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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:10pm On Apr 13, 2018
gabbytabby:
Oga me feet or meters.


Approximately 10 feet on the sides, I like 12 feet, and 20 feet in the front.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 10:17pm On Apr 13, 2018
pls can some one show me where the calculation for duplex decking was shared, so one can calculate the materials and cost required i recall seeing something like that a while ago. that is granite, sand, cement...and maybe iron rods..i recall its a case of vol x decking thickness,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 10:20pm On Apr 13, 2018
EgunMogaji:


Approximately 10 feet on the sides, I like 12 feet, and 20 feet in the front.

Minimum. Of 3metre 10feet on the sides and the back and 6metre 20ft in front . That is the general rule but there are exceptions GRA and medium desnsity areas are 4 5on the sides and the Back and 9metres in front.
CBD can be as low as 1.5m on the sides and 3metres in from (here caution is taken such that u must not develop more than 50percent of your site.)
Finally corner piece lots have 6metres on both sides facing the road and 3metres on the two other sides.
But note most of this are dearly adhered to.
God will help us in Naija

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 10:24pm On Apr 13, 2018
gabbytabby:
Oga me feet or meters.


It is feet
More like, sides 3m ( 10ft)
Back, 3m (10ft)
Front, 6m (20ft)

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:30pm On Apr 13, 2018
earthrealm:
pls can some one show me where the calculation for duplex decking was shared, so one can calculate the materials and cost required i recall seeing something like that a while ago

If you find it please share here so that I can add it to the FAQ/Library thread at https://www.nairaland.com/4450586/property-section-library

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:36pm On Apr 13, 2018
Dominionng:


Oh! Of course there is a logical reason sir.
When wall tiles is fixed before POP ceiling, then you need to break the tiles above the ceiling line, or at least all the points where the POP mesh will meet the wall. And with that, there is a high chance of cracked tiles below the ceiling line.
So, why waste money, time and energy when you can have your tiles neatly done after your POP ceiling.


I have about 3 buildings/sites where I have done it that way.
My POP installer did not crack the wall tiles.
I guess my installer works differently.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 10:41pm On Apr 13, 2018
bixton:



I have about 3 buildings/sites where I have done it that way.
My POP installer did not crack the wall tiles.
I guess my installer works differently.
Beacause some people drive right hand cars in Nigeria does not make it right.
After all all men are still driving cars.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:42pm On Apr 13, 2018
akinolaolujide:

There are pop is a very messy process except you are having it precast y do u want to spend funds cleaning a well done tiling Job or even just preventing pop from getting to it .
Also the scaffold employed by the Pop guys may end up spoiling th tiles. So why take that risk

There are no floor tiles yet to be done.
Walls tiles comes up first in all toilets, kitchen and my POP installer gets to work.
Tiller will work completely afterwards on the floor.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 10:48pm On Apr 13, 2018
bixton:


There are no floor tiles yet to be done.
Walls tiles comes up first in all toilets, kitchen and my POP installer gets to work.
Tiller will work completely afterwards on the floor.

It's your project and your taste and your decision all am saying is it's not construction best practice .

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:49pm On Apr 13, 2018
akinolaolujide:

Beacause some people drive right hand cars in Nigeria does not make it right.
After all all men are still driving cars.

If they have broken a law then it's not enforceable.

I have broken none. And my client does not spend more than the usual known price.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:58pm On Apr 13, 2018
akinolaolujide:

It's your project and your taste and your decision all am saying is it's not construction beat practice .


Is there a guideline handbook for best practice?

Get 5 Engineers and 5 Architects from different countries and seek their opinions on certain things as regarding building construction then you have a debate.

Certain things we ascribe to are nothing but myths.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 12:15am On Apr 14, 2018
In other news....where is Brabus of Nexthome?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 12:28am On Apr 14, 2018
3strikes:
In other news....where is Brabus of Nexthome?
you have a contract for him?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 12:43am On Apr 14, 2018
Me ke?.....i just missed seeing those pictures of "De Chateau" and other packaging.

Btw...When it comes to packaging, I give it to Brabus.




gabbytabby:
you have a contract for him?


M

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 1:01am On Apr 14, 2018
3strikes:
In other news....where is Brabus of Nexthome?

