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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:42pm On Apr 05, 2018
forgiveness:


Who takes your opinion seriously? Of course, only your.

Like you said my opinion. CYRIL DESSERS!!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:44pm On Apr 05, 2018
tbaba1234:
According to OGN, Ebere Eze is under consideration for the 35 man squad. The coach is looking for options for the number 10 role. Great if true.

(Take story with a pinch of salt because of OGN antecedents)

Has Eze Ebere being more impressive than Abdul Ajagun this season?

I am not saying he should not be called but if he's called, then Abdul Ajagun must be on the list.

Or Rohr doesn't know Nigeria players doing well abroad.

We are watching.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:46pm On Apr 05, 2018
Certitude:

I'm just not sold on Ideye. Great first touch but his finishing makes one want to smash his TV screen... As for Ogbeche, common son! How old was I when the guy played for the NT? I would have preferred Martins cause of his pace but I no like that gy after 2010 WC...
I'd stick with just Kayode and any decent Cmf or Amf.

Ideye contributions won us the last Nations cup. He is a good team player.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:54pm On Apr 05, 2018
somehow:
Yea yea yea, color it anyhow you like but una intensions are out in the open since hearing the news. Too bad some of you don't know that for Ighalo to sit up, he need someone who's with same experience or even more experienced than him up front. He's been kinda lackadaisical of recent. Anyways we can as well include a toddler to the 23 man list to the world cup so we can go make up numbers as usual.

There is no other striker of Nigerian descent tested and trusted that can give Ighalo any sit up needed at the mundia. All the same, I still pray we find a greenhorn somewhere somehow who can at least come to our rescue incase Ighalo continue his "press up activities" at the Frontline why we beg other players to help us score as usual.

Kayode to me doesn't have that presence that can scare or put defenders at alert.

Umar, I don't know if Rohr wants someone like that.

Dessers..... He's been up in the media for months now and Rohr hasn't for once given any hint of calling him.

Maybe Ajayi but is Ajayi a CF that can actually replace Ighalo if need be?

Ask AC Roma, dey will tell you Kayode scared the life out of them with his two goals and assist in Europa League over two matches.

Don't forget, he scored against an Italian defensive team twice. I don't think it's is moi moi.

Kayode Olanrewaju is far better than Dessers and Umar combined.

Those two lads are not in his level.

Give him the chance to prove himself and he will deliver.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:56pm On Apr 05, 2018
Aiyenugba

Aina Ilori Balogun Idowu


Aluko Aluko

Aluko



Ajagun Kayode faleye


This is some folks on here starting 11, of given the Chance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:58pm On Apr 05, 2018
Certitude:

How we take lose? Martins hasn't played for us for... I can't tell how long. What has he done for us since the 2010 WC?

What did Mikel Obi do for us before 2013 after almost a decade in the National team?

It is a big lost to Nigeria because there are no striker as competent as Martins Obafemi currently in the National team. Oh.. ha!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 5:58pm On Apr 05, 2018
forgiveness:


Ask AC Roma, dey will tell you Kayode scared the life out of them with his two goals and assist in Europa League over two matches.

Don't forget, he scored against an Italian defensive team twice. I don't think it's is moi moi.

Kayode Olanrewaju is far better than Dessers and Umar combined.

Those two lads are not in his level.

Give him the chance to prove himself and he will deliver.
yimu!! All this Na just talk...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:00pm On Apr 05, 2018
kellycute:
yimu!! All this Na just talk...

Yes, na talk now but if na Kelechi Iheanacho, we no go hear word.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:01pm On Apr 05, 2018
forgiveness:



Only two games is not enough to right Ideye off.

He's still better than Dessers and Umar.

I know people will not focus on what Ogbeche can bring to the table but his age to discredit him.

Kayode Olanrewaju is far ahead of these two players. He brings more to the team.

If we look at Dessers stats in Eredivise, it's not impressive neither is Sadiq Umar's impressed in Seria A.

However, Kayode Olanrewaju has impressed in all the leagues in went to including la Liga.

Ideye is very hardworking and links up play well but his finishing is poor.

Umar is strong, fast and skilful, also holds up play well but can do better with finishing.

