Preshy561:
it is very shameful,going by their comments.one would think they value their northen slavemasters more than their own brothers.

fk001:
Divide and concur will not work for you...





Yoruba's are united

BishopMagic:

How Yoruba Muslims Sacked Old Oyo And Will Do Same For All Odua

Ilorin was a small town in the Oyo Empire by the beginning of the 19th century. Afonja, Baale of Ilorin, who also held the title of Are Ona Kakanfo of the Oyo Empire, rebelled against his king, the Alafin of Oyo, in 1817. (There is no space here for the reasons for his rebellion). In order to sustain his rebellion, he was desperate to build a large and powerful army. To that end, he did a number of desperate things.

First, he invited the people of nearby villages to move to Ilorin and turn Ilorin into a large town. Many people so moved, but most refused.

Secondly, he reached out to many prominent friends all over the Oyo country, and invited them to come and live in Ilorin. Some accepted his invitation and came. Among these was a rich trader named Solagberu from Kuwo. Another was a man named Alimi, a Fulani man who had long lived in the Oyo country peddling charms from town to town. Afonja employed Alimi to make charms for him and his army.

Thirdly, Afonja decided to exploit a religious situation that was causing trouble in the country at the time. A Jihad movement had started in Hausaland in the north in 1804, generating wars and stormy Islamic evangelism there. It was started and led by an immigrant people called Fulani. The Fulani immigrants were few among the large Hausa nation, but very many of the Hausa who were already Muslims sided with the Fulani – and thus made it possible for the Fulani to defeat the ancient Hausa kings and make themselves rulers over Hausaland.

Some of the violent Jihadist preachers trickled south into the Oyo country. Everywhere they came, they were causing a lot of commotion by preaching violent and disrespectful sermons against the Oyo kings and chiefs, and against Yoruba culture in general. Yoruba people, with their tradition of religious tolerance, were alarmed; and angry crowds began to attack the preachers. Afonja decided to exploit the situation by issuing a general invitation to the Muslims to flee to him in Ilorin, promising to give them protection there. Thousands of frightened Muslims fled to Ilorin, and Afonja trained many of them for his army. (Afonja himself did not intend to convert to Islam, and he never did).

Fourthly, most rich Oyo families had Hausa, Nupe and Fulani slaves - used mostly in farming, trading, livestock rearing, etc. Most were Muslims.

Afonja decided to exploit this also. He issued a proclamation saying that if any slaves ran away from their owners and came to him in Ilorin, he would give them freedom and protection there. Large numbers of slaves, mostly Hausa, fled to Afonja, and he trained some of them for his army.

Afonja thus had his large town and large army. Most of his army’s commanders and soldiers were Oyo Muslims. A few of the soldiers were Muslim Hausa – all slaves recently set free by Afonja. But many of his Hausa soldiers were unruly. He warned or threatened them repeatedly, but with no result. When he at last decided to discipline them, they mutinied. Afonja was killed in the mutiny - in 1823.

Meanwhile, while Alimi had been making charms for the army, he had become a friend to many of the Oyo commanders who were Muslims, and these hadmade him Imam (Islamic teacher and preacher) for the Muslim community in the army. After Afonja›s death, the same friends gradually made their Imam the ruler of Ilorin. They also created some officers among the Hausa soldiers - for instance, Balogun Gambari. The powerful men doing all these things were Oyo.

That then is how Oyo people made a Fulani man the ruler of Ilorin. When Alimi died, his elder son, Abdulsalam, was elevated to his father’s position by his father›s powerful Oyo Muslim friends. Adulsalam had lived in the Jihad in Hausaland and had only recently come to live with his father in Ilorin. He knew that the Jihad had made the Fulani the rulers of Ilorin - with a Fulani Sultanate based in Sokoto and quasi-independent Fulani Emirs in the separate Hausa kingdoms. So, after he was made ruler of Ilorin, he sent to Hausaland to announce that he had established an Emirate in Ilorin and to ask that his Emirate should be accepted as part of the Fulani Sultanate.

In this way, Ilorin became a Fulani Emirate, ruled by a Fulani family.

