Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:07am On Apr 15, 2018 |
England u21 during the international break
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:20am On Apr 15, 2018 |
Humility017:
I was so happy today that conte benched him... it's like him playing for Chelsea Fc has gotten to his head....whenever He is in the super eagles he plays with his shoulder high wanna take all the dead balls and keep dribbling even when not necessary and often don't pass the ball.....
he is seriously wasting our free kicks.... I will be so happy if kalu Samuel can be invited to at least compete with him in that wing role..... he deserves to sit on the bench sometimes... Sir are you reffering to VICTOR MOSES or who Pls forget it Victor is the real man in eagles though he can be erratic sometimes. Sir,Samuel Kalu to compete with Moses?pls moses deserves more respect. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 9:22am On Apr 15, 2018 |
OMANBALA1:
First of you should be grossly ashamed of yourself if indeed you are Igbo because you dont know a danm thing about Igbo history neither the one of the Bini people. I dont want to delve into who Bini influenced because it will turn to a mockery in this thread. Let me just say that the exaggeration of Bini Kingdom is not just shocking but pathetic and miserable.
Since you want to go there with me lets get it on...The influence Bini has on Onitsha is not up to 1% of Onicha culture...Other than the monarchy system Onicha probably borrowed from them and few titles like Iyasele, Osodi and very minor others what else? Onicha culture is 99% Omanbala influenced starting from ancient practices like masqurades, chants, title systems like Nze na Ozo, Nze na Ozo noble dance like ufie, egwu ota the Obi dances during Ofala, ancient shrines like Ogwugwu Omena the one Afam Ogbotobo sings about. Igba Odu /Ivory title an Omanbala cultural item. You are shamelessly ignorant and unintelligent ,my nigga. I hate talking to inferiors!
And what attire are you talking about ? Your Bini people just started wearing Nze na Ozo red hat introduced by Aguleri chiefs in the 18th century. You nobi only Igbo ,you be Eze Nri! Obi of Onicha never dressed anything like Oba of Bini, meanwhile your Oba and his chiefs copied cassocks introduced by the Portuguesse Rev. Farthers when they arrived during exploration. Dont let me tell you who is your true father, akali ogoli! Defensive for what? Your want me to shut up so you can insult my race.
Osita short for Ositadimma means it shall be well with you going forward. Olisadebe means may God preserve. Morka, Modu ,Mordi all has something in common ,muo a guiding spirit. Anioma people have a beautiful and strong culture and there are some names indigenous to them ,Ogude is one. Odiah is a typical Igbo name. Look, you cant just jump in here making unfounded claims with your neo-edonization and think you wont be kicked into gutter. Igbo man my left yansh! We see everything you are doing in your little closed facebook page. Bini wey no reach 20,000 in 17th century. Biafran war has dealt a disaster to the Igbo race! If not you will be cleaned out by little groups from Anioma! this has always been the down fall of Nigeria. tribe and culture 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:24am On Apr 15, 2018 |
isan: Tosin kehinde in action man u u23 The guy is good cos have watched him,hope he keep on with his development and turns out for Nigeria. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:26am On Apr 15, 2018 |
yes I think we should have killed it at that point.. I tried to do that but I wasn't direct enough. Kog45: Thank you.I think we should stop saying a player is from particular part of the country,for God sake why saying a player is from Okija,what is our business with that,how many players do we know their states of origin talk less of villages. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:33am On Apr 15, 2018 |
Joebie: yes I think we should have killed it at that point.. I tried to do that but I wasn't direct enough.
Yes i saw that your wise comment. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:39am On Apr 15, 2018 |
OMANBALA1:
First of you should be grossly ashamed of yourself if indeed you are Igbo because you dont know a danm thing about Igbo history neither the one of the Bini people. I dont want to delve into who Bini influenced because it will turn to a mockery in this thread. Let me just say that the exaggeration of Bini Kingdom is not just shocking but pathetic and miserable.
Since you want to go there with me lets get it on...The influence Bini has on Onitsha is not up to 1% of Onicha culture...Other than the monarchy system Onicha probably borrowed from them and few titles like Iyasele, Osodi and very minor others what else? Onicha culture is 99% Omanbala influenced starting from ancient practices like masqurades, chants, title systems like Nze na Ozo, Nze na Ozo noble dance like ufie, egwu ota the Obi dances during Ofala, ancient shrines like Ogwugwu Omena the one Afam Ogbotobo sings about. Igba Odu /Ivory title an Omanbala cultural item. You are shamelessly ignorant and unintelligent ,my nigga. I hate talking to inferiors!
