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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:12am On Apr 11, 2018
Was he why they were 2;0 down? If you watch the replay, you would see that the midfield was not active at all and the backline kept making silly errors. The sub was good but he wrong person was removed.
tbaba1234:


They were already 2:0 down before he was subbed..

The player who replaced Musa scored the only goal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:15am On Apr 11, 2018
somehow:
Was he why they were 2;0 down? If you watch the replay, you would see that the midfield was not active at all and the backline kept making silly errors. The sub was good but he wrong person was removed.

Perhaps but removing Musa for another striker is something any manager can do, especially if you are looking for a goal...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:23am On Apr 11, 2018
You don't remove striker for a striker if you're looking for goals when you can add another striker to give yourself more options.

Alan Dzagoev was useless in the midfield and even rated as the worst on that day, yet he left him for the full match. He used 3-1-4-2 formation, the back was so leaky and the middle kept losing balls. Moved Vitinho to the middle, infact the formation that day brought about their lost which should be blamed on the coach.

All the same, Musa should apologize and everything will be fine.
tbaba1234:


Perhaps but removing Musa for another striker is something any manager can do, especially if you are looking for a goal...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:30am On Apr 11, 2018
somehow:
You don't remove striker for a striker if you're looking for goals when you can add another striker to give yourself more options.

Alan Dzagoev was useless in the midfield and even rated as the worst on that day, yet he left him for the full match. He used 3-1-4-2 formation, the back was so leaky and the middle kept losing balls. Moved Vitinho to the middle, infact the formation that day brought about their lost which should be blamed on the coach.

All the same, Musa should apologize and everything will be fine.

If a striker is not effective, you change things around in search of a goal.. Musa was subbed out fairly early in the second half.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:32am On Apr 11, 2018
He was effective? Did you watch the match?
tbaba1234:


If a striker is not effective, you change things around in search of a goal.. Musa was subbed out fairly early in the second half.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CaptainStephen(m): 8:34am On Apr 11, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Very bad but not bad enough to get him benched "forever" players do that all the time nobody should really be happy to get subbed.
yea, i think the gaffer said that in anger smiley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EmmGee: 8:42am On Apr 11, 2018
Bolowolowo:


I just tire o. He's only 25.
in football age abi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:46am On Apr 11, 2018
somehow:
He was effective? Did you watch the match?

Well, the coach who is paid to make the decisions decided that it was time to substitute Musa.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:16am On Apr 11, 2018
So much competition for Ahmed Musa! Can he hold on? And for how long?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:17am On Apr 11, 2018
krattoss:
Lsiverpool has just showed clubs how to rape mancity.

Nobody comes to English premier league and dominate..
Leicester did it for a season with hit and run, next season they we're neutralized and sent to the middle of the league where the belong.

Chelsea did it last season with 3:4:3 which took many clubs unawares, thus season look where they are..


Man city has come with tikitaka this season and gradually they re been neutralized.. By next season, they I'll go down where they belong...

LONGLIVE CTHE ENGLISH PREMIER LEAGUE cool

The most competitive and physically challenging league in the World the best is a matter of preference to me.

But widely acclaimed by numerous authoritative bodies as the best.

Not like Bundesliga rated 4th in Europe where one team has won the league 6 times in a row. Add to that has totally dominated for the past two decades. So it is safe to say the Bundesliga is a one team league.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:20am On Apr 11, 2018
elyte89:


Any loop hole,na Aluko u go mention


Even if we re to replace Rohr,u will still mention ALUKO undecided grin

The question ❓ is is it justified and I would say yes.

Tell me on of our players outside of Mikel who is more experienced and technically proficient as him add to that pace.

And the calls for Aluko should be much louder actually we should be screaming for him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:38am On Apr 11, 2018
CaptainStephen:
yea, i think the gaffer said that in anger smiley

Yea I agree. I don't think there was any malice just 2 men in the heat of the moment.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:50am On Apr 11, 2018
EmmGee:

in football age abi

lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:50am On Apr 11, 2018
goldfish80:


You could only come up with 2 names who who transfered from Africa to a top Euro team. Does this evidence tell you that these bug clubs care about Africans to come scouting here?
Dortmund may not have signed someone from Asec but over the years they have got African players who did well for them.

You really want to go out of your way to pick on one sentence I made to nail Dortmund as not doing enough scouting or being successful at that with the resources and talent that have come through the club, which is the main point of this discussion.

The debate from the beginning wasn't who had the scouting network in Africa, my friend. Don't try and turn this conversation to that.

Big clubs don't scout in Africa, every man and his dog knows this. Except we want to be economical with the truth.

1.kanu....iwuanyawu - Ajax
2. finidi....sharks - Ajax
3. George weah....cameroon - Psg
4. Patrick mboma... Cameroon - Monaco
5.taiye taiwo... lobi - Marseille
6.ogbeche...lobi - psg
7. seydeou keita...mali - Marseille
8. salif keita....mali - saint Etienne

continue lying to your self
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:55am On Apr 11, 2018
tbaba1234:
Plateau United might face serious sanctions by CAF.