Please.. let's all forget about Brabus.
Any post trying to bring back Brabus ruckus again will be deleted. Thank you.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 1:14am On Apr 14, 2018
Hajji, Am not trying to bring back anything about Brabus o...Just that i missed some of these picture.... especially De chateau.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 1:35am On Apr 14, 2018
3strikes:
Hajji, Am not trying to bring back anything about Brabus o...Just that i missed some of these picture.... especially De chateau.

Why? The Chateau built with peoples sweat, including yours. NOT o.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 6:21am On Apr 14, 2018
God bless you!

It appears too many aspect of building is subject to personal preference of the builder/engineer. Maybe the minimum standard requirement are clearly known but they choose different methods. Maybe not.

You don't even need to select from different countries to see the inconsistency because in such case the building codes may differ.

Get 3 (or 5 in your example) of the "top" builders from this forum alone, hand them exactly the same building plan to execute, same land, same design, same building code, same everything and you will see the results and debate ensue;

- One will use mix ratio 1:2:3 while another will say 2:4:3 for the same stage.
- Some will say wire mesh prevents concrete cracking, yet others will say otherwise.
- You will see significant difference is iron rod size and qty recommendations
- You are likely to see sharp sand vs laterite for foundation
- Finishing stage order too is always subject to personal: tiles, POP, doors/windows frame, electrical, plumbing etc. order of installation will likely not be same for the builders.

I know some will say "there are different ways to skin a cat" bla bla. Yes true, but this is supposed to be engineering. While there may be many solutions to a particular problem, there is only one optimal solution.

In solving complex problems in business, engineering and other fields in general, even when they say there are no right or wrong answers, there is still that particular solution which fulfills your objective more than the others. That is the optimum solution that we should always strive for. In this case,the building codes and industry practice should serve as a guide to minimum acceptable standard, but there should not be so much variation in methodology like we see.

Way too many myth have been adopted as standard practice.

bixton:



Is there a guideline handbook for best practice?

Get 5 Engineers and 5 Architects from different countries and seek their opinions on certain things as regarding building construction then you have a debate.

Certain things we ascribe to are nothing but myths.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:34am On Apr 14, 2018
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 8:12am On Apr 14, 2018
bixton:



I have about 3 buildings/sites where I have done it that way.
My POP installer did not crack the wall tiles.
I guess my installer works differently.

You did a full wall tiles before POP ceiling and your installer didn't crack the tiles before he installed the ceiling? i.e the ceiling was tied to the noggin alone without the wall? Kindly keep his contact for you will need him for repairs. This is not a drill sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 8:50am On Apr 14, 2018
bixton:


If they have broken a law then it's not enforceable.

I have broken none. And my client does not spend more than the usual known price.

Please your client will spend more, and that is all the wasted wall tiles above the ceiling line.

This has nothing to do with doing things differently. I'm an advocate of alternative ways in construction and interiors, but POP ceiling being hanged to the noggin without support on the wall is TOTALLY wrong. Little vibration then you start noticing gaps at the edges of ceiling.
Its like installing precast POP ceiling under a 4x4 noggin because "I want to do things differently".

megacontrol:

I know some will say "there are different ways to skin a cat" bla bla. Yes true, but this is supposed to be engineering. While there may be many solutions to a particular problem, there is only one optimal solution

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:07am On Apr 14, 2018
Dominionng:


You did a full wall tiles before POP ceiling and your installer didn't crack the tiles before he installed the ceiling? i.e the ceiling was tied to the noggin alone without the wall? Kindly keep his contact for you will need him for repairs. This is not a drill sir.

The first of such builds I did that was in 2014.
If any of such happens the client will definitely contact me.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 11:54am On Apr 14, 2018
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Is there a guideline handbook for best practice?

Get 5 Engineers and 5 Architects from different countries and seek their opinions on certain things as regarding building construction then you have a debate.

Certain things we ascribe to are nothing but myths.

