Mujtahida:

Put Aguero, Saurez, Griezman, Lukaku in that our front line and they will still not score. Where was the supply? I can only call an attacker bad where chances was coming and he failed to convert any.

D law...ighalo is d only striker we av at d moment considering d style/formation of our play.we all knw kc won't thrive very well as a lone striker,dt was y I recommended a back up for ighalo

forgiveness:


Can you explain how one can be nominated for such award without delivering on the pitch?

I think that is being subjective and not objective.

Where was Mikel when we failed to qualify AFCON?
What about Victor Moses?

What did Mikel Obi and Victor Moses brought to the table in the world cup they went?

We went beyond the group stage, the last was in 98 with the olisehs and okochas. Martins and co could not get us beyond group stage

Mujtahida:

Sir Kog45 you are old in this game. Please don't say what you know is not true. Even footballers themselves will tell you they have played many matches not fully fit.
What happened to France in 2002?was Zidane fully fit, what of Beckham? Didn't Keshi play many matches with his niggling knee injuries. Haba, just because you want to make a point you shouldn't deny facts. John Terry played matches for Mourinho when fully fit.

As for Oliseh I have told you what is. You are free to doubt it. Oliseh had malaria, his name was not supposed to be on the list.

I have given you many examples even beyond Oliseh. Players play matches even with less than 100% fitness.

Sir you should know that am not here to win arguments but to talk football.

Did i argued with you that Oliseh wasn't sick but said he was declared fit for the match.

Mujtahida:

You are not paying attention to the essence of this friendly games. You have fixed your eyes on the first eleven and totally forgotten about the bench.

We have our strongest bench already, all the other names we are touting are not better than those on the bench right now.

We just have 3 warm up games left before the world cup starts and you think we have the whole time in the world to still experiment with players we know are not truly better?

Mickael2:



against Poland Joel was one of the better players, way way better than Iheanacho and Shehu, the team was bad. then he was played as an AMF today and of course he didn't give his best because he isn't an AMF

weak excuses

Kog45:
Sir you know me am not here to win arguments but to talk football.

Did argued with you that Oliseh wasn't sick but i said he was declared fit for the match.

Declaration of fitness does not mean a player is fit in actuality or that a player just recovering from injuries and declared fit will play at his optimal level. That's my point. I am not one to give points to a player when he's not merited it. The boy underperformed but you cannot take away his recent fitness issues regardless of the declaration.

Friends, countrymen, Nairalanders....
(Yes its been a while yall read that)

First of all, its a good thing that we lost the match so we dont have false expectations of our boys. To those who wanted the loss, yall got your wishes. To those who didnt want us to lose, well its part of the game.

Correct me folks if I am wrong, but we all knew we didnt have a creative midfielder outside of Mikel for almost 2years now. What exactly was done about it? We started looking for makeshift players to mould into creative midfielders. We knew that Alex Iwobi thrives more in the middle of the park than on the wings, yet we still kept making the same Wenger-ish mistakes. Of course I can understand he adds more attacking threat but the dude's natural forte is the Middle. If he had been encouraged more along this line, its possible we would be having a good midfield- Attack link up.

We also had Azubuike Okechukwu who in my opinion is one of the best creative midfielders we have but simply because he plays for one lowly rated team in turkey, we turned the other way. This dude was instrumental to the Gold we won at U23 Afcon, and the Bronze at the olympics. My assessment of our coach is that he is willing to take the risk of sticking with Mikel Obi as the only natural creative midfielder and hope he doesnt get injured. Pray tell folks, what happens if he gets knocked say in training? Then game plan gets disrupted abi? Then we get to run like headless chickens all over with no clear cut cerebral input geared towards attack. It is now evident to the whole world that without Mikel, our brand of footbal is gra gra and frankly at the world cup, they will exploit that promptly. Unfortunately at this time, it is too late to experiment with any new creative midfielder at this stage because we have to worry about them blending in for the team chemistry.
As someone rightly said, we should just continue with the set of players that got us qualified so as not to look disjointed. And perhaps, hope for the best from that.

My assessment of yesterday's game is that Rohr's game plan for the match was disrupted by the fact that Balogun failed last minute fitness test as well the reported fracture of Kelechi Iheanacho. He resorted to playing musa as a 9 and we got what we got. This tells me that he needs to work on having equally potent replacements for each of the positions.