And what attire are you talking about ? Your Bini people just started wearing Nze na Ozo red hat introduced by Aguleri chiefs in the 18th century. You nobi only Igbo ,you be Eze Nri! Obi of Onicha never dressed anything like Oba of Bini, meanwhile your Oba and his chiefs copied cassocks introduced by the Portuguesse Rev. Farthers when they arrived during exploration. Dont let me tell you who is your true father, akali ogoli! Defensive for what? Your want me to shut up so you can insult my race.
Osita short for Ositadimma means it shall be well with you going forward. Olisadebe means may God preserve. Morka, Modu ,Mordi all has something in common ,muo a guiding spirit. Anioma people have a beautiful and strong culture and there are some names indigenous to them ,Ogude is one. Odiah is a typical Igbo name. Look, you cant just jump in here making unfounded claims with your neo-edonization and think you wont be kicked into gutter. Igbo man my left yansh! We see everything you are doing in your little closed facebook page. Bini wey no reach 20,000 in 17th century. Biafran war has dealt a disaster to the Igbo race! If not you will be cleaned out by little groups from Anioma! My friend calm down, you dont need such hate speech and insult, now to the festival our "Ofala" was influenced by the IGUA festival, you can investigate on that in your spare time. for the kingship system, the western Igbo practice very similar one with the benin people, where royal family are recognised, I'm sure you've had about the saying "igbo ewe eze" it means igbo dont have kings but it only apply To the heartland igbo area which include the imo, abia and some part of ebonyi. You tried translating the names I listed which even made you look more confused OLISAdebe you said means God preserve but you forgot to tell us that OLISA is a benin word for God, we all know what igbo call God, and in imo or abia that name should be CHIdebe or CHUKWUdebe. Bros onitsha was not the only region greatly influence by the great benin empire, present day rivers, delta, bayelsa, ondo, ekiti and even lagos was influence too. So lets stop derailing this thread, but if you really wanna talk more about it, we could continue probably via WhatsApp |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:41am On Apr 15, 2018 |
Torino Midfielder Joel Obi: I Rejected Italian National Team To Play For Nigeria
Published: April 14, 2018
Torino Midfielder Joel Obi: I Rejected Italian National Team To Play For NigeriaTorino attacking midfielder Joel Obi has revealed that he rejected an approach to play for Italy at international level as he wanted to represent Nigeria where he was born.
Five years after turning down the Italian Football Federation request, Obi was handed his Super Eagles debut by Samson Siasia in the national team's 2-1 win over Sierra Leone at the National Stadium in Lagos in February 2011.
''With my family we try to speak Igbo at home but I prefer speaking Italian. When I get to Nigeria I speak broken English and with my Igbo friends I prefer to speak Igbo,'' Obi told Kwese Sports.
''All my life, style was in Italian football. When I was 14 or 15 years, I had the opportunity to play for the Italian youth team but I waited because I believe I am from Nigeria and I have to play for my fatherland.
''Finally I got the call from the Super Eagles and I was very happy. I was only focused on Nigerian national team.''
Obi was recalled to the national team after a four-year absence for the pre-World Cup friendlies against Poland and Serbia last month and was named in the starting line-up for both matches.
Ifeanyi Emmanuel 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:41am On Apr 15, 2018 |
Humility017:
your problem is you think every disapproval of his actions in GwG is hating.... why should I hate him...? if rohr really approves of it....it goes to tell ..the coach still hasn't learnt his lessons... I pity him...because there will always be matches where well delivered free kicks gonna be decisive.
only a clueless coach wil not entrust players like nancho to play some of the free kicks after his awesome play against Argentina....and for a player like Moses Simon who sometimes plays that for his club.... I am a Chelsea fan but sentiments aside Moses is not good wit delivery of free kicks
Roger that gaffer ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) I guess u gon take over from rohr after the worldcup mundial so u can entrust ur nacho with the freekicks and set pieces. . But meanwhile for the time been Vic Moses remains our set piece taker and nothing we say gon change that ![tongue](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/tongue.png) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:43am On Apr 15, 2018 |
Kog45: Sir are you reffering to VICTOR MOSES or who
Pls forget it Victor is the real man in eagles though he can be erratic sometimes.