South African match official Victor Gomes claims that he was offered $30k to fix the #CAFCC game Plateau United vs USM Alger in favour of Plateau United, the matter has been reported to CAF

Na wa o. Naija and corruption na 1 and 2 grin grin grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:08am On Apr 11, 2018
goldfish80:


You could only come up with 2 names who who transfered from Africa to a top Euro team. Does this evidence tell you that these bug clubs care about Africans to come scouting here?
Dortmund may not have signed someone from Asec but over the years they have got African players who did well for them.

You really want to go out of your way to pick on one sentence I made to nail Dortmund as not doing enough scouting or being successful at that with the resources and talent that have come through the club, which is the main point of this discussion.

The debate from the beginning wasn't who had the scouting network in Africa, my friend. Don't try and turn this conversation to that.

Big clubs don't scout in Africa, every man and his dog knows this. Except we want to be economical with the truth.


1.kanu....iwuanyawu - Ajax
2. finidi....sharks - Ajax
3. George weah....cameroon - Psg
4. Patrick mboma... Cameroon - Monaco
5.taiye taiwo... lobi - Marseille
6.ogbeche...lobi - psg
7. seydeou keita...mali - Marseille
8. salif keita....mali - saint Etienne

continue lying to your self
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:09am On Apr 11, 2018
krattoss:
Lsiverpool has just showed clubs how to rape mancity.

Nobody comes to English premier league and dominate..
Leicester did it for a season with hit and run, next season they we're neutralized and sent to the middle of the league where the belong.

Chelsea did it last season with 3:4:3 which took many clubs unawares, thus season look where they are..


Man city has come with tikitaka this season and gradually they re been neutralized.. By next season, they I'll go down where they belong...

LONGLIVE CTHE ENGLISH PREMIER LEAGUE cool

Liverpool is coached by a German u act like it was Alan Pardew who beat them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:28am On Apr 11, 2018
elyte89:



When I say Musa is myopic,peeps here won't agree with me,somehow even said I av personal beef for him grin grin,d argies match we lost in 2014,is d only match most moniker makes reference to when dey want to defend MYOPIC MUSA,dts d only match dey can point to after almost 8years in d national team set up


As far as I am concerned, MUSA NO b player,he has never been impressive and productive to me,he lacks d basic knowledge of been a striker, asyde PACE,my guy no get anything,I don't knw y our ex and present coaches invites him for games


I kan even here say d guy snub him coach hand, grin grin,person wey dem dey manage b4, grin grin

why are you using the word MYOPIC any how, Musa is not a bad player, his going through alot and need us. The dude has been a great servant for Nigeria, I believe he will get over this.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:35am On Apr 11, 2018
Martz101:


why are you using the word MYOPIC any how, Musa is not a bad player, his going through alot and need us. The dude has been a great servant for Nigeria, I believe he will get over this.


He's bro,d guy no sabi play ball from day 1 from my own perspective, he's just a lucky dude,we av millions of players better Dan him

And beside I av noticed dis even b4 his ordeal at leceister and now his silly action against his present
coach @ CSKA,patriotism wise towards national call up,he's okay,but football Wise, d guy no b am cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 10:37am On Apr 11, 2018
Well coaches make mistakes, he did and they lost same way Ernesto made series of mistakes against Roma. They are humans.
tbaba1234:


Well, the coach who is paid to make the decisions decided that it was time to substitute Musa.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:40am On Apr 11, 2018
gamaliel9:


Great.. is it that we had no better alternatives but now that we have better options we are seeing that this MUSA has not contributed to the growth of senior national team. For the past 8years absolutely nothing...i repeat nothing. Is he inclusion political? Why has every coach for the past 8 years included him? Even currently infact #dropmusaforkanu

how do you rate contribution to the team, this guy at some point was playing for under20, under23 and national team without complaining, in 2011 AYC Musa was playing that tournament and as well playing in Holland, travel back after each match.

what do you know about contributions to a team, you think is easy to boast 67 caps for a national team at 25 years. how many Nigeria players have 2 worldcup goals to there name, Musa started all the world 2014 qualifier games.

Bros you must not fly at night to be called a wizard or witch, to be happy about your follow man downfall can make you one

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:48am On Apr 11, 2018
edi287:

Looks like Rohr sees him as an option at CF. I'm resigned to the guy going to WC. Onyekuru, Kalu have been better than him for 2 years now.

The main reason why England national team is not doing well is because they go for any player that did way prior to the call up, every national team should have it core players and gently inject in new players gradually.