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Best practices are location based for a lot of factors affect this for instance even with Nigeria how you build in bayelsa is not how u build in sokoto. At least a lot of us here have examples.
But all things said does not mean u will place a superstructure first before the building substructure at least we don't have dat tech yet. (In Egunmogaji's voice). That is what I mean by construction best practice .
Please note it varies depending on the type and scope of the project you are engaged in.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 12:18pm On Apr 14, 2018
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Barryton: 2:24pm On Apr 14, 2018
bixton:


The first of such builds I did that was in 2014.
If any of such happens the client will definitely contact me.
Did u fix the cornice on the wall tiles?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 3:14pm On Apr 14, 2018
Barryton:

Did u fix the cornice on the wall tiles?
lol that even look impossible

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Barryton: 3:18pm On Apr 14, 2018
twinskenny:
lol that even look impossible
Because wall tiles are slippery, will it bind properly?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Frankgoz(m): 4:41pm On Apr 14, 2018
Ashiru:
Hello Architects and Builders in the house. Can 3 blocks of 4 bedroom Terrance duplex comfortably enter into a plot of 100ft by 60ft with enough packing space. The rooms must be standard room.
I need your advise.Thanks

You might want to consider 2 terraces instead. 3 will be crowded for your plot, depending on location some estates may not allow a built up area exceeding 70%. Which applies here with 3 terraces. Anyways with a good architect like mine you can achieve that.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Frankgoz(m): 4:59pm On Apr 14, 2018
megacontrol:
There seem to be no consistent practice to this sand filling thing. tends to change depending on who you speak to, even the Engr/builders sometimes have different opinions.

Trying to sand fill a location for a project starting soon, max 3months, so they recommend sharp sand due to the short time. Then I find out there’s different sharp sand.

Questions:

(A) Can we use the white “sharp” sand being reclaimed from dredging activities? Since this may likely come cheaper, any downside? Will same settling be achieved with compaction?

(B) the other coloured coarse sharp sand. Is it true this soaks more water and therefore will require less volume to fill same area when compared to (a) above?

(C) Can both types of sharp sand be mixed? Can we use a combination of both? Any effect?
Since I understand sometimes clients can’t even tell the difference anyway, so might be happening a lot.

One thing I’ve agreed on is that the red filling sand is not an option due to the short period, but I’ll like clarity on the sharp sand characteristics and suitability.

Foundation type is Pile.

Thanks


Soil has varying engineering properties which are best determined in a soil labouratory. However from practice and experience, sharp sand is more densely packed. Which is a good 'property', compacting this to maximum dry density wil yield a very good result. U wil definitely achieve a uniform consolidation and settlement.

I recommend sharp sand. Plz in no way shud you consider mixing with another sand if ur aim is to achieve a uniform settlement.


However for question (B) ........the more the coarse the more volume you require. The soil will shrink considerably after compaction
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 5:19pm On Apr 14, 2018
abdulwastecx:


Minimum of 3m by the sides, back and 6m at the front
What does that mean? are you referring to time on slop wet land or compartment time or depth?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 5:48pm On Apr 14, 2018
kopell:
What does that mean? are you referring to time on slop wet land or compartment time or depth?
He means setback i.e distance from fence or line of plot to the main building. 3meters from each side and 6meters from the front
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 6:04pm On Apr 14, 2018
spyder880:


Good morning Oga, there's nothing wrong with filling a foundation with laterite sand, but the right compaction methods must be employed to sink in the soil into all foundation crevices while achieving a compaction method which must ensure that the filling is strong enough to support the floor. Compaction of laterite filling should be done in stages, every 300mm thickness. Problem comes when people are in a hurry, and so ignore the right compaction methods. I am happy you left your filling for some time to sink better.

On the other hand, the white sharp sand which are got from the rivers serve as a better filling material. The cleaner the sand, the better. The filling sand could be coarse too. This material may not sink much under compaction but fills in more crevices and bears much more weight. The other type of sharp sand he mentioned is not clear to me, so I prefer river sharp sand.

I also know that the right materials and right procedures are most times contained in the building plans, which are site specific. The guy who prepares the building plans should visit the site and pass recommendation on the right materials and process, including type of filling sand.
Sypder over the year you have made tromenduce contribution to this thread form explaining through picturing. When people like you and other professionals in the house talk we listen. From your experience, which of the filling system is more affordable and durable, that can be recommended for water logged areas. Between the sharp sand and laterite filling, this question is not particular to Sypder only but can be answered by other professionals like Eng Aventure, Eng Abdulwastecx, Eng Afolabi, Architect Jude, Native doctor Egun, lol ha ha ha and many others that I can't remember their names, to please explain in full details. Most of these names has been around here for long, they are familiar with almost any terrain missioned above that's why I'm directing the question to them

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