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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 7:42am On Mar 07, 2018
gbosaa:


I think Eze might displace somebody. He would be the Oboabona or Sunday Mbah in that team.
I think he would do well in the friendlies.


If he plays an impressive game, Omeruo should get worried for his position since Balogun seems to be un touchable
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:44am On Mar 07, 2018
tbaba1234:


Very unlikely..

Awaziem, Omeruo, Balogun and Ekong are miles ahead of him..



You never can tell. I still think he might be the surprise inclusion in that team. I see him sneaking in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:46am On Mar 07, 2018
mazimee:



If he plays an impressive game, Omeruo should get worried for his position since Balogun seems to be un touchable

Balogun in my opinion is our best defender. He already has his name stamped on the new Eagle’s shirt except the unthinkable happens before the World Cup.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:46am On Mar 07, 2018
somehow:
And which league made him this good?

So if he leaves the league, what happens to the league? You can't eat your cake and have it sir.

When next you want to talk down on the league, remember the best aren't encouraged to stay behind.

Omoyele is good for the level, he is playing now.. You do not know how good he truly is, till he gets tested. We have seen shining lights in the NPFL unable to reproduce elsewhere.

If he is to improve and challenge himself, he has to leave. That is just the fact.

The level of coaching in the league will not help him improve himself.
The quality of the league will not help him challenge himself.

I want good prospects to leave to clubs where they can achieve the height of their potentials. I want them to leave early so they can learn and relearn the basics of the game.

I can not in good conscience encourage a prospect to stay. Even if he is earning the best in Nigeria, he will not reach the heights of the game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 7:55am On Mar 07, 2018
somehow:
Ederson Echiejile's first child.
Meaning he'll ask out of the friendlies to be with mother and child. A vacant position at the LB available to seal

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 7:58am On Mar 07, 2018
gbosaa:


Balogun in my opinion is our best defender. He already has his name stamped on the new Eagle’s shirt except the unthinkable happens before the World Cup.


Best defender? I disagree. Ekong is more solid.I know Balogun is definitely going to the world cup , my point is that Omeruo spot is up for grab if anybody puts on an impressive game in the friendlies.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 8:00am On Mar 07, 2018
nelszx:

Meaning he'll ask out of the friendlies to be with mother and child. A vacant position at the LB available to seal

Guy your mind Bad ooo, and you think he doesn't know this and won't act to it ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:01am On Mar 07, 2018
Be fair to the coach abeg, fine he started the game with the wrong approach but he was the same person that rectified it which brought the game to a respectable 4:2.

Odah was the GK while Ajiboye was away and he had alot of clean sheets, it was normal for the coach to continue with such GK who didn't give him any reason to change him. (Don't fix it if it's not broken they say).

According to Tbaba, the defence exposed the GK and also the tactics, maybe Ajiboye would have been the one conceding the 3 goals just as he conceded the 4 goals against CHAN morroco and that would have soiled him more.

I hope you got my points sir?
Kog45:
TheSuperNerd did you known why our coaches will always receiving bashing and knocks.

I don't expect any coach to drop Ezenwa or Ajiboye on the bench based on their experience with national team.

This is more reasons foreign coaches would always have an edge.They don't joke with their first choice unless on injury or card situation.

In NPFL they changed keeper like clothes,one for home the other for away,so how do we get a good keeper for national team.

Truly Odah had a great start this season but that should not give him an edge in this particular match,not blaming the young man but the coach.

Sometimes they got carried away with little show,remember how Oliseh benched Mikel for Onobi,craziness.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Abusule007: 8:01am On Mar 07, 2018
tbaba1234:


I believe Rohr said one player not 2. OGN reported 2 but the original interview said one.

Either ways, we will know soon.

The 2nd player could be Ezenwa

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:07am On Mar 07, 2018
Abusule007:

The 2nd player could be Ezenwa

Yeah ezenwa.. makes sense
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:08am On Mar 07, 2018
And what are you presently doing to improve the league? Criticism is the easiest thing to do, providing solutions and acting on it is the hardest.

