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Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 10:12pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: so what you are saying is that the "GOD" in your Op is different from Yahweh ? |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:13pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
superhumanist: Is God as you refer to existing on this plain of our universe as a scientifically observable entity? If yes then your statement is correct but if no then you are simply being your usual dumb self |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:14pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: What I am saying is God is the uncaused cause. I know you want me to separate them into what you can argue from but sorry my OP denies you that right and so do i |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:15pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: Sorry but science already declared that the universe has a beginning. So your ignorant declaration falls flat |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:16pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Is their no atheist who can refute the OP? |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 10:26pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:well I guess that is what your guilty conscience is telling you but I will let you off the hook,I will play by your rules,I will only mention "God" and not Yahweh or Allah now first off,since you claim "God" created the universe,you mind telling us how and how long he did it ?,backing that up with a few evidences would help |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 10:28pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: and since science does not acknowledge that "God" is the uncaused cause you are equally ignorant and your declaration falls flat |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:29pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: Sorry but this thread is not about HOW but a simple analytical presentation using science on how the argument from causality and motion and gravity support intelligent, deliberate, purposeful origins unlike the chaotic origins being touted by science. |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:30pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: Well you cannot speak for yourself because if you do, you would sound even more stupid as an atheist. This is because atheism thrives on empirical evidence and proofs to what they assert and in this case, science offers the much needed proof atheists cling to and science has shown that the universe has a beginning and isn't eternal. |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 10:31pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:I stand by the big bang. My discussion with vaxx was me trying to point out that since vaxx doesn't believe infinite regression then to him there must be an uncaused caused who either came out of nothing or has always been there from the beginning. If he has no problem believing that, will he have a problem believing that the universe is the uncaused cause? Mtewwwwwww |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 10:32pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:I refuted your first proof using the knowledge of gravity. |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 10:33pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: can you describe how "God" created the universe ? if you can go ahead,if not admit so,I am not going with this rubbish excuses |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 10:34pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: I modified the post you quoted check it out |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:37pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Martinez19: Why are you lying? You cannot argue from both sides of your mouth over one thing. You cannot talk about the big bang with me and then turn around to present an eternal universe to vaxx even if vaxx was thinking along those lines. You are meant to stick with your argument. It shows you are being intellectually dishonest and do not even know anything you are presenting but simply wish to just type. There is an uncaused cause and a very intelligent one at that because infinite regression is nullified scientifically when it comes to the origin of the universe and even you support that the universe has an origin since you say you believe in the big bang. Did this beginning of the universe trigger itself? NO How do I know this? The law of cause and effect confirms it. There can be no cause without effect and no effect without a cause. Unintelligence cannot birth intelligence. Inanimate objects cannot create motion, sequence, order, calculated actions. Deny this and deny science. |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:38pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: I can but choose not to because that is not the purpose of the OP so you can stop trying to derail |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:39pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: Dummy. Science is based on empirical proofs limited to this universe. God exists OUTSIDE our universe which is why he is called THE UNCAUSED CAUSE AND THE IMMUTABLE MOVER. |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:40pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Martinez19: You didn't not even scratch it |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Dalam0n: 10:46pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
So this deluded OP has scientific proof of God's existence, and he hasn't presented it to the scientific community and won a Nobel prize for it abi? No wonder they say religion makes people mentally ill. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by frank317: 10:51pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: U confidently make this statement but funny enough when comes to the creator which u have never seen before u make an exception. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 10:51pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:I am not intellectually dishonest, you are. I admit, even before vaxx, that I believe the big bang. You distort arguments so much. |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Martinez19(m): 10:52pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
frank317:He is a joker |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:53pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Dalam0n: Actually religion has made me more intelligent than you and able to grasp scientific stuff with ease. Something you clearly lack especially since you have made no single scientific rebuttal to any of the 3 proofs I dropped. I am sure if this thread was about Yahweh you would be writing your usual long epistles. Thanks for taking several seats as I adviced to the scientifically ignorant |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 10:53pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:alright in the same way,I can disprove your post but choose not to since you wouldn't answer my question |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:54pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Martinez19: Show me where I distorted them? Did you not speak from both sides of your mouth? |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:54pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: Then take several seats and shut up |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:56pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
frank317: It is obvious that every single one of you atheists drink from the same cup of idiocy. So I will post the same response I gave to darkchild when he made the very same silly comment as yours. Dummy. Science is based on empirical proofs limited to this universe. God exists OUTSIDE our universe which is why he is called THE UNCAUSED CAUSE AND THE IMMUTABLE MOVER. That should sort out your problem |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 10:56pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:that is your business as long as you claim that "God" is the UNCAUSED CAUSE ,I choose to claim that the universe is the UNCAUSED CAUSED,disprove my statement or prove yours,if not yours is not more authentic than mine 1 Like |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:57pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64: Go ahead then. I am not stopping you am I? Especially since science already stopped you 50+ years ago when it debunked the eternal universe hypothesis. I guess you are still old school |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 10:58pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:because you are the owner of nairaland or because you are a mod ? |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Butterflyleo: 10:58pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Is there no atheist who can refute the OP? |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by Nobody: 11:01pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: what is this one saying,both of us made claims,you are pointing out that the one I made was disclaimed by science while yours was not even a topic because it was too ridiculous to be brought out,give me a proof that your assertion is right and mine wrong and you are busy saying science this science that,after you would be the one calling another person names |
Re: Proof Of God. Scientifically Derived. by frank317: 11:01pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
vaxx: If infinite regression is impossible, why then do Christians insist that every creation MUST have a creator? Why do they insist that every driver must have a superior who he must take permission from |
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