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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 10:44pm On Mar 06, 2018
Leyqute:
The funny thing is R.M defenders believe and want to get on the scoresheet.

Marcelo turned himself into a winger and Ramos decided to be an AM.

Those Madrid defenders mad no be small, the kind confidence them dey use play sef, I dey wonder where we see our own jittery defenders from. it's annoying.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:45pm On Mar 06, 2018
Leyqute:


A striker without balls. wink

LMAOOOgrin grin grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 10:50pm On Mar 06, 2018
GloryIsaac:


A leopard cannot change its spots, it'll take more than a physical intervention for Mou to switch an attacking tactic. Never realized how far City had gone in the league till i noticed the goal difference, it's mind blowing!, the closest in terms of goals scored is Liverpool but they've conceded so much too.
I've never really liked Lukaku as a striker due to his poor conversion rate but it's clear that the Bus tactics has had a negative effect on his soccer, he's not a good finisher and at the same time is being subjected to a little number of goal scoring chances.
As for others, especially Pogba and Sanchez, i just weak.

But he stupid leopard that Mourinho is changes his spot and starts playing attacking football when we go down with a goal or 2.

Why he does not attack from the onset is what we Dont understand. Honestly I Dont know how we an yesterday because I got angry and left the match because our play has been unadventurous and I did not expect us to come back after going 2goals down. Na morning I see say we done win match.

How many times have we come back like this under Mourinho?

I repeat, we should not be this far behind city. Imagine that Newcastle match fa!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:51pm On Mar 06, 2018

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:55pm On Mar 06, 2018
codedguy1:


But he stupid leopard that Mourinho is changes his spot and starts playing attacking football when we go down with a goal or 2.

Why he does not attack from the onset is what we Dont understand. Honestly I Dont know how we an yesterday because I got angry and left the match because our play has been unadventurous and I did not expect us to come back after going 2goals down. Na morning I see say we done win match.

How many times have we come back like this under Mourinho?

I repeat, we should not be this far behind city. Imagine that Newcastle match fa!


Mou's issue is more than what the eye can see, i just weak.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:59pm On Mar 06, 2018
Mou , the only leopard that can change his skin!!

Codedguy1 2018. cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:03pm On Mar 06, 2018
codedguy1:


But he stupid leopard that Mourinho is changes his spot and starts playing attacking football when we go down with a goal or 2.

Why he does not attack from the onset is what we Dont understand
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The bold here is they key question
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 11:06pm On Mar 06, 2018
lol, imagine changing what made you the most successful manager in the game bcuz some unknown persons from a random forum in Nigeria said so. cheesy




and all hail baldie the truth and life, beginning and end, the alpha beta and omega, whose style, all managers must use, cuz he has 17champions league and 97league titles in 3 nd half yrs. FOH!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:14pm On Mar 06, 2018
Everybody just dey shake table upandan.

Tea go soon pour for graand o cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:15pm On Mar 06, 2018
elrony:
Mou , the only leopard that can change his skin!!

Codedguy1 2018. cheesy

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Barca fans no go kee pesin with laugh, what's this?
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grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:17pm On Mar 06, 2018
Leyqute:
Everybody just dey shake table upandan.

Tea go soon pour for graand o cheesy

Let Sergeant Mayorkun come and do his work cheesy grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 11:28pm On Mar 06, 2018
elrony:
Mou , the only leopard that can change his skin!!

Codedguy1 2018. cheesy

No one notices. Mourinho actually goes to the dressing room to change his spots like Clark Kent when we go a goal down grin grin

@ Gloryisaac The guy matter tire me.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 11:36pm On Mar 06, 2018
codedguy1:


No one notices. Mourinho actually goes to the dressing room to change his spots like Clark Kent when we go a goal down grin grin
grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ToyinDipo(m): 11:48pm On Mar 06, 2018
There are different ways of playing football.
For all of Klopp's high pressing style, he hasn't won a single trophy outside his country.
A league title winning team went trophiless under Pep
A team that made CL final 3 seasons consecutively and won 1, couldn't make a CL final under Pep
If a style is tested and guarantees success for you, why change it.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by humblesteve(m): 1:56am On Mar 07, 2018
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bibidear(f): 6:27am On Mar 07, 2018
GloryIsaac:
When Ronaldo hears the Champions League anthem

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For the sake of Balon D'Or cheesy
u are always on point

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Aitee1: 8:30am On Mar 07, 2018
KingTom:
bros that uncle is not a man utd fan. I thought you could deduce that from his unrelenting sarcasm? grin




Hmmmmm...happy new year!