Everyone can criticize but only few can make right.

I wouldn't call anyone an hater, never will I when it comes to the league but will call out those who berate the league without inputs on what they have done to correct it.
Icon4s:


That was the same "hate" tag placed on me all through the CHAN because I don't condone nonsense football.

Some of us have come a long way in the followership of the local league. We know how it was and we know how it is now.

The league is in a sorry state.

No hate tag can stop me from saying things the way they are.

Hate my comments from here to the moon and back.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:11am On Mar 07, 2018
I'm actually saying it the way it is, you're the one trying to bring in sentiments.

I asked again, why has Rohr been using him all these while when we have always had options or are you saying we don't or didn't have LB around the world?

Secondly, where is Oshaniwa that deputised him during Keshi's reign? That guy was fairly good too but went into oblivion after confederation's cup.
MetalJigsaw:
I am not saying he's a bad player though. But in essence he isn't among the best right now and I am sure the coache is aware of this.

And I'm really baffled the way you're being so economical with the truth.

Thank God you're not Rohr, it would have been the same old story for our dear SE team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:17am On Mar 07, 2018
Was this how England, Spain, Italy etc built their league? Encouraging their best to leave just because the coaches aren't up to foreign standard? The coaches abroad, how did they become good or was it overnight? Most of the coaches doing wonders in some of the best leagues in the world are foreigners. If their home coaches were that good, foreigners won't be employed.

It seems some of us just like setting different rules for the NPFL.

One time, you're berating the league of poor play and standards, next moment, you want the best to leave. So pray tell, how do you want the league to improve?
tbaba1234:


Omoyele is good for the level, he is playing now.. You do not know how good he truly is, till he gets tested. We have seen shining lights in the NPFL unable to reproduce elsewhere.

If he is to improve and challenge himself, he has to leave. That is just the fact.

The level of coaching in the league will not help him improve himself.
The quality of the league will not help him challenge himself.

I want good prospects to leave to clubs where they can achieve the height of their potentials. I want them to leave early so they can learn and relearn the basics of the game.

I can not in good conscience encourage a prospect to stay. Even if he is earning the best in Nigeria, he will not reach the heights of the game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 8:19am On Mar 07, 2018
mazimee:


Guy your mind Bad ooo, and you think he doesn't know this and won't act to it ?

Hahaha my guy that is what may likely play out
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:19am On Mar 07, 2018
When friendly still far? Ask out nbok? Na him wan breastfeed?
nelszx:

Meaning he'll ask out of the friendlies to be with mother and child. A vacant position at the LB available to seal
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:20am On Mar 07, 2018
somehow:
Be fair to the coach abeg, fine he started the game with the wrong approach but he was the same person that rectified it which brought the game to a respectable 4:2.

Odah was the GK while Ajiboye was away and he had alot of clean sheets, it was normal for the coach to continue with such GK who didn't give him any reason to change him. (Don't fix it if it's not broken they say).

According to Tbaba, the defence exposed the GK and also the tactics, maybe Ajiboye would have been the one conceding the 3 goals just as he conceded the 4 goals against CHAN morroco and that would have soiled him more.

I hope you got my points sir?
Honestly not condemning the keeper but why white coach always stick to their number one and not care about 2nd choice performance if the number one is available.

I remember when Courtious got injury and Cech stood in with good performance but when Courtious returned,Mourinho handed him his number one position straight.

That's my point not blaming Odah for those goals i even expect Odah to move to another club to command regular shirt,watching him in NPFL invitational tournament showed that he has it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:24am On Mar 07, 2018
Let me burst your bubble.

Wenger rotates his GK. Cech for league, Ospina for cup
Pep - Ederson for league, Bravo for cup
Enersto - Ste the gen for league, Cilleson for cup. Etc

Alot of white coaches rotate their GKs too, yesterday was just a wrong approach in terms of tactics sir.