Ilorin was, in population, still an Oyo town - probably over 95% Oyo in population. And Ilorin was never conquered or even invaded by any Fulani army. Those influential Oyo men who made Alimi and his son the rulers of Ilorin did so out of fervour for their Islamic faith.

When the news of the happenings in Ilorin spread all over the Oyo country, people were shocked to hear that Ilorin people had made the family of an obscure Fulani charm peddler their rulers. Therefore, people formed armies to go and subdue Ilorin and flush out the Fulani impostors. None of these invasions of Ilorin succeeded. The invading armies were poorly organized, and, moreover, the old Afonja army defending Ilorin was just too powerful. In fact, in the end, the Ilorin people, in order to ensure perfect protection for their fervently Muslim town, decided to go out and conquer most of Yorubaland (all the way to the sea coast), and make all of it a Muslim empire ruled from Ilorin.

Their army marched out in about 1838, conquering town after town towards the south, and causing mammoth streams of refugees. Till today, most Yoruba people still call this Ilorin invasion a Fulani invasion of Yorubaland. But it was not a Fulani invasion at all; it was an attempt by the predominantly Yoruba Muslim people of Ilorin to conquer and Islamize the rest of Yorubaland.

The victorious Ilorin march southwards ended suddenly in 1840. The refugees who had gathered in the Egba village of Ibadan had quickly become a large town. Their army marched out and met the Ilorin army in Oshogbo in 1840, and totally destroyed them, capturing many of their commanders. From then on, the power of Ilorin was more or less over, and Ilorin never dared again to face the Ibadan army in battle.

In the following years, Ibadan became the most powerful state in Yorubaland, and established control over the Oshun valley, Ife, Ijesa, Ekiti, Akoko, Igbomina and parts of Iyagba. Ilorin continued to be ambitious to control some territory in its immediate neighbourhood – in nearby Igbomina and Ibolo (especially Offa); but they feared Ibadan. In 1877, the Ekiti, Ijesa, Igbomina and Akoko revolted against Ibadan’s rule, and the Kiriji War started, keeping all these peoples and Ibadan busy until 1893. Ilorin took advantage of this and established some feeble control over parts of Igbomina and Ibolo.

However, at home in Ilorin itself, a proper Emirate could not develop. The powerful Yoruba war chiefs wanted to re-establish the traditional Yoruba political system whereby the chiefs in a kingdom select their king. The Emirs resisted. By 1895, the chiefs were winning the contest grandly – a situation which forced the Emir Momoh to commit suicide after setting his palace on fire. The victorious chiefs then installed Sulaiman as Emir. This was the situation when the forces of the British Royal Niger Company came and conquered Ilorin in 1897.

In the years that followed, it was the British that established Ilorin as a full-fledged emirate, making the Ilorin Emir like the Emirs of Hausaland. The Emir then took advantage of that to establish all sorts of Emirate-type control over Ibolo and northern Igbomina.

In short, Ilorin was never conquered (was never even invaded) by the Fulani. Ilorin is more than 90% Yoruba in population. The Igbomina, Ibolo, and Ekiti of Kwara, because they have hated the imposture of the Ilorin Emirs since the beginning of British rule, tend to be usually cool towards Ilorin. Rather it was the treasonable ambition of Afonja and the Yoruba Muslim converts who handed Ilorin to the Fulanis.

Today, the same group are at the forefront fighting to ensure that all Yoruba land falls to Sokoto.

BishopMagic:
[s]First, this thread is not about culture but the seething socio-political quakes that the SW is currently experiencing.
I beg the Mods to leave this thread here as what I am about to post here are relevant to politics board.

Since Oba Akanbi decided to dump the traditions and culture of his ancestral throne for that of a Muslim title similar to what pervades in the Islamic fiefdoms of northern Nigeria, a lot of negative reactions have trailed the move. The Amir is not however facing condemnations only as he has also staunch supporters among his people who see Akanbi's declaration of all Yoruba land as an Emirate under his supreme authority as a welcome development. Akanbi's supporters, as you may rightly guess, are Yoruba Muslims.

Akanbi, did not only declare all Yoruba land an Emirate under his command but also put his purported first class title under the Supreme authority of the Sultan of Sokoto. He has not only abdicated his ancestral throne but swore subservience to Sokoto. His declaration of all Yoruba land being an Emirate under his control automatically transmuted all authority and sovereignty of Odua to Sokoto.