Drop your contact for me or you call if you still have mine...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by phaamsaam: 9:54am On Mar 07, 2018
larride:


Those Madrid defenders mad no be small, the kind confidence them dey use play sef, I dey wonder where we see our own jittery defenders from. it's annoying.
Psg had no creativity,just harmless passes,only di maria was trying to beat his man,mpabbe showed flashes,but was selfish, lots of spaces on the right,alves was shambolic
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:19pm On Mar 07, 2018
larride:
Dayo is very intelligent and can actually be objective whenever he feels like it except when his village people visit him from ogbomosho and he start saying some insane things or doing apple and oranges comparisons.

The issue of high pressing is really not Mou style per say and if you look back long enough, you will discover that even during Fergie days we don't really do high pressing which makes most of our players lazy. I think we most time employ zonal marking instead of pressing high up the pitch. Mou and the players obviously have a fair share of the lazy attitude of our players and I believe they can do better. Just look at Pogba and Sanchez yesterday, no matter the tactics of the manager, what both of them serve us in the first half of that game yesterday is unacceptable. For a counter-attack tactics to work, the players must be able to play their part which is play the damn ball and not lazying around like a lizard.
We look at other managers and their identity and tactics is there. Do you know what exactly is Mourinho's tactics or game plan?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Neymar1095(m): 1:03pm On Mar 07, 2018
ToyinDipo:
There are different ways of playing football.
For all of Klopp's high pressing style, he hasn't won a single trophy outside his country.
A league title winning team went trophiless under Pep
A team that made CL final 3 seasons consecutively and won 1, couldn't make a CL final under Pep
If a style is tested and guarantees success for you, why change it.
Keep saying trash to defend your useless coach . When did Bayern make 3 champions league final consecutively? A title winning team that finished 4th with 66 points level with van gaal useless United. A system that made your bus parking fool to almost send Chelsea to relegation before he was sacked. You people have diarrhoea when it comes to being biased. It never stops rushing

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 1:23pm On Mar 07, 2018
eph12:

We look at other managers and their identity and tactics is there. Do you know what exactly is Mourinho's tactics or game plan?

Mou is not known as a high pressing coach, it's not his tactics and it won't start now in my opinion. Mou team over the years have always been known for their blistering counter attack. Most times we focus so much on Mou that we exonerate the players who loves making a simple pass looks like rocket science. If I ask you Mou tactics Now, you yourself will be able to tell me what it is, Mou has always been a conservative manager, sit back relax and hit on the counter, there are times his team will attack and attack from start to finish and there are some times he will set them up to sit back and hit on counter. There's no one way to play soccer, it's a tested and trusted formula for Mou, why will be want to change that?

I think sometimes we tend to interpret counter-attack as park the bus tactics. Even the best manager in the league history did not employ a high pressing tactics and he's known for his counter-attacking style. ghen ghen pressing is not the only way to play football. For all of Liverpool Klopp ghen ghen pressing, he still remains trophyless with them, even Pep went trophyless last season. Each manager will use the formula that's going to bring him success.

Whether you like the style or not is another thing entirely.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 1:28pm On Mar 07, 2018
My main observation is that our players are lazy during pressing, except Lingard and Herrera!

If 80% of them can give the kind of energy those 2 give repeatedly, then I woulda comfortably be blaming oga Mou 100%.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 1:33pm On Mar 07, 2018
elrony:
My main observation is that our players are lazy during pressing, except Lingard and Herrera!

If 80% of them can give the kind of energy those 2 give repeatedly, then I woulda comfortably be blaming oga Mou 100%.

We have the laziest players in the squad, you will see them lose the ball and instead of them to try recover the ball, you either see them blame the grass, blame the ref, blame their other team mate or even blame themselves. I can't count how many times I have seen them jogging upandown. Check whenever Lingard is pressing from the front and he see his teammates jogging around, he joins them and just stop the pressing.

The truth is that it doesn't start today, our players have always been lazy with the zonal marking system that's always employed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:35pm On Mar 07, 2018
larride:


Mou is not known as a high pressing coach, it's not his tactics and it won't start now in my opinion. Mou team over the years have always been known for their blistering counter attack. Most times we focus so much on Mou that we exonerate the players who loves making a simple pass looks like rocket science. If I ask you Mou tactics Now, you yourself will be able to tell me what it is, Mou has always been a conservative manager, sit back relax and hit on the counter, there are times his team will attack and attack from start to finish and there are some times he will set them up to sit back and hit on counter. There's no one way to play soccer, it's a tested and trusted formula for Mou, why will be want to change that?