Dessers, better finisher than Umar and Ideye, good on both feet but not as strong as them

Kayode, fast and disturber in chief, closes the ball better than the rest, finishing average, not great in holding up play..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 6:03pm On Apr 05, 2018
forgiveness:


What did Mikel Obi do for us before 2013 after almost a decade in the National team?

It is a big lost to Nigeria because there are no striker as competent as Martins Obafemi currently in the National team. Oh.. ha!
Mikel was a small boy... Martins is an old man.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:05pm On Apr 05, 2018
Truidstar:
Aiyenugba

Aina Ilori Balogun Idowu


Aluko Aluko

Aluko



Ajagun Kayode faleye


This is some folks on here starting 11, of given the Chance.

Insecurity dey worri some people here so tey dem dey despise people different from them.

Five of those players will bench the first eleven of Nigeria national team. GBAM
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BluntBoy(m): 6:06pm On Apr 05, 2018
Sincerely, this Nigerian team is a disaster waiting to happen.

We are lacking in both the striking and goalkeeping department and our midfield is basically nonexistent. Supposing something happens to Mikel before or during the World Cup, what would be our fate?

Rohr needs to do something fast about the goalkeeping department. The goalkeeper trainers need to show some urgency. I don't and can never be comfortable with Uzoho, Ezenwa or Akpeyi manning the post. Perhaps, they should invite Austin Ejide next time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:07pm On Apr 05, 2018
Certitude:

Mikel was a small boy... Martins is an old man.

Was Yobo also a small boy?

Was Enyeama also a small boy?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:08pm On Apr 05, 2018
Truidstar:
Aiyenugba

Aina Ilori Balogun Idowu


Aluko Aluko

Aluko



Ajagun Kayode faleye


This is some folks on here starting 11, of given the Chance.
Wahala dey o,pls what is the meaning of this,i mean your line up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:10pm On Apr 05, 2018
BluntBoy:
Sincerely, this Nigerian team is a disaster waiting to happen.

We are lacking in both the striking and goalkeeping department and our midfield is basically nonexistent. Supposing something happens to Mikel before or during the World Cup, what would be our fate?

Rohr needs to do something fast about the goalkeeping departments. The goalkeeper trainers need to show some urgency. I don't and can never be comfortable with Uzoho, Ezenwa or Akpeyi manning the post. Perhaps, they should invite Austin Ejide next time.


Austin Ejide??

The same Austin Ejide that kept in the run-up to 2014 WC or another one...

This same Nigeria team was unbeaten in the qualifiers after facing 3 former African champions. They will get it right for the tournament proper.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 6:11pm On Apr 05, 2018
tbaba1234:
What happens when pinnick's tenure is over? Are we going to go back to NFF of old?

It is good to see all the sponsorship deals and friendlies organised, even for the female team.
. Let's give that man a second tenure abeg cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:13pm On Apr 05, 2018
tbaba1234:


Ideye is very hardworking and links up play well but his finishing is poor.

Umar is strong, fast and skilful, also holds up play well but can do better with finishing.

Dessers, better finisher than Umar and Ideye, good on both feet but not as strong as them

Kayode, fast and disturber in chief, closes the ball better than the rest, finishing average, not great in holding up play..


I have seen all played. Brown Ideye and Kayode Olarewaju are far better.

Umar struggled in Seria A. Forget stats. I monitored his games.

Besides, if Kayode Olanrewaju finishing is average, how come he scored double digits goals for 4 straight seasons?

If Kayode Olanrewaju finishing is average then Umar and Dessers are below average. Take that to the bank.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:13pm On Apr 05, 2018
Martins sidelined for at least 7 months with a torn hamstring.
Henry Onyekuru to resume training in 2 weeks time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BluntBoy(m): 6:15pm On Apr 05, 2018
tbaba1234:


Austin Ejide??

The same Austin Ejide that kept in the run-up to 2014 WC or another one...

This same Nigeria team was unbeaten in the qualifiers after facing 3 former African champions. They will get it right for the tournament proper.

The World Cup is different from Qualifiers. Moreover, it was not like we were super against Zambia and Algeria in our last two matches.

But, tell me, what do you have against Ejide? I can't remember Ejide's run-up to 2014 WC.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:17pm On Apr 05, 2018
Kog45:
Wahala dey o,pls what is the meaning of this,i mean your line up.

