him to play it

Look at most of your games, you start slow, no pressing at all, if you are fortunate to score first then you try to slow down the game further and catch the opponent on counter

In cases where opponent score first you now see a renewed tactic and the team will come out aggressively, some times its too late

e.g vs City, you started lazily no pressure, City scores, Man Utd decides to press them and they get a goal, immediately they went back to sleeping. Same thing yesterday same thing vs Chelsea last week, Personnel wise, your team is superior to every team in the league why not deploy tactics that will make you dominant in every game

The way you pressed Palace in the last 35mins, thats the way teams like Liverpool and City press their opponent for 90mins

Probably thats why all your creative players are struggling, Pogba Sanchez Martial Mata Rashford have been below their best lately. They cannot all be lazy,
I agree fully with u
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:11pm On Mar 06, 2018
Hmmm. Raumdeuter. This table you're shaking, plenty Mourinho fans dey dia o
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:15pm On Mar 06, 2018
Leyqute:
Hmmm. Ramdeuter. This table you're shaking, plenty Mourinho fans dey dia o

Which is why I don't want to say too much and I wrote this

Why I dont want to dwell on it is because some people might start getting defensive and think I mean Peps way is the only way to play football. But if you have a strong side like Man utd they should be playing better
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 6:28pm On Mar 06, 2018
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 6:31pm On Mar 06, 2018
Dayo is very intelligent and can actually be objective whenever he feels like it except when his village people visit him from ogbomosho and he start saying some insane things or doing apple and oranges comparisons.

The issue of high pressing is really not Mou style per say and if you look back long enough, you will discover that even during Fergie days we don't really do high pressing which makes most of our players lazy. I think we most time employ zonal marking instead of pressing high up the pitch. Mou and the players obviously have a fair share of the lazy attitude of our players and I believe they can do better. Just look at Pogba and Sanchez yesterday, no matter the tactics of the manager, what both of them serve us in the first half of that game yesterday is unacceptable. For a counter-attack tactics to work, the players must be able to play their part which is play the damn ball and not lazying around like a lizard.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:45pm On Mar 06, 2018
sinizia:


I agree with you 101%. Truer words have never been spoken. Pep Guardiola's teams, be it Barcelona, Bayern or City, will attack you from the first minute to the end with endless waves of pressing. By doing so, they get all the possession, put their opponents under pressure, neutralise their attacking threats. They don't relax by waiting to counter their opponents like United did against City, they relax by HOLDING THE BALL AND PASSING IT AROUND BEAUTIFULLY like against Chelsea. This way, they won't stand the chance of conceding, rather they toy with their opponents and if chance develops, they score more and more. That's why Pep said he'll retire if he stops playing attacking football.

I get really pissed that with all the pace and attacking threats we have, Mourinho will set up my team to defend and then hope for a lucky chance to score, or wait till they're losing before attacking. It's annoying. We had to be losing before Mourinho realised his mistake and attacked with vigour yesterday. It's up to Mourinho to force them to attack from the beginning till end, any player that can't adhere to his tactic, off he goes.

A leopard cannot change its spots, it'll take more than a physical intervention for Mou to switch an attacking tactic. Never realized how far City had gone in the league till i noticed the goal difference, it's mind blowing!, the closest in terms of goals scored is Liverpool but they've conceded so much too.
I've never really liked Lukaku as a striker due to his poor conversion rate but it's clear that the Bus tactics has had a negative effect on his soccer, he's not a good finisher and at the same time is being subjected to a little number of goal scoring chances.
As for others, especially Pogba and Sanchez, i just weak.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PlainJAY(m): 7:04pm On Mar 06, 2018
larride:

Dayo is very intelligent and can actually be objective whenever he feels like it except when his village people visit him from ogbomosho and he start saying some insane things or doing apple and oranges comparisons.


Are you lauding him or abusing him ?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 7:57pm On Mar 06, 2018
Lana1:
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Na Pastor elrony dey front in orange shirt.
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Na oasis007 be the baba with grey hair and black cap wey dey on my left.
Na bushwickbill dey wear sweater for the side by that tire.
Na neezar dey in white shirt and black stripes on the other side.
Na Nihilist, diggz and skimpledawg be the three guys behind nezzar wey dey try famz us.

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Lana...... I have made it my personal mission to frustrate you on NL by any means possible..... angry angry angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:09pm On Mar 06, 2018
raumdeuter:


In the last 2 games he was able to score when you were attacking and not when you were parking the bus. Basically Strikers perform better when the entire team is attacking

The major part of our argument that time was what he contributed where he wasn't scoring. How he helped or did not help the team, his overall movement as a striker and pressing for the ball.

No doubt Lukaku will score if we play more forward football.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:50pm On Mar 06, 2018
diggz:



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Bet why??

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:02pm On Mar 06, 2018
PSG fans are making things harder for their goalkeeper with all the smoke they are creating.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:09pm On Mar 06, 2018
Madrid has a 3 goal lead but you can count 6 players in PSG half even without the ball.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:12pm On Mar 06, 2018
Cadec007:
Iamthoney, maiconyoung, neezar,........ gucciqueen38, ellabae.....come and watch me thrash c.palace.
My guy, I couldn't come, we were in Florence mourning the demise of Astori.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:17pm On Mar 06, 2018
Dimaria is a brainless incompetent nincompopp TBVH
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Cadec007(m): 10:21pm On Mar 06, 2018
Leyqute:
Dimaria is a brainless incompetent nincompopp TBVH
hahahahaha
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:21pm On Mar 06, 2018
Leyqute:
Dimaria is a brainless incompetent nincompopp TBVH

Describe Benzema please! grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:22pm On Mar 06, 2018
Why did LvG buy DiMaria? Clearly he was on his way downhill. He's been both toothless and brainless so far.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:26pm On Mar 06, 2018
Leyqute:
Why did LvG buy DiMaria? Clearly he was on his way downhill. He's been both toothless and brainless so far.

And one actually needs the brain for the teeth to work properly! ! cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:29pm On Mar 06, 2018

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:32pm On Mar 06, 2018
I was talking about Mbappe after the first leg, someone I couldn't remember did not agree with me. the guy is a bit overrated, so is most of these PSG players. I know my team is not playing well. but this Madrid team will not beat me home and away.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:34pm On Mar 06, 2018
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222m+189m = Getting booted out in R16 grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:37pm On Mar 06, 2018
Cavani will always be a useless striker
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:38pm On Mar 06, 2018
If only PSG had "Jambody" nwa mama grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:38pm On Mar 06, 2018
elrony:


And one actually needs the brain for the teeth to work properly! ! cheesy

Abi!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:39pm On Mar 06, 2018
Leyqute:


Abi!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:41pm On Mar 06, 2018
The funny thing is R.M defenders believe and want to get on the scoresheet.

Marcelo turned himself into a winger and Ramos decided to be an AM.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:43pm On Mar 06, 2018
elrony:


Describe Benzema please! grin

A striker without balls. wink

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