I think sometimes we tend to interpret counter-attack as park the bus tactics. Even the best manager in the league history did not employ a high pressing tactics and he's known for his counter-attacking style. ghen ghen pressing is not the only way to play football. For all of Liverpool Klopp ghen ghen pressing, he still remains trophyless with them, even Pep went trophyless last season. Each manager will use the formula that's going to bring him success.

Whether you like the style or not is another thing entirely.
Which of these players were lazy before, either presently or in their previous life? The Sanchez experiment is not working out why? Which of these players couldn't pass before? Is it that they don't have a strategy when it comes to attack or they purposely refuse to play as instructed or inject some energy until they are down or time running out? Is Mourinho purposely refusing to put some square peg in a square hole in a couple of positions in the team? It can't be money because if he can spend 70-90m on a single player and offer big wages to his players, then the transfer budget is big enough.

If you are saying he has to change the full team before he can be able to play as a team and compete with the big boys then we should just close shop and go home because that's never going to happen, because players will come and go. Nobody is even asking the team to go gung ho on opponents, but something as simple as keeping the ball, passing to each other, and showing some training ground attacking movement is what we want to see. These guys play like they don't know each other, like they don't know where to be if the other is with the ball.

In summary, the quality of football on display does not give a good account of the amount spent. Teams like newcastle, burnley, stoke, crystal palace etc should never ever make United play conservative, depressing football

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:37pm On Mar 07, 2018
larride:


We have the laziest players in the squad, you will see them lose the ball and instead of them to try recover the ball, you either see them blame the grass, blame the ref, blame their other team mate or even blame themselves. I can't count how many times I have seen them jogging upandown. Check whenever Lingard is pressing from the front and he see his teammates jogging around, he joins them and just stop the pressing.

The truth is that it doesn't start today, our players have always been lazy with the zonal marking system that's always employed.
And what does the coach do? What is his reaction?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:55pm On Mar 07, 2018
larride:


We have the laziest players in the squad, you will see them lose the ball and instead of them to try recover the ball, you either see them blame the grass, blame the ref, blame their other team mate or even blame themselves. I can't count how many times I have seen them jogging upandown. Check whenever Lingard is pressing from the front and he see his teammates jogging around, he joins them and just stop the pressing.

The truth is that it doesn't start today, our players have always been lazy with the zonal marking system that's always employed.

Sometimes I wonder what goes on in their minds as professional footballers.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:58pm On Mar 07, 2018
eph12:

And what does the coach do? What is his reaction?

Most times it's not just about the coach. The zonal marking sef, our chairmen can't execute effectively.

Those guys can settle down and offer hot shiit on a platter.

angry angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:28pm On Mar 07, 2018
elrony:


Most times it's not just about the coach. The zonal marking sef, our chairmen can't execute effectively.

Those guys can settle down and offer hot shiit on a platter.

angry angry
I will understand that if I see a livid coach on the stand, not someone with a smug on his face sitting on the bench and waiting for the team to be in real trouble or time running out.

The team is useless everyone says, but one of the major culprits was brought in by him. Does it mean Mourinho cannot find a way to make Pogba a weapon or he is insisting on a particular style for Pogba? Off the ball movements are learnt in training because you have an idea of what your guy is most likely to do with the ball. It must have been practised many times in training. Do you see anything like that?

Does the zonal marking account for the poor way we attack unless we are pushed to a corner? We play too narrow, too close to the central, which makes it easier for defence to manage, only Rashford tries to stretch the team. But when he is with the ball, his options are limited. I look at the 18 and i can only see one or two red shirts even when we are looking for a goal. The players should be pouring forward but something is holding them back, and our manager is not there to push them forward.

Mourinho can't afford to change the whole team. Everybody is saying buy Griezeman, buy Dybala lol like we can buy everybody

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by brainiacadeboi(m): 4:34pm On Mar 07, 2018
larride:


Mou is not known as a high pressing coach, it's not his tactics and it won't start now in my opinion. Mou team over the years have always been known for their blistering counter attack. Most times we focus so much on Mou that we exonerate the players who loves making a simple pass looks like rocket science. If I ask you Mou tactics Now, you yourself will be able to tell me what it is, Mou has always been a conservative manager, sit back relax and hit on the counter, there are times his team will attack and attack from start to finish and there are some times he will set them up to sit back and hit on counter. There's no one way to play soccer, it's a tested and trusted formula for Mou, why will be want to change that?