Sir,Samuel Kalu to compete with Moses?pls moses deserves more respect.
that nigg' must have been sleeping on a moving wheel barrow ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:45am On Apr 15, 2018 |
"stop derailing the thread" and u dey add to the derailing.. are u not encouraging this discussion.. you guys should believe what u want to believe as regards those empires. if u need clarification go to the tribal threads. let's just focus on football here. Martz101:
My friend calm down, you dont need such hate speech and insult, now to the festival our "Ofala" was influenced by the IGUA festival, you can investigate on that in your spare time.
for the kingship system, the western Igbo practice very similar one with the benin people, where royal family are recognised, I'm sure you've had about the saying "igbo ewe eze" it means igbo dont have kings but it only apply To the heartland igbo area which include the imo, abia and some part of ebonyi.
You tried translating the names I listed which even made you look more confused OLISAdebe you said means God preserve but you forgot to tell us that OLISA is a benin word for God, we all know what igbo call God, and in imo or abia that name should be CHIdebe or CHUKWUdebe.
Bros onitsha was not the only region greatly influence by the great benin empire, present day rivers, delta, bayelsa, ondo, ekiti and even lagos was influence too.
So lets stop derailing this thread, but if you really wanna talk more about it, we could continue probably via WhatsApp
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 9:45am On Apr 15, 2018 |
Martz101:
My friend calm down, you dont need such hate speech and insult, now to the festival our "Ofala" was influenced by the IGUA festival, you can investigate on that in your spare time.
for the kingship system, the western Igbo practice very similar one with the benin people, where royal family are recognised, I'm sure you've had about the saying "igbo ewe eze" it means igbo dont have kings but it only apply To the heartland igbo area which include the imo, abia and some part of ebonyi.
You tried translating the names I listed which even made you look more confused OLISAdebe you said means God preserve but you forgot to tell us that OLISA is a benin word for God, we all know what igbo call God, and in imo or abia that name should be CHIdebe or CHUKWUdebe.
Bros onitsha was not the only region greatly influence by the great benin empire, present day rivers, delta, bayelsa, ondo, ekiti and even lagos was influence too.
So lets stop derailing this thread, but if you really wanna talk more about it, we could continue probably via WhatsApp
no bro, continue the talk here.. I dey enjoy am lol. Great Benin Kingdom!! The land of igodomigodo!!. Proudly bini dude!. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:47am On Apr 15, 2018 |
Guys..the nff has moved an inch forward of a good reputation for our league.. The matches highlights are now available on YouTube. . I mean every match played.. Shortcut: follow nff on Facebook and the rest is history ![cool](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cool.png) 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 9:59am On Apr 15, 2018 |
safarigirl: Omanbala is the last person you want to drag Igbo history with, forget what you think you know, he will FLOOR you
Meanwhile, I want to correct an erroneous claim in your post. Historically, the Igbo ethnic group does not run a monarchy system of government.
The only thing that brought about Obi and all the other titles was colonialism. When the whites came, they found the Igbo system of government difficult to control because there was no central government, unlike what obtained in Yoruba land (Oba) and thr North (Emirs and Sultan) so, they installed a monarch, with whom they could relate with the people.
So, that claim that Benin influenced monarchy in Igbo land is ludicrous, especially considering that even till this day, most Igbos couldn't give two shiits about any Obi of anywhere.
Let me now leave you to Omanbala....you dey even use Azikiwe as example . Make correct Igbo people no catch you dey use Azikiwe as example when talking about Igbo men, that is like using Rochas as example today. To start with your first paragraph, erase such mindset, it wont take you anywhere, rule number one never believe someone idea is better than yours just because of who they are. Now you are actually right by the fact that igbo dont have kings but the western Igbo do have, Obi onitsha kingship started 1550, Eze Chima was the first and we already have 18 ezes already, the white men didn't start the obi monarchy for anambra people, they only felt more comfortable dealing with people with good monarchy. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 10:07am On Apr 15, 2018 |
safarigirl: Omanbala is the last person you want to drag Igbo history with, forget what you think you know, he will FLOOR you
Meanwhile, I want to correct an erroneous claim in your post. Historically, the Igbo ethnic group does not run a monarchy system of government.
The only thing that brought about Obi and all the other titles was colonialism. When the whites came, they found the Igbo system of government difficult to control because there was no central government, unlike what obtained in Yoruba land (Oba) and thr North (Emirs and Sultan) so, they installed a monarch, with whom they could relate with the people.