He is mocking people that bears such name but ask him to make his own first eleven. Don't be surprised at the end of the day.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:25pm On Apr 05, 2018
forgiveness:



I have seen all played. Brown Ideye and Kayode Olarewaju are far better.

Umar struggled in Seria A. Forget stats. I monitored his game.

Besides, if Kayode Olanrewaju finishing is average, how come he scored double digits goals for 4 straight seasons?

If Kayode Olanrewaju finishing is average then Umar and Dessers are below average. Take that to the bank.

You will always say Kayode is the best, he is one of your favorite players alongside Ajagun, ilori.. ..

Kayode finishing is average, when he went to a better league, it showed.. Ideye was scoring a lot in Ukraine but when the standard was higher he could not produce.

Umar had limited opportunities in Serie A but he showed his ability in pre season and now in the Eredivise. In his recent games, he has made me a believer in his abilities. He still needs to improve on his finishing. His finishing is not good enough yet.

Dessers has one of highest goal scoring rates per minute in the eredivise.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:26pm On Apr 05, 2018
BluntBoy:


The World Cup is different from Qualifiers. Moreover, it was not like we were super against Zambia and Algeria in our last two matches.

But, tell me, what do you have against Ejide? I can't remember Ejide's run-up to 2014 WC.
World Cup is different from qualifiers, but you think this team is weak based on what?

If anything should be compared to the World Cup, it is the qualifiers, because that was a competitive game. It should be taken more seriously than friendlies, because I know, all this talk arose from our recent friendlies

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:30pm On Apr 05, 2018
BluntBoy:


The World Cup is different from Qualifiers. Moreover, it was not like we were super against Zambia and Algeria in our last two matches.

But, tell me, what do you have against Ejide? I can't remember Ejide's run-up to 2014 WC.

The team still finished undefeated.. Even the best teams in the world are not excellent in every game.

Ejide was very poor in the friendlies leading to the 2014 WC. In the game against Scotland, he appeared to have thrown the ball deliberately into the net.

You can see for yourself:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9PV8lqBknA
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Bulletproof: 6:32pm On Apr 05, 2018
chilex9:


Me chop their money for Poland game but this one I go play Serbia to win or draw and over 1.5
Boss.... I sent you a pm
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mbjane: 6:44pm On Apr 05, 2018
forgiveness:


Ideye contributions won us the last Nations cup. He is a good team player.

Because his contribution won us last nation cup means he should be invited,i weep for you keep on living on past glory

Mario gotze goal won Germany last World Cup,And I am not sure he will make their squad because he has been out of form,so Germany should look at his past glory right ?

Just the way Eder goal won Portugal the European championship but since then he has he been invited ?

You are just a typical example of a Nigeria coach with no clue

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 6:48pm On Apr 05, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


If Mbape is worth160 then Lemar should not be far off.

It doesn't have a single thing to do with Neymar. PSG paid Neymar's release clause leaving barca alot of money to play with. Of course Dortmund would boost Dembele's price because the whole world knows they have 222 milion in the bank. But before that he was highly rated and he had even turned down Barcelona the year prior so they didn't just go to the park and spend 100 on some bum.
It's not like Arsenal had a deal set with Monaco, they were bidding and getting rejected. If there was such a thing as Neymar effect Lacazette and Aubameyang would have both been sold for 100 million.


How the Neymar domino effect triggered record winter spending
Thus it was a domino effect from Paris to Barcelona that enabled them to splash the cash, which in turn triggered Liverpool's club record signing of Virgil van Dijk from Southampton.A number of other top clubs made significant purchases in January; Arsenal brought in Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Manchester City swooped for Aymeric Laporte - both club record deals - whilst Manchester United handed a whopping salary to Alexis Sanchez and Atletico Madrid signed Diego Costa.Other key patterns are also emerging, such as how players are more often moving for their release clause, including Neymar, Laporte, Inigo Martinez, Cedric Bakambu, Dani Ceballos and Vitolo.Given that such a clause is mandatory in Spain, the volatile market can make it very hard to predict a player's worth at the moment of signing a contract, particularly a long-term one.Furthermore, Madrid's inactivity for January was partly due to a busy summer, however the impact of new players has been minimal when taking the percentage of minutes actually played into account.For example, Theo Hernandez and Ceballos have featured in just 18 percent and 11 percent of Real's minutes since joining, respectively, which is a far cry from Paulinho's 58 percent at the Camp Nou.

http://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2018/02/13/5a81d91b468aebe05e8b4596.html

Neymar's Move To PSG Will Set A World Record And Trigger More High-Priced Transfers - Forbes
https://www.forbes.com › 2017/07/31

Please spare awhile and read how Neymar's mega transfer distorted the European transfer market. I would have referenced another 100 articles on the subject but that will be an over overkill.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 6:52pm On Apr 05, 2018
forgiveness:


Yes, na talk now but if na Kelechi Iheanacho, we no go hear word.