I think sometimes we tend to interpret counter-attack as park the bus tactics. Even the best manager in the league history did not employ a high pressing tactics and he's known for his counter-attacking style. ghen ghen pressing is not the only way to play football. For all of Liverpool Klopp ghen ghen pressing, he still remains trophyless with them, even Pep went trophyless last season. Each manager will use the formula that's going to bring him success.

Whether you like the style or not is another thing entirely.
Mourinho is know for his blistering counter-attacking style but do this team even know how to counter-attack at all? How many blistering counter attacking goals have we scored this season?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:58pm On Mar 07, 2018
larride:


Mou is not known as a high pressing coach, it's not his tactics and it won't start now in my opinion. Mou team over the years have always been known for their blistering counter attack. Most times we focus so much on Mou that we exonerate the players who loves making a simple pass looks like rocket science. If I ask you Mou tactics Now, you yourself will be able to tell me what it is, Mou has always been a conservative manager, sit back relax and hit on the counter, there are times his team will attack and attack from start to finish and there are some times he will set them up to sit back and hit on counter. There's no one way to play soccer, it's a tested and trusted formula for Mou, why will be want to change that?

I think sometimes we tend to interpret counter-attack as park the bus tactics. Even the best manager in the league history did not employ a high pressing tactics and he's known for his counter-attacking style. ghen ghen pressing is not the only way to play football. For all of Liverpool Klopp ghen ghen pressing, he still remains trophyless with them, even Pep went trophyless last season. Each manager will use the formula that's going to bring him success.

Whether you like the style or not is another thing entirely.

I will keep saying this. even SAF played counter attacking football against the likes of arsenal, ceding possession and hitting the opponent. the majority of the times SAF team play high pressing game is usually against the canon fodders. against the top teams fergie is conservative. mourinhos tactics needs runners and fighters added with ruthless finishers to excel. players like Martial who sulks easily, Pogba who is petulant like a girl and error prone Lindeloff and Smalling are not mourinho kind of players, he is just using them because there are few options.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:10pm On Mar 07, 2018
elrony:
My main observation is that our players are lazy during pressing, except Lingard and Herrera!

If 80% of them can give the kind of energy those 2 give repeatedly, then I woulda comfortably be blaming oga Mou 100%.
quote author=elrony post=65636625]My main observation is that our players are lazy during pressing, except Lingard and Herrera!

If 80% of them can give the kind of energy those 2 give repeatedly, then I woulda comfortably be blaming oga Mou 100%.[/quote]

you know I made mention of Lingards contribution to the team, but it was not well highlighted. during the last game, he was taken back to deputise for Valencia, at wing back, he took it gracefully and caused their defence a lot of trouble. the young man has been used at RWF, LWF, AM and SS all these season, in each instance, he keeps his head down to perform for the team. That's playing for the badge not for yourself. I remember Rooney being juncketed across the attack and even in central midfield during fergie days, in all those times, you won't even notice he is playing out of position, he still plays his heart out. That's why till tommorow my love for the guy is everlasting. Most of our players now are whinners and sulkers, play them in a position where bodies are need, they will immediately become moody and begin to ask for a transfer, just like Mkhi. I once rem ember the day we trail West ham by 2 nil at half-time, Fergie moved pa Giggs to left back to initiate attack from there, he did well. it surprises me when fans call out the managers for daring to use a player out of his "comfort zone". Sorry if as a forward you can't play everywhere across the attack, then you are limited. Pogba will not make fergie's first 11 TBH, despite his talent for example
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:03pm On Mar 07, 2018
CapitalCee:


I will keep saying this. even SAF played counter attacking football against the likes of arsenal, ceding possession and hitting the opponent. the majority of the times SAF team play high pressing game is usually against the canon fodders. against the top teams fergie is conservative. mourinhos tactics needs runners and fighters added with ruthless finishers to excel. players like Martial who sulks easily, Pogba who is petulant like a girl and error prone Lindeloff and Smalling are not mourinho kind of players, he is just using them because there are few options.
What about how Fergie played against the smaller teams? We not talking about a one off but week in week out even with technically limited players.

Who bought Lindeloff? Smalling that we love to criticize was nominated for player of the month last month, I wonder who was bribed.

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