Talking about Ebuehi and Idowu, i realize they are better suited for attack minded formations. This implies that when we wanna be bullish, Shehu is our man, but whe we wanna attack and keep an all out attack, we need these two boys ( Idowu and Ebuehi) hence the need to really perfect 3-5-2 and really sharpen it , primed for attack!

Our passing needs a lot of work. It is not nice to see us lose possession after 3 passes. Our forwards need to work together in that if a player is in a better positiin to score, then they shd pass to him instead of seeking personal glory (I dont wanna mention names). I dont have a problem with yesterday's team selection. What i have a problem with is the aim or objectives the coach set out to achieve. Was it to sit back and soak up pressure from the Serbs and then hit them on counter? If that was the case, then it was poorly executed


I believe in our team a lot. It just takes right tactics, right personels and executions for us to be able to win. It hurts that we are in the situation we are. I have said this before and I will still say it again, I wouldnt worry about our goal keeping "crises". It is the least of our worries right now. If our team is set up to always keep possession, you will find out that all our goalies will do will just be Goal kicks and routine clearances. In other words, there are things worse than goal keeper problems. Let us get our midfield and attack sharp. End of discussion!


Up Super Eagles

forgiveness:


Joel Obi is not an AMF. Rohr should take note.

just listen to your self, last time you people claimed he was not allow to attack, now he was allow to go forward you claim his not an AM

internet coaches

darkelf:
Just listening to amaju pinnicks interview on brila fm

He said that Ahmed Musa playing for 90mins was one of the high points of the game.

SMH. Someone whose continual invitation is shrouded in mystery.

My elders in the house, who can explain why we keep giving invitations to this guy?

I said it earlier dt d only thing the MYOPIC,BEREFT MUSA DID on d PITCH WAS to collect d ARM BAND FROM ONAZI

Sir Chriskels and I use to mention it on dis thread MUSA FOOTBALL I.Q IS SO LOW.D guy has never impressed me b4 in GWG JERSEY, ASYDE D TWO GOALS he scored against argies,even though we lost.

Dt guy no b am,ko mo anything PLAY RARA,all we will be hearing abt his attribute is PACE AS IF he was on d PITCH TO RUN 100M SENIOR BOYS RACE ,OLODO PLAYER, VERY MYOPIC

Mujtahida:

Declaration of fitness does not mean a player is fit in actuality or that a player just recovering from injuries and declared fit will play at his optimal level. That's my point. I am not one to give points to a player when he's not merited it. The boy underperformed but you cannot take away his recent fitness issues regardless of the declaration.

Too much analysis leads to paralysis bruv

elyte89:
We need to drop one of d DM


We need to shop for an AM in case Mikel gets "onazi" treatment at d world cup


Look for a potent 9,let's try Osimhen,any gud 9 in our league aside Anthony okpotu, or any oda good 9 in Europe


And who says ideye and success can't gate crash,with what d recent wingers are playing,are dey better dan success

We missed Onyekuru yesterday he would have been the perfect sub for V.Moses.

If Rohrs plan yesterday was to test Uzoho I think he got it right.

Mujtahida:

This is what I can not wrap my head around. Why field players whom you know their real game abilities for 90 minutes when you have some players whom we've not fully seen or not seen at all in real game. In that regard I feel like we wasted an opportunity presented to us by this friendlies

If the guys are not convincing enough to the coach, why will he risk them.

Reason why i am wondering the rationale to his invitation. our problem is not DM, it has always been AM, so why did he invite him?

forgiveness:


Your head dey dere.

However, Joel Obi is not an AMF. He played as a CMF and LM and he has shown he is better than John Ogu.

Mickael2:



you seriously think Moses is more talented than Joel? Bar injury, Joel would have been in a top top club playing his favourite position. Moses was a bench warmer until he got drafted into another position

where be the favourite position? goal keeper?... I get am before no be property

somehow:
I thought Rohr would use him as an AM to see what he can offer in the absence of Mikel, we have enough DMs already, why is Rohr rigid na, use the guy as AM and see if he can handle that position.

Rohr just wasted 2 friendlies solving no problem!

The coach already knows his starting 11 for the world cup games, simple

Martz101:


where be the favourite position? goal keeper?... I get am before no be property

Oga leave them. Let them continue to argue about what is not there

I have not seen Nigeria outplayed like that in a long time. Even in the last world cup no team dominated us like Serbia did last night. Real recognize real we just have to give them their credit and get back to the drawing board. Rohr MUST throw the door open in search for a GK. Uzoho is not ready for the big time yet.