Akanbi's mainly naive Yoruba Muslim supporters, also stated that with this move, Emir Akanbi will be the office from which other Amirs will be appointed across the breath of Yoruba land and that in due time, the traditional stools of authority in Yoruba land will be phased out by the Muslim Emirship.

It is thus glaring that why these Muslim Yorubas support Akanbi's foolishness is driven by their own desire to see that all traditional and cultural stools in Yoruba land are replaced with that of the Islamic system thereby barring non-Muslim Yorubas from occupying any elevated position of power. But naively, these bunch of misguided fools fail to factor that the authority to appoint an Amir in Yoruba land will be decided by Sokoto and not by them.

I can easily predict the bickering and skirmishes that will arise among Yoruba Muslims as to who is to be appointed as an Amir among them. It is from here they will carry themselves to Sokoto for the Sultan to deliberate and appoint among themselves a Muslim leader. In the future, the same Yoruba Muslims out of constant bickering and skirmishes over the Emirship tussle will demand Sokoto to appoint a Fulani to rule them and from there, the Yoruba culture will vanish and the people will forever be enslaved by Sokoto.

This is what will happen. And it will happen within 50yrs.[/s]

BishopMagic:

[s]How Yoruba Muslims Sacked Old Oyo And Will Do Same For All Odua

Ilorin was a small town in the Oyo Empire by the beginning of the 19th century. Afonja, Baale of Ilorin, who also held the title of Are Ona Kakanfo of the Oyo Empire, rebelled against his king, the Alafin of Oyo, in 1817. (There is no space here for the reasons for his rebellion). In order to sustain his rebellion, he was desperate to build a large and powerful army. To that end, he did a number of desperate things.

First, he invited the people of nearby villages to move to Ilorin and turn Ilorin into a large town. Many people so moved, but most refused.

Secondly, he reached out to many prominent friends all over the Oyo country, and invited them to come and live in Ilorin. Some accepted his invitation and came. Among these was a rich trader named Solagberu from Kuwo. Another was a man named Alimi, a Fulani man who had long lived in the Oyo country peddling charms from town to town. Afonja employed Alimi to make charms for him and his army.

Thirdly, Afonja decided to exploit a religious situation that was causing trouble in the country at the time. A Jihad movement had started in Hausaland in the north in 1804, generating wars and stormy Islamic evangelism there. It was started and led by an immigrant people called Fulani. The Fulani immigrants were few among the large Hausa nation, but very many of the Hausa who were already Muslims sided with the Fulani – and thus made it possible for the Fulani to defeat the ancient Hausa kings and make themselves rulers over Hausaland.

Some of the violent Jihadist preachers trickled south into the Oyo country. Everywhere they came, they were causing a lot of commotion by preaching violent and disrespectful sermons against the Oyo kings and chiefs, and against Yoruba culture in general. Yoruba people, with their tradition of religious tolerance, were alarmed; and angry crowds began to attack the preachers. Afonja decided to exploit the situation by issuing a general invitation to the Muslims to flee to him in Ilorin, promising to give them protection there. Thousands of frightened Muslims fled to Ilorin, and Afonja trained many of them for his army. (Afonja himself did not intend to convert to Islam, and he never did).

Fourthly, most rich Oyo families had Hausa, Nupe and Fulani slaves - used mostly in farming, trading, livestock rearing, etc. Most were Muslims.

Afonja decided to exploit this also. He issued a proclamation saying that if any slaves ran away from their owners and came to him in Ilorin, he would give them freedom and protection there. Large numbers of slaves, mostly Hausa, fled to Afonja, and he trained some of them for his army.

Afonja thus had his large town and large army. Most of his army’s commanders and soldiers were Oyo Muslims. A few of the soldiers were Muslim Hausa – all slaves recently set free by Afonja. But many of his Hausa soldiers were unruly. He warned or threatened them repeatedly, but with no result. When he at last decided to discipline them, they mutinied. Afonja was killed in the mutiny - in 1823.