Ajiboye's last game was a disaster, conceded 4 goals, if the coach had benched Odah using Ajiboye, what would you have said if he was the one picking the ball from the net 3 times in 15 mins?

Kog45:
Honestly not condemning the keeper but why white coach always stick to their number one and not care about 2nd choice performance if the number one is available.

I remember when Courtious got injury and Cech stood in with good performance but when Courtious returned,Mourinho handed him his number one position straight.

That's my point not blaming Odah for those goals i even expect Odah to move to another club to command regular shirt,watching him in NPFL invitational tournament showed that he has it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:25am On Mar 07, 2018
tbaba1234:


Yeah ezenwa.. makes sense
But Ezenwa is a full fledged eagles player even number one,so i don't think is among the two CHAN players
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:27am On Mar 07, 2018
somehow:
Let me burst your bubble.

Wenger rotates his GK. Cech for league, Ospina for cup
Pep - Ederson for league, Bravo for cup
Enersto - Ste the gen for league, Cilleson for cup. Etc

Alot of white coaches rotate their GKs too, yesterday was just a wrong approach in terms of tactics sir.

Yes they do rotate when it comes to unimportant matches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:29am On Mar 07, 2018
Unimportant matches? You mean cup games are not important?
Kog45:
Yes they do rotate when it comes to unimportant matches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 8:31am On Mar 07, 2018
gbosaa:


Balogun in my opinion is our best defender. He already has his name stamped on the new Eagle’s shirt except the unthinkable happens before the World Cup.



Balogun is not d same balogun dt played very well during d qualifiers,intact he was a suspect in our last two games against Zambia and Algiers,d last friendly against argies too he didn't play well.its not a must we use "oyinbo wall",once we c any trace of deep in form, we shld try oda defensive options,no b every time "oyinbo wall"go gell wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:33am On Mar 07, 2018
somehow:
Unimportant matches? You mean cup games are not important?
Yes,hope you know how many matches Romero has kept for Man utd this season or Caballero at Chelsea.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:35am On Mar 07, 2018
somehow:
Was this how England, Spain, Italy etc built their league? Encouraging their best to leave just because the coaches aren't up to foreign standard? The coaches abroad, how did they become good or was it overnight? Most of the coaches doing wonders in some of the best leagues in the world are foreigners. If their home coaches were that good, foreigners won't be employed.

It seems some of us just like setting different rules for the NPFL.

One time, you're berating the league of poor play and standards, next moment, you want the best to leave. So pray tell, how do you want the league to improve?

If you have a player in the Nigerian league today, that has the potential to become a neymar, would you let that player stay in Nigeria?

Do you think he will develop to a level where Barca can come and buy him?

The structures needed to help a player reach their best level are simply not available.

The coaches are not there.
The facilities are not there.

Your best players will not just stay in Nigeria for nothing. You have to be offering something.

If a talented player knows that Nigeria has the best coaching in Africa, he might be willing to develop under great coaches before going abroad.

If our salaries are comparable to the north Africans, more players will stay home.

You can not be offering nothing and asking players to stay.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:36am On Mar 07, 2018
Cup game is never unimportant sir. You get to play in Europe if you win the FA cup in England.
Kog45:
Yes,hope you know how many matches Romero has kept for Man utd this season or Caballero at Chelsea.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 8:39am On Mar 07, 2018
mazimee:



If he plays an impressive game, Omeruo should get worried for his position since Balogun seems to be un touchable



Y re we always finding it very easy to pick out omeruo,what if he turns out to b our best defender at d world cup, dis guy is now playing week in week out at his club,aside ekong,he's also consistent for his club in turkey,balogun u claim untouchable, doesn't get to play games at d club every week,and from latest report we av heard from tbaba1234,he is experiencing deep in form at moment smiley,
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 8:39am On Mar 07, 2018
mazimee:


