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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:00pm On Mar 17, 2018
jihday:
then shame suppose dey catch Ronaldo because he started top flight football ahead of Messi. some people like to dey yarn pete for here sha


So, for your mind, Ronaldo is lesser than Messi, ba? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:02pm On Mar 17, 2018
tbaba1234:


I feel Balogun at his sharpest is our best defender but we need to get him to his best form.

All our defenders can make mistakes, Ekong is not the best passer, Balogun is slow, Awaziem is good but inexperienced, Omeruo has his unsure moments.. There is a reason why Rohr is looking for reinforcements.

That said, We have shown improved organization since Rohr took over. The performances against Cameroon, home and away were outstanding
Really none of them is without faults. Ekong is one guy whom with pressing can easily give the ball away in dangerous areas but what I like about him is that he never looks fazed. He is a very confident guy.

It was in the match against Argentina that I appreciated how organised we were defensively but then enano (the dwarf) can throw any defense into disarray. Hopefully we should have done the job before we meet Argentina sha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:02pm On Mar 17, 2018
safarigirl:
sorry o, is it Firmino you guys are calling Firnamo here? undecided


Na Firmino. Thanks
.
Auto correct go still call am Firnamo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 11:04pm On Mar 17, 2018
Odunayaw:
while not interested in long story...the likes of European teams(LA liga,bundesliga) that concede** 6,7s week in and out have incompetent coaches too yes?
*smiles* yes we do have such scenarios pan out every weeks across the world.

But, if you check my post, I used phrases like 'football knowledge', 'must you concede much' just to buttress my point.

Last year or so, we saw one of football greatest comebacks. Barcelona overturning a huge deficit, scoring 6 past PSG at home to ensure their progress to the next stage of CL. Do you know who was mocked/blamed? It was PSG's coach. Do you know why? Because he wasn't smart enough.

Everyone knows that it's always tough playing against the north africans most especially at their home. A draw against them is even seen as a good result.

A smart coach who is going away with an advantage will set up his team in a more defensive and compact way to minimize any form of damage the north africans can cause.

What are we even saying sef. 6-0 is too much. No wonder their coach said 'he does not know MFM FC' when interviewed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:10pm On Mar 17, 2018
Sainty92:
Bros football no be by seniority o. If not na papa Peter crouch suppose dey carry highest goal scorer every year where small boys like harry Kane dey. For now Nacho is better than Tammy wen u consider playing minutes attained recently plus recent goals and assists. They are both young lads and they have time on their side in achieving greatness more than the other. For now, I go with Nacho.





















Of course, I know Iheanacho is better than Tammy currently but statistically speaking, Tammy Abraham is ahead for now this season. That's it.


Please, take note that Abraham scored goals last month with an assist this month.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:12pm On Mar 17, 2018
Mujtahida:

For now I don't trust Balogun

Balogun carried his poor run of games from the last 2 or 3 WC qualifiers into that Argentina game.

After the Algeria game I started raising questions about Balogun's dwindling form but Tbaba1234 and some others said Balogun should not be criticized.

Kenneth Omeruo came in for Balogun in the second half of the Argentina friendly and combined almost seamlessly well with Ekong and Awaziem. Nobody made a remark about that value added substitution.
Omeruo brought stability to that backline. But no accolades for the lad. Why because it is Kenneth Omeruo, a player that is not on the good books of many here.

If Balogun continues with the kind of shambolic displays as he had in his last 3 games....well I trust Rohr to do the needful.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:26pm On Mar 17, 2018
Icon4s:


Balogun carried his poor run of games from the last 2 or 3 WC qualifiers into that Argentina game.

After the Algeria game I started raising questions about Balogun's dwindling form but Tbaba1234 and some others said Balogun should not be criticized.

Kenneth Omeruo came in for Balogun in the second half of the Argentina friendly and combined almost seamlessly well with Ekong and Awaziem. Nobody made a remark about that value added substitution.
Omeruo brought stability to that backline. But no accolades for the lad. Why because it is Kenneth Omeruo, a player that is not on the good books of many here.

If Balogun continues with the kind of shambolic displays as he had in his last 3 games....well I trust Rohr to do the needful.


Balogun had very strong displays before his apparent fall in form. The drop in fall coincided with less playing time at club level. His club appearances have improved now. In the games, where he was poor, he improved as the games progressed..

Against Argentina, Balogun had already improved his performance before he was removed. Infact, the Nigerian defence had improved a lot in the second half. Omeruo did very well, when he came on but it was not as if he stabilized the defence. The defence was not really under much pressure in that second half.

Anyway, let us see their performances in the friendlies first..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:44pm On Mar 17, 2018
tbaba1234:


Balogun had very strong displays before his apparent fall in form. The drop in fall coincided with less playing time at club level. His club appearances have improved now. In the games, where he was poor, he improved as the games progressed..

