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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:10pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Will Nigeria also be taking action in line with what's happened in Israel? Israeli shipyard suspected of bribery in Nigerian warship deal More here: http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51144:israeli-shipyard-suspected-of-bribery-in-nigerian-warship-deal&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:11pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
NN flags off Obangame express 2018
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:11pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:11pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:18pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
jakeporeshenko: France and Senegal. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:37pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
jakeporeshenko: What's the objective of the Obangame exercises, from a West African perspective? I ask only because the professed objective from the Western partners has remained the same all these years. With that in mind, what's the intent and objectives of the individual West African Navies who partake? Specifically, the different navies in the region are developmentally and capability-scaled than each other, so what observable benefit can they derive from an exercise whose parameters and scenarios - from the western naval planning perspective - remain the same? Or is it a case where the more advanced West African nations send their less-experienced personnel to get up-skilled? 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 6:08pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Frumentum:It’s mostly about policing west African waters, fight against piracy, illegal fishing and other illegalities. I don’t think it has any strategic goal. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 6:41pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Frumentum:WA navies have been able to standardize response to piracy,illegal fishing(to an extent) etc. Furthermore the exercise has really removed some distrust between the participants (this my perspective as a Nigerian) |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 6:51pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
jakeporeshenko: Yes I'm aware of that. But the point is this: what do the West African navies aim to get out of it? Planning is always by Africacom and NATO with unchanging scenarios - reflecting their interests and outlook - so at what point are the West African Navies put in charge of planning and start determining scenarios and assets? Real training among equals, not one party coming to conduct pupillage. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:02pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Odunayaw: I hear you. Your Western partners have not changed the parameters of the exercise since inception. So what does that say? As a planner, an annual exercise is only working if it gets more complex. Obangame in its planning, scenarios and execution has always been the same. This is not some jingoistic posturing, I have the same critique of the sister exercise Africom/some NATO countries pursue in East Africa. And BTW, we send observors to both. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by newafricaken254: 7:24pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
kenya army Alpha Combat Team, 3 Mechanised Infantry Battalion in Afmadhow,somalia held a friendly football match with a local youth club
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:36pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Frumentum:No Frum if you don’t know just ask, planning begins when they arrive our waters, why do you think I they dock for about a week before the actual exercise commences. “Command post training and coordination for #obangameexpress is underway in preparation for next week's at-sea maritime security scenarios. #Ghana (U.S. Navy photos by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Theron J. Godbold/Released)”
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:38pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Frumentum:It’s not homework, they don’t come here with a to-do list for our navies. “Off to a planning exercise meeting with @RoyalNavy @USCG & Nigerian Navy for upcoming joint exercises in Lagos, Nigeria. #OpPROJECTION West #Africa”
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:52pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
jakeporeshenko: That's not when planning starts!!! I've liaised with Canadian, French, Ghanaian, Nigerian, UK and US planners on Obangame through the years. I do this for a living and it's been enhanced the last few years the SANDF has had observers on the exercise. Ordinarily I'd say let's agree to disagree. But you're just plain wrong. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:12pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Frumentum:Obviously they make plans before they leave their country and sail towards the Gulf of Guinea, but plans are finalized here no ? I mean the actual content of the exercise. Anyways like you said it’s your occupation so no need to argue with you, the exercise doesn’t have any strategic impact or goal, every year it’s the same same visit board search and seizure and firefighting. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:18pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Appreciation post, my favorite Nigerian defense correspondent. Brenda Uji 2 Likes
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 8:44pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
dyydxx: http://www.akelicious.net/2018/03/dapchi-dss-reveals-condition-boko-haram.html |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:45pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Odunayaw:Agbada wearing scoundrels Knowing the self centered nature of our political class, nothing would be done about the gaps in our military (ability to wage conventional war against another state) Unless it affects them directly and threatens their credibility/popularity, unfortunately there’s only one such situation... |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:56pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
jakeporeshenko: I'll give you examples: 1) Exercise IBSAMAR is a maritime exercise by India, Brazil and South Africa which has been held every 2 years off the South Africa coast since 2008 (last one was held in India after their International Fleet Review to save funds as all 3 navies were there).It involves Navy, Air Force and Special Forces from all 3 countries. Because SA is the host, 9 months is dedicated by the SANDF to its planning. 6 months of that is just desk-top planning involving the 3 militaries. As I type this, the Brazilian and the Indian planners have been in SA for 2 weeks to finalise the last 3 months of planning. 2) Exercise Good Hope is a joint maritime and air force exercise by Germany/NATO and South Africa held every 2 years in SA and Europe since 2004. Because of the complexity, planning in the host country always starts 6 months after the exercise - meaning 18 months of planning. 3) Exercise Oxide is a joint exercise by France and South Africa involving maritime, air force and Special Forces every 2 years in SA and the French territories in the Indian Ocean near to us. Planning for this used to be a simple 6 months but because other countries on the Indian Ocean have sent observers - Madagascar, Mauritius, Seychelles, Mozambique, Tanzania - it's now been pushed out to 9 months. I could go on and on. My point is this: no multi-national exercise will ever take less than 9 months to plan and if planning in the host country is a matter of weeks, they're not planning but simply confirming logistics for plans made elsewhere. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by dyydxx: 9:05pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
rka2: I'm even more confused. So they came to abduct the girls to have standing just to be able to negotiate 'cessation of hostilities'. There are unconfirmed reports the last girl is being brought back now. If the end game is to negotiate a ceasefire why does it have to take an abduction and loss of lives to achieve that? why can't the back channels just request that straightup? This whole thing is absurdly insane. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 9:11pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Exercise Obangame Express 2018 (OE18), which is sponsored by U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM), is designed to improve regional cooperation, maritime domain awareness (MDA), information-sharing practices, and tactical interdiction expertise to enhance the collective capabilities of Gulf of Guinea and West African nations to counter sea-based illicit activity.