Kog45:
Sir no coach used unfit player for a match.

Balogun Leon failed late fitness test and what happened,replaced by Awaziem ASAP.

Ebuehi was fully fit for him to pass fitness test and played 90 minutes,but had average game.

OK Sir,wll you pick Ebuehi as our best RB with his performance against Serbia

People with double standard all over here.

Joel Obi could not play the last match in Seria A during to small fitness problem but he still passed the test and played two friendlies.

Should we not say Joel Obi also came back from injury and exonerate him from blames?


Awariem has flopped twice but they want him in the team. Double standard.

kennysville:
Friends, countrymen, Nairalanders....
(Yes its been a while yall read that)

First of all, its a good thing that we lost the match so we dont have false expectations of our boys. To those who wanted the loss, yall got your wishes. To those who didnt want us to lose, well its part of the game.

Correct me folks if I am wrong, but we all knew we didnt have a creative midfielder outside of Mikel for almost 2years now. What exactly was done about it? We started looking for makeshift players to mould into creative midfielders. We knew that Alex Iwobi thrives more in the middle of the park than on the wings, yet we still kept making the same Wenger-ish mistakes. Of course I can understand he adds more attacking threat but the dude's natural forte is the Middle. If he had been encouraged more along this line, its possible we would be having a good midfield- Attack link up.

We also had Azubuike Okechukwu who in my opinion is one of the best creative midfielders we have but simply because he plays for one lowly rated team in turkey, we turned the other way. This dude was instrumental to the Gold we won at U23 Afcon, and the Bronze at the olympics. My assessment of our coach is that he is willing to take the risk of sticking with Mikel Obi as the only natural creative midfielder and hope he doesnt get injured. Pray tell folks, what happens if he gets knocked say in training? Then game plan gets disrupted abi? Then we get to run like headless chickens all over with no clear cut cerebral input geared towards attack. It is now evident to the whole world that without Mikel, our brand of footbal is gra gra and frankly at the world cup, they will exploit that promptly. Unfortunately at this time, it is too late to experiment with any new creative midfielder at this stage because we have to worry about them blending in for the team chemistry.
As someone rightly said, we should just continue with the set of players that got us qualified so as not to look disjointed. And perhaps, hope for the best from that.

My assessment of yesterday's game is that Rohr's game plan for the match was disrupted by the fact that Balogun failed last minute fitness test as well the reported fracture of Kelechi Iheanacho. He resorted to playing musa as a 9 and we got what we got. This tells me that he needs to work on having equally potent replacements for each of the positions.

Talking about Ebuehi and Idowu, i realize they are better suited for attack minded formations. This implies that when we wanna be bullish, Shehu is our man, but whe we wanna attack and keep an all out attack, we need these two boys ( Idowu and Ebuehi) hence the need to really perfect 3-5-2 and really sharpen it , primed for attack!

Our passing needs a lot of work. It is not nice to see us lose possession after 3 passes. Our forwards need to work together in that if a player is in a better positiin to score, then they shd pass to him instead of seeking personal glory (I dont wanna mention names). I dont have a problem with yesterday's team selection. What i have a problem with is the aim or objectives the coach set out to achieve. Was it to sit back and soak up pressure from the Serbs and then hit them on counter? If that was the case, then it was poorly executed


I believe in our team a lot. It just takes right tactics, right personels and executions for us to be able to win. It hurts that we are in the situation we are. I have said this before and I will still say it again, I wouldnt worry about our goal keeping "crises". It is the least of our worries right now. If our team is set up to always keep possession, you will find out that all our goalies will do will just be Goal kicks and routine clearances. In other words, there are things worse than goal keeper problems. Let us get our midfield and attack sharp. End of discussion!


Up Super Eagles

Well said. Many thanks

So its by ranking now right? selective objectivity? the last match Serbia play, what was the scoreline?

Yes we beat Argentina because we were more determined, yesterday we weren't and Serbia was more determined. one a normal day, lets say at the world cup proper and we are paired with Serbia, if we lose 2:0 just like yesterday, will you go and look for other people that lost to console yourself?

concern yourself with your team and stop looking for attachee in despair.

I can't take assurance as fact until it happens, so your assumption remains what it is. assumption.

safarigirl:
common Serbia abi?

Now, Serbia is common. Please, where is common Serbia in FIFA ranking and where is your uncommon Nigeria? Abi you think you and Serbia are mates because you qualify for World Cup and dem no qualify?



