Na wa o, I don miss this thread ooo
I greet all Ye Better People. Feels good to be rid of construction headaches for the time being, but sometimes you just miss all the brainstorming and research and planning and designing and shiii. God knows I dont miss the Debit Notifications tho

iphenon:
per month, for now till I stop working

500k per month ?? on freelancing ? Is your freelancing programming or I.T related ?

iphenon:
Hello, I need advice from Real Estate agents in the house.

For the past few months I've been able to save up to 1.6million naira from my freelance business and I'm still working.
When I told my Parents about the money and how I was thinking of the best way to invest it, they advised me to buy a land. We got a land (100x100ft) at a very good location and already on the verge of paying for it (1.4m)

Now here's my worry. The thought of building a house at this point frightens me. I want to make plans for four units of 3bedroom flat, but I have no idea of how much it would cost me (location: Benin).

My plan is to save like 2m then start building, and take things little by little. Is this a wise decision?

Like most people advised, get the Land first and secure it appropriately. Be 101% sure of the title documentation and genuity before you commit your money. its a good thing you're thinking of a property and not a car like most of your peers would be.
I dnt know about building at 24, especially if you don't have enough money to hire a professional to do this. You might want to give yourself some time to learn more about building and evolution of building design, no pressure. cos a few more years and a few more zeroes down the line you might come to discover that your taste has changed drastically. Personal opinion

allCopacetic:



Overall, there are NO REAL benefits obtainable from the choice of Half conduit over Full conduit.

Technically, the only advantage that half conduit can truly provide, is a shorter installation time. (Which doesn't really count if two or three days don't make a world of difference to you). Half conduiting is faster for both piping and cabling stages. In the piping stage you save time by avoiding the ceiling piping altogether, while during the wiring stage , you  do less cable fishing  and more cable “flying”

The savings assumed to be gotten from eliminating the ceiling piping is only superficial, because in the end it is lost to the extra cost of using a more expensive wire type (pvc insulated/pvc sheated)  and sometimes greater wire quanitity.

The correct wire type for a half conduit installation is the multi-core flat cable (pvc insulated/pvc sheated) which is also called  “surface wire”. The pvc sheathing on surface wires exist as protection over the pvc insulation, which is what makes them safer for use in open air. It is very dangerous to use single core wires (pvc insulated) and leave them exposed in roofing spaces.

with regards to increased wire quantity, that scenario will occur during the looping of sockets "IF" you have a half conduit installation where there is no ground piping. Sockets are mounted at a height of about 450mm above finished floor level, so to loop two sockets in the same or different rooms together , the wires will have to go all the way up to the ceiling, then across the room, and then down to the socket. As opposed to ground path (going down to the floor, then across the room, then up to the socket .) which is shorter, since the sockets are closer to the ground than they are to the ceiling.

So, If for a standard three bedroom flat, the difference in the pipe requirement between these two systems  is about a bundle, (Which costs between N2,500 and N7,500 depending on the quality and size you buy). It means  you are risking the numerous disadvantages of the half conduit system in an attempt to save less than N10,000 (which of course will not be possible if you factor the extra cost you will incure via the more expensive cable type and possibly greater cable length).

In a nutshell, Half Conduit is economically and functionally unfavourable.

 

-Cable description in the screenshot

-Cable image in the picture

Very precise, touche

Idealer:
What will be the challenges of this catliver in Nigeria?

LOL, na wa o. you people make it look like our beloved Nigeria is exceptionally different. I dont think the laws of physics apply any differently over there. As with any other part of the world, challenge will be a poor design or execution.

You know I could ask the same exact question about some States in the US and I will be given challenges like (1) Raw material (2) cost etc because every where is unique. No one would have taken it as condescending. And no one would have classified
me as "you people"

Commonsense101:

LOL, na wa o. you people make it look like our beloved Nigeria is exceptionally different. I dont think the laws of physics apply any differently over there. As with any other part of the world, challenge will be a poor design or execution.