Meanwhile, while Alimi had been making charms for the army, he had become a friend to many of the Oyo commanders who were Muslims, and these hadmade him Imam (Islamic teacher and preacher) for the Muslim community in the army. After Afonja›s death, the same friends gradually made their Imam the ruler of Ilorin. They also created some officers among the Hausa soldiers - for instance, Balogun Gambari. The powerful men doing all these things were Oyo.

That then is how Oyo people made a Fulani man the ruler of Ilorin. When Alimi died, his elder son, Abdulsalam, was elevated to his father’s position by his father›s powerful Oyo Muslim friends. Adulsalam had lived in the Jihad in Hausaland and had only recently come to live with his father in Ilorin. He knew that the Jihad had made the Fulani the rulers of Ilorin - with a Fulani Sultanate based in Sokoto and quasi-independent Fulani Emirs in the separate Hausa kingdoms. So, after he was made ruler of Ilorin, he sent to Hausaland to announce that he had established an Emirate in Ilorin and to ask that his Emirate should be accepted as part of the Fulani Sultanate.

In this way, Ilorin became a Fulani Emirate, ruled by a Fulani family.

Ilorin was, in population, still an Oyo town - probably over 95% Oyo in population. And Ilorin was never conquered or even invaded by any Fulani army. Those influential Oyo men who made Alimi and his son the rulers of Ilorin did so out of fervour for their Islamic faith.

When the news of the happenings in Ilorin spread all over the Oyo country, people were shocked to hear that Ilorin people had made the family of an obscure Fulani charm peddler their rulers. Therefore, people formed armies to go and subdue Ilorin and flush out the Fulani impostors. None of these invasions of Ilorin succeeded. The invading armies were poorly organized, and, moreover, the old Afonja army defending Ilorin was just too powerful. In fact, in the end, the Ilorin people, in order to ensure perfect protection for their fervently Muslim town, decided to go out and conquer most of Yorubaland (all the way to the sea coast), and make all of it a Muslim empire ruled from Ilorin.

Their army marched out in about 1838, conquering town after town towards the south, and causing mammoth streams of refugees. Till today, most Yoruba people still call this Ilorin invasion a Fulani invasion of Yorubaland. But it was not a Fulani invasion at all; it was an attempt by the predominantly Yoruba Muslim people of Ilorin to conquer and Islamize the rest of Yorubaland.

The victorious Ilorin march southwards ended suddenly in 1840. The refugees who had gathered in the Egba village of Ibadan had quickly become a large town. Their army marched out and met the Ilorin army in Oshogbo in 1840, and totally destroyed them, capturing many of their commanders. From then on, the power of Ilorin was more or less over, and Ilorin never dared again to face the Ibadan army in battle.

In the following years, Ibadan became the most powerful state in Yorubaland, and established control over the Oshun valley, Ife, Ijesa, Ekiti, Akoko, Igbomina and parts of Iyagba. Ilorin continued to be ambitious to control some territory in its immediate neighbourhood – in nearby Igbomina and Ibolo (especially Offa); but they feared Ibadan. In 1877, the Ekiti, Ijesa, Igbomina and Akoko revolted against Ibadan’s rule, and the Kiriji War started, keeping all these peoples and Ibadan busy until 1893. Ilorin took advantage of this and established some feeble control over parts of Igbomina and Ibolo.

However, at home in Ilorin itself, a proper Emirate could not develop. The powerful Yoruba war chiefs wanted to re-establish the traditional Yoruba political system whereby the chiefs in a kingdom select their king. The Emirs resisted. By 1895, the chiefs were winning the contest grandly – a situation which forced the Emir Momoh to commit suicide after setting his palace on fire. The victorious chiefs then installed Sulaiman as Emir. This was the situation when the forces of the British Royal Niger Company came and conquered Ilorin in 1897.

In the years that followed, it was the British that established Ilorin as a full-fledged emirate, making the Ilorin Emir like the Emirs of Hausaland. The Emir then took advantage of that to establish all sorts of Emirate-type control over Ibolo and northern Igbomina.