Against Argentina, Balogun had already improved his performance before he was removed. Infact, the Nigerian defence had improved a lot in the second half. Omeruo did very well, when he came on but it was not as if he stabilized the defence. The defence was not really under much pressure in that second half.

Anyway, let us see their performances in the friendlies first..


Bros, if it was another player that had the Balogun kind of display in those games, I don't think we will be saying the same story we are saying now.I know what I am talking about

No player should be above criticism. I didn't just want to carry on with that argument that day. And Lo it repeated itself against Argentina.

We cannot be having a player at the heart of the defence with a shaky start. We can find ourselves 3goals down within those 20-30mins of shakiness

I say again, if he gives out another shaky start in his next game, Rohr should please do the needful. We already have the headache of going to the WC with below par goalkeepers and then on top of it we will have one central defender with a shaky start. That can be suicidal!

You are only as good as your last game. In his last 3games he had shambolic first 30mins. We cannot afford that in the WC.

He has the next couple of friendlies to correct those previous poor run of games. Else..... hmmm

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:58pm On Mar 17, 2018
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Bros, if it was another player that had the Balogun kind of display in those games, I don't think we will be saying the same story we are saying now.I know what I am talking about

No player should be above criticism. I didn't just want to carry on with that argument that day. And Lo it repeated itself against Argentina.

We cannot be having a player at the heart of the defence with a shaky start. We can find ourselves 3goals down within those 20-30mins of shakiness

I say again, if he gives out another shaky start in his next game, Rohr should please do the needful. We already have the headache of going to the WC with below par goalkeepers and then on top of it we will have one central defender with a shaky start. That can be suicidal!

You are only as good as your last game. In his last 3games he had shambolic first 30mins. We cannot afford that in the WC.

He has the next couple of friendlies to correct those previous poor run of games. Else..... hmmm

You are correct but in a sense, it is like when Enyeama makes a mistake, it is easy to make excuses because of his good games.

But i agree, if he does not show marked improvements in the friendlies, he should be benched at the WC..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:37am On Mar 18, 2018
Is Dessers having a problem with his coach or what, that lad keeps scoring any chance he gets but yet he's always confined to the bench every other match day.

He came on for his team at the 84th minute and scored in the 88th minute to get a point for his team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:00am On Mar 18, 2018
This MFM keeper is a basket.. really poor... See highlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REO8XzA9J3E
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:39am On Mar 18, 2018
On improving the League...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 4:39am On Mar 18, 2018
somehow:
The last time Omeruo played for us, did he perform badly?
Balogun's last match for us was a shamble, how about that?
Omeruo has only been average at best. Balogun has posted several outstanding performances in the Eagles shirt under Rohr. True or false?...

That's the issue... Imagine being loaned out five times by Chelsea.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 4:43am On Mar 18, 2018
forgiveness:


So, for your mind, Ronaldo is lesser than Messi, ba? grin
Yes of course
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:53am On Mar 18, 2018
FALSE

1. They expect they would beat the competition.
And truly, it can go either way. Nigeria is not a weak football nation.

2. Nigerian authorities are likely the ones given them that impression especially with manner they are being courted. But yet again, NFF is not the coach. Rohr will not give anyone automatic slot going by his past utterances. Depending on when the final 23 will be named I expect anyone who will make that least to have at least played in one of the friendlies.

Curtisaxel7:
My problem with foreign borns is that they tend to expect automatic shirts

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 4:57am On Mar 18, 2018
Icon4s:


Balogun carried his poor run of games from the last 2 or 3 WC qualifiers into that Argentina game.

After the Algeria game I started raising questions about Balogun's dwindling form but Tbaba1234 and some others said Balogun should not be criticized.

Kenneth Omeruo came in for Balogun in the second half of the Argentina friendly and combined almost seamlessly well with Ekong and Awaziem. Nobody made a remark about that value added substitution.
Omeruo brought stability to that backline. But no accolades for the lad. Why because it is Kenneth Omeruo, a player that is not on the good books of many here.

If Balogun continues with the kind of shambolic displays as he had in his last 3 games....well I trust Rohr to do the needful.

Omeruo needs to be consistent to be able to convince Rohr and Nigerians that he has improved (or he's back to his game). Just one good performance doesn't spring you up the perking order after so many dismal performances in a team where you have lost the coaches and the Fans' trust and attracting question marks about your quality as a player.


Balogun isn't really doing well for Eaglesin the last few games but he earned his loyalty and patience form the coach and we the fans with consistent and very impressive performances.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:51am On Mar 18, 2018
Uche Agbo won the Belgian cup with Standard Liege

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:19am On Mar 18, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Omeruo needs to be consistent to be able to convince Rohr and Nigerians that he has improved (or he's back to his game). Just one good performance doesn't spring you up the perking order after so many dismal performances in a team where you have lost the coaches and the Fans' trust and attracting question marks about your quality as a player.