Folks, I have been trying to pull out the thread where pillar or no pillar is needed for a bungalow. Am referring to the one at the edges/ middle of the building not the extended one attached to the lintel and protruded for fancy designs. Do we really need it? I tried to check abdulwastex Suleja project to be sure.

Oya my ogas!

@Abdul
@segzy
@spyder
@Egunbaba
@Hajji

folmus:
Folks, I have been trying to pull out the thread where pillar or no pillar is needed for a bungalow. Am referring to the one at the edges/ middle of the building not the extended one attached to the lintel and protruded for fancy designs. Do we really need it? I tried to check abdulwastex Suleja project to be sure.

Oya my ogas!

@Abdul
@segzy
@spyder
@Egunbaba
@Hajji

Pillar is good for bungalow, it adds to the stability, but it is not compulsory. But if your bungalow is a large one like that of egunmogaji, covering large area, it is advisable u use columns.
The idea of using pillars for bungalows was born out due to the nature of our blocks, where u have a bag producing 70blocks. If u have considerable strong blocks, u can build your bungalow with blocks. Except u intend doing a parapet.

ceelog:
Engr's and Builders
Please is it wrong to cast a pillar (or column) seperately from the lintel or roof beam? I think I see this being done with the frame structure build and not block build? In other words is it a must to cast column and lintel at the same time in a non frame build?

Were the columns not already casted from foundation to probably dpc or after dpc?

Rubbiish:

Pillar is good for bungalow, it adds to the stability, but it is not compulsory. But if your bungalow is a large one like that of egunmogaji, covering large area, it is advisable u use columns.
The idea of using pillars for bungalows was born out due to the nature of our blocks, where u have a bag producing 70blocks. If u have considerable strong blocks, u can build your bungalow with blocks. Except u intend doing a parapet.

Thank you. No parapet, moulding my blocks @ a bag/35 for a 4 units of miniflats.

Good day great minds. I just bought a piece of land around Kpaduma area of Guzape. What steps do i now take to get the necessary documents? Thanks all for your anticipated assistance

folmus:


Thank you. No parapet, moulding my blocks @ a bag/35 for a 4 units of miniflats.

Okay sir
Solid or hollow blocks?

krak101:
Good day great minds. I just bought a piece of land around Kpaduma area of Guzape. What steps do i now take to get the necessary documents? Thanks all for your anticipated assistance

Surveying your land should be the next step sir

Rubbiish:

Okay sir
Solid or hollow blocks?

Hollow.

ceelog:
Engr's and Builders
Please is it wrong to cast a pillar (or column) seperately from the lintel or roof beam? I think I see this being done with the frame structure build and not block build? In other words is it a must to cast column and lintel at the same time in a non frame build?

The best practice is to cast the column (vertical structural member) separately, and then cast the lintel and head course separately( horizontal member), this will allow each of them to be properly vibrated and all voids removed.

It is not a must to cast column and lintel at the same time, it is better to cast them separately than to cast them together

krak101:
Good day great minds. I just bought a piece of land around Kpaduma area of Guzape. What steps do i now take to get the necessary documents? Thanks all for your anticipated assistance

I think you need to go to developmental control to get all the needed information.

Sir,

Can you please assist in costing the materials needed and labour cost for casting a column of 225 by 225mm from foundation (3) to roof level (12) = 15 courses.?

Thanks.

abdulwastecx:


The best practice is to cast the column (vertical structural member) separately, and then cast the lintel and head course separately( horizontal member), this will allow each of them to be properly vibrated and all voids removed.

It is not a must to cast column and lintel at the same time, it is better to cast them separately than to cast them together

OtunbaLeXuS:
Sir,

Can you please assist in costing the materials needed and labour cost for casting a column of 225 by 225mm from foundation (3) to roof level (12) = 15 courses.?

Thanks.

1. 2 bags of cement. some sand. some gravel. 4 number of 1 x 12 soft timber. 1 bar of main reinforcement ( Y12 bar for a bungalow), 1 bar of Y10 or Y8 for the ring.