In short, Ilorin was never conquered (was never even invaded) by the Fulani. Ilorin is more than 90% Yoruba in population. The Igbomina, Ibolo, and Ekiti of Kwara, because they have hated the imposture of the Ilorin Emirs since the beginning of British rule, tend to be usually cool towards Ilorin. Rather it was the treasonable ambition of Afonja and the Yoruba Muslim converts who handed Ilorin to the Fulanis.

Today, the same group are at the forefront fighting to ensure that all Yoruba land falls to Sokoto[/s].

BishopMagic:
First, this thread is not about culture but the seething socio-political quakes that the SW is currently experiencing.
I beg the Mods to leave this thread here as what I am about to post here are relevant to politics board.

Since Oba Akanbi decided to dump the traditions and culture of his ancestral throne for that of a Muslim title similar to what pervades in the Islamic fiefdoms of northern Nigeria, a lot of negative reactions have trailed the move. The Amir is not however facing condemnations only as he has also staunch supporters among his people who see Akanbi's declaration of all Yoruba land as an Emirate under his supreme authority as a welcome development. Akanbi's supporters, as you may rightly guess, are Yoruba Muslims.

Akanbi, did not only declare all Yoruba land an Emirate under his command but also put his purported first class title under the Supreme authority of the Sultan of Sokoto. He has not only abdicated his ancestral throne but swore subservience to Sokoto. His declaration of all Yoruba land being an Emirate under his control automatically transmuted all authority and sovereignty of Odua to Sokoto.

Akanbi's mainly naive Yoruba Muslim supporters, also stated that with this move, Emir Akanbi will be the office from which other Amirs will be appointed across the breath of Yoruba land and that in due time, the traditional stools of authority in Yoruba land will be phased out by the Muslim Emirship.

It is thus glaring that why these Muslim Yorubas support Akanbi's foolishness is driven by their own desire to see that all traditional and cultural stools in Yoruba land are replaced with that of the Islamic system thereby barring non-Muslim Yorubas from occupying any elevated position of power. But naively, these bunch of misguided fools fail to factor that the authority to appoint an Amir in Yoruba land will be decided by Sokoto and not by them.

I can easily predict the bickering and skirmishes that will arise among Yoruba Muslims as to who is to be appointed as an Amir among them. It is from here they will carry themselves to Sokoto for the Sultan to deliberate and appoint among themselves a Muslim leader. In the future, the same Yoruba Muslims out of constant bickering and skirmishes over the Emirship tussle will demand Sokoto to appoint a Fulani to rule them and from there, the Yoruba culture will vanish and the people will forever be enslaved by Sokoto.

This is what will happen. And it will happen within 50yrs.

ClumsyFlimsy:

They actually value the northern Muslim more than their Christian brothers


I only pity the naive weak minded Yoruba Christians who are yet to smell the coffee. Yoruba Muslims will gladly sacrifice their Christian brothers just to please their masters


Funny thing is that the Yoruba Muslims are seen as lesser muslims and can't lead prayer in the presence of genuine muslims


Yoruba muslums are Kaffirs


Very soon the entire yorubaland will belong to the sokoto caliphate


Eastern nigeria needs to united and come together in case of the future..We need to realise that South East and South South are one

And that south west and middle belt belongs to the core North which is the sokoto caliohate. The south west and middle belt are as good as conquered


Eastern Nigeria which comprises of igbo speaking states and the Niger delta states of akwa ibom, cross river et c need to unite now more than ever

ClumsyFlimsy:

They actually value the northern Muslim more than their Christian brothers


I only pity the naive weak minded Yoruba Christians who are yet to smell the coffee. Yoruba Muslims will gladly sacrifice their Christian brothers just to please their masters


Funny thing is that the Yoruba Muslims are seen as lesser muslims and can't lead prayer in the presence of genuine muslims


Yoruba muslums are Kaffirs


Very soon the entire yorubaland will belong to the sokoto caliphate


Eastern nigeria needs to united and come together in case of the future..We need to realise that South East and South South are one

And that south west and middle belt belongs to the core North which is the sokoto caliohate. The south west and middle belt are as good as conquered


Eastern Nigeria which comprises of igbo speaking states and the Niger delta states of akwa ibom, cross river et c need to unite now more than ever

fk001:




I know the story of Afonja, how will i forget it when the lecturer that taught us "Nigeria people and culture", was a tribalistic bigot from eastern part of the country.