Is it not this same Argentina that we won 4-2? That means, nothing is special about them and we are probably even better than them.


I can assure you, this Nigerian team can never be beaten by 6 goals by any team, not even Germany or Brazil, talk less Spain.

What is Rohr's deal? A blind man can see that Iwobi must always be Mikel's replacement but yet he keeps the boy on the wings and plays god knows who there.

tbaba1234:


Ebuehi is better technically.

We will see the big difference when Mikel returns to the team.

Mikel this...mikel that, he won't play the 11 wings, the time you guys realise a better team can beat you irrespective of who place, the better for us, Mikel might add some advantage but he wont only save us from been beaten.

Mikel is not as influential as Okocha when he was in the team, we still get beaten even at his best

forgiveness:


For your information, Obafemi Martins won continental trophy.

Now, tell me another thing.

Which one? Intertoto cup, that one na trophy?

Martz101:


Mikel this...mikel that, he won't play the 11 wings, the time you guys realise a better team can beat you irrespective of who place, the better for us, Mikel might add some advantage but he wont only save us from been beaten.

Mikel is not as influential as Okocha when he was in the team, we still get beaten even at his best

Abi o,any small thing, na Mikel,I think his presence on d pitch of play will also solve our G.K crises

Martz101:


Mikel this...mikel that, he won't play the 11 wings, the time you guys realise a better team can beat you irrespective of who place, the better for us, Mikel might add some advantage but he wont only save us from been beaten.

Mikel is not as influential as Okocha when he was in the team, we still get beaten even at his best

With okocha Denmark still nack us 4-1 nah

Mujtahida:

Declaration of fitness does not mean a player is fit in actuality or that a player just recovering from injuries and declared fit will play at his optimal level. That's my point. I am not one to give points to a player when he's not merited it. The boy underperformed but you cannot take away his recent fitness issues regardless of the declaration.

Sir did you know what brought up the discussion,Ebuehi is the best RB and i said NO with performance so far i will give it to Shehu but another point he is not fit and i said he had 90 minutes.

Sir why always double standard in analysing our players, some can defend FB to a fault and some see nothing good in homegrown.

Am not for Shehu or Ebuehi cos have past the mediocre analysis based on love for players,have seen different generations of eagles,so nothing new again than to relax and enjoy the game.

forgiveness:


Abdul Ajagun has played as an AMF for more than four seasons with a big club and is currently in a top 10 league but unfortunately people are demanding for players in backwater leagues. Smh

I love this comment. Abdul Ajagun or any natural AM should be invited to reduce this over reliance on an ageing Mikel. We need someone who can at least deliver 50-60% of what Mikel does for the team. It is very critical

Mujtahida:

No coach used unfit player for a match? This is simply not true. I can give you so many instances even in Nigeria football where unfit players were used. Keshi played some of our matches unfit, Oliseh came from hospital to come and play our Afcon 2000 semi final match with Senegal. Maradona played lots of matches unfit. I can go on and on.

The human body is not a machine. I do not agree with you at all that just because he passed fitness test he was fully fit. I ask didn't you see him wince in pain at one point in the match?

Even before the goals when some monikers were saying Ebuehi na baller I just sighed. He didn't ball cos I was watching him keenly. Yes I will not deny that he didn't play well but you cannot take away the fact that for the last two weeks the boy has been struggling with fitness issues. I repeat the human body is not a machine.

No be human body wey even somebody that is certified as fit will just slump and die?

Did you intentionally exclude Obafemi Martins who came in with one leg to score a goal that qualified us for the 2010 world cup?

Now, that is quality player.

MetalJigsaw:
I love this comment. Abdul Ajagun or any natural AM should be invited to reduce this over reliance on an ageing Mikel. We need someone who can at least deliver 50-60% of what Mikel does for the team. It is very critical

50-60%, made me remember the song. Give me something light.

We need something light as AM now

Is Serbia a WC team? lets stay within context.

Mujtahida:

Call any team at this WC 'common' at your own peril.

Kog45:
Sir i still repeat it no coach will throw unfit player to the field of play.

How can a player from hospital made a match day squad,Oliseh passed last minute fitness test and was named on the bench against Senegal.

@ bolded is untrue. He was not even dressed for the match. Oliseh said so himself. (Watch his interview on youtube.... something with a caption Captain Fantastic)