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 9:48pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
dyydxx: Terrorism never makes sense. The Al-Barnawi faction is not as brutal as Shekau's, hence the breakaway in the first place. It was probably as a bargaining tool but then probably went against what majority of that faction believe i.e. no abductions or bombing of Mosques and Churches from what I am led to believe. At the end of the day, only they themselves know. We can only speculate. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:44pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
jakeporeshenko: Precisely my point. The Exercise has been the same since inception. So what progress can we say has been made? Sea-borne thieves still put to shore in Douala, transfer their cargo to a littoral vessel off Lagos, and a tanker off Senegal transfers the cargo to the international markets. Without Obangame we can monitor such activities in Silvermine, Cape Town, pass on info to Ghana for example, that they've not received from Nigeria or Cameroun. So what's the point, besides Africom ticking a box so Congress may continue funding them? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Omololu2121: 11:23pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Sizzorkay:how much is borno state contributing to the Federal purse? Nonsense Northerners are parasite |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 11:36pm On Mar 24, 2018 |
Frumentum:Ohhhhh now I get, you should have made this point in your initial post. I thought you were asking a genuine question meanwhile you already knew the answer to it, I guess what you’re trying to say is Africom is a scam ? Or it’s multinational exercises. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 1:03am On Mar 25, 2018 |
[quote author=jakeporeshenko post=66130609] Ohhhhh now I get, you should have made this point in your initial post. I thought you were asking a genuine question meanwhile you already knew the answer to it, I guess what you’re trying to say is Africom is a scam ? Or it’s multinational exercises.[/quot Now you get Exercises and scenarios are my bread and butter. SA govt has taken a political decision to interface directly with the Pentagon and not Africom, for instance. We in the military interface with everybody active on the African continent, including Africom. So my musings about Obangame are based on that interaction. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 1:14am On Mar 25, 2018 |
dyydxx: The villagers have expressed their joy, common sense have solved where the joy is directed to. Other intelligent news sources have confirmed that. Sahara reporters is free to throw around their assumptions, sane people careless. 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 3:21am On Mar 25, 2018 |
[quote author=Frumentum post=66131593][/quote] Heheheh this guy, you didn’t have to take me on that wild goose chase. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 4:48am On Mar 25, 2018 |
That's a pretty sad way of thinking, if you did at all. Omololu2121: |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 5:24am On Mar 25, 2018 |
Sizzorkay:Don't feed the troll. He is looking for attention. Ignore. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 5:34am On Mar 25, 2018 |
jakeporeshenko:Jakeporshenko: Ignore.When it comes to Nigeria Frumentius has all the answers. He believes nothing good can come out of Anything called American / Nigerian collaboration. He has been consistent from day one. Unfortunately for him the Americans don't seem to agree with his narrative. Despite the fact this exercise has been going on now to test the capabilities of Countries that cover almost1/4 the continent of Africa' s marine mass it( The exercise to him) is just ticking boxes. Very soon he will tell us how he ran the entire exercise check the dumb Nigerian barely could get their ships in line. This is the reality: The operation involved 4x Ships from Nigeria. It will test their capabilities with their African counterparts.The usefulness of this was demonstrated when a pirate attack occurred from Angola to Lagos with each Coastal Nation handing off Years ago. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by giles14(m): 6:44am On Mar 25, 2018 |
jakeporeshenko:when was dis pix taken |
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