Hahaha. Quite right though
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:52pm On Apr 05, 2018
Ndidi suspended for 2 games.. The boy needs the rest..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Farzat: 7:13pm On Apr 05, 2018
Is this highlight your only reason for calling him a finished product? Then show me the great keeper that has not conceeded a worst goal. Enyeama? Buffon? De gea? Neuer?
GKs they say gets better with age so lets support or criticise based on current form.

tbaba1234:


The team still finished undefeated.. Even the best teams in the world are not excellent in every game.

Ejide was very poor in the friendlies leading to the 2014 WC. In the game against Scotland, he appeared to have thrown the ball deliberately into the net.

You can see for yourself:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9PV8lqBknA
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BluntBoy(m): 7:28pm On Apr 05, 2018
tbaba1234:


The team still finished undefeated.. Even the best teams in the world are not excellent in every game.

Ejide was very poor in the friendlies leading to the 2014 WC. In the game against Scotland, he appeared to have thrown the ball deliberately into the net.

You can see for yourself:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9PV8lqBknA

OK.

But honestly, what choices do we have?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:35pm On Apr 05, 2018
tbaba1234:


You will always say Kayode is the best, he is one of your favorite players alongside Ajagun, ilori.. ..

Kayode finishing is average, when he went to a better league, it showed.. Ideye was scoring a lot in Ukraine but when the standard was higher he could not produce.

Umar had limited opportunities in Serie A but he showed his ability in pre season and now in the Eredivise. In his recent games, he has made me a believer in his abilities. He still needs to improve on his finishing. His finishing is not good enough yet.

Dessers has one of highest goal scoring rates per minute in the eredivise.






That's why you are not being objective but rather subjective in reasoning because you think 'they are my favorite players'.

That is the height of ridiculousness.

The question should be, do they deserve to be mentioned based on performance as at the time they were clamored for? Yes or no. That's is being objective in reasoning.

Did you watch Kayode Olanrewaju in the la Liga?

Can you please tell me the match you watched Kayode played that it showed that is finishing was average?

Can you tell me the position he played in the match?

Please, make sure you tell me of atleast 2 or 3 matches?


When I said you are biased and subjective in analysis, I don't think I am going too far else how can you make excuses for Sadiq Umar for not having game time but condemned Kayode without thinking Sadiq Umar had better chances than Kayode Olanrewaju in Sergio_A?


How many games and minutes did Kayode play in la Liga?

12 matches with 375 minutes only. Don't forget he started only twice and on the second occasion he assisted twice and won MOTM.

I will not tell you where he played in some of matches he came on. Let us see you really watched the match or YouTube self.

Now, what about Sadiq Umar?

16 matches with 642 minutes game time.

So, from your biased mind, Kayode had more game time than Sadiq Umar, right? Mtcheww!

Umar missed many scoring chances in Sergio_A I saw him played, oh.. ha! Ask those who saw him played here, they will tell you.

So, stop the lies and be objective for once.

The first snapshot is Kayode’s stats while the second is Sadiq's stats.


I repeat, Brown ideye and Kayode olanrewaju are far better than Dessers and Umar.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BluntBoy(m): 7:35pm On Apr 05, 2018
safarigirl:
World Cup is different from qualifiers, but you think this team is weak based on what?

If anything should be compared to the World Cup, it is the qualifiers, because that was a competitive game. It should be taken more seriously than friendlies, because I know, all this talk arose from our recent friendlies

For those of us who watched keenly, the talk began right from the Cameroon vs Nigeria return fixture and then through the Zambia match in Uyo and the last match against Algeria where Ezenwa's inadequacy was laid bare. The friendlies were merely further pointers of the disaster awaiting us if we don't do something about this team.

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