So, that claim that Benin influenced monarchy in Igbo land is ludicrous, especially considering that even till this day, most Igbos couldn't give two shiits about any Obi of anywhere.
Let me now leave you to Omanbala....you dey even use Azikiwe as example . Make correct Igbo people no catch you dey use Azikiwe as example when talking about Igbo men, that is like using Rochas as example today. the guy got his ass floored by prolog2. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:51am On Apr 15, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Awaziem took a direct free kick today that needed a great save from the keeper. It is interesting to see that Ranieri trusts Awaziem enough to take free kicks. He must be taking good free kicks in training.
In the Super Eagles, Victor Moses seems to have been given the role automatically. And automatically he squanders it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:17am On Apr 15, 2018 |
Kog45: Sir are you reffering to VICTOR MOSES or who
Pls forget it Victor is the real man in eagles though he can be erratic sometimes.
Sir,Samuel Kalu to compete with Moses?pls moses deserves more respect.
You dey mind that guy,him dey happy say conte bench moses,Moses is tired and he rested him,I don't see zapacosta taking his spot. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:29am On Apr 15, 2018 |
tbaba1234:
Historically, the Benin kingdom was actually very powerful. Some of the narrations about it are actually quite outstanding. At the height of its prowess, it was a mighty empire.
That said, cultures influence each other, it is part of life. Do you know there are so many words in the English language that are derived from other languages?
Do you know that several spanish words are borrowed from Arabic?
It is a normal part of life.. I am certain that some of benin culture was also influenced by neighbouring cultures. Our languages and civilizations are closer than you'd imagine.
There is no need to start debate over things that happened more than 500 years ago.
Me I don't understand the sweat and heat just because someone said that the Bini Kingdom influenced parts of Igboland. Even as non Binis we all read about the powerful Bini Kingdom.( And I'm proud of it. I dey proud of Shaka the Zulu and Imhotep the Egyptian who is recorded as being the first multi genius as I well take pride in the whole of Egyptian cultural advancement, na Bini I no go come take pride in just because na my neighbour abi?) Is this totally impossible that both cultures influenced each other given the fact of the proximity between Bini and Igboland? Is it not possible that cultural cross currents between both people could have taken place in the past? Now let me amplify the point you made at the bolded Just yesterday I was reading in a magazine that the coronation of the Obi of Onitsha is not complete without the emissaries of the Attah of Igala. So if I said igala influenced parts of Igboland (and actually we the Igalas are geographically contiguous with some parts of Igboland. some igala communities are indigenous to Anambra state sef, I never knew until the Nnamdi Kanu saga last year and I was pleased to learn so) The Ejubejuailo (The Ata’s pectoral Mask) is said to be gotten from the Binis. We call coconut Uno'oba meaning the coconut of the Oba of Bini possibly because the coconut came to igala land from Bini. Igalas have kin relationship with Asaba people, Yoruba (we are so linguistically close to the Yorubas) Nupe, Jukun and Igbirra people. All these cultures, must have influenced each other. Queen Amina of Zaria died in igala land during one of her military expeditions. Imagine Zaria to igala land 500 years ago! Igalas were at one time paying tribute to the Jukuns. It is even said that the only woman to ever sit on the throne as Attah of Igala was a Jukun Princess. Sometimes I wonder how all these could be considering that the Jukuns are in far away Taraba. But thats the history. so that Onitsha has communities between it and Bini does not make it impossible that Bini influenced Onitsha. And who says that Onitsha too could possibly not have influenced Bini? Why the frothing almost wounded sensitivity to such an assertion as made by Martz101?. For me it's even a good thing that contrary to what many think our people were relating culturally, economically and linguistically long before the white man came. This much has been established by the historiographical works of people like Professor E. J Alagoa who showed how the communities in the Niger Delta were relating in commerce, culture and politics before the white man came. And then Professor Abdullahi Smith of A. B. U Zaria (an English man who converted to islam) did same thing about the kanem Bornu Kingdom and Hausa land in the North. Now to what you said about Arabic. - Alcohol, Algebra, Almanac, alkali (in chemistry) and so many other words I can't recall now are all Arabic words that have been anglicised. Thug is from the Hindu thuggee, guru nko? Tycoon is from the Japanese Taigun. If countries as far as India, Arabia Japan could influence English language what about ethnic cultural groups who live so closely here in Nigeria. That your culture was influenced by another culture does not make it weak, does not mean you are subservient to the influencing culture. Go and do an analysis of the English language and you'd be shocked how it has borrowed words from French, Latin, German, Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Arabic language and yet it is the number one global language. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 11:33am On Apr 15, 2018 |
I think the Discourse should be ended before it kills this Thread, coz in the long Run, many of us on this Thread gonna be EXPOSED!