Balogun isn't really doing well for Eaglesin the last few games but he earned his loyalty and patience form the coach and we the fans with consistent and very impressive performances.

Aside the game against South Africa in 2014 and the mis-skewed header against Zambia in Ndola which are years apart tell which other game he had a dismal performance for the SE.

I know Balogun's past performances have been speaking for him but what of Omeruo's past performances? We're they not good enough to speak for him?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:22am On Mar 18, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
Omeruo has only been average at best. Balogun has posted several outstanding performances in the Eagles shirt under Rohr. True or false?...

That's the issue... Imagine being loaned out five times by Chelsea.

Did you ever see Omeruo at the 2013 AFCON and 2014 WC?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:32am On Mar 18, 2018
tbaba1234:
This MFM keeper is a basket.. really poor... See highlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REO8XzA9J3E

Kick-off for that game was 8:45pm. It was played under freezing cold conditions and under flood lights. Two major factors that normally work against teams from the sub-Saharan Africa. Immediately I saw that kickoff time, I knew what will follow is a humiliating defeat.

Meanwhile Plateau United have moved their own game to 2pm. Hahahaha. Dem won take the Kano heat finish those Tunisians. Taking the weather as an advantage. I hope it works for them sha.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:07am On Mar 18, 2018
AIG07:
this kind of result only makes one question the football knowledge of our local coaches.

If you must concede, must you concede this much? Poor tactics/strategy.

No wonder most European clubs will always want npfl players to go on trial before signing them
I thought Liverpool beat Porto 6 nil meaning Porto coach lacks football knowledge in tactics and strategy.

Not defending local coach,really they need to improve but sometimes heavy defeat happen in football not that coach is worse.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:10am On Mar 18, 2018
tbaba1234:
This MFM keeper is a basket.. really poor... See highlights


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REO8XzA9J3E
Pls do not exonerate his defenders cos when keeper is expose he concedes goals though the keeper should have done better.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:13am On Mar 18, 2018
Icon4s:


Kick-off for that game was 8:45pm. It was played under freezing cold conditions and under flood lights. Two major factors that normally work against teams from the sub-Saharan Africa. Immediately I saw that kickoff time, I knew what will follow is a humiliating defeat.

Meanwhile Plateau United have moved their own game to 2pm. Hahahaha. Dem won take the Kano heat finish those Tunisians. Taking the weather as an advantage. I hope it works for them sha.
Hope Plateau United can turn things around but putting hope on Nigeria club side get as ebi o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:18am On Mar 18, 2018
Icon4s:


Balogun carried his poor run of games from the last 2 or 3 WC qualifiers into that Argentina game.

After the Algeria game I started raising questions about Balogun's dwindling form but Tbaba1234 and some others said Balogun should not be criticized.

Kenneth Omeruo came in for Balogun in the second half of the Argentina friendly and combined almost seamlessly well with Ekong and Awaziem. Nobody made a remark about that value added substitution.
Omeruo brought stability to that backline. But no accolades for the lad. Why because it is Kenneth Omeruo, a player that is not on the good books of many here.

If Balogun continues with the kind of shambolic displays as he had in his last 3 games....well I trust Rohr to do the needful.

You have spoken my mind. Apart from being poor he tends to be jittery. He himself said so much in an interview I watched about his performance in the first half against Zambia. If you recall in our match at home to cameroun he took him some time before he stabilised. Meanwhile Ekong gets into stride from the blast of the whistle. Ekong makes mistakes but he is always confident. Please watch our match with Argentina again, watch Balogun's movement you will find that the confidence wasn't there. Sometimes I don't mind mistakes but just be confident.

Like you noted Omeruo came in and solidified the defence. Me I'm always switching ooo from player to player based on performance. I am faithful to quality and performance not to any player per se. For now I trust Omeruo than Balogun. Yet it is that same Omeruo many here are touting should give way for young inexperienced German born players. Omeruo is not just experienced. He has also been playing regularly for his club unlike Echiejile. There's no experienced quality in our backline oooo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 7:27am On Mar 18, 2018
Mujtahida:

Abi ooo komekn. Your brother forgiveness approves of giving them automatic slot. What say you to giving the German born players automatic slots?
they are German born.. What do you expect oga to say.... U eh..... U like wahala .... Lolz grin
Mujtahida:

Abi ooo komekn. Your brother forgiveness approves of giving them automatic slot. What say you to giving the German born players automatic slots?
they are German born.. What do you expect oga to say.... U eh..... U like wahala .... Lolz...... [pun intended]
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:28am On Mar 18, 2018
The
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Bros, if it was another player that had the Balogun kind of display in those games, I don't think we will be saying the same story we are saying now.I know what I am talking about

No player should be above criticism. I didn't just want to carry on with that argument that day. And Lo it repeated itself against Argentina.