Musa is part of the core super eagles player, his the assistant captain, he has worldcup experience and for other non footballing reason like playing in Russia for some years will make the worldcup team if his injury free and can get some game time

In the last worldcup player like podolski was called up and was even starting games for Germany even after having a poor season with arsenal, because he was part of the core Germany team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:08am On Apr 11, 2018
Martz101:


The main reason why England national team is not doing well is because they go for any player that did way prior to the call up, every national team should have it core players and gently inject in new players gradually.

Musa is part of the core super eagles player, his the assistant captain, he has worldcup experience and for other non footballing reason like playing in Russia for some years will make the worldcup team if his injury free and can get some game time

In the last worldcup player like podolski was called up and was even starting games for Germany even after having a poor season with arsenal, because he was part of the core Germany team.


Your first paragraph is not true but I got your message

Your last paragraph is not to protect the 'so called core' but lack of better options,,,,, All the same

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:09am On Apr 11, 2018
Martz101:


The main reason why England national team is not doing well is because they go for any player that did way prior to the call up, every national team should have it core players and gently inject in new players gradually.

Musa is part of the core super eagles player, his the assistant captain, he has worldcup experience and for other non footballing reason like playing in Russia for some years will make the worldcup team if his injury free and can get some game time

In the last worldcup player like podolski was called up and was even starting games for Germany even after having a poor season with arsenal, because he was part of the core Germany team.


Podolski was productive unlike MUSA case,it seems u re not getting d point

Even as error prone as efe ambrose is,he has contributed more to d team Dan MUSA smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:19am On Apr 11, 2018
Martz101:


The main reason why England national team is not doing well is because they go for any player that did way prior to the call up, every national team should have it core players and gently inject in new players gradually.

Musa is part of the core super eagles player, his the assistant captain, he has worldcup experience and for other non footballing reason like playing in Russia for some years will make the worldcup team if his injury free and can get some game time

In the last worldcup player like podolski was called up and was even starting games for Germany even after having a poor season with arsenal, because he was part of the core Germany team.

I respect what Musa has done for Nigeria in the past. I do not think it is right to dismiss all that he has done.

However, if there are players that can contribute more than what musa can contribute right now, then they should be given a chance to prove it. This is why Rohr's March list was a disappointment, it should have been used as a chance to test some probables. Musa is no longer at the top of his game.

England performances have nothing to do with "core players". England has always had core players... Germany went to the confederations cup with a totally brand new team and won it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 11:21am On Apr 11, 2018
Martz101:


The main reason why England national team is not doing well is because they go for any player that did way prior to the call up, every national team should have it core players and gently inject in new players gradually.

Musa is part of the core super eagles player, his the assistant captain, he has worldcup experience and for other non footballing reason like playing in Russia for some years will make the worldcup team if his injury free and can get some game time

In the last worldcup player like podolski was called up and was even starting games for Germany even after having a poor season with arsenal, because he was part of the core Germany team.

Oga, musa is not a reliable person to give u goals when u need them, honestly he has enjoyed more call up than most people in super eagles and dont know the reason why.

We have to look at his contributions so far and honestly I cant think of one except 2014 worldcup and only the argentine game. That guy need to give way for new players cos he definitely is not adding any value to the team right now.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:22am On Apr 11, 2018
elyte89:

Podolski was productive unlike MUSA case,it seems u re not getting d point

Even as error prone as efe ambrose is,he has contributed more to d team Dan MUSA smiley

Wrong,

Musa for long spells, was Nigeria's best and most dangerous player..

I do not like the disrespect been shown to him. He might not be at his peak now but his efforts should be appreciated.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:25am On Apr 11, 2018
So, because Musa has 2 world cup goals from 2014, he cannot be dropped in 2018? undecided

Pesin go just dey read funny submissions on this thread

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 11:25am On Apr 11, 2018
tbaba1234:


I respect what Musa has done for Nigeria in the past. I do not think it is right to dismiss all that he has done.

However, if there are players that can contribute more than what musa can contribute right now, then they should be given a chance to prove it. This is why Rohr's March list was a disappointment, it should have been used as a chance to test some probables. Musa is no longer at the top of his game.

England performances have nothing to do with "core players". England has always had core players... Germany went to the confederations cup with a totally brand new team and won it.




The issue here is that there are so many players that can play that musa role right now but av not been called up or tested. If we consider playing him as a CF then we will have to look at his conversion ratio which is poor.

Abeg musa has to give way here.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:30am On Apr 11, 2018
So disappointed by Nigeria in the commonwealth games. We need to do better.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:55am On Apr 11, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
So disappointed by Nigeria in the commonwealth games. We need to do better.

I was checking the results, India beating us in Boxing, South Africa beating us in sprints... very disappointing

We need a focused long-term sports plan, otherwise we are in trouble.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 12:00pm On Apr 11, 2018
Thank you. I decided to ignore some comments here on Musa because most lack objectivity.
tbaba1234:


Wrong,

Musa for long spells, was Nigeria's best and most dangerous player..

I do not like the disrespect been shown to him. He might not be at his peak now but his efforts should be appreciated.

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