He insulted Yoruba culture indirectly while he praised Igbo's that they are Republican in Nature. Tell me who does that?



The hate is just mutual.

BishopMagic:
[s][/s]

Their army marched out in about 1838, conquering town after town towards the south, and causing mammoth streams of refugees. Till today, most Yoruba people still call this Ilorin invasion a Fulani invasion of Yorubaland. But it was not a Fulani invasion at all; it was an attempt by the predominantly Yoruba Muslim people of Ilorin to conquer and Islamize the rest of Yorubaland.

The victorious Ilorin march southwards ended suddenly in 1840. The refugees who had gathered in the Egba village of Ibadan had quickly become a large town.

The funny thing about you Oyorubas is how you always pick the message based on the messenger.

The history of Oyoruba treachery is never complete without mentioning Yoruba Muslims!

fk001:




Keep on wailing

Corrinthians:
Mynd44, Lalasticlala, Seun, Obinoscopy, Dominique. Rule 2

Corrinthians:
Mynd44, Lalasticlala, Seun, Obinoscopy, Dominique. Rule 2

Corrinthians:
Foolish shit hole comment from an ibo Jhew.

5thElement:
Mr bishopmagic or magisbishop or whatever. It's quite
plain that you despise the Yoruba people going by your previous comments.

What I don't understand is why you keep opening threads about Yoruba Moslems or even about the Yoruba in general.

We get. You and your tribes folks on Nairaland are ecstatic that a king in Yoruba land has decided to put on an emir's regalia.

So after a few days of jumping around and celebrating this, one would have thought you guys would move on already.

So can you answer this question please:

Why are you crying more than the bereaved?

ClumsyFlimsy:

LMAO it's the truth

Make them ban me na


No be today be the first time person don chop ban for saying the truth

fk001:




Keep on wailing

BishopMagic:


Not only did they sack your border town of ilorin, your capital in Oyo Ile, killed your General(s), Oba and Princess but also forced all of you to congregrate in the biggest IDP camp ever created -Ibadan.

You see the same Hausa/Fulani alongside their treacherous Yoruba Muslim allies are credited in creating Ibadan, because it is from their jihad that you Yorubas all ran and converged in what is today Ibadan - the only city to be founded as a refugee camp!

BishopMagic:



All Yoruba Obas Are Useless Says Bola Tinubu
National Leader of the All Progressives Congress, APC, Bola Ahmed Tinubu, has disclosed that only three monarchs in Yorubaland are upright, describing others as “useless”.

The former governor of Lagos State made this declaration on Friday in Ijebu-Ode during a special prayer session held at the Central Mosque in the city to mark the 80th birthday of the Awujale of Ijebuland, Oba Sikiru Kayode Adetona, the Ogbagba II. Tinubu extolled the doggedness of the paramount ruler.

http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/all-yoruba-obas-are-useless-says-bola-tinubu/

fk001:



And Ibadan is far better than the entire Southeast States

BishopMagic:



[s]National Leader of the All Progressives Congress, APC, Bola Ahmed Tinubu, has disclosed that only three monarchs in Yorubaland are upright, describing others as “useless”.

The former governor of Lagos State made this declaration on Friday in Ijebu-Ode during a special prayer session held at the Central Mosque in the city to mark the 80th birthday of the Awujale of Ijebuland, Oba Sikiru Kayode Adetona, the Ogbagba II. Tinubu extolled the doggedness of the paramount ruler.

http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/all-yoruba-obas-are-useless-says-bola-tinubu/[/s]

BishopMagic:


[s]Not only did they sack your border town of ilorin, your capital in Oyo Ile, killed your General(s), Oba and Princess but also forced all of you to congregrate in the biggest IDP camp ever created -Ibadan.

You see the same Hausa/Fulani alongside their treacherous Yoruba Muslim allies are credited in creating Ibadan, because it is from their jihad that you Yorubas all ran and converged in what is today Ibadan - the only city to be founded as a refugee camp[/s]!

BishopMagic:


[s]The thing pain am.

But why must you remind him of his inferior status among real Muslims from the north?

You bad ghan[/s]