Guy your mind Bad ooo, and you think he doesn't know this and won't act to it ?
Make he rest......His family needs him more
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:45am On Mar 07, 2018
elyte89:




Y re we always finding it very easy to pick out omeruo,what if he turns out to b our best defender at d world cup, dis guy is now playing week in week out at his club,aside ekong,he's also consistent for his club in turkey,balogun u claim untouchable, doesn't get to play games at d club every week,and from latest report we av heard from tbaba1234,he is experiencing deep in form at moment smiley,

Balogun has actually started the last few games for his club before his red card.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:47am On Mar 07, 2018
How can their salaries be up to that of North Africa when the league doesn't have sponsors nor private owners like their counterparts?

How many private owners do we have in the league? We have stinkingly rich Nigerians everywhere, yet only few look the way of the league. Most don't want to plant, all want to reap.

Solution is what we need not berating. We all know what is not in the league, how to get these things into the league is the koko, then acting on them. Which of the NPFL do you support or have ever contacted to chip in ideas and offer?

EPL is what it is because the English people first of all took it as their own before foreigners came in.

In the days of kick and follow, the English fans never neglected it, they kept watching their kick and follow until it grew. The citizens grew it.

For NPFL to grow, the citizens must be ready to grow it. Angels won't come and until then, don't expect magic.

Encourage those who are trying to right the wrong.

Buy tickets for those in Nigeria who wants to go watch league matches so that money would be available for clubs to run their affairs.

We have some privately owned clubs in Nigeria, buy tickets for random people so they can go see the matches. Without money in the league, there is no way players will earn high.

Most times I go for live matches, I take some people along, pay their tickets, I don't get to pay to enter match Venues. I also encourage my relatives to go watch matches...

Currently, Kano pillars pay the highest amount of salaries, hence the reason they get to keep their best for seasons. Check their stands every match days, always filled up because the fans have taken the club to be theirs.

Went to watch pillars vs MFM, the stadium was filled to capacity at Agege, guess what? Kano pillar's fans were more than the home crowd to the extent that pillars started dashing MFM fans jerseys lol.

Let's act if we want the league to grow. Ticket is just #500 for CCL match (regular) and #200/#300 for league matches. Sponsor crowds to match Venues, the money is what is needed to grow the league!

tbaba1234:


If you have a player in the Nigerian league today, that has the potential to become a neymar, would you let that player stay in Nigeria?

Do you think he will develop to a level where Barca can come and buy him?

The structures needed to help a player reach their best level is simple not available.

The coaches are not there.
The facilities are not there.

Your best players will not just stay in Nigeria for nothing. You have to be offering something.

If a talented player knows that Nigeria has the best coaching in Africa, he might be willing to develop under great coaches before going abroad.

If our salaries are comparable to the north Africans, more players will stay home.

You can not be offering nothing and asking players to stay.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:59am On Mar 07, 2018
MFM is playing MC Algiers today by 4pm

Venue : Soccer temple, Agege.

You can decide to buy tickets for Nigerians to go fill up the stands.

#500 for regulars. You can open a thread, request for those willing to go watch the match live and pay for their tickets.

Contact the club, have some ticket bought and reserve a roll, whoever goes through the path to the roll goes in for free.

Or contact sport journalists in Nigeria via their twitter and Instagram pages so they can help you give out free tickets.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:00am On Mar 07, 2018
Kog45:
icon4s baba i think you should dust that your coaching certificate and contribute to the growth of the league than running it down.

I think as a veteran you should understand better,so asking me am i satisfied with the league or CHAN team is not the issue.

Hope you read TheSuperNerd post on NPFL,that's it.The post was a balance one not telling us the league is not good blabla.......

Pls go and read tbaba1234 comments on Stephen Odey which was the genesis cos i asked why are you so harsh on the young man and i said you will never passed the same comments on Osimhen Victor.

He explained better and we move on to the extent i say sorry.