Some are itching to comment, but they don't wanna expose their true Identities - the same Identity Forgiveness is often tagged.
Let's get rid of Tribal-Supremacy Debate now, before it gets rid of this wonderful Thread.
Happy Sunday to y'all! 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:36am On Apr 15, 2018 |
Mujtahida:
Me I don't understand the sweat and heat just because someone said that the Bini Kingdom influenced parts of Igboland. Is this totally impossible given the fact of proximity between Bini and Igboland? Is it not possible that cultural cross currents between both people could have taken place in the past.
Just yesterday I was reading in a magazine that the coronation of the Obi of Onitsha is not complete without the emissaries of the Attah of Igala. So if I said igala influenced parts of Igboland (and actually we geographically contiguous with some igala communities indigenous to Anambra state sef)
The Ejubejuailo (The Ata’s pectoral Mask) is said to be gotten from the Binis. We call coconut Uno'oba meaning the coconut of the Oba of Bini possibly because the coconut came to igala land from Bini. Igalas have kin relationship with Asaba people, Yoruba (we are so linguistically close to the Yorubas) Nupe, Jukun and Igbirra people. All these cultures, must have influenced each other.
Why the frothing almost wounded sensitivity to such an assertion. For me it's even a good thing that contrary to what many think our people were relating culturally, economically and linguistically before the white man came.
Now to what you said about Arabic. Alcohol, Algebra, Almanac, alkali (in chemistry) are all Arabic words that have been anglicised. Thug is from the Hindu thuggee, guru nko? Tycoon is from the Japanese Taigun
If countries as far as India, Arabia Japan could influence English language what about ethnic cultural groups who live so closely here in Nigeria.
That your culture was influenced by another culture does not make it weak, does not mean you are subservient to the influencing culture. Go and do an analysis of the English language and you'd be shocked how it has borrowed words from French, Latin, German, Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Arabic language and yet it is the number one global language. GBAM 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:41am On Apr 15, 2018 |
Oasis007: I think the Discourse should be ended before it kills this Thread, coz in the long Run, many of us on this Thread gonna be EXPOSED!
Some are itching to comment, but they don't wanna expose their true Identities - the same Identity Forgiveness is often tagged.
Let's get rid of Tribal-Supremacy Debate now, before it gets rid of this wonderful Thread.
Happy Sunday to y'all! A good discourse that should have been educative turned to tribal supremacy and funny enough Edo and Igbo,Nigeria is in serious crisis. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:45am On Apr 15, 2018 |
Kog45: A good discourse that should have been educative turned to tribal supremacy and funny enough Edo and Igbo,Nigeria is in serious crisis. And from my own end there wasn't even the faintest hint of a supremacist mind in the assertion made by Martz101. I was quite surprised to see the turn the conversation took. Something that would have been a discussion about cultural diversity, celebration and progress has passed through narrow minds and is becoming toxic. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:54am On Apr 15, 2018 |
Joebie: Torino Midfielder Joel Obi: I Rejected Italian National Team To Play For Nigeria
Published: April 14, 2018
Torino Midfielder Joel Obi: I Rejected Italian National Team To Play For NigeriaTorino attacking midfielder Joel Obi has revealed that he rejected an approach to play for Italy at international level as he wanted to represent Nigeria where he was born.
Five years after turning down the Italian Football Federation request, Obi was handed his Super Eagles debut by Samson Siasia in the national team's 2-1 win over Sierra Leone at the National Stadium in Lagos in February 2011.
''With my family we try to speak Igbo at home but I prefer speaking Italian. When I get to Nigeria I speak broken English and with my Igbo friends I prefer to speak Igbo,'' Obi told Kwese Sports.
''All my life, style was in Italian football. When I was 14 or 15 years, I had the opportunity to play for the Italian youth team but I waited because I believe I am from Nigeria and I have to play for my fatherland.
''Finally I got the call from the Super Eagles and I was very happy. I was only focused on Nigerian national team.''