We cannot be having a player at the heart of the defence with a shaky start. We can find ourselves 3goals down within those 20-30mins of shakiness

I say again, if he gives out another shaky start in his next game, Rohr should please do the needful. We already have the headache of going to the WC with below par goalkeepers and then on top of it we will have one central defender with a shaky start. That can be suicidal!

You are only as good as your last game. In his last 3games he had shambolic first 30mins. We cannot afford that in the WC.

He has the next couple of friendlies to correct those previous poor run of games. Else..... hmmm
The shaky start is the main problem. We are here talking meanwhile other teams are ruthlessly and rigorously studying each of our players to the minutest, microscopic levels. Our defence might just not be as strong as we think ooo. It takes just one match and the softspots in our defence might be exposed.

For now Omeruo is better than Balogun. Since Balogun takes time to warm into a match let him be coming from the bench. No sentiments abeg. We know Omeruo, Ekong and Awaziem have faults but they are sharp and sprightly from the blast of the whistle. Meanwhile Balogun be booting like old desktop (forgive me, just couldn't resist saying that)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:31am On Mar 18, 2018
tbaba1234:
On improving the League...
His suggestions are some of the things Germany did especially the idea of building pitches in every neighbourhood as detailed in the book Das Reboot
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:33am On Mar 18, 2018
eterisan:
they are German born.. What do you expect oga to say.... U eh..... U like wahala .... Lolz grin they are German born.. What do you expect oga to say.... U eh..... U like wahala .... Lolz...... [pun intended]
If we are to be realistic those guys should be in our post WC plans
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 7:34am On Mar 18, 2018
Mujtahida:

If we are to be realistic those guys should be in our post WC plans
it is a good move, my only fear is these German guys should not do a boateng..... On us..... Appear at the world cup and give us the middle finger after.

Besides I feel he is been called with an eye on replacing Balogun if not now then post world cup as you said..... Make him pick d call first.. Rohr is just securing the future of our eagles team.... I can only say good job.... Well done
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 7:35am On Mar 18, 2018
Mujtahida:

You have spoken my mind. Apart from being poor he tends to be jittery. He himself said so much in an interview I watched about his performance in the first half against Zambia. If you recall in our match at home to cameroun he took him some time before he stabilised. Meanwhile Ekong gets into stride from the blast of the whistle. Ekong makes mistakes but he is always confident. Please watch our match with Argentina again, watch Balogun's movement you will find that the confidence wasn'tfootball Sometimes I don't mind mistakes but just be confident.

Like you noted Omeruo came in and solidified the defence. Me I'm always switching ooo from player to player based on performance. I am faithful to quality and performance not to any player per se. For now I trust Omeruo than Balogun. Yet it is that same Omeruo many here are touting should give way for young inexperienced German born players. Omeruo is not just experienced. He has also been playing regularly for his club unlike Echiejile. There's no experienced quality in our backline oooo.
Yes you are spot on on Balogun but i believe a fit Balogun is a better choice and also Omeruo i knew should be in 23 man squad cos in 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 Omeruo is better than Awaziem but in 3-5-2 I will go for Awaziem.

Good to for us that we have options for our different formations and hope to see a very fit defenders at WC.

Oh Echiejele only sentiments will take him to WC,nothing more cos no short cut to performance in football cos we have been saying it that he has lost his form but some argued it but what are we seen now with his club performance, poor form.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:37am On Mar 18, 2018
Icon4s:


Did you ever see Omeruo at the 2013 AFCON and 2014 WC?
Since Rohr came Omeruo has played just one full match so where did jigsaw get the fact to conclude that he's be average in the Gwg?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 7:41am On Mar 18, 2018
Mujtahida:
The
The shaky start is the main problem. We are here talking meanwhile other teams are ruthlessly and rigorously studying each of our players to the minutest, microscopic levels. Our defence might just not be as strong as we think ooo. It takes just one match and the softspots in our defence might be exposed.

For now Omeruo is better than Balogun. Since Balogun takes time to warm into a match let him be coming from the bench. No sentiments abeg. We know Omeruo, Ekong and Awaziem have faults but they are sharp and sprightly from the blast of the whistle. Meanwhile Balogun be booting like old desktop (forgive me, just couldn't resist saying that)
Abeg which Omeruo, the one who's bound to always make one costly mistake every match that will always results to a goal. Balogun might be slow, but he reads the game very well. I love his brutal nature, an attribute of a leader that can lead from the back.

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