Firstly, we must all note something on this thread. Criticism does not mean hatred.
It has become a norm here that whenever you criticize a player or a team you are tagged "a hater".

This same thing has been transferred to if you criticize the local league then you hate the home based players. How can that be?

If I am not pleased with the way things are going am I not free to voice it out?

Even for some of those that are calling the league critics haters I know how far I went to defend the Flying Eagles crew's decision of selecting NPFL players for camping. Those that are pointing fingers today are even those criticizing the selection of those NPFL players. Why didn't I call them haters?

Of course if you are not a hater then you must be a lover.

So how many of the "lovers" of the NPFL here even watch the NPFL matches on TV? How many have used their money to buy tickets to watch them at stadiums? How many watch CAF Club Competition matches live on TV. How many have burnt their data to watch these games online?
How many have any NPFL Club they support?
You are a lover but you don't Identify with them. That one na Love?

Talking about my coaching certificate, you don't have to be a coach to be a sports administrator. We know those that have the say in sports administration in Nigeria, we can only criticize and recommend which is what we do as analysts of the game.

Talking about Stephen Odey, those who were long enough on this thread know how I personally clamored for the inclusion of Odey in the Amuneke's U20 Team. But I kicked against his inclusion in the Super Eagles because he was not (even now) a Super Eagles material. Does that mean I hate him?

If someone should prefer a player over the other, that is his choice or Opinion. It does not mean he hates the other player.

We all want the best for our national team and leagues. Nobody should be tagged a name for showing his displeasures or preferences.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:03am On Mar 07, 2018
somehow:
How can their salaries be up to that of North Africa when the league doesn't have sponsors nor private owners like their counterparts?

How many private owners do we have in the league? We have stinkingly rich Nigerians everywhere, yet only few look the way of the league. None want to plant, all want to reap.

Solution is what we need not berating. We all know what is not in the league, how to get these things into the league is the koko, then acting on them. Which of the NPFL do you support or have ever contacted to chip in ideas and offer?

EPL is what it is because the English people first of all took it as their own before foreigners came in.

In the days of kick and follow, the English fan never neglected it, they kept watching their kick and follow until it grew. The citizens grew it.

For the NPFL to grow, the citizens must be ready to grow it. Angels won't come and until then, don't expect magic.

Encourage those who are trying to right the wrong.

Buy tickets for those in Nigeria who wants to go watch league matches so that money would be available for clubs to run the clubs.

We have some privately owned clubs in Nigeria, buy tickets for random people so they can go see the matches. Without money in the league, there is no way players will earn high.

Currently, Kano pillars pay the highest amount of salaries, hence the reason they get to keep their best for seasons. Check their stands every match days, always filled up because the fans have taken the club to be theirs.

Went to watch pillars vs MFM, the stadium was filled to capacity at Agege, guess what? Kano pillar's fans were more than the home crowd to the extent that pillars started dashing MFM fans jerseys lol.

Let's act if we want the league to grow. Ticket is just #500 for CCL match (regular) and #200/#300 for league matches. Sponsor crowds to match Venues, the money is what is needed to grow the league!


Now, that the league is not yet there. Let players go and improve themselves and earn money doing so.

Our coaches should work hard to improve themselves to best standards. With good coaching alone and proper scouting, you will see better quality.

The clubs should have feeder teams where trained coaches groom talents early. That way, they do not have to argue with a player about his age.

Messi joined Barca as a child and his talent was developed. Do you know how many messis/ronaldos/neymars have wasted on the streets of Nigeria. Clubs should scout for young players and stop presenting uncles as 18 year olds.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:10am On Mar 07, 2018
somehow:
And what are you presently doing to improve the league? Criticism is the easiest thing to do, providing solutions and acting on it is the hardest.

Everyone can criticize but only few can make right.

I wouldn't call anyone an hater, never will I when it comes to the league but will call out those who berate the league without inputs on what they have done to correct it.

So what has been your own contributions?

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