Obi was recalled to the national team after a four-year absence for the pre-World Cup friendlies against Poland and Serbia last month and was named in the starting line-up for both matches.
Ifeanyi Emmanuel Forget those two matches, if Joel stays healthy? He is a must have for us at the Mundial |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 12:05pm On Apr 15, 2018 |
Mujtahida:
Me I don't understand the sweat and heat just because someone said that the Bini Kingdom influenced parts of Igboland. Is this totally impossible given the fact of proximity between Bini and Igboland? Is it not possible that cultural cross currents between both people could have taken place in the past.
Just yesterday I was reading in a magazine that the coronation of the Obi of Onitsha is not complete without the emissaries of the Attah of Igala. So if I said igala influenced parts of Igboland (and actually we geographically contiguous with some igala communities indigenous to Anambra state sef)
The Ejubejuailo (The Ata’s pectoral Mask) is said to be gotten from the Binis. We call coconut Uno'oba meaning the coconut of the Oba of Bini possibly because the coconut came to igala land from Bini. Igalas have kin relationship with Asaba people, Yoruba (we are so linguistically close to the Yorubas) Nupe, Jukun and Igbirra people. All these cultures, must have influenced each other.
Why the frothing almost wounded sensitivity to such an assertion. For me it's even a good thing that contrary to what many think our people were relating culturally, economically and linguistically before the white man came.
Now to what you said about Arabic. Alcohol, Algebra, Almanac, alkali (in chemistry) are all Arabic words that have been anglicised. Thug is from the Hindu thuggee, guru nko? Tycoon is from the Japanese Taigun
If countries as far as India, Arabia Japan could influence English language what about ethnic cultural groups who live so closely here in Nigeria.
That your culture was influenced by another culture does not make it weak, does not mean you are subservient to the influencing culture. Go and do an analysis of the English language and you'd be shocked how it has borrowed words from French, Latin, German, Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Arabic language and yet it is the number one global language. There is an ulterior motive behind that claim. A lot of internet wars has been fought because people are telling what Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie called DANGERS OF SINGLE STORY. I hate talking about tribal stuff here but there is need for me to alert everybody of the motive behind what these guys are pushing before it becomes the only truth. I never said western Igbos didnt borrow anything but we need to clarify things before your land suddenly becomes mine. Yoruba call stone okuta, Igbo call it okwute,they call water omi,we call it nmili, their amen is ase, Igbo is isee but none of these group can claim ownership of these words because its understood they are shared. Now ,compare that to my Bini friends who think everything originates from them...Its so irritating. The Igala and Idoma use the Igbo days of the week and we equally borrowed from Igala ...For instance the use of the phrase Agaba Iduu has Igala origin and we equally has alot of Igala migrants in Anambra. We have good relationship with Igala people and they speak good Omanbala dialect. But when people start making sttupid claims you handle them like sttupid people. Most of these Bini people are heavily ignorant but they dont want to learn...People are throwing a hypothetical map around without any major landmarks to back it up. The Igbo race is probably the most diverse ethnic group in Nigeria and an ancient Igbo adage gives credence to that....Igbo na asu na onu mana akwaa ukwala obulu ofu. Enugu and Ebonyi area call God Obasi and Anambra Olisa but somebody is somewhere claiming they introduced Olisa and has no proof of that....Such person is senseless. They claim Obi of Onicha dresses like Oba of Bini but no proof, you ruled over Onicha but no proof and even Onicha people have no memory of that. Show us your proof other than your fake made up territory in a map. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:10pm On Apr 15, 2018 |
Mujtahida:
And from my own end there wasn't even the faintest hint of a supremacist mind in the assertion made by Martz101. I was quite surprised to see the turn the conversation took. Something that would have been a discussion about cultural diversity, celebration and progress has passed through narrow minds and is becoming toxic. Yes Martz had a balance view but you know what those who always pointing accusing finger at .................are real culprits when it comes to tribalism and the discussion had exposed a lot,only God can save Nigeria. Mujtahida let's go back to football,Ezenwa is injured right now with the same ankle injury that ruled him out against Morocco at CHAN final and a second choice to Dauda at Enyimba,a WC bound keeper as second choice in NPFL look somehow 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:12pm On Apr 15, 2018 |
Obinna Nwobodo @Obinjanwobodo6 I scored one and assisted another in our 4-2 win of Vasas yesterday. I thank the home fans for their usual support. It went a long way.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 12:15pm On Apr 15, 2018 |
Kog45: A good discourse that should have been educative turned to tribal supremacy and funny enough Edo and Igbo,Nigeria is in serious crisis. Agbaro uzo owele mgba onaro echi....When you notice an anomaly handle it right away. There are groups online denigrating my ethnic group and I am gonna check them whenever I noticed it. Ihavent commented here in months and for me to expend my time and energy on this should tell you how serious it is...I hate little busy bees like all these Bini people online running their mouths....We have them on short leash. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 12:17pm On Apr 15, 2018 |
maidaboi: this has always been the down fall of Nigeria. tribe and culture And its gonna continue that way if people dont face their domot. People should learn how to respect themselves |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 12:18pm On Apr 15, 2018 |
OMANBALA1:
There is an ulterior motive behind that claim. A lot of internet wars has been fought because people are telling what Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie called DANGERS OF SINGLE STORY. I hate talking about tribal stuff here but there is need for me to alert everybody of the motive behind what these guys are pushing before it becomes the only truth. I never said western Igbos didnt borrow anything but we need to clarify things before your land suddenly becomes mine. Yoruba call stone okuta, Igbo call it okwute,they call water omi,we call it nmili, their amen is ase, Igbo is isee but none of these group can claim ownership of these words because its understood they are shared.