Labor cost: carpenter 3k, mason 3k, iron bender 3k

Thank you.

abdulwastecx:


1. 2 bags of cement. some sand. some gravel. 4 number of 1 x 12 soft timber. 1 bar of main reinforcement ( Y12 bar for a bungalow), 1 bar of Y10 or Y8 for the ring.

Labor cost: carpenter 3k, mason 3k, iron bender 3k

folmus:
Folks, I have been trying to pull out the thread where pillar or no pillar is needed for a bungalow. Am referring to the one at the edges/ middle of the building not the extended one attached to the lintel and protruded for fancy designs. Do we really need it? I tried to check abdulwastex Suleja project to be sure.

Oya my ogas!

@Abdul
@segzy
@spyder
@Egunbaba
@Hajji

Based on my research on best practices, not building a frame structure doesn’t make sense to me.

Hello House,
Good afternoon and happy Sunday to everybody.
Please can someone help me with contact details of a[b] tested and trusted[/b] Carport specialist?
Location of the site is Igbogbo - Ikorodu (I suppose this could affect transport/Production cost).
Looking forward to getting all the suggestions and help i need.

Rubbiish:

Were the columns not already casted from foundation to probably dpc or after dpc?

The question was for the upper floor. Sorry I didnt mention it earlier. I see people insisting the pillar and lintel must be done together.

abdulwastecx:


The best practice is to cast the column (vertical structural member) separately, and then cast the lintel and head course separately( horizontal member), this will allow each of them to be properly vibrated and all voids removed.

It is not a must to cast column and lintel at the same time, it is better to cast them separately than to cast them together

Thanks and God bless you Sir. #Understood

ceelog:

The question was for the upper floor. Sorry I didnt mention it earlier. I see people insisting the pillar and lintel must be done together.

It is not compulsory it must be done together sir.
If not for our sub standard practice of block making, it is not compulsory lintel must be chain.

folmus:

Hollow.

6 inches i guess? Why not go for solid sir?

Rubbiish:

6 inches i guess?
Why not go for solid sir?

9 for foundation and 6 post foundation. I think that solid is peculiar to East o. I haven't seen it in the West.

folmus:


9 for foundation and 6 post foundation. I think that solid is peculiar to East o. I haven't seen it in the West.

Combination of 9 & 6 inches is cool.
But i prefer 6 inches solid to hollow for bungalows, if one is using 6inches from foundation.

folmus:


9 for foundation and 6 post foundation. I think that solid is peculiar to East o. I haven't seen it in the West.

I wouldn’t mind using 6” for foundation but it’ll be filled.

folmus:
Folks, I have been trying to pull out the thread where pillar or no pillar is needed for a bungalow. Am referring to the one at the edges/ middle of the building not the extended one attached to the lintel and protruded for fancy designs. Do we really need it? I tried to check abdulwastex Suleja project to be sure.

Oya my ogas!

@Abdul
@segzy
@spyder
@Egunbaba
@Hajji

Columns are needed to bear the weight of other addition that you might decide to load on the building. Some roof types like the stone coated tiles with very high pitch and roof mounted tanks for water could be of substantial weight.

Rubbiish:

Pillar is good for bungalow, it adds to the stability, but it is not compulsory. But if your bungalow is a large one like that of egunmogaji, covering large area, it is advisable u use columns.
The idea of using pillars for bungalows was born out due to the nature of our blocks, where u have a bag producing 70blocks. If u have considerable strong blocks, u can build your bungalow with blocks. Except u intend doing a parapet.

70 blocks per bag of cement......who does that and at what profit.......can that block be moved any distance?

bixton:


70 blocks per bag of cement......who does that and at what profit.......can that block be moved any distance?

You will be surprised when you see what people really do. The bigger surprise is that someone can mold 30 per bag and still end up with same strength of block!

spyder880:


You will be surprised when you see what people really do. The bigger surprise is that someone can mold 30 per bag and still end up with same strength of block!

Well i'm really surprised. I'd love to know the kind of sand and mixture used.
Maybe I can experiment.