Now ,compare that to my Bini friends who think everything originates from them...Its so irritating. The Igala and Idoma use the Igbo days of the week and we equally borrowed from Igala ...For instance the use of the phrase Agaba Iduu has Igala origin and we equally has alot of Igala migrants in Anambra. We have good relationship with Igala people and they speak good Omanbala dialect. But when people start making sttupid claims you handle them like sttupid people. Most of these Bini people are heavily ignorant but they dont want to learn...People are throwing a hypothetical map around without any major landmarks to back it up.
The Igbo race is probably the most diverse ethnic group in Nigeria and an ancient Igbo adage gives credence to that....Igbo na asu na onu mana akwaa ukwala obulu ofu. Enugu and Ebonyi area call God Obasi and Anambra Olisa but somebody is somewhere claiming they introduced Olisa and has no proof of that....Such person is senseless. They claim Obi of Onicha dresses like Oba of Bini but no proof, you ruled over Onicha but no proof and even Onicha people have no memory of that. Show us your proof other than your fake made up territory in a map. you are the ignorant person here. You can’t change history and next time you insult the bini people I will take it up with you. Do you know what you are playing with? Why can’t you drop your message without insult? Be warn! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 12:18pm On Apr 15, 2018 |
Kog45: A good discourse that should have been educative turned to tribal supremacy and funny enough Edo and Igbo,Nigeria is in serious crisis. The emboldened should have been basis but it panned out to be......?! We are too emotional to some little Things at times. This Discourse should have been friendly discussed and everyone would have learned one or two things, but alas! We must turn everything to tribal Supremacy. This is one of the reasonable Threads uniting all Nigerians together, however if we can keep off tribal Ish out of this Thread, then we are calling for the End of this noble Thread. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 12:22pm On Apr 15, 2018 |
Kog45: Yes Martz had a balance view but you know what those who always pointing accusing finger at .................are real culprits when it comes to tribalism and the discussion had exposed a lot,only God can save Nigeria.
Mujtahida let's go back to football,Ezenwa is injured right now with the same ankle injury that ruled him out against Morocco at CHAN final and a second choice to Dauda at Enyimba,a WC bound keeper as second choice in NPFL look somehow sorry to derail again but Martz made a fatal error when he included some states like enugu in that assertion.nothing balanced there. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 12:24pm On Apr 15, 2018 |
Martz101:
To start with your first paragraph, erase such mindset, it wont take you anywhere, rule number one never believe someone idea is better than yours just because of who they are.
Now you are actually right by the fact that igbo dont have kings but the western Igbo do have, Obi onitsha kingship started 1550, Eze Chima was the first and we already have 18 ezes already, the white men didn't start the obi monarchy for anambra people, they only felt more comfortable dealing with people with good monarchy.
Again, you expose your ignorance once more. Igbos had kings but we didnt practice monarchy....pick a danm book and educate yourself. Nnewi had kings and by hierarchy, Nri had the oldest kingdom in Nigeria and Arochukwu had kings plus all other little towns in Anambra like Obosi king,Eze Iweka, whom Upper Iweka was named after. Your last sentence sounds retarded as ffuuck ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Are you on drugs? |